Xbox 360 vs. PS3 Face-Off: Round 13

Our groins suitably girded, we return once more to the great cross-platform console development debate with the latest in our ongoing face-off comparison coverage. As if you didn't know by now, the aim here is to supplement existing Eurogamer reviews with console-specific commentary, backed up with a range of 'assets' losslessly extracted from the hardware during our testing.

This is achieved with the now ubiquitous Digital Foundry TrueHD capture kit, the only equipment in the world capable of ruthlessly plundering the HDMI ports of the respective consoles at full 24-bit RGB precision. Literally every single piece of digital information pumped out by the hardware is ours - ours I tell you - and from there we can supply ultimate quality screenshots and comparison videos.

Round 13 includes:

Unreal Tournament 3
Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy
Top Spin 3
Iron Man
Battlefield: Bad Company

[Liar]

360 = 13
PS3 = 0

[KRUSSIDULL]

Its sick I only looked at Unreal Tournement 3 and Battlfield: Bad Company and the 360 versions is superior maybe they should release the PS3 version later becuse 360 have won every battle so far but PS3 has KZ2 so dont get to sad.

[shazam]

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your name is Liar?

[Krazy Ken Kutaragi]

Look at his avatar, Liar/Lair is the same thing. It was meant to be the best game of 2007 and ended up the worst.

[shazam]

Oh.

[gw4k]

You buy a PS3 for the Sony games, Blu-Ray and the small amount of exclusives.

The buy the 360 for better games, what seems to be more exclusives and better functionality.

Anyone that has both systems will tell you, the 360 versions of multiplat games are better.

Not to mention, MS will buy their gamers the games they want! To me, a gamer, that means a lot!

That is all there is to it.

Will this change in the future? Maybe....Who knows. I hope so!

[Drekken]

Burnout was better? DMC was better? COD was better? I am confused where people get their logic from.

Gamer side/open side this site has the same smell on both sides.

[Gam71]

Yes drekken,

All those was better?

Whats your point?

[TheMART]

@ Drekken

Yes COD4 is better on the 360, just check the close texture comparisons. PS3 = blurry

Burnout Paradise was made on the PS3 first and then to the 360. And still the 360 was on par with the PS3 version.

It is like this

360 first --> PS3 then PS3 version sucks
PS3 first --> 360 then the versions are on par

You try to mention some but failed... And 99% of all multiplatform games run better on the 360. That's just a fact and won't change.

[mabreu]

Is it true that the PS3 has a much higher software review average compared to the 360 and wii?

[Bangladesh]

No. The 360 has more quality games than the PS3 and Wii combined. The 360 also has more games with scores between 7-10, as there are total games in the ps3's entire game library. You can check these links if you want.

360
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

PS3 & Wii
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[supahbad]

cod4 is beter on the ps3 due to dedicated servers, blurry textures vs. p2p connections..hmm?

compare the good games, done by dedicated devs and you have even games. not iron man please

[Gaystation 3]

Where are all the Sony goons?

[Overr8ed]

We are too busy enjoying our games =).

[Jack T]

No idea where they are, it's not as if they have time to play games with all those mandatory installs.

juuken, "piss off" in advance of your inevitable trolling.

[solidjun5]

you must be getting a hard-on with every so-called "bad" Sony news that gets approved. Right now, at this moment, you're putting your chest across the computer monitor screaming "OH BILLLYYYYYY!!!!!"

@Jack T
Trolling?...well talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Is this like your 4th account.

[Ali_The_Brit]

where where all the xbots when MGS4 was getting 55+ 10/10s again and again

where are they when news like burnout on 360 is still waiting for an update wev had a month, works both ways pal.

[Jack The Lad]

it doesnt say xbox360 news on top of this page u r.e.t.a.r.d.s
*Xbox 360 vs. PS3 Face-Off: Round 13* means its 4 both console owners to read u n.0.0.b.s
trolls=
pp
pog
mart
blur111
jenzo
icewake
n00b -- [wotever he is called this week]
360man
jason360

eurogamer.net=MS n00blickers

[Kratos Spartan]

All the Sony goons are on here laughing at you xboys trying to find something to prove your console is superior

[InMyOpinion]

"All the Sony goons are on here laughing at you xboys trying to find something to prove your console is superior"

Well if the games don't prove it I'm not sure what does...

[juuken]

Hey, Gaystation...go back to f*cking your 360 and leave the rest of us alone.

Stupid f*cking troll.

Wow...and another troll account? Jack T? Man, you bots are so desperate to prove the 360 is the best that you have to resort to using troll accounts.

How sad your lives must be.

Hey, Gaymer 71, I'm not a troll. I've been on this account ever since I got it. I don't need to make twenty different accounts to make my opinions known.

Now go f*ck your 360 dear. You've been doing a fine job so far. :D

[Gam71]

Seeing a bit of yourself in there juuken?

[Kratos Spartan]

Hey the games don't prove it. I don't know what does either.

[xg-ei8ht]

Eurogamer, you fail hard.

Unreal3 uses the exact same texture assets on both systems,(i know people who work with the devs)

As you state the versions of bad company, have the same texture details, but what your messed up eyes can't tell is that, the 360 is darker all the time, making it appear to have more detail(idiots)with different colours.

I know Eurogamer, is actually run by a silent ms corp, i'll say no more.

YOU FAIL HARD EACH AND EVERY TIME.

[shazam]

that pretty much all multiplat games except for a few ea sports titles use the same textures on both consoles. It simply saves time and money because you dont have to make different textures and shaders for both versions.

[Martini]

Until you invest in the hi-tech equipment that they are using and make a worthy comparisons of your own it's you who fails.

XBOX 360 - 13
PS3 - 0

[cliffbo]

these chickens will squawk all the way to the slaughterhouse... enjoy it, because come Xmas you'll be on Sony's plate

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

I knew that the PS3 would take a year,maybe 18 months to get into its stride so developers knew how to utilise the hardware effectively.

Thus i knew that the multi plat titles up until this point my be slightly superior on the 360.

Why is it that after a decent 'bedding in period' the multi plat titles are more often than not still coming out better on the 360.

When is the CELL going to shine on these multi plats.

Is it bad/lazy developers (every developer in the world it seems) or is the PS3 really not as powerful as hyped?

[callahan09]

OK, I just watched that video, and I really and truly don't see where the 360 version is better? It looks the same to me. If there's a difference it's so miniscule that who the hell really gives a damn which version looks better? It's just stupid semantics. And remember, the game's been out for more than half a year on the PS3, but it's just come out for the 360.

Edit: All uses of the word "it" in this post are in reference to Unreal Tournament III.

[cyclindk]

It's simple, ps3 multies were worse than 360, now they are about even, then they will surpass...time will tell.

[Gam71]

Yes it will.

And if devs keep getting more out of the 360 then time will definitely tell.

It's foolish to think that devs are only getting more out of the ps3 yet are stagnant on the 360

[Ju]

I doubt that multi titles will ever be better on the PS3 (I don't see a big deal of difference here, either left or right, but it evens out eventually). It would require significantly coding towards the CELL to run better on the PS3 and I would guess, a generic engine has some common parts you can "adjust" here or there, but you'd need to write much more then that to really take advantage of the CELL. I have no idea how vertex reduction would work transparently, or "deferred" rendering - if its not build into the back end (OpenGL), e.g.
Crowd dynamics is another thing where the CELL could shine, but yet needs complete different code then on a regular CPU. But who knows, maybe the coming exclusives will put so much pressure onto the third party studios, and they'll put some more effort into their PS3 engines.

[OmegaKulu]

It's simple, when you make a multi-plat game, none of the codes transfer all that well between the two(with very few exceptions) so normally one side will be pushed aside, ps3 just not as high of a priority due to the # of them out there.

[supahbad]

why would a multiplat game use cell? WHY? they want the games to be the SAME! are you kidding me?

[cyclindk]

The Final Fantasy game that just went multi will undoubtedly be superior on PS3 for one, two, read reviews (even if you don't trust them entirely) they have all been gradually moving from saying 360 multies were better, to they are dead even, to some PS3 versions being better, this will only continue. You hardly ever hear any devs saying, "we're gonna get a lot more out of the 360 in future," it's only the PS3 that they say that.

[pp]

There probably hiding in a corner crying

[Dacapn]

Why do they always pick the games no one buys for these comparisons?

[TheMART]

You mean like COD4 also back then?

These are just some of the games that released lately (360 version of UT3 at least)

[Dacapn]

Well you named one out of the 30+ titles they've compared.

[4cough]

There is a reason why my ps3 gathers dust and the reason is games are inferior on it.

[Overr8ed]

dude from the looks of it you can afford any money for a brain let alone a Ps3 so stick up your A$$ and rotate 360.

[GameDev]

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS A TROLL ON THE PS3, IT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE AN ASSHOLE THAT SPENT $600 ON A DEVICE YOU DONT USE.

HAVE A NICE DAY

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

Teh power of the CELL.

Surely after 18 months all my games are 120fps,1080p and 4D.............

Still PS3 owners have got 1 AAA game coming out soon - Fallout 3 this October - (superior 360 version also available at this time).

[Overr8ed]

oh rly. The only AAA title you have is Gears. We have LBP KZ2 Resistance and more. (am not counting 3rd party games)

[juuken]

Yes, the 360 is quite superior indeed.

Ya know, it's quite sad when a company has to stoop SO LOW as to buy third party exclusives because they can't even afford their own first party exclusives.

Keep laughing bots...keep laughing. There will come a time when all smirks will be wiped off those faces.

[Gam71]

Wow someones buying games for me.
Maybe if £ony did that you would have more than 1 game to play.

Unless you're still playing uncharted for the umpteenth time?

Anyway

SONY DEFENCE FORCE

ACTIVATE!!!

We all know that if the article said the opposite then you trolls would be claiming it's gospel.

[juuken]

MICROSOFT C*CKSUCKING FORCE ACTIVATE!!1111

Lmao...you guys are too funny. I pity the fools who rely on third party games to justify which console has the best graphics.

[solidjun5]

1 game huh?
are you blind or just a stupid indivdual so identified with one console. man the 360 must've done a lot for you like pay your bills or satisfy your basic needs. Truly, you're a low-life man. Grow up...err...ACTIVATE!!!

[InMyOpinion]

Who stole juunk-in-the-trunkens cookie jar? It's not funny anymore. Please return it.

[juuken]

Ho' sh*t...is that you in that avatar Jenzo? Daaaaaaaamn, you must have been one ugly mother f*ckin' baby. No wonder your parents dropped you on yo' damn head and ran.

No...you googled c*cksucking muppet and you came up with that. That picture described xbot hypocritical sh*tfaces such as yourself.

Your insults=WEAKSAUCE! :)

[InMyOpinion]

I just googled 'juuken + xbox 360 vs PS3 face-off' and that was the first image that popped up.

[Gam71]

Hey soldjun

Its the ps3 fails that throw their lot it with a brand and no-one else.

Do you think you £ony actually care about you?
Or maybe you're deluded enough to believe you had a hand in developing the console?

Yes I have a 360 and that means I'm not limited to a company or brand.
It means i'm more of a gamer.

I also have a wii and ds.
even my mobile has ngage
not to forget my pc gaming rig.

In fact you don't want to compare computers and consoles i owned or still have.

(the only one that broke and still doesn't work has sony on it)

[GameDev]

JEDI + WOLVERINE = 12 YR OLD XBUTT

GAMEDEV MAKES A POINT TO IGNORE CHILDREN ON THIS SITE FROM NOW ON.

[Fishy Fingers]

sigh... these types of threads offer nothing. Just imaginary self assurance to the fanboys who ironically shouldn't feel the need to constantly defend their system if it really is as good as they claim it to be.

[La Chance]

people who have both consoles (I only own a 360) can find them useful or those who havnt upgraded yet.

Moreover PS3 and 360 are in competition so its absolutely naturel to have comparisions like these.

I know youre PS3 biaised maybe thats why youre saying that.

[Gam71]

Well put lachance

[cliffbo]

lol... enjoy it while it lasts fellas.

i wonder if the version of killzone2, RFOM2, Motorstorm2, LBP, SOCOM, MAG will be as good as the PS3 version...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Good lord, people!

The games look the freakin' SAME! Just because it doesn't look BETTER on the PS3, you assume it looks worse.

Get over yourselves and realize that these are the same games.

UTIII is better on PS3 anyway. MOD support, anyone?

[MvmntInGrn]

Eurogamer is a horrible site. They do this because it gets alot of hits, they don't care about one vs the other.

They look the same, color differences just like the rest of 2008s multiplats. The ones praising 360 here obviously feel a need to back their console for some sad reason.

MULTIPLATS NO LONGER LOOK BETTER ON 360! They look identical now.

All multiplats use the same textures and at most handle AA differently. (Unless its UE3, since ti just doesn't use AA at all.) Its not even a matter of PS3 being lighter anymore. If you say Bad Company looks better on 360 then The Bourne Conspiracy looks better on PS3 (darker versions) thats literally it, color differences.

Everyone comes in here saying "360 won" when you provide no reason as to WHY you thought it looked better. Know why? They look the same.

[Siqness]

they dont look the same...all the ps3 versions look washed out or like they have been bleached or something...look again...and the 360 versions have much more textures(like the ground) and better colours...but other thn tht its the same

[man0fsteel]

its called the lack of using RGB FULL on the PS3. Sites that use comparisons between the two systems refuse to use it since "its not a default setting".
I think that is a load of crap -

Its put up or shut up time. give me a comparison with the highest possible settings on both systems (assuming if there is any more you can do with the 360)and then we'll talk

[Siqness]

man its here everyone can see it..dont give me tht bullshit about settings...does increasing the rgb bring better textures? i didnt think so...the ps3 got owned..DEal with it

[thewhoopimen]

Are you a troll or just full of sh1t? I took a look at Bourne conspiracy and it looks like the 360 pics are washed out. What it looks to me like is a difference of some brightness and contrast settings. Not full blown differences.

[Martini]

Eurogamer has the full RGB turned on on both the PS3 and 360 so you now have one less excuse - "As per usual, each game's video output is captured digitally and losslessly from the HDMI ports of the Xbox 360 Elite and PlayStation 3 respectively, both set to full range RGB output, with every last byte of video information being ingested at full 24-bit precision by a Digital Foundry HD capture station. " http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[man0fsteel]

Well you got me on that one ... i can admit when i'm wrong.

The only thing though, if you notice... These comparisons, that you are on the link that you posted, are not as lopsided as the current one is. There are instances where the PS3 even come out on top. Do you even care to ask yourself, "maybe the development is of lackluster quality" compared to the 360 for a lot of multiplat games. If its very WELL KNOWN that games do not even come close to using the maximum potential of processing power that the PS3 is even capable of. And take this into account...I am in no way am I trying to downplay the 360's build. We know what both systems are capable of, and they both can look identical to one another in the least. That is basically what my complaint is

[Skynetone]

but according to sony its not more difficult then the ps2

the simple fact is good developers get good results

[InMyOpinion]

True, Bad Company almost looks identical except for the ground textures.

[belal]

you can have those games ;) iron man sucks, bourn conspiracy who cares, battlefield nah i don like that kind of game sry only one game i like there is UT3 with mods :) sry you lose.

[Gam71]

You mean even though they are crap games you got the crappier version of them and we lose?

More like you fail.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Ahahahaha..... That was funny, it was like he walked into a glass door not knowing it was there.

[Dacapn]

Sh1t still smells bad even if you stick a flower in it.

[TheColbertinator]

Console comparisons again?You Sony and Microsoft trolls nurture yourselves off the smallest victories.I can't wait until the fall so the exclusives fight for dominance.Thats when things get interesting

[lagoonalight]

Okay everyone has been over this before.... until the PS3 is lead platform expect these results every FU**ING TIME.

Unreal 3 had development time and the unreal engine is not made specifically for the PS3.

Naughty Dog's next game will put the 360 to shame.

Just had to get that in there.

The one obvious error I find in these comps is that GTA4 does indeed look better than the 360 version in many pics and other videos.

I don't care about the res drop, the 360 has that nasty dithering that makes it look like **** half the time.

If it were developed for the PS3 it would be a titan comparable to midhigh PC's.

[MvmntInGrn]

They looks he same. DICEs engine runs the same on both consoles. UE3, on the other hand, is more difficult but as of yet I haven't seen a 2008 multiplat that is better on 360, they have been equal all year and these are no different.

Still waiting for someone to tell me how one is superior without saying "Darker" or "Lighter"

[pp]

The truth hurts maybe you ps3 droids should go back in to your dark corner and keep praying that this is just a dream

[kingboy]

Go get a summer job kid and quite trolling on here

[solidjun5]

did you come up with that one yourself? Or were you a fly on the wall, in a secret meeting like you claim you were yesterday?
No? then you're just like yesterday...pulling things out your @$$.

[Gam71]

Hey kingboy, That's a bit rich.

Haven't you seen ps3 fails trolling on here in their droves?

No?

That must mean you're one.

[solidjun5]

Holy Strawberries Batman, it's seems like Gam71 is in a Jam. Same stupid crap he spews everyday because the PS3 shot his dog or something.

Batman: well Gam71...ACTIVATE!!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I think you came in the wrong door, you might be more comfortable <---that way, since you don't like fanboys. Or are you just a Droid in disguise?

[Gam71]

I must be getting under your skin soldjun as you seem to be following me.

I see i have something to explain to you.

You haven't heard of the sony defence force?
Of course you have. I bet you have an account on their website.

Now why would a machine thats so powerful and amazing need a defence force?

Surely the games would speak for the machin...oh sorry.

As for the activate joke, I actually seen a ps3 fail use that for M$.

Can you believe that. Didn't the fool realise that by mocking it he's actually mocking the sony defence force which exist.

It actually exist.

I think the fail had seen someone use the sdf and thoought they was taking the piss so decided to twist its meaning not knowing the other fail was being serious.

You lot cant even keep up with your own insults.

Hence another fail

[solidjun5]

Yea I heard of it. I'm not part it. I don't believe in blind loyality like you do. Also, if you did a little research, you would see that SDF is owned by the same guy that does wii360, which is the same yet opposite of SDF. guess you didn't know that. Oh wait, you did but chose not to.

"Surely the games would speak for the machin...oh sorry"
wait, so you haven't played uncharted or MGS4, games that actually exploit the hardware like gears exploit the 360 hardware. No you haven't. you've been busy up microsoft anus to see.

"As for the activate joke, I actually seen a ps3 fail use that for M$."
Where have you ever seen a hardware perfect. When products are manufactured you might have a batch out of a multiple of products that might be defective. So just because you saw 1 Ps3 fail, you think it's prevalent. Flawed argument just like jokes and insults...FLAWED. The 360 has been known for hardware reliability. In some instances, when your system dies (I'm sure it has :=]), you can always scream into it and say "ACTIVATE". Try it to see if it works.

As for ACTIVE, I'm showing how ludicrous your statements are by saying the same thing. I don't care where it originates idiot.

Now go back under your bridge where you belong and think about what you did. Learn a new word instead of ACTIVATE.

[kingboy]

wow!that`s a first, being proud over 3rd party crappy games..lol

[Siqness]

its look the same...but the 360 versions kinda had better lighting

[xg-ei8ht]

Siqness, you really are full of it, and you know nothing of which you speak.

Brighten up your 360 screen while playing, guess what, the textures won't look as detailed. Darken the ps3 screen and guess what, the textures look better then the 360 version.

As if by magic!!

[Siqness]

so i guess i should just listen to you instead of professionals tht test these things and know more thn you....ur full of bulls***..everything u said came ryt out of ur ass!!

[GameDev]

did someone just say "professionals"??

oh dear gotta love 12 yr old fanboys.

[LiquifiedArt]

A simple look at First party development tells teh tale for which system has superior hardware.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Yeah because Gears, Mass Effect, and Left 4 Dead are some real ugly games.... (((rolls eyes)))

[TheMART]

Ah yes... That's why the PS3 after 1.5 year has only one game exclusive on or over a 9 out of 10 average.

I say bull. The only fact you like 1st party is because there is no version of it on the other system, so you couldn't compare it. If MGS4 was done on the 360 you would get the same results:

360 version sharper, less blurry, more colourfull.

[Dacapn]

Left 4 Dead and Gears are cute, but that slideshow you call Mass Effect is just shameful.

[cliffbo]

i am sooooo looking forward to this Xmas. :)

[InMyOpinion]

2 years and not much has changed. Maybe all that hype Sony fed you wasn't true after all? I wouldn't be happy either if I paid $600 just to play inferior games. I'm glad I didn't lol!

[Figboy]

people REALLY need to stop comparing mediocre 3rd party games to prove a system's "superiority."

we all know by now that exclusive titles push the consoles hard, while multi-plats generally settle for the status quo and bare minimum (with a few exceptions).

i mean, Iron Man? really?? that game SUCKED no matter WHAT system you played it on (which is a shame, since the movie rocked), due to poor controls and uninspired gameplay.

[man0fsteel]

and to add...
Which game received the Best Graphics of E3 award from most sites. Does anyone care to enlighten us?

We all know that with proper game development what the PS3 can do.

[Kaneda]

that is all 360 fanboys got left to do.. summer school is out. No games to play til GoW 2 comes out. What do you expect them to do. :P comparisons and bashing console that their parents can't afford to buy it for them.

[Bangladesh]

From what I'm seeing people who own 360's have more quality games to play than PS3 and Wii owners combined.

360
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

PS3 and Wii
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

I really don't understand why PS3 owners think attacking other console owners is going to make the ps3 a better game machine. If you folks want to put blame on anyone, put it on Sony. 360, Wii, and PC gamers didn't put a video decoder(Cell) in the ps3, that requires drawn out and overly difficult dev cycles. And other gamers didn't make Sony attempt to monopolize the physical media market with their over-priced in-house movie format either. If you whiny folks want to fix the situation that you are in pettition Sony, who knows considering that we are all gamers, we might help you.
http://eetimes.eu/showArtic...
http://www.videsignline.com...
http://www.afterdawn.com/ne...

[MUNKYPOO]

figboy you are right! but microsoft relies to much on the third party developers to make games for them. so its hard for them to compare exclusvie on exclusive. thats why 360 fanboys always try to say the 360 has better multi plat games cause thats all they have. but they know we have better exclusives

[Bangladesh]

How exactly are people supposed to compare exclusives?lol Game engines, game assets, and development techniques vary wildly from one game to another. It would be like comparing a Van Gogh to a Picasso, then trying to argue which is the best.

Multi-platform titles are the only way to measure how well 2 different machines handle the exact same game structure.

And "With the exception of UTIII", so you sony fanatics think that you can pick and choose which multiplats count and which ones don't? No matter which version is superior, they ALL count.

[juuken]

Lol @ Eurogaymer. They have to take a couple of sh*tty looking games (except for Unreal Tournament) and compare them just for the sake of flamebait.

Pathetic.

And for the record, the PS3 versions of those games are better than the 360. The 360's graphics look a bit too pale and slightly washed out. The PS3's version has more detail and it's more colorful.

[InMyOpinion]

"And for the record, the PS3 versions of those games are better than the 360. The 360's graphics look a bit too pale and slightly washed out. The PS3's version has more detail and it's more colorful."

The 360 version is to the left. You seem to have missed that...

[juuken]

No sh*t Sherlock. Like I couldn't see thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

The fact is that those games (except Unreal Tournament) are crappy looking as hell and they probably play like sh*t as well. If 360 fanatics have to stoop this low to actually compare horrible games for the sake of graphics...then something is obviously wrong with them.

You seem to be on a roll Jenzo. How did you get so many bubbles? No, wait, hold on....I think I know. The trolls, and the 360 muppet crew bubbled you up.

Back to the c*ck sucking crew you go.

Dude...what did I say about hiding those baby pictures?

Of course I'm obsessed with c*cks. You know why? Because 360 muppets like to suck one every day whenever they're bashing the PS3. Aaaaand, those obese jokes are getting old Jenzo. Seriously, you don't even know me and yet you're assuming I'm fat? Boy, I'm too good for a ugly ass baby like you.

You're just mad that you can't handle me. :)

Not offended by your obese comments and not giving a damn what you think.

[InMyOpinion]

You seem pretty obsessed with c*cks. Must be tough being that obese and not getting any. Maybe you should try dating a feeder.

[u got owned]

@ Jenzo

"You seem pretty obsessed with c*cks. Must be tough being that obese and not getting any. Maybe you should try dating a feeder."

Ouch can believe you went there. lololollololol.

Guys you need to behave. Can we all just be friends?

@ disagree

Ok you disagree with me, because you think we should not behave or you just don't want new friends?

[PimpHandHappy]

but i dont comment and things this website says!

They gave MGS4 a 8/10! Enough said

MS viral campain isnt just talk! They also made a couple web sites! This is one of them!

[etownone]

so many excuses from ps3 owners... why?

first it was the excuse, oh but the 360 has been out longer, thats why the dev's are more familiar and know how to develop better on it (even though the dev's had the ps3kit 14 months before the launch of ps3..)

now I hear it's because the ps3 is not the lead platform...

c'mon now people, because of so much hype of the powerful ps3 with the "power of the cell" and blu-ray, even I thought ps3 games would be blowing xbox 360 out the water. But the simple fact is, it's too exotic, difficult, and much more expensive to develop for the ps3.

using the same excuse PS3 owners constantly use, how come the original Xbox that was:
(a) released one year after ps2
(b) was never the lead platform

how come the ports from PS2 to Xbox were ALWAYS far superior on Xbox?

simple... Xbox was superior from a technical standpoint and thus proven easily on EVERY port from the PS2.

[Kaneda]

Give me 1 360 title looks better than Uncharted! That game came out the 1st year. Looks better than any 360 games.. on it's 3rd year..

[Bangladesh]

Here are 3 games that look as good or better than MGS4 and Uncharted.

The two games that you mentioned do have good graphics. At the same time thinking that the graphics of those games is ony possible on ps3 shows your ignorance of the hardware in both machines.

Note- The Splinter Cell picture was taken from my 51' HD projector, hence the movie screen look.

[etownone]

another Sony owner retaliating with Uncharted.

This game looks great. so does GTA4, COD4, and Bioshock.

but as far as best graphics?? let's see what IGN said about it:

Graphics 9.0
There's no doubt the game looks great and that the use of in-game assets for the movies is seamless transition, but there's still a fair amount of screen tearing and texture pop in.

But if you want to put it up against an Xbox exclusive, IGN on Gears of War: (which by the way won many GOTY and best graphics awards)
Graphics 10.0
The most beautiful game on the Xbox 360. Amazing attention to detail and vibrant, diverse environments make for a feast for the eyes, even on a standard-definition set.

So please, Uncharted is NOT the best looking game to game out, (didn't win any awards for best graphics for consoles in 07, those would go to COD4 and Bioshcok) ....no matter how much you say it or believe it simply isn't true.
Also, FYI it is not a AAA game... being that it is rated somewhere in the 80's on metacritic.com and only sold about 1.5 million makes it a good game, but still average when compared to true AAA games like Halo 3 and Gears of War that sell almost 15million in combined sales and both have a metacritic score of 94.

[Kaneda]

hmmm....

[GameDev]

BOTH LOOKED THE SAME

the only ones talking smack here are xbox owners who have been butthurt for the last 3 months.

NOTHING MORE.

[GMR_PR]

Once again 360 proves to be the best console. At least PS3 games now look a little better.

[Playstation Man]

For exclusives 360 gets its face rubbed in the dirt.

[GMR_PR]

WOW i thought by now games will be looking better on the powerful PS3 like all the fans said, i guess they were wrong. lol.

@ bellow

lololol, that was a good joke... lol

[Xheratuul]

only popular multiplat games look better on PS3 like COD4, Oblivion, burnout, SC4, and etc

[TheMART]

You couldn't be more wrong

COD4 texture comparison gives the edge to the 360 version.
Oblivion wasn't hard with one hear extra devtime. Take games with the same releasedate and equally time spend on to make.
Burnout Paradise, PS3 to 360 port and look equal. Games with 360 to PS3 look sh!tty.

SC4 look about equal, but PS3 has the partly installation. Wait for the fall update when the 360 owner has the choice, not forced, to install even the whole game on HDD.

[Xheratuul]

Most ps3 exclusives still look better than 360 games

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Any currently?

[sajj316]

"This is achieved with the now ubiquitous Digital Foundry TrueHD capture kit, the only equipment in the world capable of ruthlessly plundering the HDMI ports of the respective consoles at full 24-bit RGB precision. Literally every single piece of digital information pumped out by the hardware is ours - ours I tell you - and from there we can supply ultimate quality screenshots and comparison videos."

Does this mean PS3 settings are at optimal? I would like Eurogamer to clarify this.

I'm tired of these comparisons. A platform that is lead has its benefits. Third party titles are NOT optimizing the platform's strengths. Even multiplatform engines (that utilize each system's potential) are still ways off. These comparisons will neutralize soon and will no longer be relevant. Here is the rule of thumb for now ... in all its simplicity.

Great Developer + Multiplatform = Equal versions (ie COD4)
Good Developer + Multiplatform = Slightly better LEAD version (ie Battlefield: Bad Company)
Mediocre Developer + Multiplatform = Better LEAD version (ie IRONMAN)
Bad Developer + Multiplatform = Amazingly Better Lead version (ie Top Spin 3)

For those wondering about Top Spin development ... not the best portfolio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[SL1M DADDY]

I have BF and Unreal III for the PS3 and they both play fast and near flawless. The differences between the 360 version and the PS3 version are so minute now that they make no difference to us gamers. Seriously, they just need to stop with the silly comparisons. They were always flame bait for fanboys but now they are flame bait for delusional fanboys with little in their lives to take away from this stuff other than a few silly slams on a console other than the one of their choosing...

[PenisaurisDix]

Teh power of the C3LL ?

How you play B3YOND when you keep playing B3HIND the 360.

Sony Defense Force is suffering from exhaustion -- too many sub-par cross platform releases and the whole 2.4 update fiasco made them work overtime for weeks !

[Xheratuul]

you are still being outsold worldwide, Mujahid slave

[TheMART]

Dudes don't make a fight over it, its just simple:

Cell+RSX ain't optimal for gaming. Playing BluRay maybe, but multiplatform it is always having more blurry endresults and washed out colours. It was 1.5 years ago, it is now.

The 360 CPU&GPU and totall internal structure makes the better gaming device. Its just like that. Multiple comparisons have proven that.

[sajj316]

"Cell+RSX ain't optimal for gaming"

Say hello to MGS4 and Uncharted

I think you're statement should be "Cell+RSX ain't optimal for porting" ... but then again you are who you are

[TheMART]

Hello MGS4 and Uncharted.

You both would also look sharper, less blurry, and more colourfull on the 360.

I welcome at least one of you, being the game from the 3rd party developer.

Even squeezing out a good result with lots of efforts doesn't mean it would be the best hardware and most optimal mix/architecture for gaming. And thats what I stated. The facts prove that I am right. Go check out all comparisons 99% win for the 360. 1.5 year ago, at this time and in 1.5 years from now.

[sajj316]

I wasn't aware that MGS4 and Uncharted were blurry. Both looked gorgeous and sharp on my HDTV. I think you should at least try it out instead of looking at screenshots or gametrailer videos.

"Even squeezing out a good result with lots of efforts doesn't mean it would be the best hardware and most optimal mix/architecture for gaming".

Your mixing most optimal with most common. Is it really a surprise that its easier to develop on the 360? Wouldn't the 360 by default be the best hardware to develop on considering the tools and PC like development environment?

[tudors]

PS3 had to have a hardrive as standard because the Bluray obviously slows it down, more space yes, HD movies yes, slow read speeds yes, in the future when BD drive speeds increase this will not be a problem but for now at least long installs are here to stay for the PS3, the textures IMO will usually always be better on the Xbox-360 due to the GPU, but then again COD4 apparently is sharper on the PS3, I doubt very much that games on the PS3 or the Xbox-360 are going to make a massive leap from what they are now, engines will improve but based on Crysis on the very best gaming RIG this will not be achieved on the current gen of consoles.

I know there are some here who thinks KZ2 looks better than Crysis but the look so far is limited, realistic yes, limited grey surrounds yes.

I should have a PS3 soon hopefully but I am not under any illusions that after having a Xbox-360 since launch the PS3 is going to blow me away like some would like to believe.

[Ju]

No, maybe not. But maybe you'll give MGS4 a go and bump it to 1080p. Maybe it'll leave a bit of an impression.

[djroberts]

These vs. articles are very poorly organized.

[AngryTypingGuy]

The 360 is like the Undertaker at WrestleMania...unbeatable! 13-0, not too shabby!

[GiantEnemyCrab]

haha I LOL'd at that comment and agree. :)

The peoples champ!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!

[The Preacher]

Well, I guess to each their own, if you like the PS3 fine.

If you like 360 fine.

There are no clear winner, PS3 wins and loses just as the 360.

I don't always agreed with theMART but he does have a point.

Peace

[happyface]

I used to like eurogamer a lot but after these bias comparisons I dont like them anymore

I think ps3 will start winning the comparisons in the future when devs figure out CELL.

Until then, not going to support eurogamer with hits until Sony starts winning comparisons

[TheMART]

Its not only Eurogamer.

Its every unbiased videoreview around. I've heard 1.5 years ago that the PS3 would take the lead in multiplatform games and now 1.5 years later it still doesn't.

How much time does the mighty console need to get there?

It won't happen. Cell+RSX gives more blurry graphics, less textures and washed out colours then the 360 hardware. Sony used the PS3 to win the Videoformat war, to get BluRay into the houses. Cell is optimal for streaming video.

I bet in 1.5 years from now we'll still have the same discussion and we'll still see that the 360 has more sharper footage, better textures, better colours, shadows, higher framerate etc etc

[power of Green]

More powerful the 360 is...

Spoken Yoda has...

[sajj316]

Not powerful enough to stop Anakin from going to the Darkside! Even Anakin loves the power of PS3 ;)

[AngryTypingGuy]

Soul Calibur jokes, AWESOME!

Not really.

[n00bzRtehgey]

EuroGAYmer sucks. Their sh1t pics never load for me. PS3's crap graphics probably broke their website.

WHY MUST PS3 SUCK SO BAD???

[xg-ei8ht]

Mart the xboxfanatic who knows nothing.

Obviously you've never use a ps3.

Fact, 360 does not have as high quality shadows as ps3 in grid, but uses higher aa. and only uses 45% of cell, but uses the 3 ppu's in 360 @ 85%.

You speak of the cell processor like you know anything. You don't.

360 has 3 ppu's. general purpose processors.
PS3 has 1 ppu. " "

PS3 has 8spu's, 1 for redundancy, 1 for os

useable 6 spu Very fast processors, faster then anything 360 has to offer. that is a fact.

Most early multiplats only use ppe of ps3, that's the reason for laggy framerate, but some multiplats now(not all) use some of the spu's) COD4,GRID(not alot though)

Uncharted spu usage is 1/3 - 1/2 of all spu's. Roughly 30-35%

As you can see, Uncharted an exclusive, by a world renowned developer only used a small amount of spu and look what the game looked like, if you knock uncharted, your an idiot.

Gears 2, uses all 3 ppu's maxed. And if you think gears is so great, ask epic why can't they do aa on everything. selective aa is used.

So with compression, uncharted could be played on 360, but would look worse, and would take more cpu power to achieve it.

[TheMART]

Right. So you know all as I see here.

Give me the links for:

"and only uses 45% of cell"

and

"the 3 ppu's in 360 @ 85%"

You just made that up.

Fact is the 3 cores of the 360 have 2 threads each. The 6 remaining SPU's of the PS3 only have one. Plus, actually an SPU effectively isn't a real core. They all can do their work at the same time, but need a different compiler and there is only one main core/die.

Those Cell 'facts' are paper specs. I am saying again: not optimal for gaming. Period. The Cell is good to calculate how far Mars is from Planet earth.

All multiplatform games prove its not optimal for gaming. Period. THat is prove, those are facts.

Not your own made up stuff:

"Gears 2, uses all 3 ppu's maxed"

It might use 3 cores, that doesn't mean it uses them all constantly to the max, and not optimalized.

Again, links to all your statements.

Mine is: 99% of all multiplatform games run best on the 360 and will do so the coming years. Period.

@ xg-ei8ht

how sad you didn't reply here and my bubbles are all used. Luckely I could edit this one

"Mart u need to stop the cuetip when there is resistance."

I am asking you to give the links to your bold statements. You cannot because you make them up. Thanks for proving that.

"So your saying there is a big diff between multiplats on both systems now?"

Yes. All multiplats look better on the 360. Not said by me. Proven by comparisons.

"All games are built on standard pc code, ports from 360 to ps3 don't translate well because of this. "

Right. And why do PS3 to 360 ports do work and look equal?

"But eurogamer tears down anything ps3 wise. and you've got to wonder why."

Again its not only Eurogamer. Its every video comparison from unbiased sources around.

"For you to say that the 360 will always have the upper hand multiplat wise is silly. They are already on par."

Well no. THey're not. GTAIV: PS3 version 640p, 360 version 720p. And the texture popin isn't on the PS3 because of a forced partly installation. THe 360 version will be able to chose for full installation and then certainly has the upperhand on resolution.

COD4 textures look blurry on the PS3. Thats always the problem. Less sharp, more blurry. It has something to do with the GPU probably.

[Ri0tSquad]

I didn't notice any "sharper textures" on the 360 version at all. The ground textures looked a little better but they still look bad (blurry on both versions). Your not going to see a difference unless you literally stopping and nitpicking your way to find one.

[etownone]

damn...

TheMart (facts) pwned xg-ei8ht (fiction)

[tudors]

there is no proof with your comment, different developers will use different amounts of the CPU based on many factors, for all you know Uncharted could be tailor made for the Xbox-360.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Both my ps3 and my 360 are hooked up via HDMI, so I know thats not the problem. It was even worst though, when I had the component cable hooked up on my 360 before i got an hdmi cord for it. Changing cords fixed the problem dramatically, but not indefinitely. As for better textures on multiplats on the 360, that was so 2007.

The problems that existed was only on a handful of games. And it wasnt because the ps3 couldnt handle the software, it was because devs were still figuring out the ps3s superior hardware. Noone can deny that the ps3 is stronger, almost every dev out there talks about hows strong the ps3 is. You 360 fanboys fail as hard as the 360 circuit board does when it over heats and gets the rrod.

[xg-ei8ht]

Mart u need to stop the cuetip when there is resistance.

So your saying there is a big diff between multiplats on both systems now?

Because you know as well as i do their isn't.

All games are built on standard pc code, ports from 360 to ps3 don't translate well because of this.

If you've not entered spu's into the mix, the result is poor ports, as seen many times, why do you think madden is 30fps on ps3 and 60fps on 360. Because no spu is used.

And because of this slowdown only using one ppu, the result can be anything from lower quality rez, to less aa, but even poorer assets. That is the reason the early ports look and run so poor.

FEAR. is a prime example of this.

Also your not getting the fact, i'm not slagging the 360 off graphically, as i've stated many times, i like the look of gears 2, but textures could use some work(no not the bumpmapping)

But eurogamer tears down anything ps3 wise. and you've got to wonder why.

For you to say that the 360 will always have the upper hand multiplat wise is silly. They are already on par.

Which is what multiplats are supposed to be, unless you give them $$ to add a few things.

Your not talking about gamefailers are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watc... washed out. That's the reason why. as stated many times by many people.

http://www.trap17.com/index...

look at the poor gears textures on the floor.

Gears 2 has the same problem.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/o...

Look how crisp that is. You can almost touch it.

[tudors]

technical jargon to hide the fact that there is no proof that the PS3 is the stronger console for games.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

I can't believe this is what xbutts cling on to for dear life?!
Its 2 systems & you base superority because ps3 has to be adjusted on the television
to look just like the broke box version.
that's the stupidest thing I ever heard of!

Xbox is darker but ps3 is lighter? Should I turn down the brightness of my tv?
yes.
xbox has color ps3 looks "washed out"? Should I raise the color on my tv?
yes.

Verdict: its the same great game! Any questions?

[Ri0tSquad]

Call me whatever you want but it does not look like that on the PS3. There's something wrong with that comparison. I'm not buying it. I compared the games myself and it doesn't look like that (bland colors and washed out). It's equal. I seen the same amount of jaggies (AA) and I got the controllers mixed up because they looked identical. You won't see a difference with textures. I don't trust Eurogamer's comparisons anymore. These comparisons are stupid. Do them yourself and you'll see exactly what I mean.

[tudors]

I have played both versions of Battlefield bad company and saw very little difference, I think the water looked better on the Xbox-360 version but even then I was not sure because the water looks better in some sections of the maps than others, so I would be happy to think that there really is no difference.

[THAMMER1]

XBOX360 13 and PS3 0.

[Greedy Genius]

people go hard over MULTI-PLATFORM games, you guys are arguing the same game and they play the exact same way. makes no sense to me at all. If u really want to compare games then compare EXCLUSIVES that are in the same genre. IMO ps3 exclusives rape xbox360 exclusives and thats real talk...

[etownone]

haha... that really is embarrassing..

BUT, i can guarantee you IF the day ever comes that the PS3 wins a "round-off" your going to see the SDF in full force screaming "THE POWER OF THE CELL HAS BEEN UNLEASHED"... "BLU-RAY FOREVER"...."SONY, I LOVE YOU"... and you'll have yahoo posting the news on its front page.

The 360 winning another round-off just isn't newsworthy anymore, because it's just expected.

[n4gno]

bangladesh,look at this non-cnet (ms) site : http://www.gamestats.com/

more real.

and don't forget, the old game are overated, you can't compare.

[Gitaroo]

looks like PS3 win round 1 and loose the rest lol, but its only matter if the game is good, crap like Iron Man or craptastic four dont even mean crap. Crap developers using a developer friendly hardware and pull off better results are no brainer.

COD4 is a interesting case, the PS3 version has 8XAF but lower res ground texture, 360 version has higher res texture but 0AF

360
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/CoD...
PS3
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/CoD...

so PS3 has much sharper but lower res texture and 360 has blurry higher res texture. To me its only a tie, and most 360 rarely even has AF.

as for the special fx and particle effects, PS3 version clearly pwns the 360 version

360

http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/CoD...

PS3

http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/CoD...

no because its different frame, the whole level look like that on 360.

[THE_MACC]

I love this Sh*t.
The Ps3 is better cos Iron Man plays and Looks Better, so the PS3 is better..........

yeah okay, I'm not going to play Iron Man on any console. I don't care about Iron Man. give me a break.

[tobin_blade]

Damn right man!!

PS3 Fanboys on tour 2008. lol

[Horny]

I got Battlefield for the 360 and Unreal Tournament for PS3 of that list. Id recommend the PS3 version for Unreal because of Mod support and more maps.
I got Battlefield for the 360 which is almost identical to the PS3 version, go with where you have more friends online.

[tk]

After 5 hours of analyzing a screen they came to the conclusion that maybe a blade of grass looked more bright on the one and awarded it the title of winner. I am so glad. Would not be able to enjoy the games without knowing it.