Lost In Translation: Splinter Cell Conviction Possible on PS3

According to a Finnish gamer on the PS3Forums, he claims, "Well that's pretty faulty translation. The dev never says, that the game wouldn't be possible on the ps3. He only states that IF they would have gone multiplatform, they would have to change the lightning effects radically because of the differences of coding for each consoles. He actually says nothing bad about the PS3."

[Blackmoses]

Cmon'!!! I knew this when the first article popped up. It sure was entertaining to watch it implode with comments though. To all you fanboys....Get a Grip!

[snake_eater]

WTF?????? PS3 FORUMS?????

[TriggerHappy]

This was infact posted by an Xbox360 owner who is also a moderator.

[shysun]

To little to late Ubi.....we hate you!:(

[Bigmac573]

Its amazing what people will believe when it's not written in their own language.

[razer]

One sissy 360 fanboy posted and article about Splinter Cell not running on the PS3. Which doesn't even matter because the PS3 won't even see this game. Then another sissy fanboy posted this article to offset the other. While at the same time nobody really gives a flip and it will not increase Sony's sale or lose sales for the 360. Back in high school we used to call these pee pee wars. It's just unfortunate that it puts the credibility of this site and it's users in the toilet..

[gta_cb]

razer nice comment lol

[dodgefate]

well seeing this with no comments you can see how many xbot fanboys are on the site 307 on 1st one an non on this one huh I guess they feel dumb for even talking in last one.

bet this one wont even hit 100

[Evil Rant Monkey]

What does that even mean?

[Skizelli]

I had trouble understanding him myself.

[Hayabusa 117]

I guess you were proved wrong.

[Violater]

Violater - 23 Hours ago
56 - Sigh
"With Ubisoft's love of money I doubt this will be exclusive for too long.
I think again guys we need to just relax if not wait for official word."

[tehcellownu]

Exactly i think SC wont be exclusive since they want to make money..lol..xbots got owneD!!!big time

[Silver360]

Was announced as an exclusive for MS. Not timed exclusive, but exclusive that is why all this crap started because the are optimizing the game for the 360. That is why he made the lighting comments and such.

[gta_cb]

@ Silver360

yeh i think your right

[ThaGeNeCySt]

now let's see everyone give praise back to Ubisoft & the Splinter Cell series.

[bootsielon]

Only 360 fanboys

[TheXgamerLive]

This would be just as doable on the ps3 as the last Splinter cell 4 was, in other words, like yesterdays article said, "Not Doable" atleast not pretty anyways. Facts are facts. When a ps3 game comes out that even looks kind of next gen. theirs always a sacrifice to it somewhere to allow any good graphics to come through.

Look at every game and you'll see it, R-FOM, Motorstorm, Lair....they all suffer the same 3 things.

let the ps3 do what it does best, folding @ home, ......just not video games.

Oh and go ahead weak ass sony wannabe ps3 fan boys, take another bubble away so you can feel justified like good little boys. The truth hurts so you gotta do something to feel like you have testes, right?

[techie]

"Look at every game and you'll see it, R-FOM, Motorstorm, Lair....they all suffer the same 3 things."

And which three things would this be?

And what about the sacrifices made for Gears. Stuff had to be cut to fit it on a DVD. Amount of characters on screen.

There are sacrifices for all platforms. The translation...says that there would have to be some changes to the code etc...which is pretty obvious. If it's to do with lighting...well then there are games on the PS3 which have amazing lighting...eg. HS, Motorstorm.

[trane07]

I mean DAMN. Thats pretty funny now. There were hordes of them fools up in the ps3 news area screaming "black diamonds and pearls" to their 360 when they read that splinter cell conviction news. And now when it all falls down, Where the hell are they now?

Thats what ALL of them get for talking so damn much and not knowing the least bit of what they are talking about. And xgamer, if you believe that folding at home is what ps3 does best then thats like saying so far the 360 does best is catching red. Keep that towel wrapped tight around that system xgamer. you were one of the main clowns talking nothing but bull over the news yesterday. What'chu and the rest of them damn fanboys got to say now?

"Oh and go ahead weak ass sony wannabe ps3 fan boys, take another bubble away so you can feel justified like good little boys. The truth hurts so you gotta do something to feel like you have testes, right?"

Don't try to get all in some hissy fit just because we know your punk ass don't really know what you're talking about in reference to the ps3. Just another damn xboy with microsoft's shaft dug up their ass reaching all the way to their brain.

"Its in my brain!!"

[Karibu]

take a finnish persons word then.
That artile doesn't even remotely suggest that new SC is not doable on PS3.

[TheXgamerLive]

just like the last version, it just wont look very good.

[LoveHateTragedy]

What those three games really suffer from is awesomeness.

[NikV3]

UT3 will be grapgicly better on the ps3 than the 360, when you have deveopers who know what they're doing, the ps3 is a better system than the 360, he said it, and the president of insomniac said it. and in case you dont know who mark reign is, he is the vp of epic games.

[techie]

Xgamer. No you didn't, you said PS3 should stick to folding like a r*tard.

NikV3 - don't go around spuing that. Unless you can find a link saying that...I don't believe you, and noone else will either.

[sumfood4u]

UBI seems Lost In Translation! Can't say I didn't see It comming! Believe It!

[paracardium]

This gaming site is becoming like 360 UNRELIABLE. :(

[Skizelli]

Yeah, and there are as many intelligent comments on this site as there are good PS3 games.

[silent ninja]

it amazes me how people beleive anything devs say. but seriously who gives a f**k if its possible or not

[razer]

Who cares.. But I still think the fact remains that it's 360 exclusive. Take that for what it's worth..

[BrainDead]

ha ha.

[drtysouf21]

See I knew it read my comment from the other article its number 1.6 This is exactly what i said about the whole translating thing.

[xg-ei8ht]

OMG NEWS!!!!

UBISOFT LOVES MONEY!!!!

[PS3n360]

I am glad I didnt bash the PS3 yesterday about this. I only own 360 but I never did and still dont beleive you cant do any game on either console. It may look a little different but thats it. There arent that many game genre's and they are all being done on all consoles even ones from 2 generations ago. These articles are stupid.

[elliot_]

splinter cell never was one of my fav games...probably it don't enter on my top 30...i've only played pandoras tommorrow and chaos theory...

so if it goes to sony's console or not...don't bother me

[gta_cb]

yeh same here, i have only played it on the PSP and with the lack of 2 analog sticks it was horrid!

[TheMART]

Ofcourse it was nonsense.

That's the same with Lair and MGS4. Both can be done on the 360.

You'll see more exclusive developers say their exclusive can only be done on the system they're working on. That's marketing

[Premonition]

trust me both games wont look the same on both system, Cell is way different from the xbox360's CPU and thus some games wont be able to be done unless they code it just for that system and since both system arent exactly the same to the bone, it is possible to see some games cant be done on a certain system, so basically Wii can do any game exact like what xbox360 and PS3 can do, I dont think so. Example if the Cell is made to handle a certain amount of AI calculations then it wont look as good as it would on the 360 since the CPU isnt made for intense calculations. As for graphics both are pretty even.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

We know for a FACT that Lair can't be done on the 360. As far as graphics go, yes...but the draw-distance and physics would have to undergo massive changes...

MGS4 may be possible...but there's no telling how many discs Hideo would have to use.

I do believe that Power of Green got SERVED and so did TheMart...

[cartman313]

Cell beats xb360's cpu not only in calculations, but also in it's ability to do graphics. Xb360 has a General Purpose CPU. Which doesn't have a lot to do with gaming, except maybe for AI.

[chrno6]

Of course, Lair can be done on the 360, with no dragons on the sky.

[razer]

saying Lair can't be done on the 360 becomes a developer then maybe I will believe you. Right now you are just spewing fanboy BS. Please give it a rest.. This draw distance BS and # of enemies crap is total garbage. Just look at a game like Kameo(# of enemies) or Just Cause (draw distance) it can be done so stop being blind.

[gta_cb]

@razer

they dont want to tell the truth

[omegaheat]

What amazes me is that everytime something negative comes from the devs regarding the PS3, there's always some mysterious blogger or what have you running to the rescue for damage control. It's become very obvious in this generation that us gamers have the ball on our side of the court. When ever any news gets blown out of proportion, someone behind the scenes of these companies reads the forums like the daily newspaper, and they will do anything to convince us gamers that something was perhaps either translated wrong or re-word quotes entirely. If our opinion as gamers matter this much, then we need to focus most of that negative energy towards our favorite hardware companies, Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony respectively. We need to express our anger more about why certain mediocre games make it to retail carrying the $59.99 price tag, why some games are released with so many bugs just because the devs were trying to target a release date, why some of the best games don't get well deserved sequels, why are so many games trying to look like another games art style instead of following the beat of its own drum. My whole point is if you own a 360, PS3, or Wii, then support that console by demanding the games that you want and stop all the flame wars about which console you next door neighbor has. Us 360 owners have Halo, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, and a bunch of other titles that makes the Xbox community a home for its fans. The PS3 has God of War, the best Final Fantasies, Metal Gear games... so far, and they have become common place for the Sony community. And Nintendo has...er...well Nintendo has Mario starring in every genre there is except a first person shooter, but if that's what you like, I'm not mad at you. Well I'm sure you guys get my point. Splinter Cell Conviction is probably temporarily going to be an exclusive because the devs find the 360 hardware easy to develop for and that's just the way it is. Square gave us the left-overs of Final Fantasy online and thought it was worthy of next gen status. Now that's something to be mad about.

[cartman313]

How fun would that be, a Mario FPS. I would buy a Wii for that one.

[Biphter]

I Especially agree that us gamers need to look at the fact that games this gen are going to become more and more buggy. Its happening already. And we are all getting used to waiting for "Patches". This I fear alot and its due mostly to the fact that consoles are now "Connected" to the net.

Consoles are supposed to be easy to use and the games should just work out the box (Wii is good at this, but sorry folks, its not next gen in my eye). They are getting more and more "PC" in nature. Updated firmware (Which has been bricking some Xbox 360 consoles, apparently. Last falls update caused mine to Ring of Death, then I reset it and it was fine)...patches for games, and more patches to fix the patches.. even "addons" that should have been there in the first place! (Looking at you Motorstorm, great game, just not finished).

Anyway..

As far as Splinter Cell goes... Anyone remember the very first version? It was Xbox "Exclusive" way back when PS2 was becoming king (Later appearing on other formats as the series developed). Maybe the developers just like Xbox/Xbox 360 Architecture... Is that such a big deal?

Look at MGS3... that appeared on Xbox. Are you all going to have a fit if MGS4 appears on Xbox 360? I know im not. These days devs need to go multi platform because development costs are going nuts! So it makes sense. And maybe some day soon Trip Hawkins' Idea of a single format will become a reality (I hope not, but it looks to be heading that way)

BTW, Im new here.. I Own a PS3 (I sold my 360 to fund, it... not because I hated it, just don't have loads of money).

[PS360PCROCKS]

Wow I love how no one on here can agree on over anyone's opinion so they go to a website and get an opinion from a forum so everyone can complain some more. Lol this is too funny.

[NikV3]

this game comes out around the same time as MGS4, then we can see what franchise is better, not that everyone doesent already know

[WilliamRLBaker]

I said this exact same thing when the first article popped up, you all got in a tizzy about it, and I said it might have been mistranslated, or the place could have lied...ect

[Grown Folks Talk]

most sony fans dislike the game anyways. it's more popular on the xbox platform, and always will be.

[chrno6]

you are right. Msg4 is a much better and popular game anyways.

[Grown Folks Talk]

popular. personally i'd play splinter cell over metal gear any day. in fact, i'd play the original syphon filter over metal gear any day. both spy games, but 2 completely different mindsets and styles.

[geachy]

bla,bla,bla

[hamburgerhill]

What is up with all the comparison crap on every game in every genre for 360 and PS3! We have SC5 versus MGS4, Halo versus Killzone, Forza versus GT, Home versus Live, Rumble versus motion, DVD9 versus BluRay, 1080p versus 720p, cell versus xenon, Hdmi versus Vga, FF versus Blue Dragon, Doa versus Vf versus Tekken, GEOW versus Resistance, 360 launch lineup versus PS3 launch lineup, and so on and so on! Will there ever be a day where we can just all be happy and enjoy games for what they are? Maybe we should make a day up called gamers love day once a year were we all just come out of the closet and say nice things to one another and throw like a big festival with Sony and MS fans holding hands or something and singing tunes from Halo and Metal gear!

[cartman313]

lol, good one. People are competitive, so they feel they must defend what they purchased. Whether it be making up a bunch of lies, or comparing screen shots.

[id dot entity]

Translation faults will always be there. They are with us since... well, the bible for example.

[Russbomb]

Goes to show that when a foreign language is envolved you can't trust anything, or maybe the morale is, don't trust finland. ??????

[power of Green]

If you read the first post it never sounded like be was trashng the PS3 all i got from it is that SC5 at its current design could not be done on the PS3. This is just PS damage controll. lol If it even trust worthy?. Hell most of the News i see on PS3 forums get their news from sites like this and often post only the pro Sony new even if its rubbish the and its posted as real news, really i'v seen plenty of Sony spite post from this site in PS3 forurms asreal news, do you actually think the Sony hype machine will allow statments like the one from the devs to exist.

This news post is BS although i do agree that the dev was never bashing the PS3.

[achira]

haha xbots got powned, hahaaaa, retards!!!

[ChickeyCantor]

Did you know that PS3 can do more then one bubble on screen?
amazing isnt it -achira-?

[FeralPhoenix]

Well I said it was all about marketing yesterday and although I never believed that SC: C couldn't be done on PS3....I still find this news just as comical, its a comment from someone on a "ps3forum" saying it was mis-translated, maybe it was and hopefully we will see a accurate translation from a source that's a tad bit more official....hell why not use one of the comments from the N4G post yesterday and post it as news and then the link doesn't really help at all, unless you read Finnish. -Then again, do we really need to hear anymore at all? -It was marketing plain and simple.....now you guys can stop bashing Ubisoft until of course AC is released with one pixel out of place on either version and the fanboys can go at it again.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

In not changing my opinion of SC it still is a under par game

[Shaka2K6]

Well duh!

[timmyp53]

i can almost smell the sarcasm

[ReconHope]

evey damn exclusive developer says this about their game. but what they all should say is"at the current state of this game it's not doable on anyother platform."

[Robotz Rule]

Stupid Xbots who thought it wasn't possible on the PS3:)

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I love how you idiots forget so easy. Remember these little bundles of joy...and laughter.

[Russbomb]

by the way does anyone know anything about akira?
if they do please contact me.
yes I know that may seem off the subject but it is relavent if you know what akira is.

[hamburgerhill]

What about Akira and are you talking about the anime?

[hamburgerhill]

Please tell me there is a part 2 on the way!

[ben hates you]

i don't i'll be getting the game. and be looking forward to it. none of this incident bothers me

[power of Green]

Quote: Well that's pretty faulty translation. The dev never says, that the game wouldn't be possible on the ps3. He only states that IF they would have gone multiplatform, they would have to change the lightning effects radically because of the differences of coding for each consoles".

^^^Thats not saying anything either way!; but he did say what they're doing on the 360 hardware is not acheivalbe on PS3. Could PS3 get the same results if built from the ground up, who knows?, I guess we can say this about this matter if switched around with a PS3 dev saying something like this about the 360.

#35.1 there shouldn't be that much a difference no matter what. I doubt it was because of lazy devs, Sure the Romans built wonderful structures and had grand Architecture but for somebody to say that moderen day construction workers and Architects are lazy, well thats funny(tools and ease of bulding with them/ materials/Hardware).

[AngryTypingGuy]

I don't see how LAIR couldn't be done on a 360. The 360 has proven already that it's capable of some pretty impressive stuff. I think showing flying dragons and huge waves in the ocean are within its capability.

I am not sure why some people are bashing the 360's graphics when compared to the PS3's especially when many of the multiplatform games look and run better on the 360 when put side by side.

I will admit that the PS3 on paper looks a bit more powerful that the 360 as far as specs go. However, specs aren't everything. The complexity in programming a game will always go a long way, and just about every developer whose comments I've read has said that the 360 is much easier to develop for. The proof is in the pudding, just look at the games so far.

The easiness of programming 360 games (especially because they're similar to a PC) makes making games for the 360 much more attractive for developers. The PS3 may surpass the 360 in terms of sales one day (then again, it may not), however in terms of game quality and the number of great games being available, the 360 will have the advantage in the coming years. In my humble opinion, that is.

[Karibu]

X360 just need a HDD... and Cell and BD... AND Sixaxis.

[OneBubbleBastard]

haha M$ and everything related to it, is stepping in more sh*t everyday..

-What a crappy company- crappy devs too who are paid by them..

OH yeah LAIR can be done on the 360.. Yeah with YOSHI.

[chrisin3]

this just proves the point: quality and accurate gaming news is damn near impossible to find anymore. Too many sources and too much bias.

[RUF1]

I meant to comment on this earlier, but I couldn't log in. I kinda figured that it was a translation error. I doubt very much that it couldn't be done on PS3, but we have known for quite some time that the next installment of the Splinter Cell series was to be Xbox 360-only. 'Nuff said! Let the "rumor wagon" come to a screeching halt!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Nuff said.

[warfed]

look at my avatar..

[bootsielon]

...that both systems have their advantages and disadvantages.

My opinion is that PS3 has a higher theoretical performance. That is, if you optimize it well enough to run at its highest potential, then you'll see games that look (or behave) better than the ones on 360.

But the 360 is a lot easier to program for, not only because of the tools, but also because of its architecture. Less cores, more common technology, unified RAM and shaders, also facilitate the development process. You'll also manage to do some things you can't do on PS3. BUT, there are more things you can do on PS3 that you can't do on 360, if you know how to use the Cell in combination with the RSX, if you know how to efficiently use the segregated pipelines and segregated RAM, plus it has Blu-ray which, if it is used the way it should, should get you much bigger games, levels, textures, sound, video, and so on; the hard drive should eliminate loading times. Plus, the hard drive and Blu-ray eliminate the eed to compress or to render things through procedural synthesis (to save disc space), and therefore saving processing time for other things, and therefore being able to take advantage of the cell on more things.

As you can see, both systems are great and you might see on 360 things you won't on PS3. And if Sony wants to with its first and second party studios (as they're doing), you'll see the PS3 do a lot more things that the 360 can't do (a lot more processing, perhaps better graphics if you focus the cell solely on graphics, better physics, AI (See: Edge), less loading times, more content).

Nobody will be left unsatisfied, and there's no question you're getting what you paid for with both consoles.

[kevin]

lair could be done on the 180 but it will look like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and the pitiful thing is even if 180 could do lair it surely surely wont be able to do the games that are in the works and that are comming for the ps3

[kevin]

dont you idiots get it this isnt even the graphics that ps3 is made to do the graphics on any machine for gaming so far is middle gen until a developer comes out and is willing to access ps3s movie cutscene rendering realtime graphics we will not see a true next gen game and that is all

[macsto]

"IF they would have gone multiplatform, they would have to change the lightning effects radically "

So the original article was right, ubisoft say sc5 not acheivable on ps3 at current state, meaning with all lighting effects as they are.

[bamdad]

i never liked the SC series, so i dont care. they all suck

[snoop_dizzle]

it just gets more and more interesting every day.

btw thanks kevin for not writing a super long posts.

Much appreciated. =)

[snoop_dizzle]

i don't really mind which console its on when i buy it.

If this comes out before I get a PS3, ill get it on the 360, if it comes out after i get a PS3 i guess i might get it for the PS3.

I don't really mind either way, but i know ill enjoy it.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Hey Kev, very clever with the Paper Mario video.

I was wondering what games are in the works that will blow away anything the 360 can do. Mobile Suit Gundam 37, or whatever number they're up to now?

By the way, Spiderman 3 just came out, and everyone is saying that it is yet another multiplatform game that performs better on the 360. Go figure.

[Karibu]

many platorms games did perform better on PS2, go figure.

[MikeGdaGod]

knew this was coming

[naturalgamer]

it feels so good to own the best system available. and that is ps3.

[Daz]

Yeah its so good to own both of the best systems available, Where i can play all and not be anti microsoft or sony, So sad lol

[Russbomb]

why would you wan to own both?
you still get entertainment with just one console.
thats the point of buying one right?

[Daz]

I own both because ps3 got a good blu ray player and good games coming out what are not on xbox 360 and the 360 got good games what are coming out what are not on ps3 and good online. Got it?

[Saint Sony]

What is the purpose of this "NEWS"?
Of course everyone knows it's possible to do for PS3 ffs, but dev is not sure if it will ever happen. They started to make this game 2 years ago when PS3 was still under development. They would have to build the GAME from the scratch to make it as good for PS3. It is currently made totally xbox360 in mind and we all know PS3 is a totally different system.

Nothing to see here! Move on!

[unicronic]

I am not biased to any system, all 3 next gen systems are great. What you will see on PS3 is fair amount of "lazy ports" appearing and developers giving 360 exclusives because it is easier to develop for.

Game developers who put the time and effort in will, in time, release technically superior products. With the 6-axis, BluRay, and 60GB HDD they have a technically superior platform to work towards.

PS3 owners will just have to accept 360 will get alot of mainstream ports from PC either in better shape or exclusives.

However the future will be interesting for 360, with the decision to give the 360 userbase fragments specs i.e. optional HD-DVD, small HDD etc some developers will choose PS3 because of a stable base.

Bottom line is if PS3 and 360 don't intrigue opposite users than someone has gone wrong somewhere.

[bluebrad1974]

If the lighting couldn't be done on the PS3, then what does that mean? I have never seen a Splinter Cell game that a Playstation console could run the way the game is supposed to be run.

[timmyp53]

i guess some people were humbled by this and accepted the power of both systems

[Bhai]

And what I said was that I would only believe that SC:Conviction isn't doable on PS3 only if Ubisoft talks technology...that is, what is the let down ! but that is cleared up now, good clearance !
Looking at 'Lair' and then SC:Conviction and thinking that the later is not doable always made me laugh.

[Says you]

Resistance Fall of Man and Lair and MotorStorm didnt suffer nothing considering hes lieing and cant back his words up since hes an XBox 360 fan. and what did Resistance Fall of Man and Lair MotorStorm suffer from exactely when your not the one that made the PS3 or the hardware thats in it like the Cell or the graphics card XGamer.