Rumor Killers: Killzone 3 in 2010. Tales of Vesperia Sequel, Xbox Live Price Hike

Jennifer Allen of TheGameReviews speculates on whether we'll be playing Killzone 3 in 2010, a possible sequel to Tales of Vesperia, and Xbox Live's rumored price hike.

[GWAVE]

And fanboys will find more meaningless reasons to hate on this Killzone game, too.

PS3 is on a roll. God of War 3, Heavy Rain, MAG, the next Insomniac game, and Gran Turismo 5 all coming next year....and possibly Killzone 3? Holy crap.

[SlamVanderhuge]

So because I think that Killzone 2 was completely uninspired and unbearably generic, that makes me a fanboy?

It also doesn't help your case when you follow such a line with the praising of one particular platform over the others. Just sayin'.

[Haly]

I was pretty unimpressed by Killzone 2 as well, although will check out KZ3.

Can't wait for God of War 3 and Heavy Rain though!

[Greywulf]

Halo3/Gears1&2/Modern Warfare

Sure you may say you don't like shooters.. but then you wouldn't have such exacting comments to say about KZ2.

Thats the reason 99% of the people here are fanboys. Sure I can agree with your blanket assertion with all games this gen, but not just Killzone2 alone. Its rare for a FPS to have inspired unique gameplay thats never been seen before, and there haven't been any examples of it this generation outside of Mirror's Edge.Yet unlike the other games that get a welcoming pass with uninspired gameplay, and broken features, the buck stops on the PS3 game, then its compared to worldly innovation. And its struck down for it.

So simple enough, can you apply your same criticisms to the rest of the games I've mentioned? Or is it just Kz2, and if so, why bring it up if its the status-quo?

I'd say if you cant find it in your ego to also include the other titles in your description of KZ2, you have your answer. Are you a fanboy?

Again, its a valid point. But its kind of the problem of the modern day FPS. Not exclusive to the Killzone franchise.

As far as the story goes, Killzone3 got its first round of funding already. So its in the works. 2010/2011? Who knows. Lets just remember Uncharted took 18 months to become the most advanced/best playing/best looking console exclusive game known to man between the 360/PS3. And GG had a kinda-head start in that department.

[Noob]

And again, before it was released a lot of people were expecting the game to flop because of the metacritic score of the first one. Where are those people now?

[evrfighter]

maybe they'll get rid of those horrible controls and auto-assist when not iron sighting.

If they had responsive controls and no auto assist. I might have told you ps3 fanboys that you had an fps game I wouldn't have minded having on the pc. As it stands.

It's a piece of junk.

[skwidd]

.. astounding! My game of the year and I'm not some newcomer to games. Owned half the systems out there and been playing since Atari and my PS3 got it's full value when I played KZ2. Now seriously, for those who say they're unimpressed, seriously I'd like to know if you've played past the demo. Did you go beyond Stage 5? Did you play Multiplayer? Because otherwise I don't understand how people cannot be impressed unless shooters and this kind of game isn't their kinda thing. In this case.. don't bother commenting!

[Godmars290]

It does if you can't even accept the possibility that your statement applies to Halo as well.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

idk, because it makes the game fun when AI is unpredictable?

isnt that what Halo Fanboys praise about Halo all the time?

when killzone 2 outdid Halo 3 in terms of AI, people like you tried to play it off.

i love the Double Standard, it shows who people really are in disguise.

i like when people say Generic. you want to see what a Generic game looks like? wait for about a month from now.

[Maddens Raiders]

like the only system standing when this console war is finally over.

Based on the number of 1st party IP's that Sony has to bank on-->>already (at such an early stage of the life-cycle) and the inherent benefits of its architecture, is how I draw this conclusion. Often overlooked is the absolute brilliance Sony has, benefiting from the trials learned with the mighty PS2, even in lean times.

[Troll_Police]

Everyone who says Killzone 2 was generic and uninspired are the same guys who bought Halo ODST and have MW2 on pre order. Talk about double standards.

[ABizzel1]

I thought KZ2 had one of the best single player experiences this year. I loved how the game felt like the ISA and the Helgahst felt like they actually hated one another. I thought the multiplayer was good, not great by good enough, so overall I think KZ2 was a really good game, and it's being unfairly bashed.

[Tavaras]

Killzone's graphics were great. I was really impressed by them. I just thought that the "feel" of the game was slightly off. They just didn't hit that "sweetspot" that I feel that the best shooters out there have. But Killzone was fun, and I will check out KZ3...

[locos85]

I would take MAG off of your list. I'm in the Beta and think that the game is horrible

[bruddahmanmatt]

Regarding KZ2, I thought the story was very mediocre. It had the potential to be epic but IMO the only true "oh s**t" moment came

*SPOILERS*

at the end after Rico kills Visari and Sev looks up to see the makings of Killzone 3 flying overhead. What's odd is that the backstory behind the Killzone saga which you can find over at Playstation.com or Killzone.com is ridonkulously detailed and amazing and I so wish that they had incorporated some of it into the game. Don't get me wrong, the single player experience was very fun and fairly varied with the EXO suit segment and fairly intense boss battles considering their smaller scale compared with say Resistance 2. They weren't as huge but they were much more difficult and required the player use cover rather than run and gun. That being said while the gameplay was top notch the story was not on par with everything else. Did anyone really feel anything when

*SPOILERS*

Garza or Evelyn were killed? Their deaths just lacked the emotional punch you're supposed to feel when a character is killed off. Not to mention the voice work was crap and very uninspiring.

Putting the single player aside though, once the controls were patched and the horrendous analog stick dead zones were removed, Killzone 2's mutliplayer became absolutely fantastic and is by far my favorite FPS multiplayer experience on the PS3. I get really annoyed when 360 fanboy websites refer to KZ2 as a "potential Halo killer" because the simple fact of the matter is that KZ2 plays nothing like Halo. If anything, Resistance is closer to halo in that you need to pump dozens of rounds into your enemies and circle them before they go down. KZ2's multiplayer is very tactical, requires teamwork and the pacing is much more slow and methodical and for those reasons I love it. There really is nothing else out there like it AFAIK.

[reintype]

1. Killzone 3- It's in development but IMO it won't release till 2011
with MAG and some say RESISTANCE 3 and STARHAWK plus QUANTUM THEORY coming 2010, that's too much Exclusive Shooters for the PS3 for 1 year, not only will they be eating at each other's sales but online play time as well, so I think Killzone will be held in reserve.

2. It will depend on how the PS3 version will do in the west.

3. Who knows? But one thing is for sure MS loves money.

[HDgamer]

Just because you like COD4 noob style controls doesn't make this game horrible especially if I finished it on Veteran and Elite without any problems. Try again fanboy

[silvacrest]

these stupid noobs who need CoD playstyle mechanics just to play this awesome FPS should adapt or GTFO

and to the people calling it generic, tell me, what did CoD MW or Gears do that was so.....innovative? yes, thats right nothing, but they are fun so they get a free pass while killzone gets criticized for anything fanboys can find

[evrfighter]

LOL. Actually I prefer cs/battlefield controls. No recoil gets old fast.

ZOMG you were able to play through that snorefest once. I couldn't bring myself to finish it and why are you goin on like it takes skill to play? I've only played the game twice online in fact I've only ever played an online console game twice and I'm already fraggin the top spot. Very sad considering I have no clue what the maps are called, I don't know where to go in these maps, I'm only rank 2 or 3, I don't even know how to tell what my kill/death ratio is with those stupid symbols.

It really doesn't help your cause when the so called game for the hardcore has aim-assist. Something that's considering cheating/aimbot on the platform I play on.

[HDgamer]

Most likely you couldn't play because you rented the game and well you're not on the top spot. You're not at number one, you didn't beat the game, you never experienced the amazing enemy AI along with Radec's fierce waves of enemies or the beautiful environments the game has to offer. This game is gold and not generic. It's no wonder the servers are always full every day. This game doesn't have aim assist like cod4, or arcade style controls. Hate on a game you can't possibly have any actual experience playing or completing because it's too much of a challenge for you.

[evrfighter]

why would I care about AI in an fps game? Let me ask you something and I'm being serious.

Do you really get excited killing bots? Is it fun for you?

And yes I own it unfortunately. If you need a screenshot I can provide it. I took a pic yesterday (2nd time playing online) in hopes that someone could tell me what my k/d ratio was. Give me a few minutes maybe you can help me out.

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[Pumbli]

Bot. evrfighter. online.

... Conecting to MS master server...

Mission - Bash Killzone 2 on N4G to enrage PS3 fans.

All hail to MS and the all knowing Bill Gates.

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[HDgamer]

Playing the single player is a good experience. The AI is just very good especially at changing it's tactics. Online well, thats good too but the interactive environments such as when the nuclear bomb is launched just adds to the impeccable experience. Killzone 2 offers a lot that other console shooters just aren't doing.

Graphics, Gameplay, Entertainment and Online. Lots and lots of replayability. I'm sorry you couldn't even play online or the single player. Rather play you in the game online for 2 hours. But then again you're not willing to do that.

[shadow2797]

@everfighter

Kills: 43 Deaths: 23

I can't believe that you don't enjoy single player experiences though. When did you start playing videogames?

[Ravage27]

KZ2 has added something new for both single player and multiplayer modes, and if you refuse to give credit for that, you are either
(1) not a FPS fan (2) a 360 fanboy

[cyberwaffles]

i agree with cod being a noob game, but playing it on veteran will piss you off. doesn't matter how much skill you have, they will flush you out with grenades like it's nothing and drop you dead as soon as a millimeter of your body is exposed around a corner to an enemy. i enjoy the single player a lot, but some segments are total bull**** like when you're in the television station and there are nothing but choke points and cubicals all over the place tailored for the AI to spam grenades.

[IcarusOne]

I love when fanboys make generalizations about how fanboys make generalizations. Killzone 2 was fun. Why does it need to be god's gift to gaming? Why does any game need to be? Enjoy what you want and let others do the same.

[Relientk77]

So were getting Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 in 2010

really... heres a thing how bout after that lets work on the action
rpgs and rpgs Sony... enough with the shooter games

[HDgamer]

Demon souls is out, The Agency and DCU universe next year.

[silvacrest]

DC universe is confirmed for a 2010 release then?

[Relientk77]

I want Borderlands, when they fix the online/co-op

White Knight Chronicles and Final Fantasy 13

and for Sony to announce new RPGs

like Grandia 4 ... Legend of Dragoon 2... and stuff

[aaronisbla]

Don't, you should really check it out

[Anorexorcist]

But what the author of this opinion piece (I find it funny it is called rumor killers, when the entire piece itself is rooted in nothing but pure speculation of a single individual, but anyway) doesn't see is that the Killzone graphical/development base has already been established. Certain tweaks here and there can be made to the underlying engine that ran Killzone 2 in order to complete a sequel to Killzone 2.

Does the so-called Rumor Killer here think Guerilla Games is going to take all the technological capital and knowledge capital that it accumulated over the past 5 years developing Killzone 2 and just flush it down the toilet, start anew and take another 5 years of development for their next project?

Edit:

Yes I did read the article. Specifically focusing on this portion: "That Killzone 2 took five years to develop makes the suggestion that Killzone 3 will be out a mere 18 months later very questionable."

[Haly]

Did you read the full article? ;)
'Presumably Killzone 3 would be using the same game engine as its predecessor and possibly the same multiplayer structure. '

[rob6021]

from what I heard Guerilla was already pretty much done with the game in fall of 2008, they just delayed it for a more open schedule and not to eat into resistance 2 sales. So they have been working on KZ3 well before KZ2 was done, actually.

[STICKzophrenic]

Killzone 2 is the reason I bought a PS3, and it was worth it. Can't wait for Killzone 3.

Sidenote: I also enjoy Halo 3, CoD4:MW, CoD:WaW, Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, etc.

Console Duality FTW!

[gidzilla]

"Microsoft's declining profit margin"?
I'd have thought they would make loads of profit from Xbox Live

[scott182]

I love killzone 2 I played through it about 4 times, I love the visuals and immersion. I have played through gears 2 and halo 3 and killzone 2 is on another level. No fanboy here just love killzone2 and can't wait for 3.

[Aclay]

Killzone 3 in 2010 almost seems to soon to me.... and then there's a good chance Resistance 3 is coming in 2010 as well, and if it does, there's just no way both games will come out during the latter parts of 2010, b/c Sony will probably push one of them into early 2011 so that one game doesn't step on the other.

I really wouldn't mind waiting for both Resistance 3 and KZ2 until 2011 (R3 early 2011, KZ3 late 2011) because there's already M.A.G., Quantum, and The Agency as exclusive shooters in 2010. If R3 comes in Fall 2010, I just hope that this time around Insomniac returns the series to it's Original roots b/c I preferred many aspects of Resistance 1 over Resistance 2.

[dragonelite]

No more class based multiplayer in killzone 2 plz they best moments i had in killzone 2 online was the starting levels or atleast balanced and change some mechanics classes have like the spawn grenade. Make like a turret more so the people who are getting spawn raped can destroy it.

[TheBand1t]

2010 for Killzone 3 is unlikely. It'll have to compete with the two other PS3 FPS, M.A.G and Resistance 3.

[NecrumSlavery]

Killzone 2 is fantastic. Brought FPS cover, and true realistic hit point system to the AI, also it's the only shooter where the action and suspence never ends, the characters are believable, the environment was immersive, and the realistic physics were incredable. Plus the online has the best job system of any FPS. Only thing missing was Co-op and splitscreen. When KZ3 puts that in Halo Reach What?

[mr durand pierre]

I never did understand the hype behind KZ2 myself. Good graphics, but bland as all hell. As such, I have no excitement for KZ3 whatsoever.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

the hype behind it is a decent story with an intense battlefield never seen before on consoles.

[Arnon]

The story was extremely bland, and immature, much like Gears of War 2's story.

The environmental battles were nice, though.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

thats why i said decent story. it was good, but it felt pretty spotty. gameplay was awesome though.

[FwanK]

Please make Killzone 3 as a full playable Helghast Campaign

[NecrumSlavery]

That would be awesome. Or a 8 hour campaign as ISA and an a 6 hour Helghan campaign. But keep them sperate.
That would be awesome.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...the Xbox Live's rumored price hike!!! ;-D BRING IT ON!!! ;-D

'Killzone 3' will be out in 2011 i think;)

[chrisulloa]

LOL, someone who gets more excited over Microsoft news than PS3 games. Do all you fanboys care about is how bad 360 games are? You probably spend more time trolling and being a fanboy than you spend playing actual PS3 games. Well you guys do only have 1 game.

[CernaML]

There are at least 3 must have PS3 games in this month alone. Well, for me at least. But thanks for admitting that the PS3 has 1 good game. I bet that was really hard for you to do.

[D4RkNIKON]

So since it will use the same engine, it will be the same game just like Halo3 to ODST? I guess that means that all of the 360 games using the unreal3 engine are actually the same game :O

[HDgamer]

Halo 3's engine is aged.

[D4RkNIKON]

Yes, yes it is. The KZ2 engine would make a bad ass game if they added features like MW2 is doing. (BTW MW2 is using COD4 engine)

[rob6021]

They're not using the 'same engine' per say it's already been improved, they showed some of the improvement in the 'real time' advertisement they made for KZ2.

[Lavalamp]

A sequel for Tales of Vesperia would be an amazing turn of events for the series. It'd be a day one purchase for me. I love the world and all of the charming characters that those talented devs created for Vesperia and it has really grown on me.

[Saaking]

KZ3 will be EPIC. If KZ2 was that good, I can't wait to see what GG does with their second time.

[Deadman64]

omgomogmogmomg kilzzone 3 they are so milkinnging omfg! whats next KILLZONE KART????

/impersonation of Sony Fanboy with killzone inserted for halo

[shovelbum]

I'd really doubt such a quick turnaround for a AAA title sequel like KZ2. 2011 certainly but not 2010 IMO.

[MAGNUM-RAM]

This Future is Ravaged & No FPS Tops it.

Killzone Hits Fast & Hard. It's no Wonder Shooters have been Challenged.
It's separates the Men from the Boys.

[Oadif]

dont forget Incognito's game!!!!! And The agency and DC Universe and mod nation racers, and agent, and most likely resistance

[jdktech2010]

Ok, for crying out loud....there is NO CONSOLE WAR. There aren't casualties occurring, no one is staging a coup. All it is business, they want to sell their product....why some of you think it's a "War" as you put it is beyond me

Secondly, I'd rather wait on a game like KZ3 than have it rushed and be not so great (I'm looking at you Gears of War 2 and EA Sports)

Thirdly, I have no issue paying for XBOX Live at it's current value because I think it's a great value for 50 bucks but if I'm ever asked to pay 100, I will drop XBOX Live. But for now, that's not the case and I'm very happy

[bigrudowsky]

killzone is a good shooter great ai but i dont believe it outdid halo 3's ai The best thing about killzone is the particle effects i love how things blow up in that game but i hate the enemies very lame looking enemies imo.. I prefer sci fi shooters so i naturally gravitate towards gears and resistance i dont mind halo i but i always thought it was kind of bland but lots of fun with friends.I think its very difficult for shooters to innovate now a days, bungie did a great job with the halo franchise and you honestly cant blame them for keeping it the same it is made for halo fans after all.

[midi]

$100 a year for XBox Live is a helluva financial committment for a lot of people.

[orange-skittle]

@ Noob

Believe it or not, the game did flop. They expected far more than 2 million in sales for this game. ODST did half of that in 1 day. They spent 5 years and 21 million for 2 million sales? If that's not a flop, I don't know what is. The game was beautiful, but the MP was horrible. They had to patch the controls because people complained so much about them. I don't know how you continue a story when the Helghast leader was killed at the end? Just look at Uncharted 2, they are HOPING it sells 2.75 million. Such a great game and it didn't break 1 million in a week. PS3 fanboys show no support for great titles and they want to bash 360 fanboys who turn out in numbers to buy a mediocre Halo game that sells 2 million in a month.

@ Fwank

I agree. Killzone 3 should be told from the Helghast POV. To be honest, I was rooting for them because they were the ones being violated. The gov't left them for dead and returned to take what was left of their planets minerals for better living. They were fighting for justice as well as for their lives. It was almost a shame to kill them because they were wronged by the ISA. How do you leave people on a planet and they are forced to use gas masks to survive?

@ jdktech2010

What improvements do you expect from EA Sports in 10 months of development you dumb ass? It's a yearly release moron, you're not going to see many changes within that time frame, genius

[gtamike123]

Maybe we will also see Syphon Filter and Twisted metal in 2010.

[Rowsdower]

more like rumor spreaders

nothing to see here move along

[hakis86]

"Assuming there are no problems during development, which seems likely considering the Killzone 2 engine would surely be adapted for it, I can’t really see any reason why Killzone 3 won’t make an appearance in 2010. It may well be near the holiday season, so around the same time as Gears of War 3, but it’ll certainly make for an interesting console war around Christmas 2010. Get your pre-orders in now!"

Sorry, but didn't cliffy already say that there won't be a Gears 3 - at least not for the 360?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to Killzone 3!

[Raoh]

for the killzone 2 haters. its not just great graphics. its also great gameplay. the class system also works very well.

as for the graphics, its not that they look great the environment plays a roll in how you play. you don't just see a smoke gif play in front of you every minute.. shoot at steel and sparks shoot out from the steel. this is hindering the snipers. smoke lasts a long time, hard to rush in blindly. this all changes how you play. the animations and scenes are changing around you constantly adding to better gameplay.

[Raoh]

by the way how reliable have these guys been?

[stagga]

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why would I care about AI in an fps game? Let me ask you something and I'm being serious.

Do you really get excited killing bots? Is it fun for you?

And yes I own it unfortunately. If you need a screenshot I can provide it. I took a pic yesterday (2nd time playing online) in hopes that someone could tell me what my k/d ratio was. Give me a few minutes maybe you can help me out.

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Just one thing, it says "Helghast Victorious" at the top of that screen yet you seem to be on the ISA side. Strange we don't get to see the other column to see who really won ;)