Wining Eleven 2007 PS3 Rumor

According to a Konami insider, the forthcoming PS3 version of Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007, will have a massive quality gap over the Xbox 360 version.

It will also be running at 60 FPS, have online play and take up over 18GB, no doubt making full use of the enhanced capacity of Blu-ray.

The news came from a forum post on the Japanese game site Ruliweb by an apparent Konami employee who is a team member working on the soccer game. Still this is very much a rumor at this moment.

[kingboy]

It`s finally back on playstation after last year`s mess on the 360..This time around the 360 gets a ported version and for Blu ray it`s starting to show it`s advantages no doubt about that

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blindfromthesun
cry as much as u want x-looser,nothing changes fanboy!

[dragunrising]

My cousin's, brother's friend that has a friend that works for Konami (lead designer) said that the PS3 version would be like 3 times better!!! OMG I need to buy a PS3 right away! Besides being a true graphics wh0re and fanboy n00b, your making quite a few assumptions. Tell me when Sony fanboys can fly...dumba$$. Why do you need to prove to yourself that you made the right decision investing in $600 (or dream of investing). How about you compare the most recent Pro Evo for the PS2 vs any next gen system for the next 2-3 years. Last gen is guaranteed to have more content. I wouldn't pick on you if you weren't the first person to make such a dumb comment...and a fanboy no less.

[LoveHateTragedy]

Wait and see? Konami isn't afraid to expose differences in platform capabilities, so it would make sense. 10GB for rendered models alone sounds plausible though for the PS3 version (includes everything from players to stadiums). If this turns out to be true then there are going to be a lot of gameplay/feature differences as well between the 360 and PS3 versions.

[InMyOpinion]

"3 times better" sounds like a very technical term...

[CG]

OMG pro evo 7 3x better on the ps3 ha ha ha. how anyone can believe this bullsh@t is beyond me.

Hey kingboy get real dumbass, both versions will be near identical.
Keep dreaming about your blu-ray and its advantages because its irrelivent to multiplatform games.

[nice_cuppa]

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[Maddens Raiders]

another thread based on hot blogging rumours. Yes!

[spacetoilet]

Another complete load of bull$hit. Konami are developing both yeah?
So do you really think Konami would program one of their products 3 times crapper than another consoles version? Let alone talk about that?

[BlackCountryBob]

What are the odds that some time later today or tomorrow another story is posted sighting another Konami source who explains that the comments are just misunderstood or subject of a bad translation before saying that the game will be very similar on both 360 and PS3 but will be designed to take advantage of the unique characteristics of each console!

[vidoardes]

Exactally what I was thinking. Same thing I thought when that Splinter Cell article came out

[shysun]

I'll have to see it, to believe it!;)

[M4RK1988]

If this has any ounce of truth in it it's a little bit worrying. I don't think that gap would be that big though, not enough to buy a PS3 for.

[shysun]

This game is huge in Europe so think it will help there though.It could be true but only because I feel that they rush the 360 version......but who knows!?!

[crunkthug]

i believe it!!! i mean why not!!
the last PES on the xbox360 sucks(its not a next gen game compared to fifa)
and 18 gb would be cool
i think there would be more leagues now

[grunt360]

It'll be fun to see your loading times...the time it takes to load will equal the time it takes for the next rubbish game in the series come out. The thing about football games is that they change the colours and names of football teams then they push it out to the people who have fallen for these stupid games. Suckers.

[FeralPhoenix]

Who? oh, this is another forum post....and the link jumps to a page in a different language or did I miss something? Either way assuming that they did in fact make these claims; so what else is new? **news flash** -A dev working on a game that's already old news on the 360, said the PS3 version will be, uhm ahh (3)times better. huh?, lmfao -hell why not 5 or 10 times better....go for the Moon, err I mean Sun Konami! Oh, well the news is slow, isn't there some gaming event coming up soon, we sure do need one. -Perfect time for Crackdown.

[M4RK1988]

Pro Evo 6 was rushed and quite poor, it would have been exactly the same if they had made a PS3 version.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

Good advertising, I guess they don’t want any 360 owners to buy their game. That doesn’t really hurt 360 owners but I can’t imagine any cut in possible sales would be good for Konami. But hey, it’s their company.

[Maldread]

The only way i can see this one as true, is if it`s three times better than the old 360 version (pro evo 6 last year). And when do people from Konami, confirm a FF7 remake from another company ?

I`m going for wishful thinking on this one.

[Antan]

This is garbage! this sort of "news article" should never get to the main page. I think the mods need to clamp down on these forum/blog stories, and let us all start to find "real" stories, there are many out there waiting to be posted! This site will be a whole lot better for it.

[M4RK1988]

But there are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions more 360 owners than PS3 owners. Konami could potentially make much more money from the 360 version so why would they do this?

[anh_duong]

3x better seems a bit exaggerated but i think blu-ray will enable better player textures, motion capture, stadiums and commentary. bear in mind that xbox360 pro6 apparently takes up 7gig and it was acknowledged by most xbox360 owners to be quite poor (offering less stadiums than even the ps2 version). 18 gig for next gen with all the stadia might not seem so outlandish. so capacity is important but doubtful as to whether the ps3 will be 3x better.

also it's a rumor so take all rumors with a pinch of salt

[nice_cuppa]

you can have 200 million billion kagillion gigs of textures on the disc but the thing is ps3 and 360 are 512mb (ish) systems !

unless ps3 can stream textures to the gpu and not need any of the system ram its not going to matter !

stop looking for silly thing and 1ups on 360 !

its clear theres not much between the systems really so do what i do enjoy the games you have, buy the new games you want.

just dont believe 360 or ps3 are something there not as you just leave yourselves open to disapointment and ridicule !

360 has great games !
ps3 has great games !
wii has great games !

enjoy reality and leave the p.r b.s dreams to the guys being paid !

[anh_duong]

i think you missed the point of my argument. i was specifically saying that eventhough the xbox360 version of pes6 is rather light in terms of features it still stacks up (appaerently) 7gigs of disk space so anyone who says 18gig is impossible should really need to reconsider. not saying that 18gig is necessary i am just saying that on record konami do seem to need a lot of space. maybe they should learn more on how to compress data.

[ps1h1ch]

lame article, based on someone's blog, who's identity can't be confirmed. Maybe he cleans toilets for Konami?

The original blog is written in japan so I couldn't check the statements - it's possible people have used google translator on this.

I don't know who can confirm this kind of news if not some very "patriotic" console owners.

[sak500]

What they'll be shooting aliens after the soccer match? Even RFOM wasnt 18gb. Stupid waste of news space. CRap like should not have been allowed to be posted. Or is there a new rule to start posting random, unverifiable bits of flame bait on this site? The guy who tipsed, the poster and all the retards who apporved it should have their head examined.

[anh_duong]

not sure if it is definitely the case but i heard the xbox 360 version of pes takes up 7 gig and i know for sure that the ea fifa 2007 version for the ps2 takes up ~4gig. so pes7 for ps3 taking up more than dvd9 capacity is not impossible - in fact it is highly likely. like i said earlier, more space needed for mapping every player, stadiums and commentary.

in fact according to wikipedia these are the features missing in the xbox 360 pes 6 version - which is quite a lot if you consider the games supposedly takes up 7 gig:

Features missing in the Xbox 360 version
Ability to edit team names
Ability to edit kits
Ability to edit player appearances
Ability to edit boots
Ability to create players
Ability to rename leagues
Ability to move club players
Ability to assign national team players
Random Selection Match
International Challenge Mode
REDUCED NUMBER OF STADIUMS
Other training modes removed
PES SHOP
Replay Save feature, despite being listed in the game's manual as being assigned to X button
Online co-operative play
Snow and rain weather conditions removed
Match Analysis removed

Bear in mind also that pes 7 will be huge because for the first time it will cover all 13 full licensed leagues. So yes, 18gb is possible but i think the 3x better claim is a bit outlandish.

EDIT:

I can confirm that the rarred file for pro evo 6 iso for the xbox 360 is 6.3 gig so 7 gig iso for pes 6 xbox360 is most likely true. Hence, with full 13 league licensing, extra commentary and sound, stadiums, and textures 18 gig is highly likely. I don't think the 18 gig capacity is bull. 9gig limit of DVD might not be enough.

[THWIP]

"I can confirm that the rarred file for pro evo 6 iso for the xbox 360 is 6.3 gig so 7 gig iso for pes 6 xbox360 is most likely true. "

Download illegal games much? :o

[Saint Sony]

Damn, I was thinking it will be 2.832 times better.. but 3 times! WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN?!

[Genki]

I think it's safe to say that a difference of this magnitude is just unprecedented when comparing consoles of the same generation. No matter how much I've heard people nitpick about the multi-platform title differences...there has yet to be anything near this extreme. As a PS3 fan, this would be good news, and I would like to believe it...although it's entirely too far-fetched.

If this were the case, they may as well just make one version all together.

[Bathyj]

Damn I just bought it.

[M4RK1988]

It's not crap, its still an amazing game, just with a lot of features missing.
I still play it a lot.

[sgaap]

...for a soccer game. I know, if you have the space, you can use it by not compressing or optimising anything. Today, there are so many LOSSLESS compression methods for textures/audio/etc.

[nice_cuppa]

on the fly with minimal latency !

and that dvd9 can hold much more than the standard 9 gigs !

only hd video is a problem ! ( and isnt needed in games )

this was done so the move to hd-dvd or blueray wasnt needed !
resulting in a much earlier launch and a cheaper price !

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[MaximusPrime]

More and more game developers are saying that their games will be better on PS3.

Can't wait for PES ;)

[WilliamRLBaker]

I mean really its just a freaking soccer game, Physics programming doesn't take up that much space, so what are they using?

[anh_duong]

you are one ugly baby

[WilliamRLBaker]

Atleast i fought for my country in world war 2! your just one of those milkfed happy babies with out a care in the world!

You'd look like me if you'd seen what i've seen.....(shakes) the horror....the horror my men! they killed all my men!! (shakes and gets a far off look in his eyes) Oh god the mortar shells!!

[anh_duong]

hahaha.. yeah you is ugly, looks like the german army beat you will the ugly stick..

me, i look much better than this normally, it's just from my picture you can see quite clearly i just pooped my pants.

[WilliamRLBaker]

I learned not to crap my pants in the war, so im much better looking then you!

[ben hates you]

well at least i hate soccer, i'm not missing anything

[backslider]

if this is true great but the ps2 version PES6 still beats the crap out of the 360. And now i can play it on my PS3. Cant wait for PES7

[bilal]

this kind of crap hurts one's favorite console the most. When the game would eventually be released, konami would balance both the games and there would be little differenc if at all.

then this 3x (which i dont know how one can calculate) would be flamed to hell when eventually the game releases....

this kind of publicity has hurt the ps3 most (also some crappy ports)....hyping every game so much that pretty much all games fall below expectations.

[Ggame]

Huh!!! Every Xbox360 Fanboy are refusing the great news for PS3.

[LONEWOLF231]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!

Well a friend of a friends friends father said that his uncle knows a monkey that is working for BUNGIE and he told him that they are developing HALO 7 for the PS3 and they say that it will be in 4D..........haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. ...can you belive that 4DDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!

Well i for one am gonna go and sell my 360 and buy myself a PS3 thanks to this article i mean WOW 60FPS, 18GB of BLU-RAY space.......no wait didnt they say the same about Resistance it was around 25GB then the game got released and it was around 16 or so but thanks to padding which was really not needed the damn game could fit on a DVD9 disk!

Nah better not let SONY steal my 600 dollars..........
BUT I MEAN 4DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Gears]

Soccer and Tennis, is that all the PS3 is better at?

[LONEWOLF231]

PanixATK

Not all the Devlopers.... remember EA............360 to win because of better performance ARMY OF TWO 360=60FPS, PS3=30FPS!

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

this will begin happening more and more the farther we get in to these consoles life cycles.

[techie]

lol oh dear "3 times better" - what a lame thing to say

[Xi]

when it's released and the 360 has the better version.

[Black Republican]

3x better - in graphics NO way
3x better - in content VERY POSSIBLE

EDIT: I changed my mind lol --> if the graphics are comparible which means the graphics will be good on both consoles, and ps3 has 3x more content
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that would make it 3x better lol

[xg-ei8ht]

Its all starting to make sense now!

YOUR ALL FANBOYS!!!!

Edit that.

When you talk about models,stadiums,textures.

Every game there out there is compressed.

Resistance probably has less compression then most.

G.O.W i heard has a hell of alot, but as said above the 360 is good at compression, well with the storage space it has, it better be.

Like i'm not sure about x3, but i tell you this.

As games are starting to be built from ground up for ps3. your gonna notice at of differnce.

[kewlkat007]

He confirmed FF7 remake for PS3...

The reason I will purchase a PS3 once this game comes out. Don't care for soccer.

Of course If this is not some fanboy in his moms basement.

Like I stated before, because of the PS3's Cell, the ps3 will be good at having a lot of things on screen all moving at once. A lot of procedural crunching power, but not sure about the looks/graphics.

[Bullseye]

there won't be any differences between PS3 and 360 version of PE7, except for minor ones due to hardware differences and services available.We all know this is true of multi-platform games, but some people just refuse to be realistic.Ask yourself why a company producing a multi-platform game would risk sales by making one version superior to the other? Even if they could do it , they obviously won't.Now i like to banter with the best of you guys, so i'll post my view on this and in the meantime hope that PE7 is x10 times better on either platform, than PE6 was on the 360..

[darx]

Who cares? It's soccer!

[Bullseye]

I'm guessing you are an american, which is fine and dandy accept you really must stop thinking that sports only exist in your country.The world series anybody! If your'e not American then, well eh, sorry, but it's still football and not soccer.

[DADO]

the most popular sport all the way around the world excep in the US. But it is getting more popular in our country. I am still playing FIFA 07 on my PS3 it is a good game.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Bullseye it's football to you. It's soccer to us. I personally respect the fact that you want to call it football, but you can't have two footballs in the same country. Ok so you call it football, we'll call it soccer it's still the same sport.

[nix]

this is only the beginning... all the third party developers will give more content to PS3 and do something cool with the sixaxis... we'll have to remember that developers are creative people and creative people likes to show off what they can do. PS3 certainly gives them more space (Blu-ray), easy access of data (HDD is standard) and extra movement feature (sixaxis)... why would i not make use of these features if i get a chance?

unless MS upgrades its 360 to PS3's level... we'll be hearing lots'a news like this!

[Funky Town_TX]

I hope it will be better. Soccer sucks, maybe the PS3 will make it playable. Go Blu-ray.

[Bonsai1214]

people who play madden year in and year out probably don't understand the rush of a new Pro Evo (or winning eleven here in the states) game. because instead of a new roster and slightly better visuals, pro evo offers better gaming mechanics every year which makes it as almost realistic as playing real soccer.

my little quip with football: so what, almost half the US watches the superbowl. more than half the world watches the world cup..

[gta_cb]

First it does say

"Still this is very much a rumor at this moment."

which means it hasnt been confirmed, so if your gonna make comments try not to make them to fanboyish as they mite come back and hit you in the face when they have confirmed something.

second, i believe the PS3 version will have more content in the disk like more movies songs etc as there is a greater capabillity, BUT with all the multi platform games so far looking identicle or SLIGHTLY better on the Xbox 360, i doubt it will be 3X better.

btw just incase people want to disagree with me, i am not saying it wont happen, i am just stating it says

"Still this is very much a rumor at this moment."

so no official word

[gta_cb]

oh btw neutral gamer, you decided on if your gonna change your name to biased gamer yet?... i think you could pull the act off quite well ;)

[Neutral Gamer]

Haven't you noticed mate, my avatar's starting to slowly change colour, it's starting to fade into black. Over the days it'll carry on in its transition and when it's fully black, Biased Gamer will be born!

Can't wait to have some fun with that ... :p

[sonarus]

Wow 3 times better. Winnin 11 always set the pace for soccer games. Fifa games have gotten better as they begin to follow the winnin 11 playstyle. All in all just means i will buy the game for the PS3.

[PSN Starfleets]

I smell BS

[Birdman18]

honestly, how can someone really measure whether or not a games is "3 times" better.. thats so stupid. if i was konami, i would be pretty embarrassed that i released a game that is good on one console, but awful on another. i highly doubt that's going to happen. for some reason, people still want to be fanboys..this type of stuff is getting old...quickly

[Sevir04]

though i think that Konami is more a sony centric developer it seems feasible but to think 3 times better is a bit of stretch... i say if it's anything better than PE6 then its great or even out shines the 360 fifa which was quite nice to say the least is an improvement... i encourage everyone to talk this with a grain of salt... because it just screams none credible all over it.. though this is on a Konami Blog this would have some wieght to it... it's a big iffy and should be under some serious scrutiny.

I'll wait as i always do... after all the proof is in the putting

[LoveHateTragedy]

for the PS2 version, so this sounds very plausible. Considering there are over 15,000 players and 32 stadiums that they wish to put in (in addition to the countless hours of custom commentary) and it's easy to see why the 360 version was so lacking in features and content.

Microsoft has a cap on how much space devs can use on 360 DVDs, which is 7.9 GB. The other 600MB are blocked off due to security purposes.

[sak500]

WOW...Bluray is required for a soccer game..WOW

[ilovepswii60]

FiFa: world to world up= disaster
Fifa 07= disaster
por evo 6= alright nothing special

[k1ngd4n]

doubt it very much but we`l see, personally i cant see it, wouldnt it be a waste of time then for konami to make a 360 version if the ps3 version was that much better? sounds like a fan boy has been staying up all night thinking of more rumours to spread. lol but who no`s

[LONEWOLF231]

Yes no doubt but the PS2 didnt have the compression method named Procedual Synthesis that the 360 has! So DVD9 is more than enough
If you think otherwise TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT CRYSIS and its only on ONE count them ONE DVD9 and it still looks better than anything either console will be able to come up with!

[ilovepswii60]

thts because crysis downloads alot of its data to the hard drive on your pc.

something that 360 cannot do because of the core system

[LoveHateTragedy]

'procedurally synthesize' Players, Crowd members, Stadiums, and audio commentary. Haha, riiight. BTW, Cell does a much better job with Procedural functions than Xenon. Looks like you got smacked with MS Propoganda. =/

[LONEWOLF231]

AHHH but what about once the CORE system dies off........which can be any time soon?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[ilovepswii60]

doesnt matter if the core systemdies off. people still have it and so what are microsoft gonna do den put a sign saying this game is not compatible with core version. sorry

[soccerstar]

shouldnt be too hard to do since the 360 game looked like a ps2 game

[Pheneus]

never cease to amaze me. Don't you get tired of fighting each other?

[MoonDust]

40x bette than real life! OMG!

[WilliamRLBaker]

A japanese dev has what looks like a korean blog?

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Wernt they the ones saying they needed more space for there soccer games to fit all the teams on there..

[Mike134nl]

If the game is 3 times better than the xb 360 version. Alot of developers will want to know how they managed.(that's without delaying the ps3 version for a year)
At this point in the ps3 lifecycle the development of games on the ps 3 is still harder than for the xbox360. So a game three time better could only mean a game which takes three time more disk space(not necesairely "unique data" on the disk).

[SpinalRemains138]

It better be better on PS3. The PS3 is the better system. I don't see what the arguing is about

[troylazlow]

have fun with you soccer ps3 fanboys

[BrainDead]

stop crying.

[bigmack]

360 SUCKS DONKEYASS!!!

[greasyspoon41]

well of course the ps3 version of pro will be around 3 times better, seeing as the ps3 itself is at least 3 times better than the 360 :-P

[Kratosnake]

Anyone has an idea when this PES on PS3 actually coming out?

[StateofMind]

If true, I'd be very glad to see a developer taking advantage of the PS3 while still keeping a game multi-platform. I could care less if every PS3 exclusive went multi-platform, I just don't want the game to be watered down to allow it ala Grand Theft Auto IV. With the current multi-platform trend, I'm very glad to see this. Just looks like a rumor to me though.

[THE_JUDGE]

look fan-freaking-tastic so I'm going to maybe pick it up. I'm a huge fan of winning eleven anyway.

[Kuest]

"Grand theft auto" sucks because its coming out for both systems. you HAVEN'T even SEEN, or PLAYED the game yet. IF it comes out and, gues what, turns out that everything you said (360's bringing down the PS 3 with its inferior graphics capabilities etc. etc. etc.) was true, that would be an appropiate time to scream out "Xbox 360 sucks- Kuest in YOUR face!".

As for the Pro Evo, well.. I can't say I'm not suprised. The franchise has consitently been more allinged w/ Sony. Still, it is dissapointing to know that 360 won't benefit from these features after having to put up w/ all those dumb@ss PS 2 grpahics (C'mon Konami!) but I guess thats because Xbox can't really handle TRUE Next Gen graphics like the PS 3. You got any proof, Greasyspoon.

[dragunrising]

Spoken like a true dumbass...

[Kratos_Kart2007]

Winning 11 is a much better game than Fifa......

It has mre realism...lets hope this article is accurate....when is the releaase date???

[tk]

He is the brother of the guy at EA who phones in and says this platform is better than that one....

Grow up kids. Let the game get release before you get your knickers in twist.

PS3 is bound to have more levels on some games with more detail, if the devs decide to only release a single DVD for XB360. I think most will just shrug and release a two or three DVD edition for the XB360 and let people just swop disks. Little bit annoying - but hey - what can they do.

[TheXgamerLive]

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[23478ueyur_938223]

not enough news.