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Did Microsoft Have an Exciting Line-up at E3? | E3 2021 Reactions I The Co-op podcast

Gary Swaby of The Koalition writes: E3 2021 has kicked off, and the news is flowing at a rapid pace. Earlier today, we finally had the chance to witness the Xbox Bethesda Showcase, followed shortly after by the Square Enix Presents stream. Both shows offered a variety of titles aimed at different fan bases and demographics. But did these conferences live up to our expectations?

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rbailey1089d ago

Microsoft + Bethesda conference was perfectly fine and gave a glimpse into the long-term vision the Microsoft has for some of these studios. Square Enix was disappointing and hopefully, they will show more of the anticipated games people are interested the next time around.

darthv721088d ago

I just watched the xbox show and it was certainly better than expected. The highlight for me is of course halo and forza but also the funny trailer for outer worlds 2 was very clever. Flight simulator finally has a release date and the top gun expansion to tie into the movie is a nice freebie. But that mini fridge at the end... I need that in my life.

medman1088d ago (Edited 1088d ago )

When I initially saw the xbox show, I was a bit disappointed....however, I went back and watched it a second time and there are a lot of very promising games in there. I really liked what I saw from Stalker 2 and Forza, but a game I totally missed the first time was Replaced...that game looks pretty fantastic. There were many other good ones in there too. I think when I watched the show first time I was really anticipating games like Starfield (actual gameplay), Hellblade, maybe even Everwild or Perfect Dark so when those didn't show it was kind of disappointing, but it was a good show regardless imo.

There are so many titles coming to gamepass over the next year and a half it's pretty ridiculous....1st and 3rd party. Crazy. I don't really have a dog in the fight because I usually buy multiple consoles, and I got lucky and snagged a ps5 on launch day and a series x a few weeks after launch, but for me Microsoft delivered what they had to after the dismal showing last July 2020.

DJStotty1088d ago

Gotta admit that Outer Worlds 2 trailer was basically the script for every new game trailer lol

shuvam091088d ago

Heck yeah. It was pretty fun. Without Sony, it was on MS to deliver the stuff. And it was pretty cool ngl. I personally don't have in the Series consoles as I'm primarily PC now, but that waz a great line-up regardless. And more importantly, most of them are coming this year. And to Gamepass too!

itsmebryan1088d ago

I think the show was great. The games had alot of diversity and with 27 included with gamepass was the cherry on top. They put the "Xbox has no games!" Comments to bed for good.

I wonder what they will have on their Thursday presentation

DJStotty1088d ago

I'm guessing on Thursday we may get a few snippets of gameplay from the developer talks, maybe some features of games etc, and hopefully some surprise trailers/gameplay :)

Concertoine1088d ago

My main issue is the lack of new stuff, and the lack of info on 2021 games. What exactly is Scorn? And what about all the pre-rendered/in-engine stuff we’ve alreadg seen? What do Perfect Dark, Fable, Hellblade 2, Everwild, or Avowed even look like? If just one or two of those were shown it would have been a good -> great E3

Sitdown1088d ago

What do you mean by lack of new stuff?

rpvenom1088d ago

Same.. only thing stood out to me was Stalker 2, atomic heart. Forza graphics look great but I'm not a fan of racing sims, halo's showing to me was a deflection of what seems to be no improvements after the last showcase, and other that that.. it was all indie games/party games/kid games and old games being remastered or finally released on xbox. I was really wanting xbox to blow everyone away but maybe my expectations were too high.

DJStotty1088d ago

Forza Horizon is not a racing sim, Motorsport is the racing sim, horizon is more just racing.

Remastered games? indies? kids games?

did we watch the same briefing?

TheOptimist1089d ago

Unironically PC Gaming SHow was the best major show. The others were pretty meh.

Small shows on the other hand felt like actual E3 - Tribecta Games, Devolver, etc were soooooooo much better than all of them.

Even the Summer Games Kickoff was much better but I think my bias may be because of From Soft on that one.

GhostScholar1088d ago

I was not impressed by the graphics at all with Elden ring. The demon souls remake looked a million times better.

Razmiran1088d ago

Well, elden ring is cross-gen

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ChiefofLoliPolice1088d ago

Of course the Demon Souls remake was for next gen only. Elden Ring is a cross gen game and made with older consoles in mind as well.

TheOptimist1088d ago

*claps slowly* for two reasons

1. Demons Souls - A remake made exclusively for PS5
Elden Ring is an original IP made for cross gen consoles

2. "not impressed by the graphics"
From soft has never been about graphics. It has been about an immersive, reactive world with good gameplay and cryptic lore.

I mean, it took two generations to make Demon's Souls look that good. Creating worlds like Dark Souls isn't easy.

GhostScholar1088d ago

I understand that it's cross gen, but there are plenty of ps4 and xbox one games that look way better. Ghost of sushima, tlou 2, forza horizon 4, horizon zero dawn, and sekiro all look better than elden ring. I'm not saying it won't be a good game, I'm just not fan of the look of it.

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CaptainHenry9161088d ago

I was surprised by the PC gaming show. I actually liked it and was definitely better than the previous year's

TheOptimist1088d ago

Exactly. It was a nice surprise. Previously they have been cringe fests with only one or two good announcements.

The only thing missing this time was Persona 5 Royal PC announcement aaaa

When is that coming to PC.

MadLad1089d ago

There were a lot of games shown that I'm excited to see more of. They're even following it up with information on more titles. I thought it was a good show.

It was cool to see Obsidian working on a sequel to Outer Worlds. I liked the game, but it needed to be reworked a bit and more fleshed out. Hoping we see that with this sequel.

-Foxtrot1089d ago

It was...okay

It's just everyone else has been terrible that it stands out more

F0XH0UND9221088d ago

I agree. Their event was one of their best in years but even Sony's bad events were at least on par with the Xbox event. So.many.multiplats.

F0XH0UND9221088d ago

@chief

It's not cap, though.

rakentaja1088d ago

Maybe, but basically everything goes to a Game Pass. This should not be called "just third party games".

GhostScholar1087d ago

That's an interesting take considering most of the games shown by Microsoft were exclusive and on game pass day one. Nice try though. Even sony fan boys are saying microsofts conference was great.

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FinalFantasyFanatic1088d ago

This is pretty much what I've thought, everyone has had a pretty poor showing, and Microsoft actually had a decent showing this year, so they've had the best show of E3 thus far.

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Starfield Would Have Benefited from Daggerfall-Like Dungeons Proc-Gen Instead of Reusing Premades

OnceLost Games, developers of The Wayward Realms, believe Starfield would have benefited from Daggerfall-like procedural generation of dungeons instead of just reusing premade ones.

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VincentVanBro1h ago

One of many low hanging fruit that would have improved the game

anast52m ago

Better tech, better devs, and Morrowind like freedom would have improved this game.

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Mega Cat Studios teams with FNAF creator Scott Cawthon to create a new eerie entry for the franchise, embracing a retro aesthetic.

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Why Microsoft Putting Black Ops 6 On Game Pass Is The Ultimate Test

By putting Black Ops 6 on Game Pass, Microsoft plans to gauge its growth, pricing, and monetization changes, at the cost of less game sales.

rlow12d ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

From MS financial perspective I think it may be the opposite.
A year of GamePass on PC is less than the price of two full price games. For all the people that would have bought COD for $70 but instead started subbing for GP, MS will get an extra $50/year which is good.
However, for each banger that MS puts out, that's lost potential revenue because the GP sub won't need to buy it.
So it only makes sense where the new GP customers would have otherwise not spent more money with MS... Which is the case if MS puts out low quality shovelware.

rlow11d 22h ago

If you’re looking at the short term you are correct. But if Xbox can have multiple bangers then subscriptions should increase. Which is what they want, recurring revenue.

S2Killinit1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I think this is more about microtransactions. MS wants to see if the upfront losses will be offset by more people login into the “free” game and buying more microtransactions to justify not selling as much COD games.

I honestly not sure. I feel like everyone who likes COD is already playing/buying it so I’m not sure how much more engagement they can get by putting it on gamepass. On the other hand, I also feel a lot of COD players are casual gamers, and they are the type to click on anything that is “free” ex: mobile gaming style

Sonic18811d 23h ago

I don't see it working if Call of Duty makes less money and profits over time from gamepass 🤔

blackblades1d 23h ago

I dont understand why have it on it when we all know it sells with the name alone. Seems stupid to lose so much sales and $ just to have it on game pass. They basically shooting themselves in the foot with a already injured foot from all the other times they shoot themselves in the foot.

CrashMania1d 22h ago

@blackblades, that's my exact point, even on xbox where most software sells poorly CoD still sells millions, but the thing is, if you don't put it on GP you kinda shatter the whole idea they've build GP up to be, they've dug this hole themselves.

I think it might tick up subscribers a bit, but warzone is already free and gets millions of players regardless of GP. But where will those extra subs come from? Xbox sales are dropping like a rock, PC gamers are very firmly rooted in Steam and will just buy it there.

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

@black

If they don't include it on Game Pass, they lose the claim of First-Party Day-One on Game Pass, and thus would begin the slippery slope of what's-ok-to-not-include and the devaluing of the service, and further sinking Microsoft/Xbox's already tarnished reputation.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place and this move buys them time to work out more future-math.

crazyCoconuts1d 21h ago

I still expect a price increase in GP to compensate but who knows. With all the factors in play like COD points there are too many variables for someone on the outside to predict what will happen. I assume they have a forecast model where this all looks peachy.

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Garethvk2d ago

When the game does not hit 1 Billion in revenue in under two weeks they will wonder why and the next thing you know; Season Updates will no longer be free.

Noskypeno2d ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

Abear211d 22h ago

Yeah I expect paid DLC and season pass in your face, now you are buying for a game you are renting

neomahi1d 9h ago

That's where they're relying on PC and PlayStation gamers to pick up the slack. They know their business model isn't lasting so in order to give it away "free" for Xbox, they're banking on PC and PS5 customers to make up for the sales loss on Xbox, otherwise they wouldn't be able to pull this off like they want to. Xbots don't see it but, it's their gaming brethren that'll keep their console manufacturer afloat a little longer because the service they hold so dear isn't viable anymore. So, it's by the good graces of their fellow gamers they live to fight another day.

Consumers don't understand how Xbox Game Pass really works. It's not about the volume, and maybe Xbox doesn't want them to know. It's not about how many games you play. Developers don't make money by how many people play their game, it's HOW LONG you play. How many hours to put in.

Customers like David Jaffe that only like to sample don't help the service succed. Jaffe is a cheapskate stoner who spends all his money on Diet Coke, Jolly Ranchers, and weed to fry his brains (it's medically proven, sorry to disappoint) but Jaffe wants as much as he can get for as little so, he's not much of an advocate. But he also plays games for a little while and then gives up, it's just his personality, maybe A.D.D. or something, but Game Pass is dependent on how long a gamer sinks hours in. Why do you think Phil Spencer wants Helldivers 2? Because gamers don't put it down. Hellblade II, they'll play the campaign and then be done. Games like that sink to the bottom of the pile, they disappear. Xbox LIKES Games as a Service business models because it sells their service, but that model doesn't work for Sony, Helldivers was a stroke a luck, lightning that won't hit twice because PS fans don't want that. But that's how Xbox keeps it's games at the top of the list and on their service. The longer you play a single game, that's how devs make money

purple1012d ago

subscribers go up, execs celebrate win, get bonus, price goes up, subscribers go down,

execs dont care, got their bonus,

MrDead1d 23h ago

If it works CEOs and shareholders get a payday and if it doesn't even more studios get closed by MS so CEOs and shareholders get a payday.

Elda1d 23h ago

It will sell on PC & PS but as long as COD is for rent on Gamepass it will not sell well on the XB platform. Most folks such as myself that like COD just for the campaign would rather rent it for that month instead of paying $70 plus tax for the game.

IAMRealHooman1d 23h ago

Your smart.
its 70 for base plus 10 to 20 for a season pass plus another 30 for there better season pass,

darthv721d 22h ago

...now you are finally getting how to use GP. No commitments, just play what is offered. if you like it so much and want to keep a copy for yourself... you can buy it when you want to. I used to buy games based on if they looked appealing and have been burned many times on things. With this, I can try before I buy. And I have actually bought several games after having rented them in the service. It literally is like the old days of renting only you get the whole store instead of pay per rental.

Elda1d 22h ago

I've been knowing how to use Gamepass. I sub the service yearly & I play games on the service that I don't have to pay the full price for such as Persona 3:Reload. I mostly play & pay for games on my PS5 but if a game lands on GP that I'm interested in playing & I don't have to buy a copy for the PS5 I'll definitely play it on Gamepass.

MrDead1d 5h ago

And there you have it, it's like you actively want to destroy the industry. Just rent the games and then buy them, knowing that doesn't happen and the actual cost of pushing a rental service is studios closures and firings.

So far MS has done nothing with Bethesda and Activision except limit where they sell, close successful studies, fire thousands and mass industry consolidation. No new games are being made that weren't already coming and some like Tangos future titles that they were working on we will never get to see now because of MS and their greed.

Massive industry consultation benefits only the company doing it, consumers and the workforce always lose out because of it. What MS is doing leads to cuts and a lesser end product. If MS had spent the money on making games instead of taking them away we would have a far healthier industry, instead we have the same games but with restrictions and a service that has cannibalised sales.

Garethvk1d 3h ago

PC Games are also on Gamepass.

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