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Former Xbox Executive Applauds PlayStation First Party Games As “Bangers”

Former Xbox executive Mike Ybarra has applauded PlayStation first party games as “bangers” that are worth celebrating.

MrDead36d ago

Must be hard if you're passion is gaming and the company you work for only wants to purchase and lock away what's already there. Seeing what Nintendo, PlayStation and independent studios can do with far less recourses just makes MS very unappealing.

z2g36d ago

I don’t think it should be hard to be objective. It’s just being honest.

MrDead36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

That's not really what my comment's about.

ApocalypseShadow36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

How objective can he be? He's right. Most of those games Microsoft's has were 3rd party creations in production that Microsoft would have gotten anyway.

You trying to hide that fact is the actual bullshit we should worry about. Just because he said something nice about PlayStation doesn't change anything about what we already knew.

StormSnooper36d ago

I don’t think you guys understood z2g.

On topic: yeah, it would have been so bland without PlayStation’s amazing hits.

Babadook736d ago (Edited 36d ago )

@StormSnooper

“ I don’t think it should be hard to be objective. ”

Was a response to.

“ Must be hard if your passion is gaming and the company you work for only wants to purchase and lock away what's already there.”

Which was a response to

“ Former Xbox Executive Applauds PlayStation First Party Games As “Bangers””

(Among many comments by Ybarra)

Is that a correct understanding?

Cacabunga35d ago

I couldn’t agree more with him, but i hope Sony reveal some games in the near future

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GamerRN35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Actually, they purchased studios, but promised not to lock away any existing franchises. Only future, new IP.

In case you weren't sure... This is the same thing Sony has done for years and it's what got them where they are ...

Microsoft is just catching up with big studios Sony can't afford.

MrDead35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I'll make it easy for you, show me anyone in the industry spending over $80 billion on two publishers and I'll except your point... if not then this "This is the same thing Sony has done for years and it's what got them where they are" is pure BS.

GamerRN35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Ohhhh... My bad, so what upsets you is that they paid more than Sony can afford?

You DO realize most of Sony's 1st party studios started off as 3rd party studios, right? They purchased them a long time ago, and now you seem to forget that they grew in the same way Microsoft is today, just Microsoft has a much, much larger bank account....

It's not pure BS, it's a fact.

Naughty Dog was founded in 1984, acquired in 2001 by Sony. That's probably their main one, should I go on? It doesn't take much to Google and see for yourself. I think you need to brush up on your video game history young man...

MrDead35d ago

$80 billion on two multiplatform publishers filled with studios, MS is responsible for the biggest consolidation in the history of the industry and that's all you have as a response!?!... child go home, it's past your bed time.

GamerRN35d ago

So again, what upsets you is they bought more than Sony can afford? Sony, over the years, has purchased almost all of their studios. Microsoft just did it quicker and all at once.

I guess you really don't know your video game history...

Yes, Microsoft has made the largest single purchase in video game history. And Sony immediately bought Bungie to keep up. The below might not be the same, but Sony bought studios before Microsoft even got their feet wet in the gaming industry...

Abear2135d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Difference is Sony has helped build those studios and put them all under one umbrella that gets their support.

M$ clearly does not support their acquisitions or want them to grow like Sony does with theirs. Studios have been built up under Sony’s guidance, whereas M$ bought already established third party in the industry and is leaving them hanging, blowing in the breeze, as evidenced by Redfall—that Nintendo seal of quality or Sony oversight is clearly lacking when even their biggest game, Halo, wasn’t supported the way it should have been and just pushed out the door for money.
M$ doesn’t want to sell you high quality entertainment and enjoyment, the want you to buy into their ecosystem where you rent for perpetuity.

Do you see the difference now?

GamerRN35d ago

So you think Sony doesn't want you to buy into their ecosystem? You think they bought these studios and made first party exclusives diy any reason other than to get you to buy into their ecosystem? I hate to tell you, but it's the same thing. Sony has better PR right now due to fanboy mentality.

Also, Sony didn't communicate these studios, they grew. Come back in 10 years, since it took Sony 15 years for most of the studios to develop, and let's see where Microsoft is...

Honestly, the double standard is huge with fanboys.

Chevalier35d ago

"Also, Sony didn't communicate these studios, they grew. Come back in 10 years, since it took Sony 15 years for most of the studios to develop, and let's see where Microsoft is..."

Didn't you just mention double standards?! Why does Xbox get a pass for not developing the studios they own over the last 15 years then? Playstation studios and even Nintendo studios have developed light years ahead of Xbox studios and it didn't take them making $80 Billion in purchases.

Xbox studios have overall been pretty terrible in terms of quality over the same span.

Playstation and Nintendo developed or further developed new/old IP like Uncharted, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLOU, Xenoblade Chronicles, Fire Emblem, Zelda, Smash, Pokemon. Whereas Xbox in that same time has what Recore? Sea of Thieves? And AA IPs?

GamerRN35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I'm not casting a double standard, I'm asking you to give Microsoft the same time that it took Sony to develop anything worthwhile...

Also let's not forget they've closed studios and dumped staff also...

As far as developing new IP, Guerilla Games was purchased in 2005 by Sony. Horizon Zero Dawn was release 2017.

My point? Why don't you give Microsoft 12 years with these studios before you judge them? They aren't going to just shit out banger after banger... Even Bethesda dropped a few average games, but they still produced some solid games as well with Microsoft.

You are being very one sided.

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GamerRN35d ago

Since you don't know your video game history, here's a site that shows you all of their studios, and when they bought them. Please note the major ones, like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, all started off as 3rd party studios.

https://gameworldobserver.c...

Abear2135d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I get that and actually agree with you. Still, buying COD and Bethesda and Id is a little different than Guerilla or ND 15 years ago.

Plus, you are still Missing my point that Sony supports theirs while M$ does not.

Also, I lived through all of gaming history, I’m old! Bought Xbox in the past and probably will again, so yeah, that’s part of the reason I’m not supporting them now. They seem to not care about the day one product.

GamerRN35d ago

So your problem is that they bought studios that already proved their value? Well, that's why they paid so much instead of gambling like Sony did for years. Sony took a lot of chances because the competition was slim. Microsoft doesn't have the luxury of time, because fanboys are criticizing everything they do. Because of that, they have to spend larger amounts of money on studios that already have a proven value and IP because they don't have 20 years to let it grow, they have to catch up now!

MrDead35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

@ Abear21

A complete lack of understanding is used as their defence, one company grows industry while the other spends more than any other in the industry's history to consolidate a mammoth part of it.

It's like saying a brick is the same as a house.

Edit: actually just ignore him, looking down the comments it just seems like they are having one of those days.

GamerRN35d ago

So when Sony buys companies, and 15 years later they produce good games, they are growing the industry. When Microsoft buys companies, they need to produce a hit immediately, and already they are just consolidating the industry and killing gaming and locking up exclusives...

Well, that seems like the most double standard thing said on this thread...

neomahi34d ago

Naughty Dogs about to fall. Neil Druckmanns ego has gotten the better of him and it's put a choke collar on the dog. Naughty Dog, also, hasn't been able to stay out of the woke/political game going after a small audience that's stirring up the bigger audience they should have more interest in, and Druckmann knows better. His upbringing has taught him doing the right thing brings success and going against what you know is right leaves one to themself.

It's great Druckmanns had success with The Last of Us, but it's all about him at this point. Naughty Dog have had a set pattern, there's a formula as well to keep things fresh and that vision is dying, plus, Druckmann doesn't have an opposing opinion to balance him like Wells and Balestra or Gavin and Ruben had. Naughty Dog have been focusing on remakes and remasters and that's not what Naughty Dog does. They were the pride of PlayStation at one time but, Druckmann has a choke collar on his teams. Also, keep in mind TEAMS. Naughty Dog ought to have two games ready to go, one to announce and other waiting to support that one.

I don't think they're doing as well as you're giving them credit for

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LG_Fox_Brazil36d ago

I have yet to play Rise of the Ronin, but other that that, yeah, the PS5 is killing in this first quarter of 2024, I still can't get enough of Helldivers 2 and FFVII is probably a very strong contender to be GotY

Crows9036d ago

I've hear tremendous things regarding ff7 but yeah....helldivers 2 is keeping me really busy. Spreading democracy is hard work!

GamerRN35d ago

It is a surprisingly fun game.... I hope it holds my attention now than 6 months, I fear it might get repetitive faster than bigger games do...

Abear2135d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Oh I get it you’re a troll. Being paid by M$ or not getting laid, or both.

M$ puts their games on Gamepass day one to sway you to not buy the game but rent the service, Sony doesn’t do this. It’s safe to buy their games day one.

Microsoft’s problem isn’t the “fanboys” it’s the fact that blind loyalists such as yourself don’t realize the “fanboys” are responding to how M$ has moved.

Wake me up when they release something noteworthy from one of the giant can’t miss game companies they bought up.

Can’t wait to play another Doom or Elder Scrolls. Those will be the only games worth playing and I’m sure they won’t be as good as their past games because, as I’ve stated but you seem to ignore, they will get no support and probable be forced to release the game even if it’s not complete.

Crows9035d ago

@abear21

I assume you're talking about gamer RN

...

GamerRN35d ago

I'm a troll because I like Helldivers 2 and I'm worried if it's going to still be fun in 6 months?

Sony has multiple banger exclusives, which is why I have a PS5. God of War is still my favorite, although Uncharted is my favorite franchise. I still didn't finish TLOU or TLOU2, but I enjoyed what I played of the remake of the first one.

I still like GT over Forza, but I sometimes think it's a color palette thing. That being said, old GT is better than new GT.

This is how I know people are fanboys though... God forbid you say anything about Sony that isn't praise, and they come after you. Just buy both damn consoles and stop being such a troll yourself...

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phoenixwing36d ago

I'm loving rise of ronin alot more than i was expecting. the reviews didn't cover half the stuff the game does well.

Elda36d ago

I played Rise Of The Ronin this entire weekend, such a good game.

phoenixwing36d ago

@elda
I just got it yesterday and played at night and morning. I have off till Wed. To play it

Demetrius35d ago

I rarely compare games, folks got on my mf nerves with comparing it to tsushima, they're not even tryna be like that game, I'm definitely gone cope rise of ronin soon it looks fun af

shinoff218336d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I'm loving rebirth even remake. I'm also one of the ones that hate modern ff games. Ff7 trilogy is actually really dope.

I've got no interest in helldivers. I just don't play online games. Sounds good for those that do.

Bathyj35d ago

Not trying to convince you at all but I never played an online game either.

180 hours later

anast36d ago

Rise of the Ronin will approach cult classic territory.

Ironmike36d ago

I agree first few hrs are bit slow but when it gets going it's brilliant

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XiNatsuDragnel36d ago

Even xbox exceutives former or not knew playstation kept releasing bangers.

Tacoboto36d ago

Even Phil, when he's posted about playing PS titles.

It's undeniable that PS Studios lead the industry in consistency, even with the recent GaaS blunders except Helldivers 2

thesoftware73036d ago (Edited 36d ago )

While I do agree that Sony puts out bangers, the consistency part imo goes to Nintendo, they rarely, if ever put out bad games. The only thing that may make a Nintendo game seem weak is, another Nintendo game lol. Like Galaxy being better than Sunshine, Metroid prime being better than prime 3, ect.

Even their smaller projects are tons of fun.

Tacoboto36d ago

I've gotta agree. Luigi's Mansion and Metroid Prime are some of my favorite games of that generation, but Sony takes the crown for the narrative, deeper experiences that Nintendo doesn't try to venture into

Profchaos35d ago

No one is denying it Microsoft stated for years they would internally review PlayStation exclusive games and it's been shown that they would detail how incredible games like tlou are internally along with public tweets congratulating both Sony and Nintendo on their big launches like tears of the kingdom.

Abnor_Mal36d ago

Some people are not going to like this story, while others will do their best to avoid commenting.

notachance36d ago

lol take a guess of who’s disagreeing with you

Chevalier35d ago

I'm observing this conversation to see who you might be talking about. Intently watching.

lodossrage36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Well that's true Abnor

But look at it this way, this isn't the first time we heard what a former Xbox exec really thinks of Playstation. Remember when Peter Moore spoke about how obsessed Xbox execs were with Sony? He even OPENLY admitted that his company intentionally pushed the "console war" narrative to help sales

And before someone says I'm lying about that, here is Peter Moore's interview

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07...

italiangamer36d ago

Sony lives rent free in their head since December 3rd, 1994.

S2Killinit36d ago

They really do deliver the goods and consistently. You gotta love PlayStation even of you hate PlayStation.

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Saad from eXputer: "After Arkane Austin & Tango were shutdown, Xbox President Sarah Bond spoke with Bloomberg in what I believe to be utter corporate fakery."

gold_drake9h ago

im not really surprised by that, shes always been more a "let me talk about something else than what u want to know" kinda gal

Cacabunga1h ago

If what they are doing is that good, what’s the point of hiding the true story?

anast6h ago

She's a caricature of the shareholders.

PRIMORDUS4h ago

"Shareholders" I call them cancer, they are already rich to begin with but need more and more. It's like a disease, with no cure.

Leeroyw1h ago

I own shares in game companies. I'm not anything near a major share holder. I just want them to make good games and be successful because of that. I think it's the senior management that's the problem. They are the ones that should be making it clear to the shareholders what creates growth and ensures a future of their business. Not this weasle words garbage that she did on the interview. It was horrific. I don't know a shareholder that would be happy with any of them for this.

Profchaos43m ago(Edited 42m ago)

Same and I'm not rich by any stretch like most people's I'm just trying to keep my head above water these days most company's shareholders are made up of everyday people it's amazing how companies think we want something but the reality is we don't.

Disney are probably the worse at the moment it's shareholders voted on ending a lot of the crap and outing the current execs the execs turned around and said no we disagree with the shareholder vote

CrimsonWing696h ago

Yea, it was and it’s insulting that they think we’re dumb enough to fall for this. Look, the truth was you took a gamble on these studios and while they released some games to critical praise and great reception they just aren’t bringing in a ROI. Be transparent, you’re not a politician.

Just tell everyone you spend money on projects big and small and when money isn’t being made you go over the potential of revenue a studio can bring in vs those that can’t and make the hard decision to chop them.

She says this whole thing about “success” doesn’t fit one meaning for each studio. Well yea, a small budget production isn’t going to expect to sell the same as a large budget production.

One thing I wish they did though was let Tango be an independent studio.

TheGamingHounds5h ago

disheartening to see no regard for the human cost of business anymore
the bad decisions and judgements of these CEOs severely impact the frontliners
these fake responses are just salt on wounds

RoadRacer5h ago

imagine havin the audacity to say "we need more games like hifi rush" right after closing the studio that made it lol
followin up with this show of "deflecting every question" was in poor taste

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CrimsonWing696h ago

Alot’s changed in 25 years. We have games with $300 mill budgets, people not interested in games other than Fortnite and Minecraft, the older generation of gamers giving up the hobby or dying off, a period of super bad inflation where the industry decided to hike up prices on games, Gamepass harming game sales, GaaS games being pushed left and right with obnoxious monetization and worse looking/playing (Suicide Squad vs Arkham Knight).

The industry is just shite right now. Games ain’t selling, games cost massive amounts, businesses can’t bleed money and this is what happens. Part of it is on them and part of it is on consumers not buying.