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Welcoming Firesprite to the PlayStation Studios Family

The next addition to PlayStation Studios is a creative, ambitious team from Liverpool.

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GaboonViper993d ago

Fantastic news, can't wait to see what they are working on.

Obscure_Observer993d ago

Whatever happened to that "nurture the talent of our first party studios" BS talk.

https://n4g.com/news/242464...

The Wood993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

they stem from sonys old liverpool studio (members)

You try too hard bro

All you had to do was research but noooooooooo, auto crap spew

https://twitter.com/GIBiz/s...

darthv72993d ago

I guess technically they are doing that. this studio is not exactly new, just a reboot / remake / remaster of talent from ones past. I believe it was Studio Liverpool (Wipeout guys). So they were always a first party studio and took a break a while back to rebrand themselves.

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dbcoops993d ago

"We’ve had the pleasure of working with many talented developers and publishers across the industry and PlayStation in particular has been a friend and co-development partner for the best part of a decade,"

What ever happened to reading and researching before trolling?

TheTony316993d ago

Firewalk is the former Sony Liverpool studio that worked on games like Wipeout...but nice try, lol.

RpgSama993d ago

@Obscure_Observer

What a joke, at least read before commenting on anything, you should be ashamed of being ridiculed in public on a basically daily basis.

GamingSinceForever993d ago

Damn at least read before commenting bro.

CosmicTurtle993d ago

@obscure_observer what are you actually offended about? If so why?

CosmicTurtle993d ago

Why can’t you just be happy with your console choice? MS have some nice studios, what compels you to cheerlead for a product and sniping at another rather than just enjoying what you have? You like what MS offer that’s dandy. If you are worried about PR people saying stupid stuff then you won’t be happy with any console manufacturer. Do you get so heated when someone announces a feature in a dishwasher you don’t own?

Maybe you find a game in trolling and arguing, but I assure you there are richer ways to spend your time.

Wintersun616993d ago

Please leave Trollscure_Trollerver.

AmUnRa993d ago

And here whe have the first troll who does not really know what the " blieb" he is talking about.

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F0XH0UND922993d ago

Another epic fail from obscure.

On topic, it's nice to see Sony continuing the trend of nurturing talent and fostering long lasting relationships with talented devs. Hopefully they have something to show tomorrow.

mkis007993d ago

Well anytime you try to claim non-bias now this will follow you.

itsmebryan993d ago

@The wood
Didn't Sony close the studio and that's why they are old members of Sony. Maybe that's what he is talking about. That's not what you think of when you "nurture talent ".

Vizigoth04992d ago

Yeah not worth getting mad over. I would just go back to playing games if I was you.

Bathyj992d ago

Did that troll attempt go how you thought it would?

tay8701992d ago

dude you do know this studio is made up of former employees from sony liverpool studio that was closes in 2012 right?

Sarcasm992d ago

Guys, I think he's already dead.

Sunny_D992d ago

Sorry bud, you tried. But your poor trolling skills need work.

JackBNimble992d ago

Like obscure observer said
"Whatever happened to that nurture the talent of first party studio's "?

I would like to know that too considering that "quite a few members of fire Sprite came from Sony's first party studio liverpool "

If I were these guy's I'd be worried that Sony shuts this newer studio down.

Another question that should be asked:
Sony owned studio liverpool and shut them down , so why buy a studio made up of quite few of the members of the studio that Sony already closed?

badz149992d ago

@Obscure_Observer

MS started this acquisition craze first. If it was not for MS and their fat pocket papa Satya buying studios left and right, these acquisitions would have been at a slower pace as before. it's no coincidence that Sony suddenly swoop Insomniac after all these years they have been honoring the company's desire to stay independent. The same reason it is for this too I guess. They just can't afford losing 3rd parties to MS as they gobble them up one by one and started moving in that direction before MS makes the move. MS doesn't care about the xbox, they just want the PS dominance to end. They tried with power and marketing, that didn't work. they know, GAMES and DEVELOPERS are keys to it and by depriving these elements will make the PS brand weaker. they realized this and started buying studios and Sony would be dumb to let MS be the only one doing it.

FYI, acquiring a studio especially those with no steady income like this one is not ideal. they need to be paid as normal employees and without a studio income, they will be the extra expenses for the owner.

Extermin8or3_992d ago

Even if the founders of this studio weren't former members of Sony Liverpool your comment would still have no merit whatsoever. When Sony made that renark what they were essentially saying is: if you can't get first party titles out the door regularly and of a consistent quality buying a large studio or publisher won't fix that. The issues regarding project management etc are going to carry over and the new studio will Bring with it a different and well established culture etc which will probably take time to integrate with your existing corporate culture. However if you buy smaller teams that are growing and help them grow and progress and move to releasing larger titles over time (look at housemarque or bluepoint- I know officially they haven't bought the latter yet) then the culture can be forged and melded to match yours and the studio should grown naturally without the requirement it be pumped up with money.

DarXyde992d ago

Ughhhhh, here we go....

I don't think there is anything I can say that hasn't already been said. Seems like a painfully obvious attempt at a gotcha moment, but in any case, Obscure_Observer, I can only encourage you to evaluate things before you jump off like that. Seems like you were in a hurry to deliver this "own" and it ended up being a misfire. Somehow, I think you're better than this...

I'm genuinely not a fan of these acquisitions. They're annoying and really bring out the worst in gamers. Now it's just about hypocrisy burning and whose box maker has more studios (which you shouldn't concern yourself with—quality every time).

I'll give Sony some benefit of the doubt here because these are traditionally small studios they're acquiring, Insomniac withstanding. It's a matter of giving the lesser known artists a better canvas to realize a larger vision, a la Returnal. I think the benefits are pretty apparent for gamers in this regard. I suppose Microsoft deserves some benefit too because it means games from Bethesda are on Game Pass, which is a win for consumers. But outside of that, I don't see why anyone should care or cheer these acquisitions on when they happen.

Honestly, I'm not about to argue that "he started it!" crap. That's such juvenile rhetoric. Take it as it is: another acquisition in what is likely the beginning of a large theme.

Side bar: did anyone else notice the PlayStation Studios logo at the beginning of the official Death Stranding trailer?

https://youtu.be/EV53lnCzP1...

CaptainHenry916992d ago

Firesprite (Playroom, The Persistence) joins PlayStation

-Over 200 developers
-Many come from former SIE Studio Liverpool
-The team is currently developing a "AAA branching narrative adventure game" and a "AAA quality new action shooter IP"

Blog: https://t.co/V1GMeFj0oQ https://t.co/sZDMFB9QD5

Father__Merrin992d ago

@obscure

Looks like a total annihilation on this one....

The Wood992d ago (Edited 992d ago )

@Darxyde

Nice take.. you should be on YouTube.

In regards to the disdain for acquisitions, I hear where you're coming from but thats the nature of the beast. If the companies could continue to work using 2nd and 3rd party relationships without the threat of that studio being locked away via acquisitions I'd be fine. It seems only Nintendo aren't getting embroiled in this movement. Sad to say but this is a content war and studio acquisitions are the segway

Killer2020UK992d ago

Zero acknowledgement when proven wrong is a real weak look.

Gunstar75992d ago

Darth...a 10 year break to rebrand? LoL

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neutralgamer1992993d ago

Welcome back to many of the members and great addition to playstation family. Bluepoint announcement tomorrow I think

generic-user-name993d ago

A good pedigree with VR, which will benefit Sony's new headset. Still, this one was a big surprise, I can't believe another studio was officially acquired before Bluepoint.

neutralgamer1992993d ago

I think that's for tomorrow with MGS1 remake announcement

generic-user-name993d ago

Whatever Bluepoint are working on next, MGS or not, I'm certain it will be quality. SotC and Demon's Souls blew me away.

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Sunny_D992d ago

BRUH, I SWEAR if they announce it..... I'm gonna pop.

SullysCigar993d ago

My first thought too. Huge news for VR fans like me!

neutralgamer1992993d ago

Yes but now they will work on traditional games too not just VR(either way it's great)

neutralgamer1992993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

Oh yeah they are top quality developers. The reason I think they are working on something big is because Sony didn't ask them to remake TLOU. That remake is rumored to be on development under ND. So why would Sony not ask BP to remake it since they are the best at remakes/remasters

Meaning they must be on another big project

VersusDMC993d ago

They highlighted in the blog post that they worked on VR stuff...so they are probably a PSVR2 developer. Not for me but VR fans rejoice.

Darkborn993d ago

They have 2 projects in production. It's actually a pretty big studio with like 250+ devs and they are still hiring.

Nyxus993d ago

Could be VR, but not necessarily:

"Not necessarily," Hulst says. "Clearly the expertise that Firesprite has gained on their work with The Persistence and The Playroom is something that they bring to the table. It's too early to talk about what specific platforms or experiences that we're going to collaborate on with Firesprite. But that experience is very valuable.

Ankers again: "The philosophy that we have is to really innovate and create on any platform. Whether that's VR or non-VR. VR is amazing. It really changes the paradigm of design and immerses you in those worlds. It doesn't really matter for us what the hardware is, we'll maximise and create and innovate for that particular hardware.

From: https://www.gamesindustry.b...

VersusDMC993d ago

I said probably...and with PSVR2 coming out it is more likely.

Maybe they are making a non-VR game as well. Or a VR game that can also be played without VR.

But they bring up VR in the blog post i assume VR is more likely. Hoping to be surprised but not holding my breath.

TheTony316993d ago

They used to work on Wipeout. They have experience with non VR titles.

Ozzy2407993d ago

Wipeout can also be played in PSVR

TheTony316993d ago

Isn't this the former Liverpool studio that made Wipeout? Their logo looks like something out of Wipeout.

Sunny_D992d ago

Bring back Evolution studios as well. If there's a Forza Horizon, they can make a open world Motorstorm for the PS platforms. 🤯

badz149992d ago

@Sunny_D

unfortunately, most of those people from Evolution were hired by Codemasters and now they are all under EA!

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

-Foxtrot1d 4h ago

RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga3h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

Knightofelemia1d 2h ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord7h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame8187m ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks Was Working On 2 Games Before Studio Closure

Tango Gameworks, the developer behind rhythm-based action game Hi-Fi Rush, had been working on 2 games prior to studio closure.

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H98h ago

That's for people who said that Ninja Theory would not get closed because they are working on a new game

1Victor3h ago

Well Microsoft have to plug the holes somehow to appease their investors 🤷🏿

darthv722h ago

Tango was part of Bethesda, that was their call. Ninja is their own thing, and MS lets them do their own thing. MS may own Bethesda, but they let them make their own decisions.

porkChop2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

That is technically true. I do think Xbox can still come in and make those kinds of decisions if they want to though, but it's true that Bethesda has been running themselves. That's how we ended up with Redfall in the first place.

I wouldn't let Xbox off the hook though because they obviously would have known that Bethesda were shutting them down and let them do it. Xbox could have just moved Tango directly under Xbox Game Studios instead.

darthv722h ago

We can only assume as much since we dont fully know the conditions of their partnership. It may be that Bethesda agreed to the merger under the conditions that they still be allowed some autonomy like making decisions for game releases and studio management. Again, that's just a guess but when i see people try and convey that Ninja Theory is in the same boat as Tango... this is what comes to mind. NT is their own entity, under direct management of MS. Tango was not.

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Metal: Hellsinger dev says he is against Game Pass after seeing how it affects sales

Founder of Metal: Hellsinger studio says he wasn't against Game Pass until their game launched on Microsoft's service, which affected game sales.

TheProfessional13h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable? PS Now was before gamepass but it was streaming trash that no one had any interest in.

And honestly the way the industry releases overpriced and broken games with day one season passes and dlc who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall. If it's from an indie studio that needs the sales that's different but games published by larger companies are fine on a subscription model. Also any of these devs who complain did decide to put their games on gamepass in thr first place.

ocelot0711h ago

Ahhh yes the typical but but but Sony in a Microsoft article.

When did Sony copy Microsoft? I havent seen Sony's big day one titles such as God of war Ragnarok or GT7? Do you want to know why they are not on the service? Because people are still willing to PAY for the games. Sony has already admitted they lost millions putting Horizon Forbidden West and Ratchet & Clank on PS+ Extra.

"larger companies are fine on a subscription model" Oh really? So why is all the cod games yet to be on it? Where is elden ring? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Street Fighter 6? Boulders Gate 3? Alan Wake 2? Where are they of gamepass is great and big publishers are fine putting newer games on it?

I'll tell you where they are. They are currently still selling for their respected publisher's. You know actually making them money. That money they can use to fund the next project.

who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

I'm one of the millions who much rather pay $70 so fully support the publisher. Why do we do this? Well for starters I rather just pay for it rather than keep renting it each month. If we all just kept renting years ago blockbuster would still be around. Secondly, I rather we have AAA titles in 10 years time to enjoy. Rather than play mobile quality crap from a subscription.

Tell me how this is a good thing for gaming going forward. The last time I subbed to Gamepass was October 2023. During that one month subscription I played the newly released Starfield, Forza and a few other titles. All for the cost of about $7. Since then Microsoft have not released anything I want to try out or put anything on GP I want to try. So they last made $7 from me 8 months ago.

In the last 3 months. I have bought Sea of Thieves on PS5 (earning MS more money on that than my 1 month subscription to gamepass). Resident Evil 4 for £20 and Diablo 4 for £25 (again earning MS more buying this than buying a sub). Tell me how it's best for gaming I pay $7 and play the latest and greatest for a month. Rather than just buying what I want even if it means waiting a few months and getting it cheaper than full price yet earning the publisher more than renting said games of a monthly sub.

darthv723h ago

...but didn't this game leave GP and then join PS+?

If a sub service is so bad, why get into another one right away?

Cacabunga3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Finally devs waking up! More will follow .. reminds me of capcom during PS3,360 era almost going bankrupt they released extremely poor games because Xbox gave them paychecks not to release them on PS3 for as period. Sales were terrible and they went away from that.

Hofstaderman10h ago

Sony has never released new titles day one. They experimented with Forbidden West which was fairly new and quickly discovered that it cannabalized sales. XBOX gamepass was always an act of desperation to remain relevant and in their desperation they effectively dug their grave where today everybody is biding their time for their formerly exclusive titles. In a nutshell GamePass made XBOX not relevant.

Plague-Doctor273h ago

It wasn't desperation. Subscription Models had a very different outlook in 2017 and then with the gaming surge during COVID reaching critical mass seemed more and more possible.

Phil convinced Satya to chase a trend and it hasn't worked out

lellkay10h ago

Literally dev who put game on gamepass:
It's not good

TheProfessional: but but sony but sony

S2Killinit9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Sony didnt copy MS. MS copied Sony, then MS went on to make xbox a subscription device. Remember that part? Yeah.

MrNinosan8h ago

You're not too bright, right?

First of all, Sony didn't copy Microsoft regarding PS+ and GamePass, which you admit to early in your comment, but with some faults. PSNow was not only streaming.
The mentality at Xbox gamers, is to NOT buy games, because they are used to get it on GamePass, preferbly day 1 like with all Xbox Studios games.

This is not a thing at PS+ and never was.
Sure there was plenty day 1 games on PS+ like, Rocket League, Stray, Sea of Stars, Tchia, Operation Tango etc, but those didn't take away from gamers that it was more like a "bonus" than a "thing".

Playstation gamers buy games, a lot of games and PS+ has been proving to be way better for business than GamePass, both by actually having more subscribers but also no eating up sales.

dveio8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall.“

How can you possibly come to this conclusion?

First, you pay for a subscription.

Then download games. But games will eventually leave the service. You will again need to buy them if you want to play them ever again. Or if you cancel your subscription. Right?

Eventhough this may NOT have an effect on every subscriber, this IS in fact the economical motiviation behind the service like GP.

If you are not already paying "double" this way, you pay at a 1.2 or maybe even at a 1.5 ratio eventually than opposed to simply buying the game in the first place.

As I said, this maybe doesn't apply to every subscriber. But this doesn't erase the fact of this business model existing. And possibly keep growing.

It's driving me nuts at times that especially the die hard Xboxers seem not to understand what they are actually cheering for foolishly.

The Wood7h ago

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders

The Wood7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders. on top of that it seems more devs on top of the devs that have shunned the service are not seeing the value of subs vs actual sales. Sell first, sub later works better than sub off the bat. MSGaming has a major sea change decision to make regarding COD. Do they release it dod and lose a high portion of up front revenue or either up the price of gp on the whole or create an even higher sub tier to cushion the blow or don't release it on gp at all and potentially damage the good will gesture reiterated not too long ago. The acquisition money wasn't free money....they'll have to pick their poison

anast5h ago

"Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable?"

They didn't copy GP. They aren't dumb enough to put their exclusives day 1.

"Who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?"

People who don't like to rent things.

outsider16244h ago

It's funny when he says who wouldn't pay for a subscription instead of paying 70$. Well no shit...if MS keeps releasing average titles who wouldnt..🤣

Cockney2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The reason is playstation didn't copy anybody and they don't release broken games, their games are still not day 1 and Ps players still buy games so ps+ is just an option for those that want a subscription service, the fact playstation doesn’t push it front and centre should tell you a lot.
On xbox gamepass IS front and centre with an option to buy games on the side, look how that is panning out for them!
Xbox fans are the only ones trumpeting this from the rooftops

shinoff21831h ago

Weren't we able to download ps3 on ps3 and ps4 on ps4 systems back then I really don't remember.

Truth is Ms still copied Sony and made a couple adjustments. One adjustment being day one games which clearly has been xboxs issue hence the ps5 releases, and they groomed the base to not buy games.

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Skuletor12h ago

I feel no sympathy for the guy, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting your game on gamepass would affect sales.

JEECE6h ago

Seriously, how is it that devs need one of their games to bomb in sales due to Gamepass for them to realize what so many people could easily predict? Like people joke about "armchair CEOs" on here, but at least with respect to the effect of Gamepass, we keep seeing that the armchair CEOs are actually smarter than the real heads of these indie studios.

dveio10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

The 'day-one' feature is the breaker or maker with GP, business-wise.

GP is no Netflix.

Because, from all the Marvel's Avengers to Sicarios, illustratively speaking, they all had their box office money. Before they had entered Netflix.

This concept shows you what Microsoft have actually put themselves into.

And what situation studios put themselves into if they go day-one into GP.

solideagle5h ago

GP/PS Extra day one is best suited for GAAS or free to play games

truthBombs10h ago

Why not sell your game the traditional way first? Then after about 6 months to a year put it on a sub service.

Day one on gamepass is a gamble. It works for some (Pal world) and not for others.

anast5h ago

It's the old psych. experiment. Set out some candy and tell the person they can have it all now, or if they wait, they can have double the amount. Most choose the first option, then complain when it doesn't work out for them.

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