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PSVR 2 is awesome — now go make Xbox Series X VR, Microsoft

Tom's Guide: I’m very impressed with Sony’s new virtual reality headset. In fact, I think it is probably the best VR headset around.

And that’s why I really hope Microsoft takes a look at VR on the Xbox Series X.

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crazyCoconuts464d ago

From the stories they focused their cuts on the HoloLens retired departments. They're not going there anytime soon.

SullysCigar464d ago

It's pretty bad really. They touted Xbox One X as "VR Ready" and promised it would deliver "high fidelity VR" in the marketing leading up to launch. People went and bought it. Crickets.

PureBlood464d ago

Just more broken promises. So glad I left all that behind. No more FOMO!

Halo in VR would be a great fit (not Infinite, obviously) and seeing how amazed everyone has been by GT7 makes me think Forza too, but no, just more risk-averse, iterative drudgery instead.

I have two friends left behind on Xbox, the others all made the leap. I'm sticking those two in GT7 in VR and we'll see how loyal they're feeling then lol

Andrew336464d ago

Care to share those articles where they said that? Spencer has always said they were not focused on VR so why would they say the series x would deliver high fidelity VR?

mkis007464d ago (Edited 464d ago )

Andrew

ONE x was promised but they abandoned it before series x.

https://www.theverge.com/20...

SullysCigar463d ago

^ Andrew336, once you've learned to read, fella, take a look at the text below from Xbox.com. Link provided, as requested. Need anything else?

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

"The next step-change for gamers and developers must deliver true 4K gaming and high-fidelity VR experiences to the console. To that end, we were happy to announce the next addition to the Xbox One family: Project Scorpio.

When it ships next year, Project Scorpio will be our most powerful console ever built, specifically to lead the industry into a future in which true 4K gaming and high-fidelity VR are the standard, not an exception.

Project Scorpio will be the first console with 6 teraflops of power, which will empower the world’s greatest game creators to fully embrace true 4K gaming without sacrificing quality, generate premier VR experiences, without sacrificing performance, and putting greater graphic fidelity in the hands of the world’s best game creators."

bleedsoe9mm463d ago

they absolutely made the right call no doing that one

fr0sty463d ago

It is comforting to hear people say "PSVR 2 might be the best overall VR headset", not just "Best in its price range" like with the first PSVR.

wiz7191463d ago

@SullysCigar at the point they was trying to partner with Oculus , to be able to use their VR headsets with the console. Idk what happened to that , maybe it fell through ..

thesoftware730463d ago

Holly heck man, that was like 2016-17...why are you regurgitating this over and over.

No it's not "Pretty Bad"..no one cares, VR is nothing more than a side thing, niche, and not a defining factor, in gaming.

It's cool and I enjoy VR, but not even close to playing a game traditionally.

Once again, no one cares about this.

SullysCigar463d ago

^ Hey there @thesoftware730, thanks for stopping by!

"No one cares, nO oNe CaReZZZ" - check out the agree to disagree ratio and eat it up, my friend. You might also want to check out when Phil Spencer said he thinks VR is "great" and he hopes to have it on Series XS one day. Let me know if Google is too taxing and I'll hit you up with a link, just like I did for your accomplice above ;^)

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glennhkboy463d ago

HoloLens is a black project (defense project) now. There may no be a consumers product until 2030 at the earlist.

VariantAEC463d ago

HoloLens is a joke. There were better technologies before it and after its beta run.
If the government were interested MS wouldn't have publicly scrapped it only to supposedly keep it as a secret project. No, the reality is HL is dead.

DarXyde463d ago

I don't find it to be unlikely for them to reach a deal with Meta or Valve to allow Xbox compatibility with their headsets.

Microsoft would be able to avoid the investment costs and could just license/make games but on the other hand, it doesn't really make sense for them to do it because of you have a good headset, chances are, you've got a pretty good PC. Since Xbox and PC games release together, it doesn't really make sense to have it on Xbox.

Hmm, yeah. Microsoft is in an interesting space. I suppose that WOULD be a reason to develop their own headset for the cheaper console market, but I don't see them doing that after recent cuts and massive acquisitions.

purple101464d ago

Ms don't do games either.

Sooo there's that

MEGANE463d ago

MS has never innovate nor pioneer anything at all, all they have done is copy something successful and throw billions at it whit the only intention of making profit with no passion at all. The reason why they keep doing it is because thats how MS was born to begin with, coping intellectual property from Apple and others. Don't believed me?; Zune, Window phone, Surface, xbox, none of this things brought anything new to the market and fail. and the only reason Xbox still alive is Because Phill manage to convince MS into pouring billions on it… again coping subscription services models like netflix etc.
So you are right, MS don’t take any risks, just bad decisions.

glennhkboy463d ago

Konnect was as innovative and advance as VR could get.

Aussiesummer463d ago

Kinect for better or worse was a risk and highly innovative. maybe that was the failure that made them stop taking risks, pity.

VariantAEC463d ago

@glennhkboy and Aussiesummer
Kinect was a riff off the PS2's Eye-Toy which was way way faster and used one camera to do everything Kiniect did with two (or more plus an IR dot laser probe which annoyed my eyes and wasn't even deep enough into the IR range to be invisible to me).

fr0sty462d ago

They attempt innovation sometimes, then give up on it. Kinect. Holo Lens, that projection mapping system that projects your video games onto your living room wall and you can interact with your room and such...

All cool ideas that got scrapped before they could take off, other than kinect which they attempted to force on us only to realize we still didn't want it.

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TheEnigma313463d ago

They haven't done any risks since the og xbox.

DarXyde463d ago

Define "risk". They've certainly got the most capital and can afford to **** up pretty regularly. But I have to agree in a way. I can't think of anything that was genuinely risky. Achievements? No, that was warmly embraced and no one's gonna bat an eye at an extra feature. HD-DVD? Nah. They weren't in it fully and they receive royalties on blu-ray VC1 codec, if I recall. They had 2 horses in a two-horse race. Kinect? Yyyyyeah? It was done in response to the popularity of the Wii and I think they knew it was a tough sell to their own consumers. That was pretty ballsy, I'll say. Xbox One DRM? Not only risky, incredibly stupid. But ultimately, they didn't follow through (which they deserve credit for), so I guess the risk was the pitch, really. Series X|S dichotomous model launch? Consumer-friendly but probably a pain in the ass for developers. I don't have much thoughts on this one either way.

If you ask me, the riskiest thing Microsoft did was launch their fourth home console in the year 2020 with a controller that still uses AA batteries. I still don't understand it. I really don't and it's oddly frustrating to me. I don't know who's okay with it or WHY they're okay with it.

sparky77464d ago

Tencent already dropped their VR plans, Meta is failing spectacularly with theirs despite their massive user base and PSVR2 has had lacklustre preorders.

In what world would MS think VR is a good bet.

crazyCoconuts464d ago

Yet here's Sony with their second iteration, still pushing though and delighting customers with new innovations.
What company do you prefer to buy products from? Which one is like Disney and which one is like Chucky Cheese?

HICK463d ago

Screw Disney. But I appreciate the sentiment

S2Killinit464d ago

PSVR2 sales rumour was proven to be a false allegation by a clickbait journalist.

MS would want to get into VR if they want their in house developers to learn from developing games. I know MS isnt big on making games.

Orchard464d ago

All he said was it had lackluster preorders - which we know to be true given that it has failed to sell out on PSDirect.

MrNinosan463d ago

So anything that doesn't sell out is counted as failure?

Such as Elden Ring, Series S, any Xbox game, any iPhone, Samsung etc...

When Sony stated they'll have 2 million PSVR2 by launch was because they didn't want the same mess as with Series X and PS5.

S2Killinit463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

@Orchard
Except it didn’t have “lackluster” preorders as that rumor was based on a false claim by a journalist who was fishing for clickbaits. But some people are so desperate for PSVR2 to fail that they grasped at straws.

Now, MS series X sales would be considered lackluster, as we actually do have something to compare it to, namely the PS5.

SurgicalMenace463d ago

Failed to sell out, huh? You see, Orchard, it seems like you just love the taste of Reeboks. Didn't sale out? Lackluster? What are the numbers vs. the projections? Have you seen the healthy amount of PS5s available lately? It's crazy that you would never consider that they anticipated the increased production on PS5, but not make adjustments to make as many PSVR2s available as possible.

What you do, sir, is cap because you don't speak from a knowledgeable position. When I pre-ordered mine, they were available, but when my son went to pre-order his they weren't available, nor were the dual chargers. It was about two days before they both were replenished. You see what I learned was from 1st hand experience, not from second-hand sources. With your logic, something can only be doing well if they're sold out? How many successful products are readily available when you go to purchase them? You talk in way too many absolutes to always be so far outside of the situation.

RauLeCreuset463d ago

@Orchard

I take it you regained the ability to draw conclusions without having actual numbers that you temporarily lost when TLOU Remake was shooting up the charts now that it allows you to promote a negative narrative about PSVR2.

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SullysCigar464d ago

Why do literally only you and Orchard continue to perpetuate the myth that the pre-orders were lacklustre?

Do you have anything to back that up, or is it just wishful thinking and that one article that was proven to be fake (and the same source of an also fake smear against PS5 sales previously)?

PSVR made Sony at least $2.5 billion - how are we going to explain that fact away?

Orchard464d ago

So… has it sold out on PS direct yet? Is it invite only? Are there queues?

Nope.

“ PSVR made Sony at least $2.5 billion”

So? Kinect made 1.2b in a quarter and outsold the PSVR - it was still a flop 🤷

SullysCigar463d ago

^ Why are you so far removed from reality? So if something is available to buy, it's not popular? Lol what sort of logic is that?

You make a product and want people to be able to buy it, you don't want them to be turned away, because if that happens THAT is a failure from a supply standpoint. Sony had that issue with PS5, they don't want to have that situation again and they're managing to meet demand, for now - this is GOOD news! It hasn't even launched yet.

Are you suggesting that Microsoft weren't pleased to have turned a profit on Kinect? Did you forget the part where they forced everyone to buy one at launch last gen? No matter how you cut it, companies want to make money. If they can do that at the same time as pleasing their customers, win-win. That's what we're seeing here.

Or you can go the Microsoft route, which is currently lose-lose, in this context and others. But go ahead and peddle your narrative that Sony is wrong, even though everyone's happy, I'm sure the 4 other usual Debbie Downers will appreciate it.

RauLeCreuset463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

"So? Kinect made 1.2b in a quarter and outsold the PSVR - it was still a flop 🤷"

It's almost like healthy growth over time is preferable to the explosive growth a fad may experience before people move on to the next fad. I love how you keep using this point as if it doesn't invalidate your greater argument.

SurgicalMenace463d ago

Again, you're speaking out of the side of your neck. I was the senior director of one of the largest video game retailers at the height of the Kinect. Guess what? They were bundled with the consoles because they were just sitting on the shelves, otherwise. What you do to prove points is manipulate and omit information to fit your narrative. I'm not understanding all the hate towards something that you claim to own. Hate is a very sad and lonely place. Why would anyone choose to be there?

VariantAEC463d ago

@Orchard
If PSVR2 sold the planned 2 million units before it launched nearly 10% of PS5 users would have VR come Feb 22nd... day 1 for PSVR2.
That would already be very very bad for your idea of a failure. You also forgot that Kinect was bundled with Xbox 360's (which is how I got mine during the PSN network hack of 2011). Yeah, it was a waste of money to get the Kinect Xbox 360, but even so I'm kind of glad I did to show off how much worse it was compared to PS2's Eye-Toy which launched 6 years earlier.

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Orchard464d ago (Edited 464d ago )

Agree. You’d have to be nuts to look at the state of VR and say “oh boy, there’s a market I must push into! A niche hardware device sold at a loss with a super low attach rate that everyone else either skipped on investing in or are now bailing out”.

There’s a reason why every big player minus Sony has skipped on VR or subsequently gave up on it.

Nyxus464d ago

So why didn't Sony give up on it according to you? Are they 'nuts'?

HICK463d ago

Orchard have you even played PSVR? Just curious which category of gamer you fall into.

MrNinosan463d ago

Why did they push so hard for Hololens?

Burrito26a463d ago

Sounds like you're describing Xbox.

S2Killinit463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

I remember how hard hololens was grasped to so that the xbox gamers didnt feel left out.

But truth turned out that MS was after military contracts with the hololens and I guess it didnt pan out. Making Games, not too high on MS priority list.

Im going to love playing on my beautiful PSVR2 though. Enjoy hololens. Or, nevermind.

S2Killinit463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

Ironic, that is exactly what Apple are doing. In fact, MS dropping its hololens is probably because they fear Apple.

VR market will continue to grow.

Chevalier463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

Just because Xbox is a failure does NOT mean Playstation can't succeed. You're also the same guy who said let's look at Playstations sales report then ghosted when it turns out they made $8.8 billion revenue and broke the industry record.

Playstation must be doing something right if despite the 'failure' of PSVR according to you that Playstation STILL managed to break the industry record 3 times. Must mean Playstations endeavors have been somewhat successful if they're doing so well overall.

Honestly I don't think you even know what the word success even means. Let's not forget before Playstation gaming was not mainstream.

Nacho_Z463d ago

All new innovative tech starts off niche and sells to a small market. Then it grows. Whether a company has the vision to buy into it early on is up to them, Sony has and I don't know why you're so upset about it. Can you not move on seeing as you've no interest in it?

You would have been the guy back in the day who saw a tv set for the first time and said it'd never catch on.

crazyCoconuts463d ago

@s2k, I don't think MS was targeting the military originally with HoloLens. I'm guessing the military was their last ditch effort after their consumer unfriendly product didn't get off the ground in any way.

SurgicalMenace463d ago

So when HD DVD failed, Sony should have tucked tail too? Perhaps Sony does better where others fall short. Isn't that how all competitions determine the winner?

ApocalypseShadow463d ago

Another lie.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

"PlayStation VR being sold at a profit, Sony says
Not a loss leader"

https://www.google.com/amp/...

"PlayStation VR Is Being Sold at a Profit, Says Sony"

Another lie coming from you that it's a loss leader. What's next? You need more links?

Even the games had a high attachment rate

https://www.resetera.com/th...

How many times do you need to be proven false?

SonyStyled463d ago

Orchard, I’m glad you enjoy Xbox and everything that they are doing. If you also enjoy Sony games (or not) on your PS5 I’m happy for you too. There are players on PS consoles really hyped for vr2 regardless if you aren’t as excited for it. If it’s not for you, that’s okay as well.

I’m not buying vr2. I’ll replace my refrigerator or hot water heater before I’ll buy vr2. I don’t go out of my way to influence those hyped about vr2 that they shouldn’t be spending their own $600 and it’s all some smoke and mirror Sony illusion. If a gamer is interested in vr2 and can afford it, they’ll buy it. Great for them. I’m really happy for those people to experience it. It’s not in my budget, it might not be in your budget either, but others are really looking forward to it. Why do you not want a new generation of vr?

Just use what’s achievable for you and what you want in gaming. I’m not buying it, I have better things to spend money on. I’m glad people are excited for it can pay that premium experience. I’m not one of them. You seem really interested in vr2 to not be a ‘thing’ in todays game space.

VariantAEC463d ago

From Chevalier: "Let's not forget before Playstation gaming was not mainstream."
Yet so many people still believe Nintendo saved gaming. I agree it was actually PlayStation with the original console back in 94 or 95 (or later depending on your region). If Nintendo was left to its own devices, our hobby as we know it would be a shadow of its current self and MS wouldn't have even entered the market. Hopefully PS can shake off the cancer in the gaming industry known as Xbox. Maybe with only two players again, Nintendo will finally shape up as well, I used to like Nintendo.

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Profchaos463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

The low pre-orders rumour was declared as false some outlets retracted the story but many couldn't be bothered I guess controversy and console wars generate more clicks

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italiangamer464d ago

More chances of snowing in hell than ms taking risks.

crazyCoconuts463d ago

Risks I can remember for Xbox:
Kinect - kudos for trying. Nice idea nice tech. They didn't listen to the customer and bundled it with X1
Built in Cable in X1- kudos for trying something different but again not what gamers wanted

When they do take risks their usually not in the right things.

mandf463d ago

Wasn't a risk they copied the eyetoy

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