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Sony Really Is Concerned About Microsoft's Xbox Strategy Following the Activision Blizzard Buyout

Amid the devastating data breach of Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 developer Insomniac, leaked slides have revealed Sony’s internal concern at competitor Microsoft’s emerging strategy following its $69 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

Some people on here told me that Sony isn't worried about the 3rd place console 👀

They got scared of Microsofts growing live service games
Like Sea of Thieves, Halo Infinite, Minecraft etc and now Call of Duty, Overwatch, World of Warcraft, Diablo 4 etc.

They called their own strategy outdated 👀
Looks like Xbox is ahead of the curve once again and Sony is trying to catch up. Hence the Bungie acquisition and the "12 game" live service strategy.

Number1TailzFan161d ago

Rumours they want to launch the next Xbox earlier than the next PS (not Pro) as well. Most likely they are feeling an earlier launch might be more successful, kind of like 360 vs PS3.

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

I think one disadvantage of that is that Sony could release a new console that's more powerful soon(2 years) after that.

However I think overall it will be good for Xbox to not put pressure on consumers to choose between Xbox or Playstation anymore when they have their own console release schedule. This way the nextgen Xbox will have 2 years to itself.
It gives consumers more breathing room.

That's one of the reasons Nintendo is successful as well. There was never a moment where consumers needed to choose between a Switch or a Playstation/Xbox during it's launch and inevitably compared. The Switch had 3 years where it was the only new thing.

crazyCoconuts161d ago

If the they're really selling 3X more XSS than XSX, with the low sales numbers, I can understand why they'd feel a Pro wouldn't be worth it. By the time 2026 comes along that might be more clear than it is now, we'll see

darthv72161d ago

Or it just makes sense to release on their own schedule. Not filling time with a mid gen system. If rumors of 2026 are true, that is a nice amount of time between it and the initial release of the Series line.

Profchaos161d ago

History tells us being first isn't always garunteed to win you that generation Dreamcast was first. The Atari Jaguar was first.

Remember all the advantages that the Jag and Dreamcast had

Lightning77160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

Apparently 2026 is when the next Xbox launches. Making it 6 years and shortest time since 7th gen transition.

@Zeref. If anything this gen taught me is that the whole power chasing narrative, its not that important. PS5 performs better here, Xbox performs better there. The game design overall isn't doing anything different except for RT here and there. That's the power narrative. We're just now seeing the power being taken advantage of with games like Alan Wake 2. I think most ppls imaginations when power get brought up for next gen is Super ultra realistic graphics, AI that's smarter than you and open world games that's 100% changing and reactive and dynamic with 120fps etc. When that's not hardly the case. In all honesty, it's just more work form the developers and even longer dev cycles. All PS and Xbox fans wanna do is beat on their chest about power, power that ultimately doesn't amount to much of anything, at least not these days not like they use to.

Xbox release a new console in 26, 2 years later PS releases their console in 28 then Xbox in 30 etc, etc, it's so pointless. Plus Series X 2 would have to play games on SS and SX1 so once again won't be seeing the advantages of that console. It's price gouging, longer dev cycles and almost pointless.

For reference sakes PS360 had a long and even annoying life cycle but said sequels of games looked much better. GTA4 to 5 way better. AC 1 to the last AC of that gen looked way better even COD MW1 to Advance Warfare is night and day.

Anyway this whole power chasing Sony and MS are doing is a joke at this point, there won't be anymore huge leaps anymore.

As of right now 2024 is looking overall kinda bleak in terms of overall releases, now that's sad. Where's all these powerful PS5X games?

shinoff2183160d ago

Hopefully they plan it better so we don't have another rrod issue.

crazyCoconuts160d ago

I think in short, Sony releases a pro model because they can and they believe enough customers want it to pay for it.
If MS doesn't release a pro it's either because they can't (of course they could) or because they don't think enough customers would pay for it... It's not because of some brilliant strategic move or because they can't be bothered with mid gen upgrades

Hofstaderman160d ago

@Lightning77 2024 for PS5 kicks off with FF7 Rebirth, nice try. Where have the games been for XBOX since 2011?

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Lightning77160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

@hof yeah you're not very bright. Your instant reaction you thought I was talking about PS. I'm talking about 3rd party overall PS5X means PS5 and Series X. You're, way, way too sensitive over your console holy crap. I guess it is the serious.

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crazyCoconuts161d ago

If being ahead of the curve is releasing mediocre games that you feel compelled to play because you're on a subscription model, then yeah, Xbox is ahead.
There's one problem though- anyone can do mediocre

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

No, ahead of the curve is their business model of being on PC, Mobile, Day and Date gamepass games, and successful multiplayer games. Sony agrees 😏

crazyCoconuts160d ago

Sony is also saying Day 1 releases are unsustainable and GamePass is losing lots of money, so I wouldn't say they want to copy the MS strategy based on the leak

JackBNimble160d ago

You seem to forget that Sony changed ps+ to reflect what games pass is doing almost identically other then day one. Then increased the price 30% ... Sony have been trying to do what MS has been doing for years.
The only difference is day 1 games and the fact that the price increase pushed a lot of ps+ subscribers like me away.

Jin_Sakai161d ago

Fake.

Xbox fans were making fake slides and throwing them into the Insomniac Games leak. How pathetic.

https://x.com/xmbgx/status/...

maniacmayhem161d ago

Lmao, MBG is your source that they're fake?

That's like getting confirmation that a 3 dollar bill is fake from a Unicorn

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

It's not fake. Every major website is covering this and you're taking the word of "MBG"?

Kribwalker161d ago

Definitely not fake. Might wanna check into that again

Jin_Sakai161d ago

Even if it turns out to be real wouldn’t it be pretty obvious they’re concerned about a 3rd party publisher being acquired for $69 billion?

Microsoft are concerned about Game Pass number and potentially exiting the gaming business in 2027 if growth doesn’t meet expectations.

thesoftware730161d ago

It is not fake,

They have cause for concern, no matter how we try to downplay MS, some of the games they have acquired make a lot of money and have long legs. Diablo is a good example, people on here rag on it, but both the cell phone game and console versions bring in crazy bank, and are played by millions of gamers.

Lightning77160d ago

MBG is one of in the biggest Sony fan boys out there, you have to be atleast a little, just a little smarter than that.

Kribwalker160d ago

and now MBG has deleted his tweet you linked 😂😂

Vengeance1138160d ago

@lightning

If you think MBG is at all a fanboy then you are truly lost and delusional. Maybe watch his content and learn something.

thesoftware730160d ago

🤣🤣🤣, the comment delete.

What a new low for a Sony fan...and you should apologize for reporting nonsense news and acting like it was true...wow mud on your face.

You guys are trying so hard to make this sound ok.

JackBNimble160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

This is exactly where fanboyism get's you, it just makes you look unintelligent.

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badz149161d ago

Sony not worried? Is that why they were fighting so hard to void the buyout? You only hear what you wanna hear, ha?

But maybe you're right. Sony has no worries about the distant 3rd place console nobody wants, they are worried that one of the trillion dollar club trying to gobble up the industry using the money the distant 3rd place console never earned!

Zeref161d ago

Never earned? 😂 😂 😂

badz149160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

@Zeref

Care to provide proof that xbox has made at least $79B in profit during this 2 decades that have allowed them to buy Mojang, Bethesda and ABK?

Hofstaderman161d ago

You are amazing. This doesnt change sales at all. It merely reiterates thay Sony is not going to sit on their laurels. MS is getting their asses handed to them so bad they cannot and will not even course correct from launching an all digital series X. Even if they reset the clock and launch a new console in 2026 which is highly doubtful, their time with consoles are done for. Accept it or not it will be an eventuality. They can eff around with mobile and PC, I dont care for those, just as long as consoles are not tainted by them any further. And no their exit will not result in a collapse where Sony can do what they want but it will open up a space for a serious contender who can actually do the space some justice.

Lightning77160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

By the way there is no other serious contender in the console space. No google, Amazon will never grow to a single console, Apple doesn't care. Even if someone steps up, you would cry and complain about them to. Has nothing to do with Xbox it's anyone who "threatens" your favorite little console and white knight for a 100b$ industry with all your might. That's sad lol.

For real you need to go outside and live life man. A single platform or a piece of Metal and plastic has you hard pressed and angry isn't a healthy obsession. Your life priorities need evaluating.

Eonjay161d ago

Sony was pretty vocal in their opposition to this deal. They were the most vocal in fact.

shinoff2183160d ago

Where you been though cause it looked like the live service games were kind of a jim Ryan thing. Have noticed some canceled games recently. And saying ms is ahead of the curve , seems to point at live service stuff. I'm alright with sony being behind the curve when it comes to live service games. I hope they stay behind on that front. Where they ain't behind the curve though is single player games. My only issue with that is I wish Sony would step up to make some rpgs, whether jrpg or wrpg something.

ChasterMies160d ago

Sony is much less worried about the third place console than it is about the trillion dollar company that can buy up all gaming publishers.

Christopher160d ago

***Some people on here told me that Sony isn't worried about the 3rd place console 👀 ***

A few months ago tons of people you're not talking about were using the fact that Sony said they weren't worried about the Activision merger, quotes from specific Sony emails, were proof why the merger should happen. Now, those same people are wondering why people were saying Sony wasn't worried when Sony themselves said that. In an email, btw. Not just through anonymous sources.

*** Looks like Xbox is ahead of the curve once again and Sony is trying to catch up. Hence the Bungie acquisition and the "12 game" live service strategy. ***

Man, if only Xbox could translate that curve advantage into actual sales and not, as Microsoft specifically said themselves, losing to the market leader that is Sony.

mrcatastropheAF160d ago (Edited 160d ago )

These businesses understand that this competition is a marathon not a race.

Sony sees the positioning resulting in leverage for MS and a potentially significant threat of loss of future market share in the future but the pony in you is celebrating them being the current market leader

S2Killinit160d ago

Now imagine what MS is worried about.

IRetrouk160d ago

Find the slide this article is based on in the leaked documents and post it here, bet you can't......
Infact if you can ill buy you a game on xbox.

Markusb33160d ago

i dont see how xb is ahead of any curve when their financial officer says they plan to be on all devices even previous competitors, meaning 3rd party publisher, who owns a service. Also xb dont even mention their own console in press or marketing its always GP. Hasnt this document been shown to have been created by someone via editing and its not actually real ? i see marvel needs 6 million sales to keep games exclusive, xb is out of luck there, since they dont believe in sales and only games played in a service, which means nothing.

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-Foxtrot161d ago

Maybe this is why Sony has slowly started to reel in its live service push. Why p*** off your fanbase with GaaS content which is a gamble whether it will be successful or not. If it wasn’t successful and MS grows bigger than most people will just get annoyed eventually and drift other places.

Better to double down on what they are good at.

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

According to the documents. Their single player games are not making enough money. Some of them don't break even. Only doing so when they sell 500 million dollars or more.

That is unsustainable. No wonder they wanted to pivot to live service so hard.

Some people on here were too busy worried about Xbox instead of buying games like they said they do.

I've also seen that Playstation games sell horribly on Steam. With their most sold game being Horizon Zero Dawn at 3 million and Sack boy the lowest at only 62k. All because they're not day and date launches. Even Spiderman flopped on Steam with Spiderman Remastered at 1.3 million and Miles Morales at 450k.

Day and Date PC Playstation games are coming sooner than later.

I've seen somewhere they were even debating raising the price of games to 80-100 dollars.

https://www.threads.net/@ha...

purple101161d ago

1. they said their worried about cod in 2027 , so they know something were not privy to

2. only ratchet and clank (ps5 launch game during shortage) didn't make money, the rest did.

CrashMania161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

Calling all those PC releases flops is just innaccurate and gives no context, sure sackboy is yikes, but some of these released years later after they sold many millions on console already, but you will of course ignore that conveniently.

I don't think day and date PC ports are any 'solution' to what you claim, unlike MS, Sony don't want to gut their console base. I can imagine most of those ports besides the obvious Sackboy made a bit of extra cash on the side, Playstation revenue and profits seem to be fine. They didn't have to spend 80 billion to move up a space or two on that ladder.

Also shame on IGN really, poking the 'console war' fire among these awful leaks, I think any competitor would be concerned at a rival throwing dozens of billions around to try force gaming down a drab, live service subscription, streaming only future.

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

@purple101

1. Not sure what you're talking about

2. I said they didn't make ENOUGH money. Not that they're not making ANY money. Spiderman 2 only making 75 million. Is not nearly enough profit. That is damn near a flop financially.

isarai161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

Where are you getting that 75mil is " not enough" profit? 🤔

derek160d ago

Just ignore Zeref, he/she has a need for the "Sony is failing and having their worst year" fud to be true.

Mr_cheese160d ago

@zeref, clean your room mate, must be ectoplasm everywhere the way you're going on

Markusb33160d ago

they all made money, even the ratchet report was fake, its been confirmed what the budget was and how many it sold, plus a game that is not successful doesnt get a sequel and Ratchet is listed as a new title in development.
This is why xb games dont get sequels, they have been programmed to say buying games is wrong, dont support your hobbie, support your company by paying for a service. Redfall awful, starfield mediocre, halo awful, they own more studios than anyone and have more money than anyone and still cant release high quality, critically successful and financially successful games.

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Gazondaily161d ago

Sony is shook! Damn man. They in turmoil

Kribwalker161d ago

I Thought sony wasn’t concerned with xbox or their sub services/games. Also that nobody likes call of duty either

Lie detector test has determined those were both lies

Outside_ofthe_Box160d ago

December 19 2023. The greatest day of your life!

IRetrouk160d ago

Yall need to stop doing this you yourselves man, every year we hear the same shite from yas🤣

Good show with oti the other day though septic, thrash too, props for that.

Kakashi Hatake160d ago

And it only took MS buying the biggest yearly selling game 😒 *claps * Let's reward a company that has zero vision and just throws money around.

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Einhander1972161d ago

Well obviously it's a big concern for them.

This shouldn't even be surprising, less surprising than the fact that Sony is outselling xbox 3:1 even when xbox is taking huge losses per console and in the year that was supposed to be their big comeback, on top of being down YoY after COVID.

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AdonisIsBeast161d ago

Then buy a major publisher as well Sony. Spend some money to compete.

Zeref161d ago (Edited 161d ago )

They don't have the money to do so. They had to take out a loan just to buy Bungie.

When Matt Booty said "we are going to outspend Sony". This is what he meant 😭

Destiny1080160d ago

taking out loans, is standard practice for giant cooperation's, google / apple / microsoft all do it, it has nothing to do with how much money they got

DickyD1226160d ago

Bro how insecure are you that you comment on EVERY comment? We all get it you don't like Sony go back to your Xbox hole and let the rest of us enjoy gaming.

MrDead160d ago

Why? PS is the lead platform for console multiplats, why would you buy a publisher that already releases games on your system?

recoctimocassirnff160d ago

"Then buy a major publisher as well Sony. Spend some money to compete."

Attitudes like your are terrible.

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

-Foxtrot1d 3h ago

RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga1h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

Knightofelemia1d ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord6h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

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Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks Was Working On 2 Games Before Studio Closure

Tango Gameworks, the developer behind rhythm-based action game Hi-Fi Rush, had been working on 2 games prior to studio closure.

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H97h ago

That's for people who said that Ninja Theory would not get closed because they are working on a new game

1Victor1h ago

Well Microsoft have to plug the holes somehow to appease their investors 🤷🏿

darthv721h ago

Tango was part of Bethesda, that was their call. Ninja is their own thing, and MS lets them do their own thing. MS may own Bethesda, but they let them make their own decisions.

porkChop1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

That is technically true. I do think Xbox can still come in and make those kinds of decisions if they want to though, but it's true that Bethesda has been running themselves. That's how we ended up with Redfall in the first place.

I wouldn't let Xbox off the hook though because they obviously would have known that Bethesda were shutting them down and let them do it. Xbox could have just moved Tango directly under Xbox Game Studios instead.

darthv721h ago

We can only assume as much since we dont fully know the conditions of their partnership. It may be that Bethesda agreed to the merger under the conditions that they still be allowed some autonomy like making decisions for game releases and studio management. Again, that's just a guess but when i see people try and convey that Ninja Theory is in the same boat as Tango... this is what comes to mind. NT is their own entity, under direct management of MS. Tango was not.

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Metal: Hellsinger dev says he is against Game Pass after seeing how it affects sales

Founder of Metal: Hellsinger studio says he wasn't against Game Pass until their game launched on Microsoft's service, which affected game sales.

TheProfessional11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable? PS Now was before gamepass but it was streaming trash that no one had any interest in.

And honestly the way the industry releases overpriced and broken games with day one season passes and dlc who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall. If it's from an indie studio that needs the sales that's different but games published by larger companies are fine on a subscription model. Also any of these devs who complain did decide to put their games on gamepass in thr first place.

ocelot079h ago

Ahhh yes the typical but but but Sony in a Microsoft article.

When did Sony copy Microsoft? I havent seen Sony's big day one titles such as God of war Ragnarok or GT7? Do you want to know why they are not on the service? Because people are still willing to PAY for the games. Sony has already admitted they lost millions putting Horizon Forbidden West and Ratchet & Clank on PS+ Extra.

"larger companies are fine on a subscription model" Oh really? So why is all the cod games yet to be on it? Where is elden ring? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Street Fighter 6? Boulders Gate 3? Alan Wake 2? Where are they of gamepass is great and big publishers are fine putting newer games on it?

I'll tell you where they are. They are currently still selling for their respected publisher's. You know actually making them money. That money they can use to fund the next project.

who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

I'm one of the millions who much rather pay $70 so fully support the publisher. Why do we do this? Well for starters I rather just pay for it rather than keep renting it each month. If we all just kept renting years ago blockbuster would still be around. Secondly, I rather we have AAA titles in 10 years time to enjoy. Rather than play mobile quality crap from a subscription.

Tell me how this is a good thing for gaming going forward. The last time I subbed to Gamepass was October 2023. During that one month subscription I played the newly released Starfield, Forza and a few other titles. All for the cost of about $7. Since then Microsoft have not released anything I want to try out or put anything on GP I want to try. So they last made $7 from me 8 months ago.

In the last 3 months. I have bought Sea of Thieves on PS5 (earning MS more money on that than my 1 month subscription to gamepass). Resident Evil 4 for £20 and Diablo 4 for £25 (again earning MS more buying this than buying a sub). Tell me how it's best for gaming I pay $7 and play the latest and greatest for a month. Rather than just buying what I want even if it means waiting a few months and getting it cheaper than full price yet earning the publisher more than renting said games of a monthly sub.

darthv722h ago

...but didn't this game leave GP and then join PS+?

If a sub service is so bad, why get into another one right away?

Cacabunga1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Finally devs waking up! More will follow .. reminds me of capcom during PS3,360 era almost going bankrupt they released extremely poor games because Xbox gave them paychecks not to release them on PS3 for as period. Sales were terrible and they went away from that.

Hofstaderman9h ago

Sony has never released new titles day one. They experimented with Forbidden West which was fairly new and quickly discovered that it cannabalized sales. XBOX gamepass was always an act of desperation to remain relevant and in their desperation they effectively dug their grave where today everybody is biding their time for their formerly exclusive titles. In a nutshell GamePass made XBOX not relevant.

Plague-Doctor272h ago

It wasn't desperation. Subscription Models had a very different outlook in 2017 and then with the gaming surge during COVID reaching critical mass seemed more and more possible.

Phil convinced Satya to chase a trend and it hasn't worked out

lellkay8h ago

Literally dev who put game on gamepass:
It's not good

TheProfessional: but but sony but sony

S2Killinit7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Sony didnt copy MS. MS copied Sony, then MS went on to make xbox a subscription device. Remember that part? Yeah.

MrNinosan7h ago

You're not too bright, right?

First of all, Sony didn't copy Microsoft regarding PS+ and GamePass, which you admit to early in your comment, but with some faults. PSNow was not only streaming.
The mentality at Xbox gamers, is to NOT buy games, because they are used to get it on GamePass, preferbly day 1 like with all Xbox Studios games.

This is not a thing at PS+ and never was.
Sure there was plenty day 1 games on PS+ like, Rocket League, Stray, Sea of Stars, Tchia, Operation Tango etc, but those didn't take away from gamers that it was more like a "bonus" than a "thing".

Playstation gamers buy games, a lot of games and PS+ has been proving to be way better for business than GamePass, both by actually having more subscribers but also no eating up sales.

dveio7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

"Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall.“

How can you possibly come to this conclusion?

First, you pay for a subscription.

Then download games. But games will eventually leave the service. You will again need to buy them if you want to play them ever again. Or if you cancel your subscription. Right?

Eventhough this may NOT have an effect on every subscriber, this IS in fact the economical motiviation behind the service like GP.

If you are not already paying "double" this way, you pay at a 1.2 or maybe even at a 1.5 ratio eventually than opposed to simply buying the game in the first place.

As I said, this maybe doesn't apply to every subscriber. But this doesn't erase the fact of this business model existing. And possibly keep growing.

It's driving me nuts at times that especially the die hard Xboxers seem not to understand what they are actually cheering for foolishly.

The Wood6h ago

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders

The Wood6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders. on top of that it seems more devs on top of the devs that have shunned the service are not seeing the value of subs vs actual sales. Sell first, sub later works better than sub off the bat. MSGaming has a major sea change decision to make regarding COD. Do they release it dod and lose a high portion of up front revenue or either up the price of gp on the whole or create an even higher sub tier to cushion the blow or don't release it on gp at all and potentially damage the good will gesture reiterated not too long ago. The acquisition money wasn't free money....they'll have to pick their poison

anast4h ago

"Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable?"

They didn't copy GP. They aren't dumb enough to put their exclusives day 1.

"Who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?"

People who don't like to rent things.

outsider16242h ago

It's funny when he says who wouldn't pay for a subscription instead of paying 70$. Well no shit...if MS keeps releasing average titles who wouldnt..🤣

Cockney56m ago(Edited 50m ago)

The reason is playstation didn't copy anybody and they don't release broken games, their games are still not day 1 and Ps players still buy games so ps+ is just an option for those that want a subscription service, the fact playstation doesn’t push it front and centre should tell you a lot.
On xbox gamepass IS front and centre with an option to buy games on the side, look how that is panning out for them!
Xbox fans are the only ones trumpeting this from the rooftops

shinoff21830m ago

Weren't we able to download ps3 on ps3 and ps4 on ps4 systems back then I really don't remember.

Truth is Ms still copied Sony and made a couple adjustments. One adjustment being day one games which clearly has been xboxs issue hence the ps5 releases, and they groomed the base to not buy games.

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Skuletor11h ago

I feel no sympathy for the guy, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting your game on gamepass would affect sales.

JEECE5h ago

Seriously, how is it that devs need one of their games to bomb in sales due to Gamepass for them to realize what so many people could easily predict? Like people joke about "armchair CEOs" on here, but at least with respect to the effect of Gamepass, we keep seeing that the armchair CEOs are actually smarter than the real heads of these indie studios.

dveio9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

The 'day-one' feature is the breaker or maker with GP, business-wise.

GP is no Netflix.

Because, from all the Marvel's Avengers to Sicarios, illustratively speaking, they all had their box office money. Before they had entered Netflix.

This concept shows you what Microsoft have actually put themselves into.

And what situation studios put themselves into if they go day-one into GP.

solideagle4h ago

GP/PS Extra day one is best suited for GAAS or free to play games

truthBombs9h ago

Why not sell your game the traditional way first? Then after about 6 months to a year put it on a sub service.

Day one on gamepass is a gamble. It works for some (Pal world) and not for others.

anast4h ago

It's the old psych. experiment. Set out some candy and tell the person they can have it all now, or if they wait, they can have double the amount. Most choose the first option, then complain when it doesn't work out for them.

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