DICE And Infinity Ward Exchange Kind Words

CC: You've all seen the comments from Bad Company 2 and Modern Warfare 2 developers DICE and Infinity Ward claiming that their game is better than the other in some way.

Now though, Bad Company 2 lead game designer David Goldfarb and Infinity Ward's main man Robert Bowling have exchanged some pleasant words. Very pleasant words.

[gameseveryday]

does this really matter when a guy goes out to buy a game?

[mjolliffe]

Is it me or were those words a little cringeworthy?

On the other hand, I just think BC2 offers a more accurate experience :) But I did like Modern Warfare 2 until it got showered in glitches...

[SpaceSquirrel]

I may pick up Bad Company 2 down the road but I'm a little burn out over FPS at the moment. I only played MW2 for a few hours so far.

[jamesgtaiv]

"Lets not spend time increasing the quality of our products, lets spend time bashing each others games". Stupidity over productivity = WIN

[madpuppy]

Auto-aim is pathetic, If you need it, you shouldn't be playing.

[movements]

Just what the industry needs.

[Dave1351]

I feel sorry for people in europe. ill be playing it Tuesday and they have to wait 3 more days for it.

[MiloGarret]

We don't want your pity!

We just want to hate you in peace...

[Logiistics]

Surprising since BFB2 SP has digs at MW2

[evrfighter]

digs at mw2?

surely you jest as 75% of MW2's singleplayer ripped off the best action movies in the past 20 years -_-

[Mista T]

No! I want them to use the language of death!!! enemies till the end of time!!!

[Overmars]

Ha ha. Yeah. It's no fun if they're not spitting fire at each other. j/k

It's actually nice to see them exchanging pleasantries every once in a while. Takes a little bit of the tension off their shoulders, i guess.

[BrianC6234]

Since neither of them works for Microsoft there's no reason to bash. It seems like the biggest bashers are the Microsoft people. I don't get that. When someone bashes another developer's game it tells me they know their game isn't very good.

[Agent Smith]

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - "You're full of campers and glitches."

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - "I know....."

[jamesgtaiv]

-Its a legitimate strategy. Just not for the crappy little maps MW2 has.

[thetruthinator]

It is also legitimately infuriating, and legitimately not fun.

Legitimately a reason for me to play a different game.

[jadenkorri]

"Ur a bunch of camping noobs", oh I'm sorry for playing the game realistically holding a building down and keeping you out, im so sorry... lets looks at your strategy, running around knifing, sorry noone in the world can run that long, lung through a hail of bullets and stab me, let alone run through a claymore and live. Dual shotguns, I dunno anyone who would/could hold 2 shotguns in both hands and be able to fire accurately without injuring themselves and continue going. One many army plus noobtube...okay you know where im going on this one.

[glennc]

camping in BC2 just adds to the gameplay. until there was destruction, campers were annoying but now they add to the whole scene. there is no longer anywhere to camp permantently as once you are spotted you are dead if you don't get your ass out of there.

there are times to camp (one base left) and there are times to run. camping is a legit strategy when you follow the movement of the battle. if it is obvious which base is targeted next then get your ass there now and defend it. if you camp in one spot on most maps for the whole map you get a low score anyway so why should that bother the players who get the higher scores from running?

[Campy da Camper]

When you play with friends. I am the sniper/camper and watch over my runner and gunners. I don't play that deathmatch crap because war is not about just showing up and killing people whilst running in a circle.

I prefer the challenge modes. CTF, etc. So, yes, I do camp. I find a great spot, get a great rifle and headshot all the dumbass running around with knifes and dual wields. Don't want to keep dying? Then GO A DIFFERENT WAY. Nothing makes me laugh harder than killing the same dumazz over and over because he just keeps coming down the same path....

[PhilipLarkin]

The best ship...

Is FRIENDSHIP.

[Rucury]

Here's hoping we see Modern Company 2: Bad Warfare!!

*sigh*

[Absolut_Turkey]

Too funny man.

OT: Of course they're exchanging "pleasantries". This whole "BFBC2 vs. MW2" is just a clever marketing ploy used by DICE to drum up awareness, and it's a smart move IMO.

[happy_gilmore]

mag is infinitely better than these two piece of..

bcbf2's graphics is last gen. and everyhting looks ugly up close in mw2. gameplay-wise, it's noob-friendly, no skillz required BS. at least, bcbf2 does looks to be glitch and bug-free.

casual and noob bots would defend both to the teeth, though.

[mcnablejr]

=D

[RagTagBnd445]

The graphics in the PC version of bad company 2 are some of the best i have seen lately, can't speak for the console versions though.

[urdead18]

You guys have gotta be joking me. I'm looking forwad to bfbc2 more than I ever looked forward to mw2 but mw2 is a great game too. I love mw2 but I still own in bfbc2, was in first place almost every game I played I the demo and got 34,000 points in one game.

I've got 26 hours on the demo for bfbc2 but cmon, mw2 is still sick.

[ShottySnipa417]

MW2 is probably the worst FPS I have ever played since Haze...

At first, I was hyped up for it, since I loved COD4, but after playing it for a few hurs, it dawned to me how noob-friendl and how BS it was. Returned it the next day for full refund.

BC2 will change that. Loved the demo with almost a million points under my belt for the entire duration of the demo itself. The experience was much greater in every aspect than MW2 will ever hope to achieve.

[vickers500]

"but after playing it for a few hurs, it dawned to me how noob-friendl and how BS it was"

You went in playing a CALL OF DUTY game thinking it wouldn't be noob friendly?

You're an idiot.

[ShottySnipa417]

I was talking about in comparison to COD4; forgot to mention that in my post.

In COD4, the game was MUCH more balanced than MW2, with only 3 killstreaks in the entire game just as a minimal added bonus to gameplay. Each one was balanced. in MW2, there's 11 of them! This had come to the point where killstreaks are the main focus of the layer, camping around a corner and gaining kills non-stop. The Tacticle Nuke will end the game regardless of whose winning in a game of Domination, for example, when the person who got the nuke in the first place was on the losing team and all the efforts for the winning team meant nothing when the nuke goes off.

The maps also were much better (Crash was one of my all-time favorites). They weren't as confined and camper-friendly than Mw2, which makes up 90% of the total maps.

The perks, although some were annoying (Juggernaut), were also balanced compared to MW2 (combining Steady Aim w/ Iron Lungs and the ability to have a grenade launcher AND a rocket launcher in MW2 is just plain retarded and unfair [what I mean by this is, in COD4, the RPG was a Tier 1 perk, which was disabled when you equipped a grenade launcher or a foregrip]).

Weapons, too, were balanced as well. The G3 and the G36c were amazing weapons and I miss them a whole lot. Although the M16 was no doubtly overpowered, sometimes killing people in one burst with Stopping Power, they triplified this by not only adding the M16 in MW2, they added the Famas and M93 Raffica Pistol with nearly the same power and in a 3-shot burst. It's stupid.

So no, I didn't think MW2 would be this noob-friendly. I thought that, as a developer to make much bigger success (which they did commercially--duh!) than the first game, they would fix the problems COD4 had, refining the graphics (which are nearly the same as COD4) and making the campaign longer and more memorable (in fact, it was WORSE and SHORTER). I was wrong.

[Ausknight]

Why wouldn't they exchange pleasantries?

Infinity already made a killing from the gamer market on MW2 from the sucker fanbase. They know now the game is a buggy piece of crap but couldn't care less, they're rich.

BC2 come along to pick up the market with a much better game, but they won't have the instant success cash in of COD4 as a precursor.

In the end though, Modern Warfare is dead and Battlefield will be the new standard. Infinity have already made their mega millions so it's smiles all round.

4 days to go!

[GSpartan777]

Good to know there are retards like you still around who spend time their moms basement pulling sh1t out of your @ss. MW1 next to WoW is the most played PC game and MW2 continues to be the no.1 played game on steam over CS, L4D and other games. The BC2 beta didn't put a dent in those numbers.

XBL activity still shows MW2 and MW in top5 most played games on XBL. Please stay in your cave till you are ready face the real world.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

same dude same gun same gameplay . Want the best FPS buy killzone 2 . crazy graphics crazy gameplay ....multiple different gameplay in one match , come on how sick is that...

KILLZOWNED 3 GG

[RagTagBnd445]

If you put it that way, every game in the same genre has the same gameplay. If you actually look closely at the games you can see the gigantic difference.

[bjornbear]

=)

[HOSe]

ausknight, LOL FUNNIEST THING EVER SAID.

bfbc2 will be lucky to have a quarter of the sales mw2 has. there are 3.5 million users on t he ps3 alone, get a grip on reality. no matter how much you think this game is better than mw2, it will be nowhere near as successful. and the people that think mw2 is a glitchfest, stfu. bc2 will have glitches too WHATT NO WAYYYY YES WAYY OMFG NO WAYY. stupid.

[glennc]

you just agreed with him. "BC2 come along to pick up the market with a much better game, but they won't have the instant success cash in of COD4 as a precursor."

when we gamers talk better game we mean playing the game not how many it sells. when non-gamers in the industry talk they mean sales. that's like saying avatar is the best movie ever made.

you only talk sales when you know the game is not as good. they are aimed at different markets. one is for casual gamers and the other is for enthusiasts. that doesn't mean you won't get just the one type of gamer in each game but the majority. casual gamers won't even know Bad company 2 is (coming) out.

[madpuppy]

Just because a game is successful in sales doesn't mean it is an overall better game.

[LIVE_FR0M_NY]

he is completly right... look at music. the stuff that sells is pure sh!t.

lets be honest MW2 is just MW1, but worse. MW1 was the pinnacle of the COD franchise, it has been all downhill since then. Acivision is whoring out the franchise to multiple dev's to get all you suckers to buy the same $60 map pack over, and over, and over. When IW creates a new engine and actually brings something to the table besides the same bullsh!t i will be interested. untill then...

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Just watched "The Rock" recently and I noticed alot of scenes that Infintity Ward lifted straight out of the movie!

[AuburnTiger]

I recently watched some episode of Star Trek when the Enterprise was hit with a laser beam and damaged their shields, however after short period the shields went back to full power. This is where Halo got it's regenerating shield idea.

Do you see where I'm going with this???

[evrfighter]

because green flares at the last second to stop an airstrike is just soooooooo common right?

even the shower room scene was a direct ripoff of the rock.

[rezzah]

Infinity for its amazing COD series (except #3 and 5), and Dice for bringing somthing new to the table (blowing up buildings and trees in a FPS). Though if I had to choose one Id go towards BF because of the team work online and the better graphics, I know the beta/demo wasnt the final version. online for MW2 wasnt the best since it was more about inviduality than team work (which show true skills because its harder to work with others than just by yourself). The story in MW2 was awesome, I beat it out multiple times not once. NOt sure of BF2 obviously because it hasnt been released but from trailers I see I expect graet things too =D

[ShottySnipa417]

I'm sorry, but I hate it when people call Bad Company 2 "BF2". BF2 (Battlefield 2) is a completely different and older game only on the PC (not counting Modern Combat, which wasn't as good).

[rezzah]

lmao sorry about that, Im sure you can see why its easy to mix the name up.

[glennc]

he was having a dig at him when he mention squad rush as that is the closest to MW that BC gets. no vehicles in squad rush

[MiloGarret]

1 vehicle in squad rush.

[souljah]

I enjoyed every minute of Battlefield Bad Company 2.The xplosionz, the sounds, phackin sweet.And comparing Modern Warfare 2 with Battlefield Bad Company 2 it`s just like comparing GRID with Gran Turismo. GRID being COD and Gran Turismo being Battlefield.

[ShottySnipa417]

MW2 and BC2 is like comparing sour, rotten milk to a chocolate chip cookie. Which would you have? Obviously the cookie.

[Brionkendo]

All those little fruitcake 12yr ols who like to run around real fast with 1337's can stay over there on mw2... as for me i'm going to enjoy the best fps of all time.. (in my opinion..) it is everything i've wanted in an fps... so excited.

[LIVE_FR0M_NY]

Thank you! my point exactly... When i watch war movies and things like Band of brothers (can't wait for The Pacific!)THAT is what i am looking for in my "Warfare" game. No game in MW2 resembles war AT ALL. When it comes down to it, BC2 is the closest to simulating real wartime environments online. Oh, your attacking? you only get 75 spawns for your team, that pretty much kills the whole "run and gun" bullshit.

Fact remains... Most MW2 players are not good at other FPS' games because well.. MW2 is too easy, and they dont realize when they are playing a game that actually requires you AIM your gun (Auto aim... really?) they are not successful. Then they say the game sucks... well you know what YOU suck. period. get your game up newbz

[GamerPS360]

ARMA 2 if you are looking for best military sim game.
BC2 is almost arcady but still much better than MW2 for my taste.