Apple building up iPad 3 to rival Xbox 360 and PS3, claims XMG's Adam Telfer

PocketGamer: The quandary many developers face when setting out their desires for a new piece of hardware is, most – if not all - happen to be gamers too.

It's a mental tussle perfectly illustrated by XMG Studio's VP of game development Adam Telfer.

While he wants Apple to take on Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo in the living room, he's also wary of the development costs involved for outfits such as XMG if iPad 3 represents a major step up from its predecessor.

We caught up with Adam for his take on how Apple should find the right balance for developers and consumers alike with its all-conquering iPad.

[Malice-Flare]

how long does the battery last playing PS3/360 intensive games?

besides, a phone game developer making a judgement call on console games? sorry, not credible enough...

[Pixel_Enemy]

The question will be does the thing have the ability to use physical buttons? We already know that the iPad can connect to a TV, it already has the ability to do OnLive console quality gaming.

[Saladfax]

It doesn't seem like they're pointing to the iPad by itself to be a standalone gaming marvel. Having only a touchscreen is a terrible input method for most games, which is why most of said games are incredibly simplistic or just plain shit.

More likely, they're looking to continue the trend of device consolidation. Get a peripheral controller, hook it up to your TV, and if the hardware in the thing is half-decent, you have a portable console.

Right now, the app store has pretty crap games with a few decent ports of indie titles or remastered adventure games, etc, but you never know when that might change. If the hardware works and there's enough audience there, developers (yes, even good ones) will port or create original products for the devices.

[SoapShoes]

Pippin 2 confirmed!

[Razongunz]

the iPad 3 will have a anstonishing 30 MINUTES of battery life running crysis 2 ... i could serroiusly see that coming xD

its probbably easy to get a tablet with console/pc graphics if u just have the tech and want the cash out all those $$$$ for a tablet with a GPU/CPU like that.

if its true, that the ipad 3 will have the graphics or proccesing power of a ps3/360 you can expect to pay about a 1000-1500$ for it i'm sure. oh and then its the controls..ups nope sorry..forgot.. no..controls..whatsoever.. *sigh*

[Soldierone]

Look at Razers tablet. The first "true" gaming tablet that plays PC games. Its pricey as hell, but even then it still can't play things like Battlefield 3 on high settings.

Let's not forget that PS3 and 360 are somewhat dated hardware now, even the console owners agree since a new generation is coming. So congrats Apple you caught up to a generation thats already over....Plus aren't Apple computers slacking in the gaming department? Dues Ex just recently got announced for it, and it's been out how long?

[NeloAnjelo]

And next year we get the Ipad 4, followed by the Ipad 5. Sony and MS however will still be giving gamers value with an actual product life cycle. Something that we can have in the long term with continued support.

[THESONYPS3]

Don't worry we will handle this ;)

[THESONYPS3]

Hahaha we definately aren't worried ;)We have this under controll

[majiebeast]

Gaming on a ipad is like putting ketchup on a steak you just dont do it.

[reynod]

Same could be said when people played FPS and RTS games on a controller(instead of a Mouse and keyboard which are far more accurate). Yet people didnt mind the limitations.

No reason why a BT controller cant be synced to a tablet or phone for gameplay.

[saladthieves]

You're forgetting about something - homo sapiens (human beings) only have 2 hands; there's only so much we can carry in both hands before we look very awkward.

Syncing a controller to a tablet would be a nice way, except that you'd need to be seated somewhere to play with a controller in your hands on your tablet. Wait, don't consoles have that part completely covered??

[reynod]

The tablet gets hooked up to your TV just like a console via HDMI and is powered up so the batteries dont drain.

Grab the controllers play from the couch just like a console.

[Saladfax]

It furthers the notion Apple pushed the tablet for in the first place. Scenario:

Your tablet docked at your bedside blares its alarm to wake you up on a Saturday morning. You pick it up, walk over the bathroom, grooming yourself while listening to a bit of music.

Down to the kitchen, you keep your favorite jams going while you pull up a nice waffle recipe, mounting it on another stand so you can prepare breakfast.

While eating, you switch over to Netflix to catch an episode of Futurama at your kitchen counter(best show ever), finishing the show while you put dishes away.

After this, you pull google maps to do a bit of Saturday errand running, maybe the local Home Depot for parts for a leaky faucet. The iPad's a bit big for a car dock (though I'm sure they exist), and you've only got the wifi version, so no turn by turn, but it's nice to have a map readily available.

At home, you listen to a podcast or NPR while fixing the leaky faucet. Then there's a bit of weekend emails which need to be handled, so you dock it at your keyboard set up. Heck, maybe you even grabbed a big external monitor.

Once finished, you bring the tablet down to the basement and dock it to the TV, grabbing a controller to play your favorite, latest triple-A game title. You have guests coming, so once finished, you set it to a picture slideshow and set it into the wall mount as a nice bit of decor.

/scene

This is the kind of thing they're looking to do with pretty much all devices. Is it smart? Is it the best idea? Will it work out that way?

Not necessarily, but they're definitely going to try.

[Voxelman]

mmm ketchup on steak 'n' chips....

[chad22hkd]

For rts,and mmo games, and some others yes, the keyboard and mouse are better. But for fps its a toss up. The mouse have wayyy better aim, but the wasd keys sucks for movement. You are far more agile and fast moving with a controller. Other than that any 2d platformer, fighting game, or many popular sport games are far better with a controller, ahhh you silly little sheepish fanboys.

[Voxelman]

not sure what that had to do with ny post about liking ketchup on steak 'n' chips....

[pandaboy]

lol, you silly little sheepish ketchup fanboy

[pandaboy]

lol, you silly little ketchup fanboy

[OmegaSaiyanX]

Are rubbish full stop. They have been flogging around the same rubbish for years and adding a small upgrade then charging hundreds for it and all the sheep flock to the Apple store walking over each other and then crying and screaming that they were first in line and how comes some guy behind them gets it first - cos he pre-ordered online lmfao.

[thewhoopimen]

the same could be said about all pc makers even before apple made it big...

[UltimateIdiot911]

No...you can't because these kind of things don't happen with PC. When was the last time you've seen hoards of buyers fighting over the latest Dell laptop or HP outside of black Friday?

[saladthieves]

If you've been paying the smallest bit of your attention towards tech news, you'd know that Apple is on a suing rampage.

That includes patent trolling all around the globe, from San Francisco to Germany all the way to Australia. Their claims? Patent infringement; which is a load of bull. They have the dumbest of patents - "slide to unlock" being one of them. How they were granted this patent when it was already implemented in other phones BEFORE they even made an iPhone, is beyond my belief.

If there's one true thing about Apple's current situation is that they are worried and feel threatened by the competition. They don't want a company like Samsung (and its awesome galaxy devices) to continue beating them at their own game, taking the coward's way out - using the court system - is their solution.

For the record, the PC world has a lot more choices than the Apple world. People have freedom and they truly do "Think Different".

[Soldierone]

When did Apple make it big? Microsoft is what made computers big, and is still the leading company by a landslide....Not once has a computer company pulled a "we have lines waiting to get our new product!" advertising....yet they sell just as well, if not better.

@egidem, it's because Apple was sneaky and got the patents in area's that the patents were not already secured (like in Germany). It' stupid. we see stories about ordinary people doing that all the time and laugh at them, yet Apple does it and they get support?

[hadouken007]

Yeah my cousin bought the iPhone 4s or what ever its called, and I bought the galaxy S2,she was trying to tease me, thinking she had the better phone, I was like ha ha ha ha.....ha ha ha ha ..yeah OK.

[kreate]

LoL

[AusRogo]

I dont care if the graphics are good, if I want a portable with awesome games , ill get a vita or 3ds. REAL gaming handhelds.

[dcbronco]

And if you want to browse the web or word on a document you do? I would prefer an all in one device. Not saying it has to be an iPad. But having three or four devices is so last century. Time for something more. No more carrying a gaming hanheld, a phone and a tablet.

There can only be one.

[Soldierone]

I'll pull out a laptop. Typing on a tablet sucks, its good for quick little tweets or browsing the web, but typing a full document on one?

If you were true about "gaming and all in one" then you too would own a gaming laptop, otherwise your point is flawed. Same with "oh I'll just buy an added keyboard" really? How is that any different than having another gadget?

I find it funny that people brag about tablets, when I sit there and think "didn't we already have this 10 years ago in laptops?" You can get 3G/4G USB things, you can get touchscreens on them, you can hook them up to the TV (you can even do it wireless without an issue these days), you can play games, you can watch movies, you can do it all, we have had this technology for years and its WAY more advanced than tablets.

[tiffac008]

True but to my understanding he only wants to play games and not make word documents. So there's no really point in carrying an all in one device, when a dedicated handheld gaming device is all he needs.

You can browse on the Vita btw.

[mttrackmaster38]

And when you're battery runs out after all that gaming, no more phone calls for you!

[dcbronco]

Soldierone, Computer gamers spend way too much for way too little upside. Unless you're willing to buy new every other year. Most console gamers(like me) aren't. Doesn't mean I'm not "true" about gaming.I don't own a tablet, but i would buy a tablet before a Vita because it will do more and have more power. I prefer small screen laptops. But I refuse to go top of the line when I know the price of whatever I buy will drop 40% before the end of the year.

Tiffac008, then get a phone. More power and you can get a cell company to pay most of the cost. Sony should have the sense to add a phone to the Vita. That would make it more worthwhile. But they still haven't learned their lesson with the premium pricing game.

mttrackmaster38, I seem to remember the PS Vita having a short battery life. Or do you believe it will continue to work after the battery dies. 41/2 isn't that great. At least the iPad is supposed to give you a lot more than that. ipad 3 is supposedly 3 to 4 times that.

[tiffac008]

Sorry but I don't play app games, I do see why people like them because you don't invest too much time on them but I prefer my gaming to have deeper experience, if I can bring my console gaming on the go then I prefer that.

Sony has to kill Xperia first before they do a PS Vita phone, its the logical step forward but the Vita was not made for the phone market.

There is Skype on the Vita btw, in a sense it can make calls.

Oh yeah the iPad should have more battery life, its bigger and Apple always sell at a premium price without people hating them for it. So they can afford to put a more bigger/expensive battery on the iPad.

[dcbronco]

I don't play app games either. My point is that handhelds are going to have to change or they are going to disappear. The idea of buying and overpriced Vita is crazy to me though. I agree that the controls are important, gyros are a joke for controls. But to me people who buy handhelds having the crazy idea that the majority of the public wants one more thing to lug around is amazing. If Skype was as reliable as cell phones everyone would have one.

Look around, the vast majority of the public doesn't want a handheld.

Several billion do carry cell phones.

Phone are as powerful as handhelds and will surpass them later this year.

Game developers are going out of business.

Games on cell phones are getting better.

Big developers are starting to develop for cell phones.

Cell phones have too much in their favor. Microsoft just might be planning to open their entire Arcade catalog to Windows 8. Xbox OS is Windows based btw. That would suddenly open up a huge number of games that would immediately compete with Apple, Nintendo, Google and Sony. And it would be good across Xbox, tablets, phones and PC. Plus you would only buy the game once to have it for all.

Nintendo and Sony need to drop the handhelds and start licensing their games for phones.

[tiffac008]

But what you just said is already the end of dedicated handheld gaming... adding a phone function to it makes it a smartphone. lol!

The prices of the console goes down, even when a new and improve sku comes out, same cannot be said for smartphones or tablets. So the excuse that the Vita is overpriced (an opinion) is temporary and not permanent. Not really a solid reason against it.

Sony has said they are open to put their games on smartphones. The Xperia is already a sign of this.

Ninty will never do it because they are a toy company at heart. So the harmony of their hardware and software is important to them. They'll have to get out of the console business before they put their games on iOS or Android.

The developers will make games for the iOS and Android because its cheap but they're not going to make a high end cost game and sell it for $1-$5 and that's where the difference lies.

So at this point in time, I don't really see the end of the handheld market, the market may have been divided (significantly reduced) as the casuals have moved to the smartphone markets but the core gamers are still there and as long as the market makes money, it won't die anytime soon.

I don't expect it to be successful as the previous generation but in the end gamers buy consoles for their games not their extra functionality and that has never changed.

[dcbronco]

Uh, duh. That could be one way. Probably wouldn't work though.Considering it would still be a 30 million unit market against a 500-600 million market. You do understand that getting just 5% of the phone market on a game makes the handheld market look like a joke. Everyone that buys a handheld in a given year would have to buy a game to equal 5% of the phone market. Some gamers might not get that but developers do.

Let me try a pros and cons thing.

Pros. Vita

controls

Pros. Cell phone

Phone

Cell company will pay for most of it

You were probably going to buy an expensive phone anyway(btw, did u. bet u did)

phones constantly updating tech

more good developers using phones as platform

developers will make more expensive games for phones because there aren't huge royalty fees attached

Too many gamers are short sighted. Or have tunnel vision. Change doesn't have to come in the form of a phone. If they plan to stick around it might have to become a software driven medium. No $300 Vita when it cost $160 to make. Or ridiculous media prices.

Make a reasonably priced machine($199 on $160 BOM). Update it every 16-18 months. Make a media platform and stick with it for several generations(like 6 or 7 gens). Make a realistic storage system. Don't sell 4gb cards when your star game need 2gbs. Don't make overpriced storage mandatory, it's okay to have a little flash. Once you own a digital game you can transfer it to next system.

Those are changes that will allow them to stay around. The stupid sh-- they do now is why Sony has failed as a company for so many years in a row. Kaz has the right idea. But some inside Sony are stuck on stupid. They may have been Apple in th3e past with the premium pricing, but their time for that is long gone.

[guitar_nerd_23]

Based on my experience of selling iPads at work the core consumer of them are not gamers.

They are typically either males usually 35+ who treat it almost like a mid life crisis purchase or busy businessmen types and women 40+ who if they didn't exist would buy a netbook instead as they just want a web browser really.

[CBaoth]

If iPad brings gaming to a whole new audience, then that's good. It could mean the next time I pair up with some strangers for some Borderlands2 mayhem, I could be mass murdering with an investment banker on a PC? Sweet!! As a core gamer, it just means I have MORE options to play, not LESS. Did all the "core" games shrivel up and wilt away on Nintendo's handhelds? Did I lose out on core games because the PS2 and now Wii were flooded with shovelware? I can understand fanboy bias, but I never understood fanboy hatred.

[Titanz]

It's just the way you said it (mass murdering? I'd refrain from that type of talk).

[banana420]

LOL

[KingPin]

this isnt good news.

following recent events in the mobile market, Apple is suing MOTO and Samsung for using functions <mainly slide-to-unlock> that have been on phones long before the iphone came out.

going by this, Apple will start suing sony and microsoft for shit that they already doing or have done <on PS1/PS2 and original xbox> for years but just didnt patent the idea. im guessing it will be software related, id say most probable is the function to turn off your console from the menu.

[madjedi]

Which is why the whole patent system and while your at it legal system, needs a massive overhaul. To much bs and greed.

Why are website owners pushing mobile gaming to compete against dedicated handhelds or even consoles.

@author Is apple sending you guys checks in the mail, stfu already. And for the price of the ipad 3, you could probably build a very powerful pc.

I don't understand people anymore, i like technology and advances but i fail to see the point in buying yearly electronics that are only slightly improved vs the previous version.

When console gamers buy their systems they expect it to last several years/till the next gen hits. Pc guys same thing basically, they do a rebuild they are good for 3+ yrs.

When did buying electronics only to toss it out, a yr later for a new version become exceptable or even economically rational.

[KingPin]

you raise a good point there. since when has hardware become "disposable". More importantly, which idiot would buy an expensive device and only use it for 1 year and toss it away.

reminds me of the nokia phones of old. where each new phone that came out has just 1 new feature. instead of waiting a year and create a new phone with 10 new features they waited 3-6 months and made a new one.

Apple seems to have gone this route. EG: Siri - they could have easily waited a year and just released it on iphone 5 but nooooooo make an iphone 4, chuck an s on it and release it as a NEW phone. the iphone 4S.

can you imagine their gaming consoles? instead of firmware updates which is the route microsoft and sony took, Apple will just be slugging out new hardware. if sony did this, id have like 7 playstations in my house.

[ARTISAN]

apple has this whole 2 year philosophy. every two years and its time to replace. which for phones with a subsidized price i have nothing against but on computers? haha my macs 2 years old so what core i3 and it still works great (but i think ill just but a new quad core i7)
@kingpin
no they didn't just add siri! they added a dual core a5 processor at 800MHz and a dual gpu but other than that nah not much really

[guitar_nerd_23]

It's ridiculas, when they got distribution halted for the Galaxy tab based on their doctored photos I don't get why Samsung didn't just turn around and say right no screens for your iPads then.

[THC CELL]

just get a vita, i am hooked on unit 13 demo and uncharted 3 i do hope we see resident evil on 5th of march gdc
i have a feeling the big shocker will be a gta announced for it.. exclusive or maybe the getaway will come.. the vita is easy to develop for i can see the vita releasing games like the ps2 did and 1

[TheNocturnus]

An exclusive Vita GTA would be awesome. Maybe San Andreas Stories?

[bubwright]

i hate apple products! maybe if they lowered the price on every product they sold, and having to use itunes sucks!!!!!

[bunfighterii]

without tactile controls, it still won't catch on.

iOS devices have changed gaming, thats for sure, but they haven't bettered their rivals. the hardcore will stay with the joypad.

[EliteDave93]

If true the battery life will be absolute shite!

[kraze07]

Yeah, okay.

[bahabeast]

what a joke, i already cancelled my plans for a ipad and change to a vita and i already have a ps3 sooo good luck with that. they should worry alot though because the new kid on the block ahhhh VITA she can handle ps360 quality games, touch screen ios games, augmented reality games, psp games, ds games, ps vita games.

[WitWolfy]

YAWN... Damn PR talk

[Mikhail]

Wth... i have an ipad 2, its an excellent reader, browser and occasional gaming. Its function is still not up to par with laptops and now its being compared to consoles? I like apple products but i know its limitations.

[Knight_Cid]

no controls equal no competition

[sikbeta]

It's... over... gaming as we know will be dead, i-zealots will proclaim the ipad 3 the third coming of god (second being the iphone) and the best gaming system ever created... you can't go againt millions of zealots, so get used to it... :(

[UltimateIdiot911]

If anything, it can unite PC, all console and handheld fanboys against a common enemy.

[sikbeta]

Apple zealots > the whole community of fanboys on the internet and they're worst, lol

[DigitalAnalog]

Infinity Blade 3 ready for iPad3. Seriously, all that power and the only games the general user care about are the ones that can be run back with the original iphone.

[Muffins1223]

Not surprised

[Wolfbiker]

I doubt an ipad gamer would pay $20+ for a game.

[cheetorb]

When Apple builds something that hooks it up to my 65" HDTV, surround sound setup, has a comfortable controller and a sh*tload of big "real" games then MAYBE I'll consider comparing it with my 360 and PS3. Until then it's just tablet.

[Kwertie]

Having the power to play such games is one thing, having an input method to play them is another. I can't see people playing Street Fighter, CoD or 99% of the games on xbox or ps3 on a touchscreen.

[teedogg80]

If it doesn't have real buttons/analog sticks it will be no competition.

[ExCest]

Stupid. Just plain stupid.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

The iPad 3 games will surpass the ps3 and 360 as for quality and graphics. There will be a new hi end graphics chipping side and an A6 quad core processo and improved battery life. The draw back is trying to play games on the iPad is a nightmare and that has to be improved for me to buy it.

[gypsygib]

Well PS4 and NextBox are coming out in the next 2 years most likely so Apple is a little late to the game.

[GraveLord]

Source: PocketGamer.biz

Hahahaha! They are the ones that made up those low Vita UK sales numbers. NOT reliable at all. They are mobile/Apple fanboys. They make shit up.

[NicSage]

I refuse to purchase another apple product. My ipad screen went out 17days after the one year warranty and they expect me to pay 269.00 bucks to fix it, or get a new one they claim is not a referb. I've replaced my ps3 but that was after 3 years of intensive use. I do not expect products to fail after a year so shortly.

ipad 3 could have a sex port and i still would not purchase it.

[Soldierone]

Great, so if Apple joins in the next thing we know console generation won't last 6 to 10 years, they will last 6 to 10 months....With Apple's business model there is no such thing as price cuts, or supporting the same hardware till its maxed out. Its "once someone one ups us, we ditch whats out there and slightly upgrade to one up them! and MARKET THE HELL OUT OF IT so they think its amazing!" Once that happens I'm going back to PC gaming....Yeah PC, not Apple.

Also to tag along points.

-Added peripheral to play games? Really is this going to be 600 dollars too? Why not I don't know, do something like the Vita? Hell follow the Xperia Play and have a slide out controller? If gaming was a priority it will have it all built in out of the box, end of story.

-Tired of people comparing the amount of power these things have. You do realize that phones out there on the market RIGHT NOW have about 50 times the power of a PSP? Some of them are more powerful than the Vita for crying out loud, yet the only game that looks mind blowingly awesome is on....the Vita, what a surprise. And yet not a single PSP game is on iOS, just simple knockoffs that suck to play on a touchscreen.

[dcbronco]

You're not a Sony fanboy at all. Not every product is so narrowly marketed. Sony is slowly moving toward the phone gaming market. Just because they have Playstation doesn't mean they don't see the opportunity with phones. Xperia is an attempt to capture part of a market that dwarfs gaming consoles. While a handheld might sell 200 million copies in it's lifetime, phones sell over 500 million a year. And like you realize, they update every few months. Handhelds will fall behind quickly and developers are seeing the added opportunities phones have. Too many go out of business dealing with "gamers". And the companies that want to charge $40 or 50 for a handheld game. Developers know they can make money selling to phone users $10 at a time instead of selling 200,000 copies of a handheld game that cost them 10 million to develop.

[Soldierone]

No, the thing shouldn't be dated, thats the issue. Okay you have a phone out there right new with several cores, the power of 3 PSP's, and it ISNT BEING UTILIZED. Imagine if the PS3 and 360 just came out with a new console the very first time a developer said it was "maxed out." We would be on round 10 by now, yet look at them. Old specs that are still competing with the latest specs...You don't see phones doing that do you?

Of course they can make money doing that but it isn't going to last forever. The core gaming market has withstand ed decades and improves technology dramatically.

And sure Sony enters the phone market, I still don't see an Xperia Play 2 out there yet, and the original has lasted a lot longer than most phones have lately.

Btw how are companies not making millions of actual games? They sell at least a million units when a console/handheld hits its stride, thats 40 to 50 million dollars for one game...if there was no money to be had, they would stop making them.

[llMurcielagoll]

@Title

Sure you can build up a tablet with specs that would top consoles, it is doable.

But the real question is, would it top or rival the traditional analogue/thumb sticks, D-Pads and buttons? I don't think so; Not for me at least.

In all fairness, my lifestyle does not need a tablet system for one thing. I suppose the iPad 3 will be at least 2 times more expensive than the recently released PS Vita which is way out of my budget lol.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Ipad will be a lame LAME A FRAGGIN lame version of what the Razor can already do!

Apple stick to music and phones and overpriced computers...

[AtomicGerbil]

When the prices of consoles are picked apart left, right and centre I say good luck with your £600 tablet.

Not only that, we are on the verge of three new consoles from Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, all with dedicated fans, dedicated franchises and all in one form or another have traditional gaming controls that are proven to work effectively with pretty much any genre. Consoles that are all very much likely to be much lower than £600.

On top of that you have a substantial PC userbase, many of whom could build a high end tower for less than £600, where games can be mind blowing at best with many, many control schemes to choose from.

In conclusion, you won't be able to sell it to me when I have these much cheaper and much more fit for purpose options to choose from. I can only assume I'm not alone.

[Braid]

Let me get this straight: as long as the new iPad does not have built-in buttons, it can't rival jack s#ht.

I own an iPhone 4 and an iPad 2, both of them provide high quality graphics but they fail so hard when it comes to gameplay. I've downloaded GTA 3 HD recently and controlling the game with a touch screen was a royal pain in the arse. I ended up deleting it with my money thrown out of the window.

No man, touch screens are not good enough for hardcore gamers. I love me some controllers.

[BitbyDeath]

The only thing Apple will rival is PSN Mini's and XBLA

[Ace_Man_6]

it's Minis, not Mini's :)

[BitbyDeath]

Thanks :-p

[Trekster_Gamer]

Sorry, not even that. They are more on par with some of the lamer indies games XBL....

[Ace_Man_6]

How would the iPad rival the current gen consoles?! Apple can do whatever they want, when they want. Hell they now have more money than the whole of Poland for goodness sake! If they want to make a console, they'll make a console, if they don't, they don't. Plain and simple.

If anything, the iPad will still rival with the other handheld consoles, like the Vita, 3DS etc.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Money does not mean they will rival or even on par with MS and Sony who have been at the gaming gig a heck of a lot longer....

[InFAMOUS1]

Touch screen gaming is so limited though.... Basically 2D platformers.. Any type of shooter or sports game requires a controller/keyboard and mouse.. Not to mention the amount of shovel ware for the app store.. Sorry, but I will stick to my PS3 and PC..

[SDF Repellent]

Just think outside the box for a second. What if Apple merged something like the ipad 3 with a game console like Apple TV? It will be similar to a WiiU but sold as 2 separate pieces. It is a way for apple to enter the core console gaming business so to speak. It is definitely a possibility. We will find out next week.

[Redcrimson101]

This is the conclusion I came up with, if apple wants to compete with consoles they should create their own console and put it out on the market. Creating and syncing a controller to a tablet is just too much. First u have to buy the iPad for $600-700 then buy a pricey control to synct to it then an hdmi cable comes up to too much money, that's almost a "G" u mite as well buy a hi end pc or just get new and better consoles from nintendo,Sony, and ms. Apple is wasting their time. Go on ahead and make a console and get over it. Get taken out the game like sega lol

I'm not hating though. Let's see what happens. Let's see if apple can take out the big three. If they can, then I'll support or buy their system. Apple taking over the big three, that'll be the day I stop playing video games. Competition is good for the sooul and drives innovation as well as bring the best out of everyone. Technology Is a beautiful thing, u see how far it got us. Gaming on a portable device lol. Oh I almost forgot, most people prefer to game On a v set than a portable or hand held.

[KMCROC54]

I truly think that everyone at Apple should follow thier former Ceo in taking a dirt nap & take that stupid apple with you.

[rattletop]

lol- http://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0

[TBONEJF]

Ok getting sick and tired of these guys comparing IPAD to Xbox 360 or PS3. IT'S NOT THE SAME DAMN THING. WHEN are they GOING TO GET THROUGH THEIR THICK DUMB HEADS.

[TBONEJF]

Ok getting sick and tired of these guys comparing IPAD to Xbox 360 or PS3. IT'S NOT THE SAME DAMN THING. WHEN are they GOING TO GET THROUGH THEIR THICK DUMB HEADS. And if they take them on APPLE WILL SUE SONY

[slavish]

good for consumers bad for vita and wii-u