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FFXIII on the PS3 to have no Install

The kind folks over at IGN went over the latest issue of Famitsu and revealed that FFXIII on the PS3 won't require an install. They also made a comment on loading times, and how the only time you will see them is when the transition from town to field occurs. The devs commented on how they did this because they wanted to create seamless environments with no loading.

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Noct5299d ago

Read the article over at IGN genius.

Yarite5299d ago

Ok time to admit I'm pretty impressed. Mainly because this game will probably have more cutscenes then MGS4 and then you also have the CGI and bigger + more environments types.

Not sure how the devs pulled this off considering MGS4 required an install after each ACT.

Also to the top poster there is a link to the IGN article in the blog post.

Foliage5299d ago

Of course it won't, the game has been dumbed down so the 360 can handle it.

Vivi5299d ago

The new trailer completely destroys all the 'downgrade' talk that was going on.

http://www.gamersyde.com/st...

Yarite5299d ago

Considering the image in the blog article is realtime then the graphics are good enough for sure.

Especially for a JRPG.

Godmars2905299d ago

But its not going to stop it. Especially when actual shots and movies for Versus start showing up.

Lifendz5299d ago

for those of us that upgraded their HDD and wouldn't mind.

StanLee5299d ago

Gamers at TGS were treated with some gameplay footage of Final Fantasy Versus XIII in a private theatre. Apparently the footage was only of gameplay in the testing stages. I think by the time Versus will be released there will be so much more that can be done with the engine.

Eamon5299d ago

This might prove that the PS3 version hasn't been downgraded or that they developed a method to do that on the 360.

Either way, I don't like multiple discs (even from the PS1 days it annoyed the crap out out of me). PS3 version is what I'm getting.

The 15299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

Until the game comes out showing otherwise like in almost every case. Anyways the PS3 version was not downgraded people were comparing old builds of the PS3 version with other older builds of the PS3 version.

Anon19745299d ago

Having a harddrive is just an extra resource for developers to utilize. Quite frankly, I'd hope that developers would be using all the resources available to them, but in this case you can understand. Having the game run off the harddrive is a major change to the way the game operates internally. The 360 being without a harddrive would have caused some major issues in how the code ran and I that's just another issue I could see developers not wanting to deal with.

It's too bad. I always wondered what guys like Bungie could do if they had a standard harddrive to work with. Or what Ghostbusters could have been if they didn't have to worry about a 360 port afterwards.

I guess thanks to the 360, we'll never know how FF could have been better if they had a available harddrive as an additional resource instead of being handicapped by Microsoft's decisions made 5 years ago.

IdleLeeSiuLung5299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

mrmmm... NO!

The 360 isn't the one that requires an installation to keep up. That my friend is the PS3!!!

That means that this is a great feat, but let's hope we don't get intermittent freezes like KZ2 loading. I would rather take an optional install instead....

presto7175299d ago

I cant help but shake off the feeling that FFXIII is disappointing, mainly because I FEEL that the cast sucks compared to the other kick ass characters we've seen on older FF's. None of these guys are cool, and the chocobo in the hair thing is just retarded. After waiting for so long, I was expecting more.

I'll still be getting this game because the gameplay and graphics are tight, and the story seems good. But the cast. The damn cast....

Eamon5299d ago

I respectively disagree because the cast and story in FF games have always been good (whith the exception of FF12)

It's actually the gameplay that I'm worried about. It's changed dramatically from the old FF games that I've grown up with and loved. I'm a huge fan of the old classic turn based command system.

FF13 looks to be too action-oriented gameplay which is the biggest difference of FF games (more than FF12's underwhelming real time turn based system).

But I can't judge yet since the game isn't out yet and I haven't played the demo.

Foliage5299d ago

You guys have not stated anything that discredits the fact that this game is downgraded from the time it was PS3-only.

This might shock you guys, but what is shown in trailers doesn't paint the full story. From what I have been shown early on in the lifecycle of this product, I can state without a shadow of a doubt that this game has been gutted to run on the 360. Since Square is aiming to make both versions similar at all costs, the PS3 version has suffered.

Don't also fall under the assumption that the Microsoft money bag arrived just prior to the announcement, this game was gutted well in advance. So what you assume was a video prior to the accouncement, was actually a video with the downgrades already in action.

I don't care if any of you believe me, but people have to stop eatting the PR jargon and thinking everything they hear from the developers is fact. They will never state the truth, the PS3 version has been downgraded, that would kill their sales and Microsoft would be mad they wasted money funding a game that is publicly stated to be inferior because of the limited 360 platform.

FamilyGuy5299d ago

No install is great, Uncharted 2 doesn't have an install but the first time I put the game in my system it was loading for a very long and unusual amount of time but the most data i can find for it on the system is 77-80mbs.

I can't wait to see all the footage once this releases in japan this year.

Noct5299d ago

My opinion on the cast.

Lightning- seems badass, I wanna see what the FF team can pull of with a serious female lead and not a sing and dance game like Yuna in X-2. (+Lightnings pic in the article of her is awesome)

Snow- one of those characters you just don't know how he will be until you play the game for yourself. I like his design tho.

Hope-typical whiney kid like you get in most FF's/JRPG's.

Sahz- Portrayed as a joke character but the devs commented on how he has a dark past so theres room for development. Actually kinda happy he is a joke character since it brings life in to the game and the joke character was what made older FF's so enjoybale and 12 not so enjoyable.(lack off)

Oreba Dia Vanille- Don't know much about her but shes meant to carry a heavy burden or something so a lot of room for development and plot twist material.

Oreba Yun Fang- Don't know much about her but she looks awesome and her name and weapon is bad***. (+ She has Bahamut)

Villains- 1 female Jihl and 1 male Yaag. Lots of room to do something awesome with that.

Hard to judge until we get the game in our hands.

The 15299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

The game was not downgraded the developers showed off PC target renders and when they showed FF13 on PS3 hardware you guys choose to blame the smoke and mirrors on the 360.
PS3 fans knew this but made up BS stories about the game being downgraded because of the PC target renders and PS3 hardware differences.
After the embarrassing marketing on the 360, PS3 fans made up more BS stories comparing old PS3 builds of the game saying the PS3 version was downgraded by telling lies about which build is newer or older.

We will see when both game hit the shelves.

Saigon5299d ago

did any one ever think they could be streaming the information to the hard drive while the cutscenes are playing...so in other words downloading information while you watch a cut scene...devs used this method in the past and I beile the first uncharted also uses the method...not too sure about the second one...

Foliage5299d ago

"The game was not downgraded the developers showed off PC target renders and when they showed FF13 on PS3 hardware you chose to blame the smoke and mirrors on the 360."

Where are these public PC target renders showing gameplay? I've never seen them. I'm strictly going by the game running on the PS3 hardware updated directly through target manager, no smoke and mirrors there kiddo, and definitely not on the PC.

I am not surprised that a person that makes as many assumptions as you, has not found it upon himself to actually learn something instead of guessing at everything.

Foliage5299d ago

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing that Uncharted 2 has abandoned that.

Yarite5299d ago

Maybe some people just dont care?

End of the day it's a game. Something made for pure enjoyment.

JRPG fans have never been graphics wh0res since JRPG's don't usually have great graphics compared to other games/genres....

As long as the graphics are good enough then thats all that matters when it comes to that issue.

The 15299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

"am not surprised that a person that makes as many assumptions as you, has not found it upon himself to actually learn something instead of guessing at everything"

"Of course it won't, the game has been dumbed down so the 360 can handle it."

The Hypocrisy. Blame the 360

Your assumption doesn't even make any sense. #1 said he doesn't believe there will be no installs for the game and you agree with him blaming the 360 when installs are a known method to get the PS3 to run games properly.

Your comment is also a weak bitter attack on the 360 that does not make sense as a response to #1s comment in two ways.

GWAVE5299d ago

I'm still leery of this game. After it went multiplatform, I lost a lot of my interest. No, not because of some fanboy rage or whatever, but because it was yet another greedy move by Square Enix this generation. They are arrogant and their games have mostly been mediocre this gen. So, for them to split development between two platforms is going to make the game suffer.

I'm not upset at Microsoft for bribing Square-Enix to make the game multiplatform. I'm upset at S-E for being greedy and lazy enough to say "yes".

OpenGL5299d ago

@ Foliage

Uncharted 2 caches data to the hard drive and constantly streams data from the Blu-ray just as Uncharted 1 did. In fact, a lot of PS3 games cache data to the hard drive. You do not need an install to take advantage of the hard drive as shown by Uncharted 1 & 2, and Killzone 2. Halo 3 is as far as I know one of the only 360 games that caches to a hard drive if one is available, and it shortens load times for levels that have been played recently.

AKNAA5299d ago

It's pretty clear now that any one who has not played uncharted 2 does NOT know the true potential of the PS3. Not only does this game surpass the majority of games out there graphically and technically, there is basically no load times! the game only needed to load once(at start up) though out the entire 12hrs. campaign. if you die, sure it'll load for a couple seconds, but if you manage to play the game without dying then you'll never see a load screen.... So this is why I believe what SE is saying.

NeoCloud5299d ago

How many of you guys are importing?

Bodyboarder_VGamer5299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

Vivi, CGI and in-game cinematics always look good...

Isaac5299d ago

Preemptive damage control, awesome strategy.

Godmars2905299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

Are going to be the exact same people who will argue the "downgrade" argument. Defend FFXIII against Versus.

lightningsax5299d ago

I'm not so sure that I doubt this one. Square did an excellent job with loading times in FFX. Not only was that a PS2 title, it was their first of four (or much more if you count the FFXI expansions) Final Fantasy titles on the system.

Don't look at FF12 for any indications as to how 13 will turn out. That was a different team - actually, three different teams in a beautiful and massive train wreck, and the Kingdom Hearts team that finished 12 is on a different project. Look at FFX-2 if anything. Sure, we could talk for days about how weird it was, but the back end of the system was really, really solid.

Tavaras5299d ago

Hmmm... let me see... who is a more reliable source, you, or the people who make the game. Should I believe you, or the major game websites that get early demos of the game on both systems so they can generate a buzz about the game? Square does not have a stake in the "console war", why would they care if the PS3 or Xbox360 version ran better? The only one who really cares is you, so you can convince the world that one piece of plastic and silicone is superior to the other... good luck with that.

Xbox Avatars Shoe5299d ago

Uncharted 2 and KZ2 look better than the new dumbed-down-for-Xbox FFXIII and they don't have an install.

Ravage275299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

people who believes SE words are dumb, and believing that going multiplat has not affected the original game in any ways is just being naive.

Exclusives(be it PS3 or 360) will always bring out the best from the hardware it's optimized for. idk about you guys, but after 6 years of dev time and a budget at least 10 times their rivals,not impressed with the graphics i'm seeing. As for the game only fitting into 3 dvds....COLOSSAL disappointment. I sure hope they haven't shorten the story and game length to achieve that, i'm guessing that they remove CGI(best part of the game) or changed to in-game cut scenes. http://www.thekoalition.com...

Anyway, those SE whores are going to charge us for the jap vo DLC, no doubts about that.

AAACE55299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

You gotta keep in mind that MGS 4 was still early on the Ps3, so they weren't too familiar with the tech. Plus, as long as SE has been working on this game, I hope they have figured it out by now...lol!

I haven't even read any of the post below yours, but I get the feeling that someone below will complain about it not having loading times because it had to be downgraded or something.... imagine that... people getting mad about a game not having to be installed... crazy I tell you!

@villers...below

Really man? If you are getting the game on Ps3, why do you even care about what the 360 version has in store? Grow up!

FACTUAL evidence5299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

I love the FF franchise, but when this game went multi-platiform i just knew from there this game wasn't going to take advantage of the ps3 in anyway, so that made me lose interest. Ok, it's not the fact that it's going to 360, it's the fact how they hyped it up being "exclusive" and taking "advantage" of the ps3. But enough of that, what I want to say is that i'm sick of 360 fanboys saying it's not dumbed down, when SE clearly had FF13 in development for over 5 years.....and now they are making a "quick" copy for the 360? tell me that's not dumbed down in any way?

Xbox Avatars Shoe5299d ago

Just look at the screenshots from a year ago and compare them to the screenshots they've released since it was announced that it's coming to 360. The new pic are lacking the detail the others had among other things.

360 fanboys are dumb. Anybody who's not a dumbass knows Uncharted 2 and KZ2 are the best looking console games but the 360 fanboys still try to compare Gears 2 and Alan Wake ROFL! Any smart person also know that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 and since FFXIII is coming to the 360 instead of being a PS3 exclusive, it's going to be dumbed down.

ssipmraw5298d ago

theres like no reason to buy the 360 version now, unless your a pathetic bot

TapiocaMilkTea5298d ago

I doubt it too, there must be a catch....
But SE have always pushed the console hardware limits with their Final Fantasies, maybe they did something creative again this time?

indyman77775298d ago

I have seen games with no load screens, on those the trick is there is 1-2 seconds of nothing. Another trick is there is a draw in of the battle field but it is not ready to fight yet. Example is xenosaga, you see some of the characters but they are not yet ready to fight for a few seconds.
I hope this game is just plan fast! I hate load times in RPG's because there are SO many fights in a RPG. More fights than in a fighting game (just kidding, I think). I will still install mine to disk because it will be faster in going from town to field, and vise versa. Also I think it will help the frame rate, that is if square took advantage of that. I will wait to see if the textures look better, and if the frame rate is better on the xbox360 version to tell you the truth, sorry. Just because 19 times out of 20 it is much better especially the AI on the xbox360. And they both will have the ability to install. Plus the disk speed is faster on the 360. But if Square puts a extra summon spell on the ps3 I will get that version (this is rare for me to care about these things but this is FF!!!). And if they have different summons spells on both machines kinda like Star wars, and some fighting games on the two different machines, it will be time for me to either buy both, or become a gamefly diligent customer!

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MetalGearRising5299d ago

Just like to point out xbox360 version will be the superior version to get.

Surfman5299d ago

are you able to not comment on ps3 news?

silverbeld5299d ago

MMMMMM I just eat some bubbles.

lol.

TheBand1t5299d ago

Having more discs doesn't make the game superior.

thebudgetgamer5299d ago

its lonely in his moms basement.

ultimolu5299d ago

When pigs fly.

Ignore him guys. This guy trolls for a reason-to get a reaction.

TheBand1t5299d ago

He's not even a good troll. Zhuk was a beastly troll.

droid and bot5299d ago

"PS3 version...

1 Blu-Ray Disc
No Install
Minimal Loading
720p Native Gameplay and 1080p Native Cutscenes (Like the demo)
Fixed 30FPS with no drops
Lead version
Better looking version

and the 360 version...

4 compressed discs
Install required if you don't want to swap discs
Longer loading times
Sub HD gameplay and 720p Cutscenes
Massive Frame drops maybe even as low as 20FPS
Port
Worser looking version and lower res/compressed textures"

taken from the guy in the other zone

PimpHandHappy5299d ago

when this guy hits ONE BUBBLE im taking him off my ignore list

get 2 work ppl

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OhNoez5299d ago

watch your bubbles dissapear

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maverick11915299d ago

its funny how you are always 1st to bash anything ps3 related and can you confirm that the 360 will be superior?

NO STFU

Dutch Boogie5299d ago

@MetalGearRising

The 360 section must be dryer than a sad prosti...

Bad times ahead for your belovered plastic.

Razzy5298d ago

I think Microshaft pays this guy for each negative PS3 comment lol.

spinbot_lv15298d ago (Edited 5298d ago )

yes i'll buy the xbox360 version because FFXIII will be on 4 dvds.more discs = better quality.dvd is faster than bluray so xbox360 version will run smoother with more frames than ps3 version. don't forget xbox360 superior hardware.my xbox360 is dated 2005 and it still works.

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villiers5299d ago

Wow so it's finally confirmed.

So the PS3 version...

1 Blu-Ray Disc
No Install
Minimal Loading
720p Native Gameplay and 1080p Native Cutscenes (Like the demo)
Fixed 30FPS with no drops
Lead version
Better looking version

and the 360 version...

4 compressed discs
Install required if you don't want to swap discs
Longer loading times
Sub HD gameplay and 720p Cutscenes
Massive Frame drops maybe even as low as 20FPS
Port
Worser looking version and lower res/compressed textures

Natsu X FairyTail5299d ago

"Massive Frame drops maybe even as low as 20FPS"

"Longer loading times"

When was this .... Confirmed....

Vivi5299d ago

Not sure where he got the 'massive frame drops from' but we do know the PS3 version is locked at 30FPS and considering the 360 version is a port then there's always a small small chance it could be worse of wear technically.

Regarding the loading times, since the 360 version is split over several discs that could make loading times longer since they don't have access to all the data like they do on one Blu-Ray.

Godmars2905299d ago

Its going to be more an issue about disc swapping, especially when backtracking from the main story, than anything else. They might be able to fix it with an option install of the overworld, but that will only be a minor solution.

Bodyboarder_VGamer5299d ago

The demo had 720p gameplay and 1080p cut-scenes? Sounds cool but where's the link? Sorry but I don't trust you...

villiers5299d ago

^^

Heres the link http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

Several other sites reported it as well. Also I have the PS3 demo so I know enough. The gampelay was 720p native but also supported 1080p upscale. The CGI was native 1080p.

Google it if you want more proof.

StanLee5299d ago

I wasn't aware you had played the XBox 360 version of the game. Thanks for your brief preview.

/Sarcasm

Eamon5299d ago

1080p CGI is sweet.
Would have been better if gameplay was also native 1080p

The 15299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

Talking BS.

7ero H3LL5299d ago

"and the 360 version...

4 compressed discs
Install required if you don't want to swap discs
Longer loading times
Sub HD gameplay and 720p Cutscenes
Massive Frame drops maybe even as low as 20FPS
Port
Worser looking version and lower res/compressed textures"

i say different, that E3 demo of 360's version showed nothing as you mentioned, including fps... and that demo was really early in development.

http://www.eurogamer.net/vi...

http://www.giantbomb.com/ne...

MGSR THE HD VERSION5299d ago

A poor ps3 to 360 port? ha, unheard of.

Not unheard of for vice versa, ahahahahahah. oh, you guys can prey and prey that 360's version is going to be crap, but it's not going to happen, 360 is far to easy to develop for.

indyman77775298d ago

villiers you are a incorrect! Even your link shows it was talking about the PS3 version!!! The article goes on to say it does not know how the disks will work on the xbox360 version! The same psxetreme (playstation site) article. So who do you think your fooling? Oh yeah the people that did not take time to read.

On top of that this was in APRIL before E3, at E3 Square Enix was at Microsoft's both SHOWING off the xbox360 version of the game that the Square executive was saying will at minimum look as good as the final PS3 version. And the 360 version was already at 60FPS, and a higher resolution! So don't even try it!

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Godmars2905299d ago

Looks at 360 fanboys and walks away...

*RUN!*

Lucreto5299d ago

I can't wait to see a RPG where the game seamlessly changes from the field to a town.

It is good there is no install it shows they really worked hard on the game. If the game was dumb down I would have expected an install.

Godmars2905299d ago

But any real interest in "innovation" isn't going to come until FFXIII versus. FFXIII main question is how is the 360 version holding back the PS3 one. How can the 360 version be called "equal" with its multiple discs and this news.

Roper3165299d ago

or maybe the dumbing down of the game and the removal of content made the install not needed?

Noct5299d ago

Considering the game will span over 4 discs and require compression on all fronts then content wise it will be fine.

Next you will argue.... "teh 4 dvd9z doesn't = 1 blu-ray"

Uncharted 2 is only 24GB's out of a possible 50GB's a Blu-Ray can offer.

If a dev decided to make a game that will use a full 50 it would take countless more years to finish. The only reason MGS4 used 36GB's was because everything in the game was completely uncompressed, even the audio.

lightningsax5299d ago

@GodMars - You're talking in too broad of a term when you say "innovation." There are new and innovative games out there with very limited technology required. If you mean graphical innovations, now we're getting somewhere. I think Rhythm Heaven was pretty innovative in the whole-game sense of the word, but I sure wouldn't put that up against Uncharted 2 in a visual rumble.

Tavaras5299d ago

Let me tell you a story... A long time ago, way back in the days of the PS1, a game called "Final Fantasy VII" was released... This was before the "Great Console War of the New Millennium", where gamers talked about games rather than the machines they were played on. It came to us on a whopping FOUR disk, but you know what, nobody cared! Because the game was GREAT, and it changed the RPG landscape, especially here in the West, Where not too many people played RPG's. Really though, it doesn't take too much effort to, GASP!, stand up, walk to your machine of choice and change the disk... in fact, walking is GOOD for you! You should give it a try one of these days...

NDoerrFans5299d ago

FFVII came on 3 discs, not 4. That was FFVIII and FFIX.

If you want to prove a point, please make sure your facts are straight! Someone might scream and cry and say you weren't actually there or something silly.

Godmars2905299d ago

How many times do people defending DVDs on the 360 have to be reminded of that?

Tavaras5299d ago

Yes, you are correct, and I stand corrected... there was only three dics for FFVII, not four. Excuse me for the mistake, lots of gaming memories inside this old gamers head, forgot they didn't get to 4 discs 'till the next 2 games in the series...

Tavaras5299d ago

My friend, I guarantee you that most RPG gamers will not care about the disc swapping. The hardcore RPGers I know don't drool over the machines or care about all the fancy graphics. They'll play Crono Trigger or any other old, classic RPG in a heartbeat. They want to level up, Dungeon crawl, and participate in an engaging, out of this world story. Only "Clone Soldiers" who is fighting this silly console war care about that... Hardcore RPG Nerds, I love 'em, I admire their passion... "Clone Soldiers" in the PS3 vs. 360 wars... not so much.

Godmars2905299d ago (Edited 5299d ago )

Sorry, but how are you not one of these "clone soldiers" when you're defending the 360 using a game that was on a cartridge as example? My argument is the same as CDs in games: its all that's there, the 360 only uses DVDs, so deal with it. Don't try to say or suggest that its equal or even better than Blu-ray.

Can you even accept that basic play mechanics aren't the same between the two formats? That where SO4 relied on disc swapping and point by point movement to backtrack and explore worlds, the PS3 version will be free roaming. There will be differences between the PS3 and 360 versions of FFXIII, and while I'm glad that 360-only owners will have a chance to play the game w/o having to shell out $300, as a PS3 owner I'm not happy that my experience with the game will likely be held back because of it.

I also say this as an old school JRPG fan who played Chrono Trigger to death - well, ebay - on cart, and still owns a copy of it on CD. Am really getting a Xenogears - which i also still own - hankering but I'm already taking a break from a Shin Megami title to play UC2 and Batman.

If you haven't played any of these titles, the non-PS3 ones anyway - while defending the 360, I say "Bite my JRPG @$$ clone soldier-boy!"

The 360 uses DVD9 - deal with it! I'll remain pissed that I'm not getting JP voice acting because of it, thank you very much!

Tavaras5298d ago

Me? A "clone soldier boy?" I don't think so, my friend. Let me tell you the difference between me and you... You and your ilk like to believe that ownership of one particular console grants you a kind of superiority to other gamers. For some odd reason, you feel the need to have your purchase justified by attacking owners of other systems, or endlessly pointing out all these "serious" flaws of the competing system. I, on the other hand, is more interested in the games that each system play. I don't pretend that each system DON'T have their own merits, each have exclusives that a gamer should play. I take no part in this "console war" silliness. I own them all... from Atari to a NeoGeo to PS3, 360, and Wii and everything in between. Why? Cause I like GAMES. Period. I don't care what format a game is on. CD,DVD,BluRay,cartridge,8 tracks, whatever... A great game is a great game...I am not "defending" the 360. I am sure all of the 360's of the world can't "hear" what you are saying, they are just plastic and silicone, man... If having Japanese voices in your game is that important to you, why don't you import a copy of the Japanese version of the game? But, for most people here in America, English will do just fine... Granted, I've played a few RPG's in my time... but I don't consider myself a "hardcore RPGer." The real RPG fans I know are stoked about a new Final Fantasy... They'll play it on Betamax if they have to... So what's YOUR problem?

Godmars2905298d ago

My "problem" is that you're talking all this crap about games, but not really saying anything about them. I mean, do you own or have you even played half of the games/systems you've brought up? I have!

My chief issue is that FFXIII on the PS3 has been effected by it being on the 360. Its the same thing as if Chrono Trigger had been ported to the Genesis, and because it couldn't couldn't handle Mode-7, Mode-7 got cut from the SNES version.

BTW: Chrono Trigger, there being a PS1 version, is totally playable on the PS3. As is a ton of "old school" titles. 360, not so much.

I've been saying the 360 uses DVD9, its going to limit how certain games are played on it - get over it! I don't know what the hell, aside from making excuses for it, you've been saying.

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Alex Donaldson: "Hindsight is a hell of a thing, however, and in the years since Final Fantasy XIII, my respect for the decisions its developers made has skyrocketed. In the two Final Fantasy titles since we see both the brilliance and the folly in alternative approaches - and in Final Fantasy VII Remake, we get a more nuanced understanding of what FF13 was trying to accomplish from many of the same development leads."

Einhander1972124d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus124d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim123d ago (Edited 123d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda123d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B122d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125122d ago (Edited 122d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic122d ago (Edited 122d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic122d ago (Edited 122d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981122d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot122d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda122d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot122d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy121d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay122d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12124d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay122d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183124d ago (Edited 124d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB123d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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