Can next-gen games look like this?

GB : Have you ever imagined how the next-gen character models could look like? The leap in hardware capability should be pretty sufficient to support high polygon models in-game. Now, most of these images we have below are created via Z Brush, which allows for some insane polygon count and it is simply not practical for these models to be rendered real time in game. Such hardware does not exist unless you do it at some render farm. But there are plenty of techniques like tessellation, which allow for increased polygons without straining the hardware a lot.

[theeg]

metro2033 dx11 on pc already look better than many of these;

http://ve3d.ign.com/images/...

http://ve3d.ign.com/images/...

http://www.pcgameshardware....

those are all in-game, metro2033 is beyond what next gen consoles will do, it can be played natively in 2560x1600p with 16x anti aliasing and a myriad of dx11 features that next gen consoels will not even dream of.

@colwyn

agreed with you, the ps4 may come out and be a beast, the 720 will be a full gen behind current pc's, if it launches with that ancient, low spec 6670 like people are saying, i dont think MS is going for power at all this time, they are going casual, like nintendo, ps4 is the only hope for a bad-ass, hardcore gaming machine.

but it still won't have jack on pc, unless you want it to cost $900!

[Colwyn]

most hope in ps4

[torchic]

really Colwyn? are you going to PS4 spam every article which has anything to do with next-gen until the actual day when we hear anything about the next-gen consoles? like don't you get tired of praising something that doesn't actually exist?

[Sgt_Slaughter]

Yeah pretty much every article involving next-gen or something not involving Sony, you have to bring them up in the comments just to defend them. Truth is, you are one of the worst trolls on N4G. Simple as that.

[BuffMordecai]

@Colwyn

Those disagree show some serious butthurt, Wii U isn't going to be that powerful, and the nextbox according to rumors isn't either. The PS4 is the only console that has a chance of being a powerhouse. Also if microsoft goes along with that retarded plan of not allowing used games, I can see a lot of people switching over to the PS4.

[decrypt]

People thinking PS4 has any hope of being a powerhouse are only setting themselves up for dissapointment. All the consoles will be within each others reach.

There are afew reasons for this:

1. Costs- Nintendo proved this gen you dont need a powerful console to sell. MS and Sony started of with alot of losses, they probably will want to minimise the initial loss. Specially Sony barely made a profit this gen.

2. Power requirements- While hardware has become more powerful, it also requires alot more power. Which would again mean expensive PSUs, going into the box, making it heavy.

3. Heat generation- Console gamers tend to ignore this because most of them never have seen a high end PC gpu running. These things generate a ton of heat and need large casings with nice airflow to stay cool.

Why do people think high end gaming laptops come with much weaker GPUs then the desktop version. Its because of the last 2 reasons i mentioned. Hence unless Sony or MS figure out a way to defy physics or dont mind YLOD RROD there wont be a console next gen that even performs close to mid range PCs of that time.

Console gamers i urge you to try and get a chance to seeing a GPU like the GTX 580 running then go on feel how much heat that thing generates. Hell even a midrange GPU like the GTX 560. Anyone of you with comon sense will realise there is no way a console casing can help dissapate all that heat.

[moschops90]

i think he said he WANTS ps4 to be that good as it might be his brand by choice, did'nt necessarily mean that it will be.

[ShinMaster]

Nowhere near the same level of lighting, detail or vibrancy.

[JohnnyMann420]

Looks at article pic given..

God I hope not!

[mcgrottys]

I think I remember reading a while back that Sony weren't going to spend too much on power seeing as how that made them lose out a lot of market share the first 2 or 3 years. Also remember, the xbox was the most powerful last gen so as far as we know the Wii U might be the most powerful... (highly doubtful but still...)and also last gen the PS2 was the least powerful. So only time will tell. Also the graphics leap between xbox/ps2 and 360/ps4 was huge after 5 years so just think about 7/8. But PC will most likely beat them hands down, though there may be a few months where some exclusives may look better than a lot of games on PC but once new hardware comes out that will change.

[cyborg6971]

Your funny the game cube was less powerful than the ps2.

I will dub you as the subtle troll.

[Machioto]

Actually the ps2 and gamecube were equal in power but it was up to developers harness it,if you want an example there was the path of neo that did bump mapping and resident evil out break had the same lighting as resident 0 on gamecube.

[yabhero]

don't crush colwyn's hope of having a 1000+ dollar super powerful PS4 where each games take 5 years to develop and end up with a total of 10 sales

[mcgrottys]

here are the hardware specs for last gens consoles.
DreamCast:
CPU- 200 MHz SuperH SH-4
GPU- 100 MHz NEC/VideoLogic PowerVR CLX2
RAM- 26mb

PS2:
CPU- 294 MHz MIPS "Emotion Engine"
GPU- 147 MHz "Graphics Synthesizer"
RAM- 40mb

GameCube:
CPU- 485 MHz PowerPC "Gekko"
GPU- 162 MHz ATI "Flipper"
RAM- 43mb

xbox:
CPU- 733 MHz x86 Intel Celeron/PIII Custom Hybrid
GPU- 233 MHz Custom Nvidia NV2A
RAM- 64mb

There you go.

[SnuggleBandit]

While the cell was a factor in the ps3 initial price, far and away the biggest burden was blu ray. Do you remember how much blu ray players cost back then?? They cost more than the ps3 itself!

Next gen they wont have this worry, plus if they use a derivative of the cell, it will be even less expensive for them. I wouldn't count out the ps4 as being a power house yet.

[Machioto]

@mcgrottys you know that frequency is only half of the equation, architecture and over all efficiency can contribute to a good system the core clock of gtx580 is slower than radeon 6970 but nvidia card is faster.

[YoungKingDoran]

cyborg man really? GC was pretty powerful.
play re4 or killer7 on both consoles and tell us the ps2 is more powerful.

[Machioto]

This is what I meant by my first post.

[Bereaver]

Of course the PC will be the best if you're willing to shell out the cash but Sony won't need to invest half of what it did last gen because the R&D is being reused. They'll stick with the Cell and will make something much more powerful without half the costs.

[PopRocks359]

Uhh, Wii U has been geared toward casual and core gamers. Microsoft is going on a massive casual binge because the Kinect was such a smash success.

[SJPFTW]

its great to know your comparing systems that have not been released or announced yes.

also metro 2033 dont look nearly as good as those pictures

thus your an idiot

[Karlnag3]

That's "you're an idiot" and apparently, you are!

[Darkfocus]

Metro easily looks that good....The game also has incredible looking motion blur.

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[Bob570]

The Xbox 360's GPU in 2005 was comparable to a $600 graphics card. Remember, manufacturers don't pay the same price we pay.

[OpenGL]

They also lost a lot of money on the hardware initially and despite all of their extra processing power, they were quickly overtaken by the Wii in market share.

Microsoft probably wants to replicate the success of the Wii, so they'll launch a console that is more powerful than current gen hardware but still cost effective, making it possible for a $299 launch price.

The PS4 sounds likely to be the most powerful next-gen console but will also likely launch after the other two.

[Bob570]

@OpenGL

The idea was to gain back their money on the games and XBL while getting a jump on the market. That worked out pretty well. Less than a year after it came out, the production costs dropped below their retail price and they were making profits on their hardware again. And the overwhelming vast majority of their sales were after production costs had dropped.

They took a hit in the beginning, and it made them a lot of money in the long run. This is Microsoft we're talking about, they can afford to take a gamble like this in effort increase long term profits, and it worked extremely well with this generation.

The Original Xbox also cost more to produce than it's retail price when it first launched. I doubt this is about to change, especially because chances are pretty good that they will want this to last a long time like the current generation has.

There won't be a huge gap between next gen Playstation and Xbox as far as processing power goes, and the hardware will be impressive. Mark my words.

[Bob570]

Not sure why I have so many disagrees. People need to do some research. The 360's GPU is closest to an ATI X1900, which in 2005 would set you back $600, this is fact not an opinion.

[JsonHenry]

They could. But won't.

Don't fret though. If you want games that look like that just pick up or build your own PC gaming rig. You could have some of those pics right now.

[ProjectVulcan]

Pretty much this and OpenGL above this. They could easily look like this now if a manufacturer comes out next year with a 'power' console.

By that i mean a machine they lose money on the hardware to build and fit the latest GPU generation from Nvidia or AMD out this year. That sort of performance fitted to a console would be able to knock these sort of visuals out in 1080p.

It seems likely than Microsoft will join Nintendo in the budget face off, using slower hardware to save money.

Surely one of them will build a power console for next gen? Will Sony? Who knows. We will probably know a lot better how next gen is shaping up by the end of this year.

If they all build very different machines then i think this would be a good thing! Everyone gets catered for, and i can happily buy them all again and they will hopefully all prove to be worth owning in their individual ways because of their variety.

[GrumpyVeteran]

Exactly, this article is pathetic. PC already shits over what people are "dreaming" next-gen will look like. Yawn, next gen is here, leave your ancient console relics behind, guys. By the time the new consoles are out PC will already be 12 times as powerful.

[specialguest]

The problem with a PC gaming rig and its high specs is that you'll never see the full potential of what those high specs are capable of.

Current high end PC rigs are at least 4-5 times more power than current consoles on paper, yet games like BF3 on ultra settings don't seem like they are.

If you compare PC games with 2005 tech (example: BF2) to current consoles, no PC games from 2005 even comes close to the graphics achieved by current consoles. Basically, console specs may seem outdated, but consoles get more mileage out of what little it have.

[gobluesamg]

Yeah I'm sittin in my computer chair at my desk looking at a 24 inch moniter switching between World of Warcraft and jerking off to Anime," says Louis Skolnick aka GrumpyVeteran. No thanks man, I'll take the PS4 on my 55 inch Samsung LED and chillin on my couch and not worrying about swapping out my graphics card.

[Big_Dom]

You're clearly not feeling well. Metro 2033 looking better than a high poly Zbrush model? Have you even seen the kind of detail that a high sub div model in Zbrush is like? There are no tricks involved like a deformation map or normals. It's raw geometry detail that would literally melt any gaming engine out there if a high resolution model were ported over. In fact, many rendering programs like Mental Ray struggle.

Next gen, and even the next gen after that wouldn't get close to replicating a Zbrush model in regards to pure geometry resolution of something like 40 million points at the highest sub div. Whenever a voxel cubic-based projection engine is possible, then maybe the unified skins from Zbrush could be ported directly over and retain the information and fidelity. That could be some time away.

[Abdou23]

Actually no,the photos you shows isn't as near as what in that website.Anyway i'd be happy if next consoles can deliver graphics same as Battlefield 3 on PC, logically we should see even more better graphics because Battlefield 3 has already been released and next gen consoles are already still in the works. But wouldn't developers take even more time to make such amazing graphics ?!

[Gaming101]

A lot of the textures look really flat in Metro 2033, not to mention a lot of devs are giving up on PC gaming because of all the pirating that goes on, and to be honest I don't blame them. Why put all your blood sweat tears and long hours into a game that nets no profits because of rampant stealing? PS4 will cost Sony a billion dollars in R&D, manufacturing and marketing so don't expect it to be out anytime soon, but it will definitely impress.
Besides, you can't get the graphics 'theeg' is talking about on a $900 PC anyway, so his point is moot.

[mabreu]

I see one major limitation of all of today's gaming graphics; not a single frame and/or video shows true Ray Tracing.

PC graphics STILL have to rely on "smoke and mirrors" which comes out looking like a grey colored and blocky environment, that happens to have sharp textures. Sorry but this Metro2033 will never look like this attached image.

[mabreu]

Here is a high-res version if your wondering.

http://upload.wikimedia.org...

Disagree all you want, you know your $6000 or whatever price you paid for your PC will never have the ability to render a game with 100% ray tracing.

The graphics argument is old, what we should be talking about is art direction which has more value in a game than pixel counts.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I totally agree with you, I can't accept any next gen console or era without at least a step in ray-tracing rendering. I have waited enough, we can't wait 20 years more. No ray-tracing for the next gen, no REAL NEXT-GEN. If Sony makes a smart move and don't rely on top star GPU manufacturers like Nvidia and ATI (because they will leave the PS4 with an old-gen crippled GPU) and rely on ambitious independant companies like Imagination with its upcming Power-VR GPUs that can do Ray-Tracing with ease, Sony will impress again like how they did with the Cell, so the PS4 will have another future proof processor and now a future proof GPU add to that some great amount of XDR2 (2 or 4 GB of that RAM can launch a nuclear bomb) and the PS4 will satisfy us and do Ray-Tracing at a certain level. I hope Sony won't go the easy path and opt for less costly but less powerful architecture like Nintendo and Microsoft.

[SugarSoSweet]

Why the fuck are ppl disagreeing with this guy he is absolutely right!!! Must be a bunch of console fanboys

The 720 is going to suck with its crippled entry level 6670 LOL expect 720p sub-hd visuals again console twats

[DeadManMcCarthy]

i agree theeg, only butt hurt consolers are disagreeing with you because they can't accept the truth.

[ziggurcat]

@ theeg

typical PC elitist... and no, those don't look better than most of the images in the article.

[CanadianTurtle]

Bro, those are just images. Crysis 2 looked amazing in "images" for the ps3. But when the actual video came out, it looked like garbage.

[theeg]

those are in game, the ones i posted, it looks even better in real life, unlike console screenshot where you cannot tell how jaggy and poorly the game looks from a screen .

look at all the fake trailers and bullshot console gamers fall for every time, gears 3....lol....ended up looking almost exactly like gears 2, uncharted 3 look WORSE than uncharted 2.

consoles have been maxed since 2008

[ziggurcat]

@ theeg

uncharted 3 did not look worse than 2. you need to have your eyes checked.

[Burning_Finger]

Uncharted 3, Killzone 3,God Of War 3 and The Last of Us all said HI!!

[theeg]

and???????

they all look last gen compared to bf3, metro2033, crysis 1, crysis warhead, hard reset, shogun 2 crysis 2, x3, arma 2, anything on pc from the last 5 years maxed out, 1080p, 16x anti aliasing makes those old game you mentioned look last gen.

edit@MrMagnum,

welcome to the future:) it's always next gen here!

until you join the pc fold, you don't even know how silly people sound mentioning uncharted3 or killzone 3, it like dude, those games look great for console, but old games like titan quest from 2006, or far cry 2 look way better on pc, maxed out in 1080p.....

[Mrmagnumman357]

agree, BF3 looks incredible on my gtx 570 pc, also im a modder, and have gotten some amazing stuff in the crysis 2 mod sdk(aka Cryengine 3) I just joined the pc race around december last year, check out my mod here http://www.crydev.net/viewt...

[Mrmagnumman357]

Well i have been a fan of pc gaming for a while, but last year i finally built a pc that will run everything at ultra, and 2500x1600 or supersampled, also i have been modding for about a half year, i just was on a weaker pc

[FlashBack]

I don't think so, Uncharted 3 can be more pleasant to look at than far cry 2 at max and 1080p.

[_LarZen_]

BF3 is not a pretty game, take away the incredible stupid sun effects and you have a game that is just like all other games..the textures are nothing to write home about and the shadows in the game is a joke.

GTX590 owner here btw...

[hiredhelp]

@LarZen
You have a £500 card And a game that utilizes a quad core guessin you own a quad core and uses given your supposed gtx590 with 2x 384bit gpu,
You say that frosbite 2.0 is SHIT basicly..lighting crap textures nothing to right home about. Stupid sun effects too ca mon.
Really you sure you running a gtx590 ?

[YoungKingDoran]

i still play 8 bit games.
i dont give a shit about that stuff.
ill enjoy the good games, you enjoy your visual fidelity

[Darkfocus]

Titan quest is great looking for a game that came out in 2006...

http://cloud.steampowered.c...

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[zero_cool]

Question...

[BlmThug]

And PC games said "Bye"

[MariaHelFutura]

That was actually pretty funny.....

[Bioshocking]

sigh...

Ps3 vs Pc on N4G...

nothing new here...

http://t2.gstatic.com/image...

come on guys, can't we all get along.

Can't the PC guys admit that the PS3 games look incredible for consoles, and can't the PS3 guy's admit that even though our games look good, they don't match up to the constant graphical updates the PC will recieve.

In my opinion, I like the PS3 games for asthetic reasons alone, but I cant deny PC games look really good.

And seriously, graphics are important and all, but why does everyone dismiss the fun factor and story to these games? Why are we all so obsessed with pretty games?

Sure, I get it graphics are the most notable thing about games, if the game looks good people get interested. But what looks good to you may look different to some one else.

Some guy was saying that Bulletstorm on PC looks better than Uncharted 3.... ok, thats good for him. The problem was that he was acting like a d-bag, completely acting like Uncharted 3's graphics are not special.

Stating an opinion is fine, but we have to stop coming of like a bunch of A**holes raging infront of our computers about what looks best.

Well, it marks the landmark as the PS3 has never been pushed that hard before, they hit the limit to what a 5-6 year old hardware can do.

I occasionally use my PC for gaming, it is not the best rig, but it does a decent enough job.

Guys, we need to get along, this bullsh*t platform war is ridiculous.

Just state your opinion, explain it properly, dont come of as a douche and then get involved in some intellectual conversation.

Not... haha, "KILzONe lOok BEttA thAN aNY Pc GAme"

Just get along and stop acting like d*cks to each other... it's really annoying, and makes us all look bad

[MsclMexican]

holy sh*t dude... that was one of the greatest things I have ever heard on N4G...

+ bubbles for well said,

guys... we need to stop this nonsense.

Just look to the future positively, rather than a bunch of morons fighting one another

[DaReapa]

Wow!! A mature comment. Almost forgot what one of those looks like. Anyways, totally agree. Like you, along with a PS3, I have a semi-decent gaming rig, but it does its job.

[dboyman]

+Bubbles to you. I feel the same way. All this fighting between pc and ps3 fans over certain details they tend to forget the most important things, that games are fun to play. PC games and ps3 games can have own worlds. BTW I game on both....

[xtreampro]

Nice acting there, anyways PC gamers have already accepted that PS3 exclusives do tend to look better than most console games but unlike you and many others we don't claim that every PS3 games looks the best on consoles.

We also acknowledge that PC's completely trump consoles ;)

[Ducky]

"Now, most of these images we have below are created via Z Brush, which allows for some insane polygon count and it is simply not practical for these models to be rendered real time in game."

... but doesn't ZBrush produce those images in realtime? You can export the model with the maps for a software render, but you can get something fairly high detailed in realtime with zbrush on relatively modest hardware. (Even if it isn't exactly a proper 3D model)

Just have to wait and see what the nextgen consoles boast in terms of hardware.

[cannon8800]

it is in real time but when you move the model around, it changes into a less detailed model. and when you stop moving the model around, it goes back to the max detail that it had before.

[cannon8800]

All of these pictures are from models made using zbrush and perhaps mudbox too. Zbrush has hd geometry that enables artists to create models up to 2 billion polygons. There's no way that the next gen consoles will be able to run games in real time with characters that detailed. But at the same time, if they have a revolutionary breakthrough in computer graphics software, then "maybe" is a possibility. The only one that's actually running in real time, is the ninth picture with the unreal engine demo. And you can see that it's already not as detailed as the other pictures.

Here are some pictures of models using hd geometry:

http://www.zbrushcentral.co...
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http://www.zbrushcentral.co...

That last picture has so much detail that if you were to make a level on it, you would be able to walk inside the "valleys" that are actually the small cracks all over the skull because it has so much detail. None of that bump mapping stuff here.

This is a tech demo that uses tessellation and runs in real time. Anybody with a decent pc and a dx11 gpu, can run this demo. I have a gtx 460 and i can get over 60 frames per second at 1080p resolution, so i know that the ps4 and next gen xbox will totally be able to run games with this much detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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http://images.phxxgaming.co...
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I hope this makes all of you guys and gals very happy because the games that are going to be released for the next gen consoles will look amazing.

[yabhero]

WiiU is next gen too

[cannon8800]

sure it is

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Thank you cannon8800 for your non biased comment and optimistic opinion unlike PC and consoles crybabies. I am a general gamer. I play on any platform that has good games even mobile phones.

[yabhero]

I love how people disagree... whether or you like it the fact is the WiiU qualifies as a 8th gen system... the 3DS and Vita are 8th gen systems...

[aaaaaaaaa]

And if they throw this into the mix, ray tracing processing unit
http://www.tomshardware.com...
http://www.caustic.com/inde...
then we will see nex gen graphics

[Relientk77]

I like how the first 9 were like real things/possibilities

then comes #10 Smoke from Mortal Kombat

what? lol

[BX81]

The next gen consoles should at a minimum look like the High end pc graphics of this year. I understand that there is always going to be better looking stuff on the pc but I like the fact that I can buy one console and not have to worry about upgrading just because a new game came out. It'll be interesting to see what the next gen consoles are capable of.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

metro 2033 looks nothing like the storys pics, thats just wishful pc fanboyism.

xbox 3 will kick ass mark my words

[JsonHenry]

Those screen shots were taken in game. DX11+tesselation+advanced depth of field @ native 1920*1200 (or higher) rez. The game can and DOES look that good.

I've played it maxed myself so I speak from first hand knowledge. Too bad the game itself was not as good as its visuals though. :/

[Myze]

Yeah, Metro takes great pictures, but for every amazing pic, you can take another one that's borderline ugly.

It wasn't a very polished game and the gameplay was very basic. It was pretty good, but good screenshot material was it's only major strong point.

[Gazondaily]

I've played Metro on PC and believe me, it looks incredible. The pics in fact, don't even do it justice.

[Ck1x]

I like how people are considering both Microsoft and Nintendo as catering to the casual market simply because they choose not to go broke in giving you guys a high end PC in a box. So if Sony chooses to only make the PS4 a little stronger than both the Wii U and NextBox what will that consider them then? The next gen of anything has to be more than just putting more horsepower in it, that alone doesnt define a generation in gaming. Every generation, a new method of playing and interaction has been introduced, only PC gamers have been using a mouse and keyboard for eternity and still call it next generation gaming because the graphics are better. (The only thing i want to do with a keyboard and mouse is check out the latest sells on Amazon!) Remember gaming is a widely excepted form of entertainment now not because the PC market brought it there, but because console gaming has grown so much in a short amount of time...

[Hassassin]

Wii Play and Kinectimals seem hardcore to u? There are only few developers who prefer to make a better, high quality (more art-like) game, than to have lots of money in their pockets doing some cheap games that sell fast.

[Ck1x]

Please read all of the comments before you just respond blindly! My comment was to all of your fanboy alumni that were consistently barking that if Microsoft and Nintendo aren't willing to push the graphics barrier, that they are somehow catering to the casual market... what does anything that i just wrote above have to do with Wii Play and Kinectimals when we are talking about the next generation of consoles here!

[MWH]

mind the complexity of each scene in a game, it contains multiple objects to render with effects which i doubt it will display them all in such details.

but eventualy someone, sometime, will be able to play a game like this and better.

[KING85]

I think what you're asking is a bit unrealistic as for that to happen the graphics chips in next gen consoles would have to be insanely good, thus raising the cost of consoles. A high end PC would more than likely have a gtx 560ti/570 or amd/ati equivalent and up. To implement that type of technology in a console more than likely will raise production cost dramatically. A GTX 570 at minimum right now is $320 and up, so how much would a graphics chip cost for future consoles? They are pros and cons for implementing high end graphic technology in consoles as it does add value in improved graphics,A.I and such; however it can prove to be expensive. Which will consumers prefer is the question.

[Stealth2k]

art style over polygons

the day things are truely realistic I have no reasons to play games

[pandaboy]

why not? would you rather shoot people in real life or something? games are fun because we can do incredible things and be a part of a story that in real life is not possible.

[PopRocks359]

Mario Galaxy and Legend of Zelda already proved that you don't require a massive polygon count to look outstanding.

[lasersquash]

A law of the video gaming world

[Tonester925]

If you thought games are expensive now... we would really have to start coughing up more money. Or consoles will run $1,200 IMO

[ninjahunter]

Imagine this gen, in HD. thats what you should expect.

[torchic]

and 60fps.

[gypsygib]

Maybe in cutscenes.

I imagine next-gen will look like current ultra PC settings in 1080p (hopefully) or 720p.

[Vortex3D]

It's not the question if next gen consoles can produce graphics models that detail. It's the question how often game publishers are willing to spend the cost and time to have developers design such graphics. More detail models = more time to create it and more time to create it = more expensive. Since more artists are needed to create all the models in the game = more time + more artists = more expensive.

Even with current gen PS3 and X360 hardware can still produce details models but most games don't do it simply because of cost and time.

So, unless next game costs like $120 before DLCs, we just have to keep dreaming many next games have such detail models. Don't think so, ask yourself how the game publishers are going to pay for several times more work to make the graphics happen + the game itself. Then again, to many gamers, as long the next gen hardware spec looks incredible, they are happy to keep wishing. That's what keeps the new hardware selling. More wishing than actual results.

[TheOtherTheoG]

Not with a frickin' 6670, I think is the correct response.

[Motorola]

True dat

[lizard81288]

I can't wait to see this as real as possible

http://digitalbattle.com/wp...

[kramun]

There are probably many pubs and clubs you can go to and meet people who like to wear outfits like that if you are that way inclined. No need for high powered computers or consoles if that's what you're into.

Not really my cup of tea. To each their own though, live and let live and all that.

[lizard81288]

I was being sarcastic. I guess sarcasm doesn't translate too well on the internet.

[Almir908]

Okay this is kind of ticking me off but I'm just going to say it. Why are there PC fanboys rambling in every article? They're honestly among the most annoying. Every article not relating to PC gaming has some PC fanboy boasting how good graphics are and what not...The worst part is these type of comments get more likes than dislikes. Second, What is making everyone think Next gen is near? Sony plans a 10 year life span with their PS3 and Microsoft already stated they are not announcing the Next-box anytime soon. I don't mean to speak for others when I say this but I don't want next gen coming anytime soon. I already have plenty of home consoles and handhelds. I just don't want companies to stop supporting this gen gaming system because a new one is coming. Meaning another 600-700 dollars to dish out for a new gaming system. It's just too much man. And I know I'm going to get replies from Pc fanboys telling me to get a PC. No when I game on the PC it doesn't feel the same to me. I watch walkthrough's or shows on my PC while I game at the same time.

[Pandamobile]

Calm down, child.

Next-gen consoles will be here sooner than you think. We've needed a new set of consoles for years already.

[Almir908]

No...We don't.

[kaveti6616]

I don't think PC gamers can be fanboys.

The PC is a diverse platform. Consoles are closed and controlling. A PC contains components from so many different manufacturers that brand loyalty is almost impossible.

Consoles are either Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo, and usually console gamers don't have a clue about what the console guts consist of, so they're always speculating with BS.

PC gamers are above fanboy comments because it takes a little more intelligence to configure a PC than it does to press the "on" button on a console.

So, no. PC gamers may be elitist in nature, but they're on the money on pretty much everything they say.

Console gamers who make arguments like, "I don't like PC gaming because I prefer to sit on a comfortable couch and play with a controller" are far and away the stupidest kind of people. So stupid that you aren't sure if they're trolling or not.

[BitbyDeath]

One of the stupidist comments i've read in a while.

Kudos

[kaveti6616]

@bitbydeath

Your words have swayed me. -_-

Why don't you go lend your monetary support to another multi-billion dollar corporation, cheerleader?

[TUGA]

"PC gamers are above fanboy comments because it takes a little more intelligence to configure a PC than it does to press the "on" button on a console." Says the elitist PC fanboy. How in the hell knowing how to build a PC makes you in any way, shape or form smarter than a person who games on a console? Since when did intelligence began to be measured by the "ability" of building a PC? Do you even understand how judgemental, illogical and delusional you sound? What surprises me the most is that you're actually proud of it!!

[Imalwaysright]

@ BitbyDeath I disagree when you say that kaveti's comment is ONE of the stupidest comments. Ill say that is it THE most stupid and ignorant comment ive seen on N4G. Not even nasim or TheMart on their best days sounded so stupid and idiotic as kaveti. Congratulations Kaveti youve just introduced N4g to a whole new level of stupidity and ignorance.

[BitbyDeath]

@kaveti6616,

I don't like the term fanboys but you can get them anywhere and on anything and everyone is guilty of it at one time or another. For example politics or even religion are some of the larger groups for that kind of behaviour. PC is no exception.

[Zephol]

Doom 4 and Half Life 3 looks like this

[MoreRPG]

i hope the next gen games focus more on animation

[DragonKnight]

Remember when games were about gaming?

[urwifeminder]

Sorry going by the pic i thought Adrian Brody had a new movie out my bad.

[TABSF]

As proven by image 9 this can be done on PC right now, just developers are not taking advantage of the technology.

Can't see the next gen consoles being all that powerful if they come out this year, why?

Well HD 7970 ($550) is out and GTX 780 ($600) within 3 months meaning PS4 & NXB will have to use older hardware which is inferior giving the PC almost 2 year advantage.

If they come out sometime in 2013-14 they would be out before HD 8000 and GeForce 800 meaning they could compete with PC at least, but of course PC would still be superior.

You know what p!sses me off people that say we don't care about graphics but when next gen comes they love them.
They always say Game-play over Graphics or Art-style over Graphics. I say why can't we have them all.

[Hassassin]

I like tits

[closnyc]

they will never match the power of a hign end pc, specially by 2014 in which well have massive new video cards and 4gb vram will become a standard..

[ElementX]

I've never understood the point of these articles. Why speculate on something that's not even announced yet?

[WitWolfy]

I agree 100% Its like those idiotic articles predicting what next gen consoles will look like. Its just stupid sites like these that are just looking for easy clicks ... Bastards.

We get it Next gen is gonna be awesome!! I'll leave it to engines like UE4 ,Cry engine 2 and the notorious Fox engine to show me what to expect next gen.

[tubers]

Want to know next gen? It's always next gen on the PC xD Every 6 months xD

[bozebo]

Something almost that good could be rendered on it's own at very low fps with the most advanced DX11 features employed valiantly (look to crytek for that stuff). It wouldn't be practical in games though except for perhaps cutscenes (?).

The lighting can't be as perfect though because it is raytraced in those images.

But on PC in 5 years... I dread to think.

[frostypants]

I love how each slide reloads the ENTIRE page, rather than just a frame/iframe. F*ck you, gamingbolt. You're amateurs and click whores.

How have these hacks not been banned from N4G yet?

[krazeecain]

I have to say, why are we still using consoles? They just keep coming closer and closer to computers in functionality anyways. I think M$ and Sony should make cheap gaming computers instead, and get game studios to use them as a reference. That way they take priority in compatibility, but the games still work on normal computers. That way we can get rid of the stupid "exclusivity" of some games, and make them all compatible. I think it would also make things easier for developers (or at least the ones that make a PC port anyways...)

[sly-Famous]

I hate these articles especially since they always make graphics out the "be all and end all" of gaming, there are plenty of great looking games out there but most of them lack in gameplay, Crysis comes to mind, thats why I belive, first give me great gameplay before you give me a great looking game.

[Orpheus]

No they wont at 1080 p at 60fps if the rumors of Xbox 720 are true but if you consider 720 p and 30 fps, they just might.

The rumors say xbox720 is 6 times faster than XBOx360.

Current gen models use around 30k polygons after normal mapping.

According to the rumors they could have.

30 X 6 X 4 ( I multiplied by 2 to consider tessellation) 720 thousand = 0.72 million polygons.

The models in the images are all over 1 million polygons.
So at 720 p , 30 fps , they might just look like these 0.720 million poly is not too far from 1 million.

[moschops90]

that last pic was'nt really that next-gen tbh

[alb1899]

The ps3 used too many new features that made the too spensive . But today Blue ray, HDMI, Bluetooth and large hardrives are alot less spensive. That say now they can focus on the processor and memory.........next gen will be 8 or 10 times better than this gen:......look at Nintendo wiiu against Nintendo Wii andu you will see the difference.

[FinaLXiii]

Next gen ND´s game will look very much like that.