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They Knew It Was Wrong. CD Projekt Red Deceived Consumers Anyway.

CD Projekt Red sought to mislead consumers and secure their bonuses when distributing review copies.

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Knightofelemia1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

No Man's Sky all over again I feel sorry for WB publishing the game when WB publishes something its good.

SullysCigar1246d ago

Except NMS is one of the greatest turnarounds in gaming history. Cyberpunk's got a LONG way to go to make good on these crappy launch shenanigans...

Army_of_Darkness1246d ago

I'm better off buying this game next year. Bugs will be fixed, added dlc, plus it will be cheaper.

MadLad1246d ago

CDPR didn't outright lie about the game they were releasing. The content they promised is there, it's just a janky mess.
No Man's Sky was a straight up lie in design and mechanics.
It's different, and I doubt it will take them three years to clean it up, either.

Sunny_D1246d ago

@Ted

They straight up said the game "runs surprisingly well on PS4 and Xbox One"

https://gamespot1.cbsistati...

That was a big fat lie.

RgR1246d ago

@SunnyD

Maybe they meant the pro and XoneX

MadLad1246d ago

@sunny

You need to reread my post and take it for its actual content.
Comparing a company who sold you an entirely different game, based on misinformation given based on its core mechanics, is a little different than saying here's exactly what we said it would be, but it runs bad.
Neither are acceptable, but comparing an unoptimized, buggy game to a complete lie of a product, in and of itself, is far from comparable.

That was my point.

That doesn't make Cyberpunk not a glitchy mess that still needed to cook, and I never said it didn't.

Rocketisleague1246d ago

Nms still missing it's biggest features tho. Any way regardless, cdpr are just as bad here imo. Nms though was easily worse.

These anti consumee practices make colonial marines look good

sourOG1246d ago

I loved Witcher 3 but I was toward the end of my hundred plus hours before they completely revamped the UI. They changed the game with smart fixes. By the time the ps5 version comes out it will be dope.

It still sucks one of the most “pro consumer” companies around still launched it like that and sold record copies on anticipation alone. You don’t have any “well intentioned” friends in business or government that’s for sure. Live and learn protect your neck.

outsider16241246d ago

Not just that..but how many people were working in Hello.

CDPR aren't just some small time developers. They're well well known for their Witcher series, the third winning more than 200 awards.

They knew it wasn't ready, be it PC or Consoles but released it anyway.

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RpgSama1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

NMS lied to us all the way till release, but when it was time to review it, people knew all the issues with that game, with Cyberpunk it was actually even worse, they only gave PC copies to reviewers and did not allow them to use footage from the console version on their reviews, knowing full well that only PC reviews would come before release and the unplayable mess that are last gen version of the game only now we are finding about it.

CPR not only straight up lied to their customers, but also tried to hide the state of their game even after the time of release. Disgusting behaviour

badz1491245d ago

actually it was even worse. the early reviewers weren't allowed to use their own gameplay footage for their reviews, only footage provided and hand-picked by CDPR themselves. so CDPR knew even the PC version was buggy but manipulated the reviewers to garner high scores. most early reviewers sounded the same..."if you're willing to ignore the many bugs still in the game at launch, CP2077 is a great game" which is BS btw and some shameless reviewers even claimed it as the best game there has ever been, masterpiece, setting new standards, unparallelled etc...like WTF?

RgR1246d ago

Comapring this game to NMS is a joke.
The only issue are the bugs. The game itself reviewed great.

And I know a few people with mid powered PC's enjoying this game right now.

RpgSama1246d ago

In current gen consoles it's unplayable and they straight up lied to all of us, because they literally prohibited for people to show the state of the game before release.

RCslayer1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

It reviewed great, yeah 4 out of 10 is great, 2 out of 10 is great, 1 out of 5 is the list goes on. This game is the biggest disappointment in years. CdR knew the game was garbage even on PC and still put it out. My buddy is running it on a cpu he built himself and the game is still garbage. It has been in the works for over 8 years, at this rate they should have released it for the Ps6 and Xbox 1234567 Series ABC by then it might be playable.

cooperdnizzle1246d ago

I have a good pc and it plays like crap and I know it first hand. And my buddy is on a amd rig that is considered better than average and he is having the same problems so try again.

outsider16241246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Then which game should it be compared to? Days Gone? DG got crapped on for bugs and glitches receiving 6s and 7s. Meanwhile CP2077 is 10/10.

Have you played it? Its just not bugs and glitches.

Petebloodyonion1246d ago

@outsider1624
and the game got a 4 from IGN for the Ps4 version.

RgR1246d ago

@cooperdnizzle

I seriously doubt you have a good pc...or if you do then you must be trying to run the game at max settings.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod1245d ago

LOL what? Thye HID what the game was liike, it looks nothing like what they showed, it is missing the things they said it would have. They hid reviews, and profited, this is every bit as bad, stop defending corporations sucker.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Its not just bugs and glitches, the open world is terrible, all window dressing, zero AI, interactivity, roads are empty, uncercooked, no Role playing like The witcher. This game was a scam.

badz1491245d ago

remember Days Gone? that one Sony game reviewers ducked points majorly for being buggy? the current state of CP2077 is so much worse but didn't stop shill reviewers handing out 10/10 eventhough CDPR had them by the balls in their own review by not allowing console version to be reviewed eventhough it comes out the same day, and not even allowing real time footage to be used, only fottage hand-picked by CDPR themselves to boot. what a freakin joke these shameless reviewers are!

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Godmars2901246d ago

Only CD red doesn't have another publisher forcing them to push out their game.

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sagapo1246d ago

Yes and no. Cyberpunk has bugs and framerate issues, No Man’s Sky was barely the game it was announced to be by lacking content.

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anast1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

At least Joel didn't die. Jk This is a let down. Right before the launch, I was talking with some friends about how cool CDPR was. And they decided to go 16xs the detail on us. It's still downloading so I am going to play it or write a crap article about why I decided to be angry. I haven't decided yet.

EmperorDalek1246d ago

Well at least Cyberpunk can be fixed. You can't fix the trainwreck that is The Last of Us 2.

potatoseal1246d ago

Trainwreck? Ohhhhh, you're talking about the Masterpiece that is The Last Of Us 2. The game that won a bag full of awards. Yeah sorry, that game is the opposite of a trainwreck. Maybe you need to get your head read.

Sunny_D1246d ago

You mean they're going to fix the terrible AI in CyberPunk? How long should we expect it to come?

annoyedgamer1246d ago

Thou shalt not speak ill of the master last of us 2 its name is sacred!

Nyxus1246d ago

Nah, it's game of the year.

RgR1246d ago

They could fix it if they do Last of Us content between part 1 and part 2.

But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog. Their animation and graphics and voice acting will be top notch. But will likely have progressive lackluster stories to tell.

hiawa231246d ago

Train wreck? How? For me TLOU2 is the Best GAME OF LAST GEN. GOTY 2020. Amazing game, great story, Love Abby.

BattleCat1246d ago

No problem, cyberpunk will get the trashaward of the year :)

LucasRuinedChildhood1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

@RgR

"But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog"

Neil Druckmann was the main writer on The Last Of Us and Uncharted 4 and co-directed both games. If you think TLOU had a good story, then you think that Neil wrote a good story. It's his world (creative director). The Last Of Us and the relationship between Joel and Ellie would never have been what they were without him. Less feelings, more facts: https://thelastofus.fandom....

He was also a writer on Uncharted 1 and more so Uncharted 2 (obvious he was missing for Uncharted 3) and was a co-lead gamer designer on Uncharted 2.

MadLad1246d ago

90% of N4G will say LoU2 is perfection and point to sales, as they ignore the giant amount of YouTube videos with hundreds of thousands of likes picking the game, itself, apart, and the comments section cementing the fact the game's narrative highly fractured the fanbase.

RauLeCreuset1246d ago

Some of you truly deserve more broken releases like this.

BTW, 60.1% completion percentage for the story completion trophy in addition to the sales. Ghost of Tsushima: 48.9%. FF7R: 54.0%. Don't let that deter you from telling us about your YouTube videos. LMAO.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

Cyberjunk is worst than the GOTY 2020 known as The Last of Us 2. Cyberbug has Heinous graphics, uninteresting characters, bland voice acting, terrible AI and gazillion amount of glitches/bugs. I can't believe I'm saying this, Fallout 76 runs better than the abomination that is Cyberjunk 2077.

SmokinAces1246d ago

"Trainwrecks" don't win game of the year awards, get over it.

OptimusDK1245d ago

@potatoseal - game awards are nowadays popularity contests where the one with most sold consoles winn.
Nothing more to it. But on that conosole you do get the best pick - and i was not TLOU2

Vx_1245d ago

aside from the bugs, It has the worst AI and combat that I have ever seen in any game, to fix that they need to recode the entire game. This crap isn't remotely close to well crafted TLoU2 game.

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IMissJimRyan1246d ago

It is important for the community to learn from the lesson that, in the end, developers need more than one game to prove themselves worthy of trust. CDPR had a great multiplatform game, released full of bugs and with performance problems, and quickly received the same status from giants like Nintendo, Rockstar, Blizzard or Naughty Dog.

The latter have a long history of quality in launch and support. Something that was given true to CDPR for its "friendly" way with gamers. The result is there. Even the apology should be ready before the game is released.

Now we must press for those who want their money back to receive, who want to wait for it to be served (especially console owners) and put CDPR on the level it deserves. To get to the top of the stairs there is still a lot to prove.

Seraphim1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

except CDPR has released 3 games. And when it comes to open world games like Cyberpunk. If not a complete mess they always at least have their fair share of bugs. Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook. They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it.

anyway. why didn't the people who had PC review codes and the big outlets question why there was no console code for review? I'm not in the industry but it seems odd that a multiplatform game like this would have only PC review codes. CDPR are first and foremost a PC developer. They always have been. But why is it that, for instance, IGN, Gamespot, whatever other bigger media places or even mainly console streamers didn't raise more of an alarm regarding there not being console review codes? Maybe it was mentioned but I don't recall ever seeing anyone raise an alarm that there were no console review codes/copies being given out. Right there should be a red flag. We can blame CDPR all we want but that one is something these people and outlets should've realized and dug into some.

IMissJimRyan1246d ago

A really big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN.

Seraphim1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

@ loco. the 3rd sentence I stated "Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook" and followed that up in sentence 4 and 5 by saying "They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it."

So no, it's not, as you say, "a big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN." And seriously. An issue should've been raised by the games media industry for not having console review codes. Instead many of them jumped the gun and posted highly praising reviews. Then, for instance, just today [?] IGN finally posts a scathing PS4/XB1 review. And it's not just IGN. I said all media like IGN, Gamespot, etc and even the streamers. It's just funny/odd how not a single soul wants to point out that not only did CDPR drop the ball but so did these media outlets and streamers. They owe it their viewers to get it right. And bells should been rung when PC review codes were all that were available.

isarai1246d ago

Funny thing is i saw this coming a mile away, not that it would be in such a poor state pe lr se, but that it was too ambitious to provide a solid experience on current consoles, especially given how poorly TW3 launched. I made up my mind to wait tof the next gen versions ages ago, if and when it gets to a stable state.

gravedigger1246d ago

Actually TW3 wasn't that poorly. It had framerate issues ( that swamp area was the biggest problem, well around 20s ), but not so bad like C2077, and surely it's wasn't so buggy like 2077. CDPR fixed TW3 pretty fast, but C2077....it's a case study.

chicken_in_the_corn1246d ago

They didn't really have a choice. Imagine the backlash if they delayed it again

buffig1246d ago

That still sounds like a choice

SullysCigar1245d ago

And the better option by far.

N2NOther1245d ago

Yup. They had a choice and they made the wrong one.

IMissJimRyan1246d ago

Well, Zelda BotW was delayed from 2015 to 2017. They only put the game on the shelves when it was done.

Way worse is to charge full price for a early access game.

IanTH1246d ago (Edited 1246d ago )

I agree CDPR should have delayed it, but I don't think BotW is the same thing.

BotW was a game on a struggling console that Nintendo finally gave up on about the time they pushed the Zelda launch. I'm sure part of that was to add more to the game, but the timing obviously shows us that they did it mainly so that it was available alongside their new console. It was as a shrewd & sensible move, to push their big new Zelda game to help shift units of the Switch.

But also, Nintendo is bonkers rich. They could have Wii U level failures for probably 5 straight console generations and still have money in the bank. They have much less hinging on a single game than a dev like CDPR does.

Cikatriz_ESP1246d ago

Even if they had no choice but to release the game (which is frankly silly), they chose to deceive customers in all the ways highlighted in the above article.

CS71246d ago

Lol.. Or how about not giving a release date till you can actually deliver a project? :O

Do you have a job? Can you give your boss a deadline for a project completion and then ask for extension after extension without consequence?

It is a sign on incompetence. One or two delays yes. But they were not forced to give an original release date.

edwardmde1246d ago

Simple. Release on PC. Delay the rest.

JackBNimble1246d ago

Imagine the backlash of releasing a broken game .

Muzikguy1246d ago

I'm perfectly fine with waiting. No backlash unless people really don't want quality. Sometimes people need to stop and think about what they're doing and why

DragonWarrior191246d ago

There wouldn't be any backlash. Would people have been disappointed, sure but nobody would be raging because they need another few months or more. They lied, plain and simple. It was pretty obvious they were hiding something. Very little gameplay shown and when they started getting questions about the game then it was all about Keanu Reeves which also lead to very confusing marketing as it felt at times like he was the main character.

SmokinAces1246d ago

I imagined all the delays were going to prevent stuff like this in the first place.

VivaLaManual1245d ago

They didn't have a choice but to defraud people? Uh...ok...

JesusBuiltmyHotrod1245d ago

Would we way less then this, stop defending this company.

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Helldivers II sales top 12 million

Gematsu writes: "Cooperative third-person shooter Helldivers II has sold 12 million units as of May 5, publisher Sony Interactive Entertainment and developer Arrowhead Game Studios announced."

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box9h ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic6h ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

gleepot13h ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

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Xbox Gives Incoherent Explanation For ‘Hi-Fi Rush’ Studio Closure

The gaming world is still reeling from the announcement that Microsoft is shuttering Tango Gameworks, the studio behind last year’s big Xbox hit, Hi-Fi Rush.

Reaper22_10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

They have a reason but they don't need to give a explanation. Gamers nowadays think they have a say so in telling people how to run their company. It's not the end of the world, fanboys. Microsoft is gonna due what benefits them the most. It's never been about you. Same with sony. Some of you need to get a grip. The crazy part is that some of the ones complaining don't even own an xbox.

enkiduxiv9h ago

I don’t own an Xbox and I have no real interest in HiFi Rush. I just hate to see a talented group of people lose their jobs when they did everything that was asked of them. You know… the decent, normal reaction to have when something like this happens.

Relientk771d 12h ago

There's no logical or good reason to give for closing Tango Gameworks. They make great games consistently and Hi-Fi Rush was the highest rated Xbox game in literal YEARS. Closing the studio was just plain stupid and nonsensical.

notachance17h ago

It’s quite strange to not see Phil Spencer in any talkshow or podcast… usually the dude would talk almost daily when there’s even a bit of news from xbox.

Hofstaderman16h ago

Muzzled and/or in on it from the very beginning. You have to be a very stupid person not to anticipate that your division is going to be under scrutiny from shareholders after 80 Billion Dollars worth of acquisitions

Aloymetal16h ago

The beauty of being a CEO here in America is that when your company does well, you get extra money as a reward...
And when your company does badly, you get extra money to encourage you to stick around and lead it through the storm...And at some point, you get to bow out and float toward retirement on your golden parachute, which means and you guessed it, MORE MONEY!! What a deal for snake oil man Phil!!

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-Foxtrot11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Oh god no

You see when shit like this happens he throws Sarah Bond to the wolves

Seriously I only hear from her when it’s the yearly big Xbox showcase or when it’s super bad.

When the whole multiplatform release came out earlier this year he put her front and centre…kept his mouth shut for most of it

Michiel19892h ago

weird huh for a president of a division to say thing about said division?

purple10117h ago

Perhaps they think they can sweep this one under the rug, gamers will forget about it,

We will not

They made a good game and you put the whole studio in the bin, this couldn’t be clearer, ms don’t care, everyone suspected it, but now we KNOW it

Amplitude16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

She's kinda got the verbal communication of 3-years-ago Biden trying to say something he knows nothing about.
What she meant to say is: "We wasted our budget for the next couple years buying Call of Duty, and we're moving all our chips to that one series"

It's starting to seem quite obvious that XBox is going to be shutting down most of their studios or selling them off, then focusing on some sort of PC/Console hybrid OS for the next XBox where they can collect royalties Valve style.

esherwood14h ago

To be fair I don’t think there is a good answer, I’d rather her been honest but that probably would have pissed more people of then the word salad route.

Silly Mammo12h ago

Amp- Do you ever get tired of trying to make everything political?

1Victor11h ago

@amp please leave your political red ruby sleepers at the door this is a gaming site or go back to truthfoxnewsmax to comment over there.
BACK ON TRACK
It’s obvious that Microsoft is moving on the money now direction guided by their investors watching all the failures from the 3rd quarter of the 360 gen to this generation I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a plan to replace Phil with Bobby as he proved for years he kept making money for activision.

shinoff21839h ago

Bobby jeez that would be an interesting turn of events and they'd certainly go 3rd party

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