Bioshock 2 Exclusive Debut Gameplay HD

Meet the big sister, go swimming and drill your way to victory!

[xhi4]

Except the graphics, maybe it's just me, but especially the fire etc. don't really feel that realistic, same with the underwater water.

[PS360PCROCKS]

"this IS running on Unreal Engine 3"

which IS running 3 of the best looking titles to date (mass effect, bioshock, gears)

Oh and number 1, the fire looks fine to me, same as the first. Also, watch the HD version, the underwater looks phenomonal, air bubbles and debris floating around. I thought the same when I watched it on my tv in SD before I saw the HD version here.

edit: I never said Gears, Mass Effect and Bioshock were the 3 best, just 3 OF the best. Uncharted, Resident evil 5, killzone 2 also would obviously be mentioned. Oh and MGS4 meh it looks really good, but I tried playing it and it's jaggy heaven. I never intended on finishing it as I don't particularly enjoy the franchise. But the jaggies on just about everything we're really annoying.

haha from 4 agrees and no disagrees to 7, oops PS fans have arrived,

[NDN_Shadow]

With a few UE 3 features. Dunno what BioShock 2 will be running.

Going back to BioShock 2, this games looks like it will be very divisive judging off some of the initial GameTrailers comments. Guess we'll just have to wait to see who's gonna be right and who's gonna be wrong.

[RememberThe357]

The top three best looking console games are Gears 2, MGS4, and Killzone 2.

Anyway, I thought it looked amazing, better then Gears 2, even. I played the demo of the first and I really wasn't feeling it, but for people who enjoyed the first and are looking foreword to the sequel, I'm sure they feel very satisfied.

[Bnet343]

Looks good. It seems a little bit faster so maybe there will be multiplayer this time?

[Dragun619]

Man, that trailer was badass with the music in the background and then when he took out the drill and rammed into guy, like Epic,man. Damn, Can't wait to play as Big Daddy.

Also graphics look great and if you thought it didn't look great well I'm sure there gonna polish the game once they finished it up Since the release date is November 30, 2009 (gametrailers have claim). A lot of time to improve the games graphics even though they're already Great as it is, as shown in the trailer.

[Panthers]

I would say that Uncharted looks better than all those games you mentioned, even KZ2. But yea, UE3 is not running any of the best looking games.

Uncharted, KZ2 and MGS4

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

I have no problem if the game has no graphical upgrades, but if there are no significant gameplay upgrades then what's the point? I love new storylines but any new game should have new gameplay additions.

[LastDance]

Uncharted looks better than gears of war 2.

[callahan09]

You're getting a lot of disagrees there, PS360WiiRocks... Personally, I think you're right. The Unreal Engine 3 is a pretty good engine. Gears 2 looks good, Bioshock looks good, Mass Effect looks good. The only problem I have with the engine and those games is that there is a pretty fair amount of texture pop-in and slow-down in all three of those games, and basically every other game that pushes that engine to its limits. By the way, I played the 360 version of all three of those games (well, there is no other version of Gears 2, but you get the idea).

I think this video of Bioshock 2 looks great. The lighting is really nice and you're right about the underwater segment there, which looked really great.

I do think that you're wrong about Metal Gear Solid 4. I've played through that game numerous times and I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with the jaggies. It's a gorgeous game with ridiculously detailed textures and graphics, large environments, and great animation. I didn't notice jaggies, pop-in, or slow-down in the game at any point, so for my money I'd call it the best engine out there for consoles at the moment. Killzone 2 has better lighting and it's probably the most impressive game visually that I've seen on a console, but it does suffer some slow-downs during segments of each level where it loads up the next segment. It isn't a big issue, but Metal Gear Solid 4 never hiccups.

Anyway, back to Bioshock 2... it's looking great, and the UE3 certainly still holds up and can produce a great looking game.

[XLiveGamer]

Could this be GOTY ?

All i know its a 1st day buy.

Can't Wait for It !!!!!!

[1ikedamaster]

Anyone having doubts about it being Bioshock 1.5, looks the same, etc. I encourage you to read Game Informer's Interview about the game. Very insightful & informative about the game. You will be sold. With that said, a must buy for me as well. Bought Bioshock CE day 1 and it was an experience like no other. I still have the Big Daddy that came with the Collector's Edition sitting right here at my desk(with drill tip broken off of course lol). CE included the soundtrack and bonus features DVD along with the "Big Daddy" figurine as well.

[chaosatom]

But I guess I was expecting too much since it's unreal engine.

The gameplay does look solid, so that's good.

[CommonSense]

I still can't figure out why people think killzone 2 is such a good looking game. it looks like crap. you can't tell what object's laying on the ground are just a few feet in front of you. all the character models look the same...fat. The stuff out in the distance is just a back drop...doesn't even move. Like the mushroom cloud in the later part of the game where you have to blow up the 4 towers.
the only thing that looks good about killzone is the gun in your hand. that's it. the fire looks bad, the electricity gun looks terrible. There are no bullet wounds on the guys when you shoot them.
the lighting is cheap and often puts a giant red circle in the center of your screen for "realism" but it's really just a way of tricking your eyes.

i could go on for a while about how killzone 2 is incredibly over rated and one of the most UNenjoyable experiences of this generation. but hey, i'm talking to a website dominated by ps3 fanboys, so it's not a battle i can win. but for the ppl who aren't slaves to ps3 and just like good games, we can see that killzone is junk.

as for MGS4. yes, it looks great. but it's not cuz of the graphics. it's the presentation and their attention to detail. the graphics are average for this generation. but it's the the way the camera moves in the in-game cut scenes, all the explosions and battles going on all around you, the little puffs a smoke when bullets hit the ground right next to you. it truly is one of the best games of this generation simply because of the amazing presentation. if you gave that game's engine to another developer, the game would likely look like crap.

People are so easily tricked into thinking a game has good graphics because that's what they want to see. when you get past your bias, however, it's plain as day.

Some of the best looking games of this generation are Farcry 2, Assassin's Creed, and Gears of War 2. but all these games have flaws (and it doesn't mean they are great games), and when you compare them to PC games, even the highest end games of this generation look VERY dated. and i think the most impressive looking console game this generation is MGS4, but that is not saying i think it has the best graphics. it's the overall presentation of the game that makes it so nice.

[Sonyslave3]

look awesome.

lol i forgot i can't say a game look awesome if it not ps3 exclusive.

[Shaka2K6]

..

[Montreafart]

How does it feel stupid bots? To know that 99% of all games on the 360 are multi platform titles.

How does it feel to lose another "exclusive" title. ALL YOUR GAMES ARE BELONG TO US!

Hahahaha

[NewZealander]

how does it feel to lose an exclusive? i dont actually care.

bioshock is an awesome game and i always thought it should be multi plat so everyone has the chance to experience it, maybe you are bitter over loseing final fantasy, virtua fighter, devil may cry and the list goes on....

grow up kid theres more to life then games.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Hey Shaka2K6 you should do some research, head over there ---> to the search bar and type Bioshock 360 and PS3 comparison. I'll save you the work... you lose.

[commodore64]

yeah, Jason.

In the face of overwhelming evidence, it is astounding that so many ps3 fans disagree with cold hard facts.

I suppose, for a ps3 fan, it is difficult to acknowledge that ps3 multiplats just don't cut the mustard, when one has paid twice as much for said ps3.

For all those who doubt this, don't fret. Instead, get edu-ma-cated:
(Bioshock1:)

http://www.gameplayer.com.a...
http://www.ripten.com/2008/...
http://au.gamespot.com/page...
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
"What matters is that the brilliantly realised city of Rapture is diminished on PS3 - first of all with a reduction in resolution - a drop from 720p to 680p, and secondly by the inclusion of an utterly useless, detail-destroying blur effect that kills fine detail. Yup, the dreaded Vaseline effect is back, once again lowering picture quality for PS3 owners with absolutely zero benefit whatsoever."

yeah.
It's pretty clear.

[Fencefry]

Swimming? Cool :) Looks like dual wielding is gonna be great too.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Yes it does look good. The graphics do look better to me but it still has more months of polish to go. I plan on definitely picking this one up because I loved the first.

[joydestroy]

i couldn't get past the first 20min of the first game. it just didn't sit well with me.

the second one, however, looks a lot better. the sounds, gameplay, effects, and powers all look tons better. and this is just a preview.
day1 for me.

[chaosatom]

Day 2 for me.

[Cheeseknight28]

Really? You didn't like the original but this one has you sold... because it looks better?

That's pathetic. I would never buy a game solely because I liked the graphics more than it's predecessor.

[Sonyslave3]

lol that why the ps3 version need a update just to match the 360 version lol

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

You mean, why does the PS3 version need an update to look like crap AKA the 360 version? BioShock is just an Unreal Engine 3 game and when they updated the game on PS3 it didn't just match the 360 version, it surpassed it.

[DelbertGrady]

Seriously, get over it. Your level of denial scares me.

http://www.giantbomb.com/bi...

From Eurogamer: "What matters is that the brilliantly realised city of Rapture is diminished on PS3 - first of all with a reduction in resolution - a drop from 720p to 680p, and secondly by the inclusion of an utterly useless, detail-destroying blur effect that kills fine detail. Yup, the dreaded Vaseline effect is back, once again lowering picture quality for PS3 owners with absolutely zero benefit whatsoever."

"In the like-for-like sections captured for this feature, the PS3 version was far more prone to dropping down to 20fps at any given moment, even on the undersea voyage intro sequence, whereas the 360 game does a pretty good job of staying at the requisite 30 frames per second."

"11-minute, 5GB mandatory install"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

If you like multiplat games you are playing on the wrong console.

[II Necroplasm II]

I wonder which console platform bioshock 2 will be lead on

[ape007]

I agree with you,360 got better multiplats

bioshock

gta 4(ps3 version is nearly crippled,trust me)

lost planet

and xbox live is the best online service

devs need to build mp games on ps3

[fanboi hater]

why oh why must there be some many good games coming out at the end of this year there is only so much time and so much money in my pocket. lol

On topic this looks awesome a definite buy if the first game is any indication. The new ability to shoot and wield plasmids looks really cool too. Overall looks to be a great addition to the franchise and I can't wait to return to rapture.

A last note - as far as graphics goes firstly I'm glad they stuck to the same art style with no alterations, however i was expecting maybe a little bit more of an upgrade. Yet the first game looked amazing so it's not really a problem. Just not quite the next step forward in graphics but it does look good. imo

But what do the rest of you think about the graphics??

[GVON]

Still a good 4-5 months left but from that I think it looks ok but no better.

I'll get some disagrees for this,and it's just graphics I'm looking at not "teh gameplay" because that should be decent.

The one thing that really stood out is how bad the animation is,
(here goes) After KZ2 (:D) I look at all these games and the animation looks like a Ps2 game,It's like when goldeneye came out then going back on Doom 64 I was like "hell no".
In my eyes KZ2 has become the standard in console (even pc) fps animation,and now everyone has to match it or I'm left looking at it thinking animation sucks.

I really like the water,it's just a load of slow moving particles but it looks kind of dreamy,and I do really like that.

[vickers500]

Well you don't really notice the death animation of an enemy when you're battling like 5 others at a time, so animation ingame while you are in a battle, isn't that important to me. I thought the helgahst animations were good, but they never really stood out to me and made me go "wow".

I don't know, maybe I'm just one of the few who doesn't care about over complex physics (that you don't really notice) that don't really make that much of a difference when it comes to enemy death in video games. I mean how many ways can you be entertained by watching someone fall down? It's really not all that exciting, to me at least.

[Gambit07]

I'm sure this will be a good game, I loved the 1st, but this just looks like some DLC, since the art style used is exactly the same.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Uh...what? No offense, but what did you expect? The last citizens decided the only underwater city needs a makeover? I don't get it...It's the same and ONLY city of course it's going to look the same.

[Bnet343]

It's a sequel ... why the hell would you change the game? The first one was good.

[Gambit07]

I know what your saying, take Uncharted for example, the sequels setting looks completely different, I just hope there is other places to visit besides Rapture.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I LOVED Bioshock, so either way I'm going to play this. The atmosphere and graphics look astounding again, I'm impressed. I loved that video it was really damn cool. But my wtf moment is what is up with the little sister's voice? Not only is it different it's downright annoying now...or is it just me?

edit:: Oh I forgot my only gripe, I wish the drill like had a small pause and "drilled" the guy, not just like hit him and have him go flying :(

edit edit:: exactly!! I wanted it to be really cool like that! Oh and I won't judge til later but the sound of the drill sounded kinda odd too...

[fanboi hater]

The only thing that really bothered me was the drill animation I was expecting it to move into the guys and spin with blood going everywhere ... similar to the canned event in the first game

[ame22]

It's clearly obvious from the in-game footage that the game requires a lot polishing, and that doesn't only include the drilling animation and action effects of it, but also if you've realized none of the splicers have a voice,,,therefore i guess several elements would be added through the process of polishing in many essences

[1ikedamaster]

"But my wtf moment is what is up with the little sister's voice? Not only is it different it's downright annoying now...or is it just me?"

I noticed too. I hope that voice doesn't make it to the final build. I'd prefer the "old" little sister's voice, imo.

About the drill animation...I personally think it's a good idea, if you think about it. Although, a drill animation (a la Gears chainsaw)would be totally bad *ss it would hamper the gameplay especially in tense moments when you have splicers, other Big Daddy's and the dreaded Big Sister all over the place taking shots at you. Just saying.

Game looks good either way.

[sephy 9 2 5]

to pass proper judgement, but I think it look a lot more similar to the first game than say Gears 2 or Uncharted 2. Not a deal breaker though because the first game was one of the best this gen.

[squidyj]

It's hard to tell from the trailer but it looks like the graphics for characters are a fair bit better, can't wait to see some high res screenshots.

[RebornSpy]

because I really didn't think that I would like it. When I borrowed/stole it from a friend, though, I loved it. Amazing game. This game looks better in nearly every way to the first, so it's a must-buy for me. Assuming I can afford it with all the other awesome games coming out this year.

[MicroSony4Life]

Do you like fish sticks?

Do you like fish sticks in your mouth?

I guess that makes you a g@y fish.

[Highatus]

This is shaping up to be pretty stellar. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

Also, considering Bioshock was the spiritual successor to System Shock 2 we could have another great game like the two just mentioned!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Random food for thought...I'm confused about Bioshock getting a sequel, but whatever I just wanna play more. But, I REALLY hope that the story makes sense and isn't cheesy just to make a sequel. The promise of the first game was that the story was wicked good. How the hell does a big daddy use plasmids? and didn't tenenbaum die?

edit: at the dude below me...please shutup, if they made it PS3 and PC it would look better? Did you really just say that? If they made it JUST PC it would look better. If they made it PS3/PC they would spend 3 years trying to code them to match. That's like trying to put a viper motor in a Kia, the parts don't match and you gotta mod the hell out of it so it will work.

[GameGambits]

Bioshock still to date is one of the prettiest console games made. It'll have graphical updates here and there, but the jump will be the same as Gears 1 to Gears 2.

I mean if they made the game a PC and PS3 exclusive then they could do a bigger graphical jump, but that's just not going to happen. With that said I don't get how people expect to be WOWed by a HD video on your computer compared to what the game will look like on your big HDTV.

This is a big contender for GOTY in 2009, and the multiplayer 2K games implements will be what can set it to GOTY or keep it from reaching it.

[Marie]

You can see the A button for search on one of the splicers.

[poopsack]

congrats on the accomplishment.

[Marceles]

good eye

http://img165.imageshack.us...

[360 PIMP]

cant wait for bioshock 2 kind of scary tough

[Campy da Camper]

I'm also torn between the "it's a sequel so why change the look, feel" and wanting each new game I play to be upgraded in all aspects. As long as we can go to "new" areas of the city with "new" looking and acting splicers, then it's all good. If we are going to the same places with the same AI but perhaps some mild texturing upgrades and a new weapon or two then it's rental city. Overall, though, Bioshock kicked major butt and it will be a fun run-through. No mention of the multiplayer though? Has that been confirmed?

[James Vanderbeek]

i couldnt get into bio shock. the game was just ok to me. the graphics were decent at best and the story was ahhh ok... I played the ps3 version of the game.

[phosphor112]

Like System Shock 2. That was one of the greatest games of all time. I'm not asking for another System Shock, just a slight change in that direction, it would definitely make the game a lot more fun for everyone.

Can't wait though.

[mt]

but i don't see way too improvement in graphic .
i bet there will be too much improvement in the story .

[NateDPG]

Looks so lala, no match for the power of the PSTriple.

[Shadow Man]

Bioshock is in my top 5 games I love this generation.

[cmacdonald]

Done it already.

[RareNimbus]

I feel a bad feeling about this game. oh wait!!! first day buy for me when release.

[VMAN_01]

I still think the game would have done better as a prequel, watching the rapture slowly fall apart and descend into chaos.

[The_Firestarter]

Maybe 2K Games intends for that idea to be implemented into BioShock 3.

[jkhan]

The gameplay seems a bit faster than the previous game. There isn't a big graphical jump between the two sequels, but yeah it looks great. The water in the first was amazing. I am guessing it will be released in late August like the first one.

[schmeidenkamp]

but like others said above, more of a graphical jump couldnt hurt

[CRAIG667]

For me the most important thing certainly isnt the graphics,its the story,if they use exactly the same graphics as the first i couldnt care less,the narrative was the thing that sucked me in and is the reason bioshock is my most loved game ever.

would you kindly...

do justice to the story arc 2K!?

[KingKionic]

EPIC!!!! ive been waiting forever. the ending was great.

[Ichiryoka]

I cant believe people are actually trying to figure out which version was better graphically. Does it matter, this game has a great story and pretty good graphics but using the unreal engine, the game's not pushing the hardware to any limits. On topic Bioshock 2 looks great so far.

I'm just hoping that they stop trying to get both versions equal and push both consoles to what they excel in. That way "fanboys" would really see which version is superior. (not saying which, I'm sure you already know which one.) Until they stop making them "equal" then nothing can be compared because they are always going to slip up somewhere on either version whether its textures, framerates, or aliasing issues. who knows.

[DelbertGrady]

They spent a full year trying to get the PS3 version of the first one up to par with the 360 version. And failed. They had to lower the resolution, couldn't match the framerate and had to apply motion blur aka 'vaseline filter' because the PS3 can't do AA as good as the 360.

And it had a mandatory 5gb install. All thanks to the power of Blu-Ray I suppose?

Like with all multiplat games I will be enjoying the superior 360 version.

[jBat17]

the thing is there is a 200 MB patch released in november that fixed all those issues

face it, xbota, bioshock do look better on the ps3 just like oblivion, dirt, overlord, UT3, burnout paradise, devil may cry, etc

[TrevorPhillips]

this game is looking better then the first 1 cannot wait to get my hands on this baby.

[LarVanian]

Despite how short it was, it was bloody amazing.
This will definitely be the best multi-platform game this year and possibly the best overall.

[-MoOkS-]

I hope they made the graphics engine actually work on the ps3 this time around. Bioshock 1 was a mess, graphically, on the ps3 compared to the 360 version.

[Pootie Tang]

I don't think many PS3 only users realize how poor the port was graphically, The game looked amazing on 360 but when i played it on PS3 it looked bland. Just a lazy port. So I think everyone will be impressed with Bioshock 2

[aaronisbla]

That patch that came out for it fix most of the graphical hiccups the game had at release for the ps3. The first game was pretty good, but not this groundbreaking experience like some made it out to be, just my opinion though and it gets kinda stale and boring a lil more than half way thru

It was a rental for me, not because of no multiplayer, but because besides the fact that you can try to beat it on harder modes, there really was no reason to go thru it multiple times unless you are a trophy/achievement junkie

[ShabzS]

oof the ending was top notch... hate those little girls

[Sangria]

I was a bit skeptical when i heard we would play the first Big Daddy ever (why the first, anyway? Does that mean we will assist his story and conception?) but that video really turned me on.

I just wish there will be more than two weapons and that we will meet the hero of the first Bioshock (there is at least one Big Daddy we can't kill, the first time we see one, through the windows, he's walking around with his Little Sister). I know Bioshock 2 is not in the same time period as Bioshock, but it's just a wish.

[LTC]

framerate seems low when enemies are around. Definately 360 version.

[OmarJA]

It really sadden me that the xbots brag only about Multiplatform games & sales this year & to justify their purchase of the 360, never mind the game is no longer exclusive on teh outdated PC aka 360 & that's all that matter to me beside i don't care which version will be suprior since the game is using the unreal dated engine & the graphics looks meh...

[chidori666]

i prefer killzone 2......and this grapcks is outadated.

[Snatcher]

The gameplay is the deal. Graphics is just a bonus. So far, Bioshock 2 looks really fun to play.

I don't get why graphics is such a big deal? We play to have fun, not to get mindblowed by the AWESOME GRAPHICS -.-

I could not care less about graphics. I even play my Super Nintendo to this day. Because it is fun. I don't like what gaming has turned out to be. Yeah, the games are bigger, better and the graphics are good. But, these games just does not have the magic. Everything was better in 2D. Simple, more enjoyable, and the music rocked back then.

[MegaPowa]

You guys complain about graphics on these systems now? for the love of god find lives please for your own benefit

[Snatcher]

Are people ignoring the awesome gameplay we see here?

[mochi]

i can see A button icon after drill attack.

[jay2]

I didn't like that woman's voice, and like I said before about 2 mins of game play which really didn't tell us a lot.

[onomix]

But PS3 fanboys are graphics whores.

[criticalkare]

Amazing first Bioshock was awesome, and this will too

[Dannagar]

Too Awesome!

[UziSuicide]

Cool idea with the shattering glass and water, looks very much like Bioshock though rather than a progression. Not a bad thing, but yeah things have moved on.

As for the UE3 engine, sorry but while the most used it's an engine I'd like to see put out to pasture to be honest. Bioshock was about as good as the engine got.

[Bumpmapping]

Boringshock2

[UziSuicide]

To deviate too, wtf do people actually think Gears 1 & 2 look good? They look much of a muchness in comparison to UT3, same style, same treatment, same 2d sprites for effects. It doesn't look bad, but it's nothing super wonderful either.

It had dialogue on par with Haze, and Epic must hire the worst voice actors in all of gamings history.

It's fun yes, mindless fun. If it were multi platform it wouldn't rate half as high though (imo anyway).

[overseer]

Besides it being the funnest action title I played since Half Life 2, I thought the graphics were great, not unique in any way, but definitely great. But what that game really shined in, was pacing(especially the second one): It never slowed down, yet it never felt boring, which to me is a huge plus, being that most games bore me to death half way through(ahem, Bioshock)

[UziSuicide]

Guess it's a case of different strokes.

I got bored of the first one very quickly and never finished it, rented 2 and wasn't all that impressed either tbh. I guess having played a lot of Epics previous games (Unreal/UT series) it just felt pretty typical.

Cover system and roadie run were good though! But yeah, those two elements do not a game make.

Oh and imo HL2 and Ep2 were magnificent games (apart from HL2's ending), in a league of their own. Not even comparable in my opinion, great voice acting, story and crafting. So much depth and atmosphere.

[overseer]

Oh I won't argue against superiority of HL's depth, story and characters. But in terms of how fun it is to play the game, GOW is very comparable(IMO).

On the side note, I played through both of them in the coop mode, so perhaps that's the missing ingredient for you?

[overseer]

Am I the only person who thought first Bioshock was really boring? Never even finished it:(

[ShabzS]

the gunplay was weak... but the story was brilliant ... i mean the way it was told all through audio diaries... i only finished it to know what happened .. difinitely DIDNT enjoy the shooting aspect of the game

[Cheeky Gamer]

Judging by some of the reactions, it's clear that Bioshock 2 will be a case of 'marmite'; you either love it or hate it.

Just remember that we've only been shown a couple of minutes of footage, most of which was similar to the first one (apart from the obvious fact that you're a Big Daddy).

Have faith and I'm sure we'll all be rewarded.

[Droid Control]

It looks as good as the first, but the team has changed. Ken lavene is gone, and i don't like the idea of playing as a big daddy...

[BigFART]

This game will be an EPIC FAIL.

[oriol003]

cool

[Yomiro]

which version is this?... PC,PS3 or Xbox 360?

[ShabzS]

360

[MADPIRAHNA]

really cares that its UE running the game. This is one of the most amazing game expeiences available. Gameplay, story, and art direction are all top notch, and I loved the first one so this is a instant buy.

[aaronisbla]

to judge by this small gameplay vid. Really isn't too much of a graphical improvement from this vid though but i think we should wait for it to be seen on our tvs.

However, i don't believe some would be perfectly ok if it was of the same graphical quality as the first game. I think all gamers want the sequels for their games they play to be better than its predecessor, graphical and gameplay wise. To say other wise sounds like hogwash. This DOESN'T make someone a graphics whore, its just keeping it real with yourself.

[Rhezin]

escape from working at McDonald's today?

[alster23]

does anyone know what the lead platform is for this game?

[no-spin]

After the first Bioshock it will be hard to be impressed.
Hope they deliver the greatness of the first one

[OhMyGandhi]

jesus people.
graphically, the game is up there.
Fire looks fine. (I am guessing people want it to look like World At War's fire...)
water looks great.
but what sets this game apart from most others is the STORY.
The feeling of actually HAVING a place, instead of the cliche "aliens invading earth" story that games like Gears 2, Resistance 2, Halo 2 and others have.

[IaMs12]

Just because its a sequel it doenst have to have graphical improvements.. come on people he is right, the game is still one of the best looking games. the same thing happened to Gears2 just because it wasnt major graphical leap doesnt mean its 1.5, its a new game still. SO i guess KZ3 is really KZ2.5 since everyone says the graphics cant be beatened? Wake up and enjoy

[sak500]

I hope they dont pull SaintRow2 on this one and dumb down 360s version.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

you blocked me like a sissy so i'll post my response back to your PM you sent me

'sak500' this is your PM:
STFU.. Go finish your school then come to forum and comment. BTW its not "your a nerd" its you're a nerd idiot. If your mama had not begged me to take off the condom, you wouldn't have popped out of her after 9 months

My response to Sak500 the nerd:
again your a nerd for doing that, and i think your the one thats still in school since your being such a nerd, you couldn't bash me so you bash my mum, you OWNED your self idiot

you just proved that most if not all the 360 owners are little immature dumbasses like you

[Magic_The_Celt]

Anybody else GUTTED you play as a big daddy? seems like an awful idea..

[IaMs12]

AAwww im going to miss the wrench :(

[MerkinMax]

When he lunged at the splicer with the drill it totally reminded me of the energy sword in Halo 2 and 3. The upwards thrust resulting in a instant kill and flying enemy is always gratifying.

[BobbySaget]

I swear TO GOD you PS3 fanboys are still going to be claiming how AMAZING your console is even 300 years from now when we are all playing Miconytendo's new playbox 6400.
.............
"The Miconytendo Playbox 6400 MAY have a 5000ghz 10,0000thread processor, however it cannot harness the power of THE CELL so it fails, just look at KZ2"

Must you spam every single article with how "you think" your console is "better than" the Xbox 360? You surely must have realized that we DO NOT agree with you, and that if we did... we would simply pick up a PS3.

Some of us would like a healthy discussion on how Bioshock2 looks, and not a discussion of how you think you spent 600$'s wisely.

That said, i PERSONALLY am glad this game is multiplatform. A game this good shouldn't be limited to one console. If it were limited to one console it would surely become nothing more than an item used for debate. For example "PS3 PWNS because of MGS4, Uncharted1-2, KZ2, and Bioshock2". This would be unfortunate because it would be "taken" to a 'place' where the quality of games serves no importance, only 'how many SPU's they takes advantage of'.

ANYWAYS

I am excited for this game. I am very surprised to hear that some people didn't like it. The only thing that bothered me about it was a few of the random achievements. What i really hope for is an online portion. Maybe if we are lucky we could even get Cross-console online multiplayer (PS3 vs 360 vs PC). Then we could watch the PC player's all 'one shot' us to death!!! :P

Im in love with the whole... 50's thing.... they started doing in videogames. Bioshock1 and Fallout3, the 50's settings are incredibly fun.

[ShabzS]

haha.. nice

[someanimalsdance]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

- In Shadowrun the PC gamers didn't PWN the 360 gamers too bad. Cross-console would be sick. But i'm still reluctant about a online portion of the game.

[Droid Control]

Read my post. I'm worried.

[Brock Danger]

It's all about gameplay, story, and presentation. Sure, graphics are important, but graphics completing the vision of your art direction is the most important. And Bioshock nailed that.

Ever since Killzone has come out, all people will talk about is graphics. And sure, that game is pretty as hell, but there's no plot and the single player is a marathon of "been there, done that" battles with predictable ambushes from samey enemies(MP is probably the best I've played on consoles though, warzone is epic). Bioshock, on the other hand, gave players an awesome experience that was defined by phenomenal storytelling and epic atmosphere. Just hearing the Big Daddy walk is more inspired than anything that comes out of the threat of the Helghast (whoever the frak they are).

I don't remember people being graphics whores last go around when the xbox was a hands down winner. I remember back then, it was about gameplay. Hmmmm....

Feel free to hit the disagrees, or, what's probably a better name for that button, "I'm a massive douche nozzle"

[Immortal Kaim]

I agree, to only mention the 'apparently bland' graphics is to completely miss out on what made Bioshock great. The graphics serve the art direction nicely, the 50's decor is beautifully realised and the undersea environment is crammed and claustrophobic, what else could you want?

[Brock Danger]

Exactly.

[Winkle92]

Dand multiplayer is going to be great! Hopefully they will allow you to customize your big daddy in both appearance and loadout! Can't wait.

[Allowen]

graphics for this game does not matter, it is like am EPIC game such a Zelda ,for exemple !

The idea in Bioshock 2 I guess was to use the same engine, same kind of action and world since it made a HUGE sucess on the previous game.

Plus, if the Bioshock 2 have more or less the same graphic power of the B1 then the Xbox360 or an average gaming PC will run this amazing game without much problem.

[Allowen]

What made Bioshock a huge sucess was not the amazing graphics but the fantastic and well done story and the art direction .

Just go play a Wii'game called Metroid Prime 3 .... I got a PS3 with 20 games and in terms of art direction only my copy of Uncharted and Heavenly sword that more or less do what was done in MP3.

Metroid Prime 3 and Bioshock are on my top 5 best games I have played on this gen, the art direction is so amazingly beautiful.... comparing both games to my copy of KZ2 ..... MP3/Bioshock >>>>KZ2(art direction that is )

[jloman]

Holy crap this looks ridiculously good. I'm looking forward to the dual wielding more than anything. Ahhhh Creammmageee.

[OhMyGandhi]

we should bring that word back. : )