PSVR 2 - Stuck in Neutral?

The PSVR 2, six months after launch is stuck in neutral and remains a niche accessory. The PSVR 2 needs AAA games to move more units.

[ARESWARLORD]

As much as I think it's a cool system it seems really dead on arrival

[fr0sty]

you obviously don't own one. I can't even start to finish all the games I have in my backlog for it.

[JackBNimble]

I think the point is that there are not enough psvr2's owned to ever justify any dev/publisher to create any AAA games.

I get it not everything needs to be AAA but there is no way I'm buy a $500 system that has few AAA and mostly indies.
I live in Canada so a psvr2 is actually $750 , not worth it for me at the moment

[thorstein]

There was an article a few months ago that said the exact opposite of this article.

Quote: " I was getting concerned about PSVR 2 — but Sony just reassured me about its future

PSVR 2 is selling well and the games are coming"

[gleepot]

thats because you dont finish the games in your backlog for it

[peppeaccardo]

got all the exclusive games and having a blast ... I also own a PC with rtx 4090 and PICO VR and I have to admit that the PSVR2 is a glorious piece of tech !!!
Game On and screw the haters !

[mandf]

You no clue. They have announced morre games then you realize. Vr makes games better. If you have tried it you just don't know.

[PapaBop]

DOA? My friend has done nothing but talk about it over the last week. The new Firewall game, Crossfire which supposedly feels like Time Crisis VR, Resi 4 VR around the corner.. alongside existing titles like Villiage and GT7 which are supposedly some of the best VR games .

[EvertonFC]

7th guest soon too and Tin hearts look great ☺️👍

[S2Killinit]

If you actually use it yiu will realize that it has more compelling exclusive must have games than you realize. The curse of VR is that people dont know how good it is.

I challenge you to find a better racing game than GT7 in VR.

[TheLordOfStuff]

You clearly don't own one then lol

[Tzuno]

Just like PS5, is collecting dust, barely any exclusives come out

[Crows90]

So what was Xbox when it released with no exclusives for it?

Games take time to make.

[northpaws]

Bought it on Day One, while there are some good games here and there, it badly need first party support.

[jwillj2k4]

Same exact problem as psvr1.

[Snookies12]

And the Vita...

[ravens52]

Exactly.

[Babadook7]

It will get 1st party support.

That being said. There are quite a few incredible experiences that beat any game I’ve played this gen on a flat screen.

1. RE8
2. GT7
3. Red Matter 2

Looking like an amazing start to an amazing product.

I play it every day.

[EvertonFC]

H:cotm
Switchback
Res village
Firewall ultra also exclusives and the firework game fantasia or something?

Hoping for a 2k or EA golf VR update myself

[PunksOnN4G]

We got PSVR day 1 my dad to this day still uses it just about every single week. We were going to buy PSVR2 day 1 but mst the titles we own and he owns alot did not get ported the ones who did offered no upgrade path or free version and they were marked full price again. We both decide not to get it

[Leeroyw]

I had psvr1 and it gathered dust. Wanted to love it. I have psvr2 and whie I agree that it needs more games I do play it every chance I get. I love it. But I wish it just had more converted games like re8 and bulletstorm. I don't want shovel wear and arcade experiences with a gimmick. I love vr. There's nothing quite like it.

[Babadook7]

Try Red Matter 2.

[PunksOnN4G]

Yep my dad loves it cuz he felt gaming been the same for so long. Now he uses it all the time. We will get one way down the road not anytime soon though...

[Leeroyw]

I wasn't going to try red matter 2 and it was expensive for the hours I played. But...
BUT... You're absolutely right. I haven't felt such a sense of scale and perspective in a game that it honestly goes down in my top 20 game experiences of all time. You are bang on.!!

[ApocalypseShadow]

Bullshit. These same individuals have not said anything about Valve, HTC, Pimax, Facebook, etc having AAA games for those headsets and they've been out longer. No articles whatsoever. Anything about GTA on Quest or Creed release date? Nope.

Sony launches at the end of February and comes out with GT7 and RE8 right off the bat. Creates a game based on a hot franchise which is Horizon. And we know games like RE4 Remake VR are coming which is AAA. Go to the PlayStation Blog and games are announced weekly for PS VR 2. Which match PC graphics and are better looking versions that Quest 2 could ever display on its own.

Do they ask on why PC and Quest 2 aren't getting RE8? RE4 Remake VR? Nope. But Sony supposedly gets no games and gets no AAA games. Is Synapse on PC or Quest 2? Nope. But we keep seeing these ridiculous articles.

Want to know what's coming out? Go to the PlayStation Blog. Want to know what's releasing and coming that are confirmed games for PS VR 2? Just watch videos like this from legit sites like Eurogamer.
https://youtu.be/dd-yhkH-_N...
That was 3 weeks ago for this video.

That's over 110 games. But PS VR 2 has no games and no games coming if you listen to the narrative being pushed. No one knew Guerilla was making a VR game in collaboration. But one came at launch. Just because Sony isn't saying much beyond Spider-Man 2 doesn't mean all those studios are sitting in their offices doing nothing but collecting checks.

And, after making a hit VR game and a hit pack in game for PS5 with Astrobot, you would think Asobi was making nothing else based on these bullshit articles that are either biased or agenda based. Take these knuckleheads articles with a grain of salt.

All these right now individuals are holding Sony to a standard when games are actually coming. But they don't say shit about others. And most likely promote Facebook and Quest when nothing AAA has released except RE4 and maybe Medal of Honor. After 2 years, you expect more of 20 million headsets were sold. Sony matched that amount at launch already within 6 months. Actually the first month.

[Scarpa123]

Still, it's a niche product, and the usual overpriced gimmick from Sony that nobody asked for.

[crazyCoconuts]

Probably over a million "nobody's" such as myself. I for one use it and am glad they have it.
Yeah, definitely not for everyone, especially if you can't afford it

[fr0sty]

Overpriced? It has better specs than PC headsets twice its price... Still nothing on PC you can get that features eye tracking, Tempest 3D audio with 100 different spatial audio objects, foveated rendering, or haptic feedback... and for it to also come with 4K OLED HDR panels, which no other headset in its price range has... you'd have to be daft or have no idea what you're talking about to call that overpriced. To call it a gimmick proves you've never touched one.

[PapaBop]

@ fr0sty It's definitely not overpriced so to speak but it's still too expensive for the average gamer to take a chance on or impulse buy. It probably will always be a niche product but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as those who buy it continue to use it.

[Babadook7]

Millions asked for it.

[Neonridr]

@fr0sty - please don't talk about Tempest 3D audio like it's some miracle of technology, that is the biggest gimmick around. Any good Surround Sound headset can replicate everything happening with "Sony's" headsets. I use a Steelseries Arctis Nova Pro wireless set with my PSVR2 and it sounds incredible and is more comfortable to wear.

[CosmicTurtle]

I asked for it. I just wanted more dedicated first party and triple A games (or at least announcements) that take advantage of the hardware and the medium. PSVR1 was not powerful enough and ended up with many games that would have flourished on better hardware with dedicated controls.

[fr0sty]

The bots are extra salty that they still can't enjoy VR... lol

[refocusedman]

I have a psvr 2 and the original quality games are kinda scarce. don't get me wrong the add ons are great but 600 dollars to play a few add ons doesn't really cut it. no backwards compatibility really hampers the system as the post launch drought is inevitable for most systems.

[fr0sty]

PSVR2 launched with more AAA games than PSVR1 ever had... and they keep coming. RE8, GT7 (and no, these aren't add ons, they're full on experiences that vastly improve the game over playing it on a TV), No Man's Sky (ditto), Crossfire, Firewall, Pavlov, Horizon, just to name a few, all within the first 6 months of release. That's a better lineup of games than PS5 itself had in its first 6 months... Pretty much everything PS5 had to start with was cross-platform games that barely upgraded over their PS4 counterparts, it wasn't until more recently that we really got to see what the system was capable of, so with that considered, I'd say PSVR2 is off to a fine start, and it'll only get better from here.

[Babadook7]

“I have a psvr 2 and the original quality games are kinda scarce.”

What does original quality mean?

[Stanjara]

You are delusional and way too deep.
You have RE titles and GT7. Everything else are overpriced mediocre titles.

[Babadook7]

“You have RE titles and GT7. Everything else are overpriced mediocre titles.“

Even if that’s true. Which it isn’t because I could list many other amazing games. RE8 alone destroys any flat screen game this gen by a wide margin. GT7 also destroys the flat screen version when comparing fun factor.

[Stanjara]

Babadook7 Yes, these are really impressive, but these handful of titles don't justify the price and the hassle of Sony accessory vision of ecosystem.

[Babadook7]

I think the cost is acceptable for a product this good. The amount of great titles at the moment is acceptable too and ‘who knows how much it grows each year?’” It’s half a year old. The potential is sky high. The ps3 has a much slower start. Even the ps4 and ps5 may have been slower. Sony will have lots more support obviously.

The more you use it the less hassle it is also.

[Neonridr]

you get so defensive if someone doesn't agree with you about PSVR2. Why do you think those RE games don't exist on PC? Because Sony pays for exclusivity.

[ApocalypseShadow]

And you get defensive thinking they're right when obviously they don't support VR anyway. A lot of these fools have never used it. They are fine with big companies buying up publishers or fine with micro transactions. But not fine with something that would give them even more immersion. They want Sony to make something awesome then give it away for almost nothing. Games. Headsets. Consoles Doesn't matter. These gamers are cheapskates asking for handouts.

How do you know Sony is paying for exclusives? But you know what's funny? Gamers want Sony to invest in bringing VR games to their headset. And when they do that, then people like you imply that it's a negative. You can't have it both ways.

Either you want Sony to push for more high quality, even hybrid exclusives to the platform or you don't. And they act like Sony is making no more games beyond Spider-Man 2. Happens every time. Doom and gloom. Then Sony brings the games. Then, we do this shit all over again.

No. What I don't like is ignorant individuals that don't know what they are talking about. They want Sony to bring new, innovative things to PlayStation. Then, those same knuckleheads tear them down for trying like PS VR 2 or Project Q or whatever. I'm sick of brats that don't deserve anything. Gaming doesn't have to be locked to a controller and a couch. Only the narrow-minded want that. And there's a lot of them in this thread.

[CrimsonWing69]

I’m not gonna lie, I was so excited for it, but it’s sort of a paper weight right now without any heavy hitters coming out. RE4 VR will be the thing that gets me to jump back in, but what’s there after this?

It also sucks I can’t play the PSVR 1 games… that was a bit of a blow for me.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

I’m enjoying what games it has…. What more do you want besides an Alyx port and a better launch for Firewall 2.

[Profchaos]

Yeah firewall ultra was my first ever psn refund

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Pavlov is just great already, imo.

I hope they eliminate the grinding for Firewall, because I wanna get into it.

[generic-user-name]

GT7, RE8, Pavlov, RE4, Firewall, Madison VR, Aces of War and even though it's an indie, Phasmophobia VR is my most anticipated. It's a strong launch year, but 2024 for PSVR2 remains a mystery.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

I’d argue the PSVR2 had a stronger first year than the XsX’s first 3 years.

I do hope the pace continues.

[BlindMango]

I've been using it since launch and it's my first VR headset that I've owned. It's great to see that many of the VR classics have released on it such as Beat Saber, Walkabout Mini Golf, Moss, Job Simulator, etc. That being said, it's bizzaire to me that Sony hasn't announced anything about porting ANY of their PSVR1 titles over to PSVR2, or having one of their dev studios utilize ANY of their IPs to make original bite-sized VR games. For example it would be a no brainer to make High Velocity Bowling for PSVR2. Maybe we'll have more announcements from Sony in the coming months? If not then uh-oh...

[ROCKY28]

Everyone wants a new WipEout "Now" Please - new WipEout VR more PSVR2 headsets sold !
just remaster XL & 3 and we are good to go 😊👍

[Profchaos]

I honestly find that I've been using my psvr2 more than I have been playing flat screen games.

[RaiderNation]

Same. I play No Man's Sky, GT7, and Beat Saber almost every day.

[ravens52]

Sony is just making a bunch of odd moves or no moves at the moment. It's pretty upsetting.

[Elda]

I've always said this. No one is really talking about PSVR2 far as mainstream media nor has there been any talk of any future AAA games releasing on PSVR2. Hopefully PSVR2 adopters don't get abandoned like Sony abandoned the VIta with first party games.

[BrainSyphoned]

Without backwards compatibility to play Fallout 4 or Skyrim I'll just stick with my Vive. There just aren't enough full length titles to make it worth spending more in VR again.

[Babadook7]

I agree that’s how I feel about the Vive when I’ve got a psvr2.

[Umb]

Need more media consumption support as well, e.g. YT 360 VR. This was suported in PSVR why not PSVR2??

[z2g]

NGL, my psvr2 has sat untouched for months now. I actively check for new games that look interesting but most are just ports of stuff we've already seen before, or kinda silly vr games... there's not a ton of big AAA action to take advantage of what is actually really cool hardware.

It also bums me out that most of the games available for psvr2 aren't stellar visually. most have some degree of potato graphics going on or they are highly stylized in what I assume is a way to get around more realistic graphics. there are exceptions for sure (eg GT7, RE, COTM) but I'd say about 75-85% of the games available on psvr2 I have little to no interest in and I don't see a ton on the horizon that I'm interested in. I somewhat feel I jumped the gun and regret buying it even tho I have had some cool moments with it. I just still feel there are too many hassles and tradeoffs coupled with a fairly limited library of games. I definitely wouldn't say its a must have or game changing, no matter how cool the tech itself is.

[talocaca]

I had a PSVR and I loved some of the experiences but didn't play it that much.

I felt $550 for PSVR2 was justified but also too high for casual use. I live in Japan and you can easily find second hand units for around $350 in pristine condition. I pulled the trigger and I am glad I did.

The system is MUCH better that the original, and while it is true that more AAA, recognizable franchises would be welcome and appreciated....there's actually tons of quality titles every month:

Red Matter 2
C-Smash
Rez Infinite
GT7
Tetris Effect
Resident Evil Village
Kayak
Walking Dead

The moment I get Astrobot / Blood &Truth (hopefully a sequels but even upgraded ports) I am happy with my purchase.

[Rimeskeem]

I do want one eventually, just moved so money is tight.

[Youngindy21]

The price for PSVR2 is too high. It shouldn't have cost more than a PS5. Having consumers spend almost 600 bucks after buying a 500 dollar console meant PSVR2 was DOA.

[mudakoshaka]

I am afraid this is the new strategy of Jim Ryan. Ryan did not greenlight the PSVR2. All the VR projects were greenlit by the old CEO Shuhei Yoshida. He loved gaming and bringing joy to gamers. Jim Ryan is just a businessman who is only after new means of income by releasing expensive peripherals in the form of earbuds and a portable screen with limited use and a wave of unreleased GaaS. Jim Ryan treats PSVR as the adopted child he never wanted. To late to abort it when he took over, but will not be showing it any love by investing more in it. Just like the unwanted and neglected child of his, the hope is that someone else will take care of it (3rd party developers)

[boing1]

Well, I'm having a blast with mine every day. There are plenty of games to enjoy.

[aaronaton]

For me, playing RE:Village on the PSVR2 was the best gaming experience i've had in years. I play mine everyday, but mainly GT7 Online.
What i will say is though, some of the titles i've looked forward too are actually really poor games (Firewall & Crossfire).
I think War Thunder could kick start the PSVR2 again.

[Dfooster]

Sony need to get their act together and get some big hitting games on there. Also they need to open up the device to at least have the same capabilities as the first PSVR in terms of being able to play video content, 3D movies etc.

[slayernz]

i hadnt played it in a couple of months as recently bought a new house and everythings been boxed away etc, but finally managed to sit down tonight and have another decent play....loaded up gt7 and man it still blows me away how good it is. got a decent backlog of psvr2 games to get through as well

......so is it dead on arrival? HELL NO!

[bazookasDAD]

Got mine day one, I have enjoyed it personally. Gt7 alone has kept me busy enough. But yes, the library is somewhat lacking. Also, I still think not playing 3d movies is down right stupid.

[spambot0815]

that's what playstation first party studios are for or at least should be, make that one game people are buying the hardware for.

[fsfsxii]

Smells like broke in here lmao

[Doge]

And wet boots.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

I want to buy one.

[Neonridr]

I was hoping this month was going to be good with Firewall and Synapse. Synapse is fun, but gets a bit repetitive. Hopefully as I unlock more abilities things ramp up. Firewall was a bit of a disappointment in its current state. I know it will get better, but I don't know why they rushed to have that game out when it clearly wasn't fully ready.

I need some RE4 news please, I'd love to get that VR update in the next month or so. I'll check out 7th Guest as well as I am a huge fan of the original.

I wouldn't say it's stuck in neutral, but after it's really great start out the gates it's sputtering a bit here and there. And I'm a huge VR fan before anyone jumps on me saying I don't know. I've had 4 VR headsets to date.

[Einhander1971]

Its a great piece of kit I own one, but until Astrobot comes to it I won't be satisfied.

[SmortBoie]

Barely use it. 80% of the games are crap indie products and 15% are middle of the road.
Capcom has shown that games can be ported into VR. RE4 is a third person action adventure they're adding a FPS mode to in order to port it as is, with more features, into VR.
We don't nessesarily need a stocked catelog of tripe As - I get it's not worth spending millions for game dev on a small install base. But any triple A flatscreen game can be ported into VR without breaking the bank - I'd pay for the extra modes. And they'd be system sellers. Why Sony isn't dealing with devs to get more VR2 modes in games is beyond me. Make the hardware worth it you numbskulls! Modders do this in their spare time and do it freaking well. What's going on here.

[Stuart5756]

Same as psvr1

[babadivad]

Seems like it.

[TheEnigma313]

It's the price for me.

[1nsomniac]

The most ridiculous and embarrassing negative of the system is that it can’t even do the most simple basic 101 of VR ecosystem which is watching 3D movies.

I mean seriously let that sink in! It’s a premium system that can’t even do the most basic features.

I also think Firewall Ultra was a turning point. As it was plugged and should have been a system seller. They really dropped the ball and that game should have no way been released like that. Sony should have stepped in.

All momentum has been completely lost and that is down to Sony and how they support their secondary products. Systems turning into a joke at this point!

[gleepot]

I don't think its stuck in neutral, i just think its a niche crowd thats adopted it and plays VR, which is fine (did anyone ever expect it to be the norm or anything?)

from what Ive seen of PSVR2, its fantastic

[Aaroncls7]

From my own experience,at least 90% of the people that diss on VR have just never tried it.
And this is one of those things that you have to try in person.

I dont own PSVR2 but I'm certainly rooting for it. I do have VR on PC tho, and the mod scene is really picking up. Thanks to absolute heroes like Praydog and Luke Ross we have a lot of VR game mods to play with. Including some PS titles like Spidey, Horizon and Uncharted pc.

VR gaming is not a gimmick or phase, it is a really cool alternate mode of playing with max level immersion.

[aaronlif10]

They really need to push to get more AAA games out. Especially Half Life Alyx. Not sure why they haven't announced that yet, they need to.

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