Bad Company 2 - No Self Hosted Dedicated Servers

ApertureGames.com reports that the latest Battlefield Battlefieldgame will not feature what many PC gamers fell are standard elements such as modding and dedicated servers "Electronic Arts today announced that the PC version of Battlefield Bad Company 2 will not have any modding tools released"

[Wayward]

Such a shame that studios seem not want to harbor the power of modding like they used to.. luckly Value still do eh!

[Government Cheese]

There will be dedicated servers. What do you think the PS3 beta was running on? Its just that the Public Server Files (PC version) won't be distributed.

And also, the lack of mod support was announced over half a year ago. http://planetbattlefield.ga...
"No mod support since there are no tools for the Frostbite engine"

[gamer1269]

Yep, title is totally misleading. Mentions absolutely nothing about a lack of dedicated servers. Me thinks the OP merely stated that for the hits(and it's working, unfortunately).

[darkmurder]

same as bf2, lame title seeking hits

[DDclarke]

How is it the same as BF2? I can download the dedicated server software right now for BF2, I can't however for BFBC. BF2 has custom maps, BFBC won't... ( http://www.fileshack.com/fi...

[Bnet343]

So if there will be no mods, what will make the PC version superior to the console versions? Controls?

[darkmurder]

I meant in regards to renting servers, but having said that I'm not sure what EA's strategy with this game is. With Battlefield 3 rumoured to be coming out at the end of this year I feel they're going to split the community in half.

EDIT**
@Kigmal:
1) Superior aiming
2) Superior graphics
3) More players in the games
4) Community that will actually continue supporting the game (ie playing it 4 years down the track)

[Greywulf]

Framerate
Textures
Resolution

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Mainly direct x features consoles cant run though.

[kikicub]

I am replying "from memory"...I believe this is just for the pc beta and not for the final retail version. Apparently yes, there are no mod tools but there will be dedicated servers.

Either way, pc quality aside, I believe the main argument FOR pc is mod tools and dedicated servers. Mod tools could be released later, hopefully, and dedicated servers are a must for many. DICE has already stated that dedicated servers will be available for BFBC2, even though you will have to rent the server -- you still have complete control over it.

Note to DICE: mod tools are, IMO, more important than dedicated servers. Custom maps make the difference, they make longevity a reality. Even if the tools come out after the game is released, at least say so.

Also, I played and *truly* enjoyed the PS3 beta. As much as I enjoy crisp graphics, gameplay and functionality trump them. I already pre-ordered the PS3 version...once mod tools for pc are in place, I will buy the pc version; otherwise, I'll just enjoy the game on the PS3 only.

[evrfighter]

I don't even remember the last time I hosted a dedicated server

I've always rented my servers and if it's anything like bf2 there won't be a shortage of who to rent from so prices will always be low.

The title should really be changed. This is very very very misleading

[Theonik]

1. More players
2. Clan system
3. DX11
4. Better controls (and the ability to go prone)
5. A more dedicated community
6. Lower price (and if compared to the 360 cheaper online)
Edit: @kikicub
I think they did it cause the didn't want to release the frostbite modtools, at any rate dedicated servers are just as important as modtools as they improve the actual gameplay experience while modtools add more variety.

[mrv321]

I will wait for more confirmation, but this doesn't sound good at all.

I am dissapointed slightly with DICE(and EA), I really wanted SOMEONE, ANYONE to stand up to InfinityWard and say

'Hey look, dedicated servers and mod tools and console commands... oh and BTW IW we outsold you :p'

Now that's an article I'd approve.

I have corrected it, and I FULLY AGREE It may not have been DICE's choice and I can't really be angry at DICE they had an original IP of Mirrors Edge and they are helping with MoH getting back on form after the mediocore airbourne.

[Wayward]

I doubt it's Dice that decided this. The stupid thing is as you point out - they could of got one over on IW, enough to make some of the people angry with IW buy the game..

[DDclarke]

It might just be they could not be bothered with the extra effort that is required with releasing server software etc - I doubt they care much about the PC market much any more.

[Sm0k3y_Bac0n]

Like the guy who posted 3.0, i also thought they said they were keeping deicated servers. Doesnt bother me whether they do because im on consoles, but im quite sure theyre not going to remove mod tools etc.

[inSaneELF]

What? EA confirmed BFBC2 will have dedicated servers. They STRESSED it when MW2 released. Where's the source for this article?

[Wayward]

Sorry missed out the link to the BFBC blog, but added. It's stright from the horses mouth!

[M337ING]

There are Dedicated Servers, they just can't be hosted by private users and have to be bought through "official" hosts.

[Wayward]

Not really dedicated servers as I see it then, more.. allowing people to pay for the servers so EA saves money, while not letting them do anything with them (mods etc)

[nutcrackr]

BF2, BF2142 have all had private dedicated servers. They are still dedicated and have all the advantages that go along with that.

[Taarec10ToTheEnd]

PC gaming is taking a turn for the worse. Looks like we be seeing a lot more decisions like this in other games.

[Wayward]

To be fair the studios which make PC games not console ports to PC seem to still be doing it the old (and IMO the better) way. Hopfully studios like Value and Stardock will continue!

[tdrules]

stop pretending you know what the hel lyou are even talking about.
if you even knew about gaming further than a joypad, youd realise all BF games on PC have been this way, privately hosted dedicated servers.
no your facts and GTFO

[Taarec10ToTheEnd]

Keyword: IF

Get a Life

[Letros]

failed troll attempt, read the article

[Trizelda]

They will not release the dedicated server SOFTWARE ,but at least they will let you config the dedicated servers you (now have to) rent out.

QUOTE:

Mod Tools: There will not be mod tools for BFBC2. However a majority of the the games logic is controlled by the server and there will be Serverside control options for the dedicated servers.

[ZedoMann]

So, why do people hate PC gaming?
They're pretty much setting themselves up to be pirated...A LOT!

[DDclarke]

The chicken and the egg really. The game studios feel piracy is stopping them making an effort, and the pirates feel they won't pay unless the studios make the effort..

[tdrules]

yeah it must hurt having a platform with more features kicking your console arse huh.

[The Lazy One]

They took out the server software to prevent simple pirating. Now all copies playing online can be verified by EA's servers.

Reading comprehension fail.

[dragon82]

I read the info on the BFBC blog and it does not say anything about not having dedicated servers. It sounds like the servers will still be there just not the rest.

[DDclarke]

It's not got dedicated servers that can be downloaded and run, which for some is very important. For example some setups have a LAN build running a dedicated server, and much more complex edits can't be done without having the software. :(

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Wasn't it DICE that made a fuss about MW2 not using servers and now they turn around and do the same?

[bjornbear]

Edit - [IMPORTANT] No Self Hosted Dedicated Servers rather than the previous N4G title no dedicated servers

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

How is he playing MAG on his pc?
Check battlefield blog for picture.

[M0t0rBreath]

Uhhh I hate when Gaming Site's give false information. Read this blog

http://blogs.battlefield.ea...

It doesn't say no Dedicated Servers. It says no PUBLIC SERVER FILES. Totally different. Server files are for ppl who have their own servers at home and what not. This has nothing to do with dedicated servers.

Please get it right. The game will have Dedicated server on all platforms. On PC, you can rent and run your own server from a Server Provider.

[nutcrackr]

The article header is misleading. There will be dedicated servers but they won't be available for free to anybody.

[squidyj]

The 'article' here mangles the understanding of what's going on. So from the actual blog this is what's happening.

EA will own a lot of dedicated servers and will not be distributing the software required to allow people to set up dedicated servers on their own. The game will not support mods but the servers will allow for a variety of config options. Presumably this means people can buy or rent servers from EA that would still be operated by EA but would presumably afford people with admin on the server, allowing them to set the rules and whatnot.

So mods are out, but a banlist is not a mod. Neither is a custom rotation for maps, (although custom maps are). Configurations like Friendly Fire and high ping kick rules are not mods either. It remains to be seen what the exact level of control a renter/operator of a dedicated EA server will have.

[FantasyStar]

Valve FTW.

[Anti-Fanboyer]

They don't want to give out the server software to pirates who host private servers. You can still rent the servers officially the same way you can with the other Battlefield games.

In other words Project Reality 2, is not a go.

[FantasyStar]

I don't know why they're so obsessed with stopping pirates. The simplest solution is to just make good games with good features. People will buy your product to support you and the sales will prove that.

[DDclarke]

Also if they are going to give the dedicated software to certain companies to rent it out etc, it will be leaked anyhow. I really doubt this will stop piracy much.

[TheBand1t]

So much for Forgotten Hope 3, Point of Existence 3, and many other Battlefield mods.

[theunknown]

There always 3...you know, the main sequels.

[tdrules]

this article is a load of rubbish and is total libel.
oh no i have to get a professional with 24 hour support to look after top notch servers that I only need to pay per month for instead of the 5k they cost to buy themselves

[FantasyStar]

EA just found their way back on my Sh!tlist. But I saw this coming miles away. The person who sent their $60 to Dice must be sh!tting himself right now *figuratively*. Pirates are just scapegoats to mask EA's real agenda of oppressing the mod community to sell their own DLC.

[tdrules]

if you cared about DICE so much you would know there has always been privately hosted dedi servers in all PC BF games.
go troll somewhere else you sensationalist hound

[ATi_Elite]

Some of these developers should start sending checks to some of these modders becuase the MOD community is making some games worth buying just to play the mod.

[gamejediben]

HOLY MISLEADING TITLE BATMAN!!!

[bjornbear]

devs really are ditching the PC =S not good! =(

[tehk1w1]

What a POS web site posting fake stuff without bothering to do any research.

Aperturegames.com? Never going to your site for news again.

[ATi_Elite]

This article is misleading to get people to read it and view the ads on this page. I think advertisers should pay developers to make better games.

EA is trying to reduce piracy of their products, because you can pirate the game and play online on a private server. I'm OK with that. I hope EA makes Pirate proof games. Just make good games first.

Piracy to me started when developers started releasing crapware with no demo and full of bugs. If you ever bought a game and couldn't play it till a patch was released then you know what I mean.

Developers should always release a demo, helps with feedback on game crashing on different systems so patches can be in place before I pay my $40.00. $60.00 that game better fill up 3 PC dvd and have a 50 hour single player campaign.

If it's quality people will buy it. Not every pirated copy equals a Dollar lost because maybe your game sucked and the person would not have bought it anyway.

People pirate movies FAR FAR more than video games but Hollywood still fills the theaters every weekend. (insert AVATAR here CGI so good I saw it twice)

Make a better product, correction make a better product dedicated to the power of the PC.

[DiffusionE]

My thoughts exactly....

[FantasyStar]

Make good games and the sales will reflect that.

[lucifon]

Sorry but Bad Company is totally a console-based franchise anyway. I just really couldn't see myself playing this on PC, it doesn't suit. Bring on Battlefield 3 to satisfy that itch, but until then I'll be picking this up on 360 :)

[theunknown]

So your telling me the majority of BF fans who cried fowl for their lack of their version of a spin-off are hypocrites?

[Pandamobile]

Just becuase BFBC2 isn't a cannon BF game, doesn't mean it can't be fun.

[Pandamobile]

This isn't a big deal. Why would you want people hosting BFBC2 servers off their home PC's anyway :\