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Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If GP Subscribers off Console Don't Increase Enough by 2027

Microsoft's Phil Spencer said in testimony that the company may exit its gaming business if Game Pass subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot by fiscal year 2027.

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Vits239d ago

Yeah, hopefully, we don't see that happening.
Otherwise, we will get "Sony's you need two jobs to afford this back".

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blackblades239d ago

Last time it was they might be leaving the console business and maybe be 3rd party like Sega. Which would be a better option in IMO considering the studios they have now. Sell the games on PlayStation, Nintendo and steam, as well cloud gaming on other devices

bloop239d ago

I've been thinking this myself. How long can they keep pumping all this cash into Xbox and Gamepass with no real return? They'd be much better off becoming 3rd party and getting their games, and even GP, on as many devices, including competitors consoles at this stage.

blackblades239d ago

Those leaked documents showed how much it cost or could cost for a game to be on game pass. It's kinda expensive from the looks of it.

Palitera238d ago

@bloop
They have nearly infinite money, enough to knock a competitor like Sony out of the market.
That’s how long.

bloop238d ago (Edited 238d ago )

I didn't mean that in a literal sense Palitera. Business is business and it doesn't matter how much they have in the bank. They're in this more than 2 decades now, spanning 4 generations and have only had relative success with one console, the 360, which was partly due to the PS3 release being delayed multiple times. They've finished last every time so someone's going to pull the plug eventually. Snapping up all these publishers and developers is a desperate last move in trying to stay in the game. They'd be better off going 3rd party at this rate, unless Series consoles literally start flying off shelves.

FinalFantasyFanatic238d ago

I don't think they even want to be in the hardware business, although it's strange they make so many Xbox controllers (but they also make for good PC/Steam controllers as well).

jeromeface238d ago (Edited 238d ago )

@palitera what a foolish take @bloop you think MS doesnt want GP on ps5? LOL

blacktiger237d ago

last time was a rumor, this one is coming from phil spencer

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crazyCoconuts239d ago

Is having them still in business, but NOT buying up the entire gaming industry an option? That's what I want...

-Foxtrot239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

To be fair people always go on about that quote from Sony in the wrong way

They didn’t say it in a way like “tough shit, get two jobs if you want it” it was “this thing is so good you’ll WANT to get two jobs” . Still cocky as f*** but no where near as bad.

GamerRN239d ago

..... it's just as bad.

Popsicle239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

It was a comment filled with hubris and it haunted them at the beginning and near the middle of gen 7.

Kayser81238d ago

@-FOXTROT
oh it was bad like here is a quote from ken kutaragi :
(On PS3's price) "It's probably too cheap."
(On PS3's price) "We want consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one.'"
yeah it was bad and they have learned their lesson , that same with microsoft with xbox one and nintendo with the WIIU .
and the reason is because of the competition .

StarkR3ality239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

@Vits

Wish more people thought like you. The same people complaining about Xbox buying up the industry are the same people who would happily see Xbox gone and Playstation the only option. It's laughable.

Less competition = Worse deal for gamers.

Popsicle239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

It baffles me that gamers do not understand the importance of competition. Granted I see Microsoft’s vision for gaming as dystopian for consumers, but without competition, Sony would have less incentive to provide the absolute best content and services. There would be nothing to keep their decision making in check from a consumer perspective.

I wish Microsoft would revert back to the OG Xbox and 360 days because I do not see their current vision of having gamers own nothing and rent everything as being desirable or sustainable.

StarkR3ality239d ago

Agreed, I don't even own an Xbox but to say they shouldn't be in business is stupid, Sony have already showed this gen and the PS3 gen what overconfidence does to a corporation.

There's an air of arrogance about them that I simply do not like, that would be worse by tenfold if Xbox wasn't in the picture, you can take that to the bank.

shinoff2183239d ago

Stark, what has Sony done this Gen that's arrogant

Huey_My_D_Long238d ago (Edited 238d ago )

@starkR3ality.
I don't agree with your first sentences at all, although the last one is on point. . I have a PC and PS5, been a playstation gamer since PS1. I don't want MS to get out because competition is good for both companies... but the tactic of buying up the industry itself is an anticompetitive tactic.
What will happen to the majority of the studios if MS does leave? How many can sell off and which studios will have to be closed down.
...Although I will say Embracer group is far more problematic for the gaming industry right now than MS...Selling with MS, you have at least a couple years...Embracer will buy you and shut you down within a year.

Huey_My_D_Long237d ago

Love PS, but you are not lying. The arrogance in PS3 days was the worst. and I do think Sony would return to it if they didnt have any competitors..I know nintendo, but they are just too different for Sony to progress because of them

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PhillyDonJawn239d ago

Facts when 1 remain we all lose.

MrBaskerville238d ago

If ms leaves, Amazon, Apple or Google will step in.

jeromeface238d ago

apple would push thing forward hard but charge you a car price to do it.

WelkinCole238d ago

Every shitty business strategy we have had in gaming is because of MS.

The best gaming console generations (PS1,PS2) is when Sony was the most dominant

So no

Miraak82 238d ago (Edited 238d ago )

That's how I've always felt , I mean steam basically dominates the pc market and Nintendo has handhelds and no one seems to have a problem with it . Why do people feels like Sony always has to have a competitor in the console space , out of all the gaming spaces why (Pc, Handheld,Mobile,Console) only Sony has to deal with MS's BS for the sake of competition. This isn't 25 years ago like when you had just Consoles on the market from everyone,

MrDead238d ago (Edited 238d ago )

Problem is MS doesn't want to or need to compete.

MS buying up publishers means less competition in who makes games, a higher entery cost to anyone that wants to enter the console market because of less third party publishers, we also have found out plans for what they want with Nintendo.
MS are not good for the industry, at any point they have the money to lock away huge chunks of it that competing platforms really on.

F0XH0UND922238d ago

That was a person building hype for a console, not Sony. It's so weird how people still try and use that as a gotcha moment.

Soulsborne238d ago

M$ bleeds you dry , and gives zero in return. Your little netflix of games isnt all that profitable afterall.

Flakegriffin238d ago

Or even worse; we would go from one Sony studio exclusive a year to 1 Sony studio exclusive every two years lmao

Rynxie237d ago

No, I hope it does happen. MS is trying to change the gaming industry for the worst. They are a cancer to the gaming industry. I just hope they do leave the business and another manufacturer steps in, so there's still competition to keep pushing the industry forward.

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jesujohn239d ago

Don't you stone-hearted guys feel pity for them? You must all subscribe to GP asap.

Magog238d ago

Which is exactly why they are awful for the industry. They don't want to succeed at making good games or good hardware all they care about is subscriptions. It's been true of Microsoft for decades.

CptDville238d ago

Moreover, they are forcing us to subscribe by slowly but steadily stopping physical game sales. And a lot of people don’t even see it coming (most here on N4G won’t even believe that I can’t buy physical disc of Starfield on my country - Brazil - I’ll have to spend 180 USD on Amazon to buy it from Us if I really want to).

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italiangamer239d ago

They could leave this very second, one less toxic company to deal with.

DarXyde238d ago

With a replacement, I wouldn't mind.

Nintendo isn't in the same space really and it would be great to have a competitor that is similar financially to Sony —no more of these ridiculous trillion dollar imperialist corporations, please.

Who would that be? No idea. Samsung, perhaps? I think that would be great.

I despise Microsoft. Deeply. That said, leaving the market with Ryan at the reins of PlayStation is asking to get the George Carlin "customer service" treatment.

Outside_ofthe_Box239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

So GamePass is in fact their last resort.

Aloymetal239d ago

Yes GP is their last resort, either that or buy most of the gaming industry forcing their way. MS tried to compete with PS for the last 20 yrs but they realized a while back that they just can't defeat that huge and loyal fanbase PS (and Ninty) have ALL OVER THE WORLD. GP is already 7 yrs old and hasn't changed anything in their favor.

MrDead239d ago

Unfortunately for gamers and competition MS sees an industry it can just buy and lock away behind GamePass, I'm hoping this fails.
The problem is MS has never shown any interest in it's own platform, they like the money that comes from gaming but don't want to contribute. A company the size of MS has very little care for doing well in this industry because just doing well doesn't bring the returns for company of that size, they need to dominate in order to raise MS stock price.
...also it helps that MS don't need Xbox, as it stand right now if Xbox disappeared it would barely be noticed by them.

sagapo238d ago

Wouldn’t say they never showed intrest honestly. The first and especially the 360 era were great as MS try to beat PS with their own exclusives. And they had great ones, you can’t deny this. But after that MS screwed up and tried a different approach with Gamepass, which cleary isn’t working.

Rynxie237d ago

@sagapo

No, MS never cared about the industry, they cared about the money. They showed their true colors with the release of the Xbox one and their outrageous anti-consumer policies. They shot themselves in the foot. However, as blind xboys fanboys are failing to see, MS is still trying to push their digital only, online only, no physical copies, no game trading/selling unless MS gets their cut policies back. They are just trying a new approach.

ChasterMies239d ago

Xbox sells enough to stay in business. But you know how these companies work. Why run a business that is merely profitable? They want that sweet monopoly like they gave with Office and Windows, and they see the subscription service and acquisitions as the way to get there.

blacktiger238d ago

thats why they said if gamepass fail, they are out. Seem you and Microsoft has two different take.

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XCOM's Jake Solomon Q&A - Building a Narrative-Driven Life Sim Game at Midsummer Studios

XCOM and Marvel's Midnight Suns director Jake Solomon has founded a new studio to make a life sim game. Here's a new interview with him.

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The Big Inworld AI Q&A - 'Everyone in Gaming Sees the Potential of Generative AI'

Wccftech interviewed Nathan Yu from Inworld AI to discuss the dynamic NPC tech's applications to games as well as potential issues like costs.

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Xbox President Sarah Bond's Bloomberg Interview Is Corporate Fakery At Its Best

Saad from eXputer: "After Arkane Austin & Tango were shutdown, Xbox President Sarah Bond spoke with Bloomberg in what I believe to be utter corporate fakery."

gold_drake1d 11h ago

im not really surprised by that, shes always been more a "let me talk about something else than what u want to know" kinda gal

Cacabunga1d 4h ago

If what they are doing is that good, what’s the point of hiding the true story?

anast1d 8h ago

She's a caricature of the shareholders.

PRIMORDUS1d 6h ago

"Shareholders" I call them cancer, they are already rich to begin with but need more and more. It's like a disease, with no cure.

__y2jb14h ago

If you have a pension then you are likely to be a shareholder in these big tech companies yourself. To demonize them as 'heartless rich people' shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

anast12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

@Y2

Of course, it isn't about that. You are attempting to set up a self-righteous strawman to stir up some kind of ignorant mob mentality.

And by the way, most everyone is a touch heartless or we wouldn't be able to consume the products we do knowing very well how they are made. People have to be this way because of self-preservation and convenience.

__y2jb10h ago

@anast please explain to me how what i said is self righteous or a strawman. I simply pointed out that categorizing all shareholders as cancer is ridiculous.

Leeroyw1d 3h ago

I own shares in game companies. I'm not anything near a major share holder. I just want them to make good games and be successful because of that. I think it's the senior management that's the problem. They are the ones that should be making it clear to the shareholders what creates growth and ensures a future of their business. Not this weasle words garbage that she did on the interview. It was horrific. I don't know a shareholder that would be happy with any of them for this.

Profchaos1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Same and I'm not rich by any stretch like most people's I'm just trying to keep my head above water these days most company's shareholders are made up of everyday people it's amazing how companies think we want something but the reality is we don't.

Disney are probably the worse at the moment it's shareholders voted on ending a lot of the crap and outing the current execs the execs turned around and said no we disagree with the shareholder vote

PRIMORDUS22h ago

I meant at the rich fucks who have millions in the bank already. They are making so much per year, that if they don't make what they are expecting they go into a panic, when in reality it will not even hurt them at all. Those are greedy assholes.

anast13h ago

"you have a pension then you are likely to be a shareholder"

Pensioners don't make any decisions about anything. Obviously that is not what this is about.

CrimsonWing691d 8h ago

Yea, it was and it’s insulting that they think we’re dumb enough to fall for this. Look, the truth was you took a gamble on these studios and while they released some games to critical praise and great reception they just aren’t bringing in a ROI. Be transparent, you’re not a politician.

Just tell everyone you spend money on projects big and small and when money isn’t being made you go over the potential of revenue a studio can bring in vs those that can’t and make the hard decision to chop them.

She says this whole thing about “success” doesn’t fit one meaning for each studio. Well yea, a small budget production isn’t going to expect to sell the same as a large budget production.

One thing I wish they did though was let Tango be an independent studio.

TheGamingHounds1d 7h ago

disheartening to see no regard for the human cost of business anymore
the bad decisions and judgements of these CEOs severely impact the frontliners
these fake responses are just salt on wounds

RoadRacer1d 7h ago

imagine havin the audacity to say "we need more games like hifi rush" right after closing the studio that made it lol
followin up with this show of "deflecting every question" was in poor taste

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