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Halo Infinite Graphics Criticism Addressed by Dev;Game Features a New Acoustic Engine Leveraging XSX

343i's Studio Head Chris Lee addressed the graphics criticism for Halo Infinite. He also discussed the new acoustic engine in the game, which leverages the Xbox Series X improvements to deliver a much more realistic audio experience.

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Cybermario1403d ago

time will tell, but certainly using an old demo (assuming it was one) was a bad call considering the importance of the conference and how Halo is the flagship of the brand.

Daniel21831403d ago

Im sure they’re under a lot of pressure developing a highly anticipated game during a pandemic. Even if the game releases and has improvements patched later it’s not a massive issue .

bouzebbal1403d ago

But the same guy said most ambitious title ever and praised the graphics so much after the gameplay sequence.. Why are they do fond of u turns?? Why can't they get things straight and be honest for once?

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TripleAAARating1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

@Daniel
"Im sure they're under a lot of pressure developing a highly anticipated game during a pandemic."
😆 are you kidding me?? so development started February of this year?...the damage control is real man 😅... even Digital Foundry is defending this with full video analysis coming to the conclusion that the bad visuals is a result of the time of day chosen in its showcase (basically "the lighting") if that doesn't show them up as MS shills I don't know what will...lmao man the game is scheduled to release maybe in 3 or 4 months.

stuna11403d ago

Pandemic this, pandemic that! Sure it's unfortunate that "We all" are suffering, but putting thing in context, we're simply not hearing this complaint from the other console makers to this degree.

I understand teams have to be able to interact and bounce ideal off each other, but Halo infinite has in fact been in development for 5 years, well before any talk of this pandemic. And in comparison to sony showing what they have lined up to release as flagship ip's they have done more with less time during the worst of this pandemic.

All I keep hearing is excuses, when you look from a sane point of view it was Microsoft tooting their little horn and their fanbase running around throwing the confetti! Now it's time to pay the piper and they've got nothing! What's funny is how at the beginning when Microsoft started talking about Series X all we heard was Sony is scared or, Sony has nothing! Ironically Karma is a real %itch in the grand scheme of things, because from my perspective Microsoft is actually in the predicament that everyone thought Sony was in.

Looking to find fault in others, is a easy way to overlook and therefore neglect or even realize that you also have faults as well!

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Jin_Sakai1403d ago

“Im sure they’re under a lot of pressure developing a highly anticipated game during a pandemic.”

The game has been in development for nearly 5 years. They’ve had plenty of development time. The pandemic excuse is growing old.

bouzebbal1403d ago

Horizon 2, Kena, GT7, Ratchet, Cyberpunk, Spiderman say hi!!!

Godmars2901403d ago

They were under a lot of pressure to deliver on this presentation. Period.

If they didn't, are only making excuses for why they didn't, they shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

Poopmist1403d ago

They need to delay the game until the Ray Tracing is done. Too many people on XSX playing the campaign before that is implemented would do too much damage

FGHFGHFGH1403d ago

@TripleAAARating

Well their "analysis" of Gears 5 was basically them just reading a note given to them by the developers. Whenever they talk about some of it's graphics features, they don't show it in the game, they bring up some random picture to show an example of it. He even messed up and says something like "when developing gears 5, we wanted to" like he was part of the dev team.

Unspoken1403d ago

"most ambitious title ever and praised the graphics" except this could still be true of Halo Infinite. You not understanding doesn't mean they lied to you. Yet another toxic trend.

If you can't see how the pandemic has affected all parts of society, and this would include game development, the there might not much hope for you and it's no wonder we are still dragging ourselves through this critical mess.

Digital Foundry bias towards Xbox? I used to not know any better either. Out of the three guys, one likes Xbox, one absolutely hates Xbox and worships Sony, and one really loves tech and he tries to keep the peace.

Notice the person who hates? Yeah that person always, and I mean always hates anything Xbox and will attempt to trash them any chance he gets. Sony fans are toxic.

Chaos_Order1403d ago

"They're under pressure! And the pand-d-d-demic!"

There I was, creating assets for a game when, BANG! Under pressure! My hand slipped and the code went all wrong. I tried to fix it but the pandemic got me down and I started crying at my desk. In a fit of insanity I made the brute look silly and made the draw distance go all out of whack. My only solace was knowing that this was happening to every developer in the world, and nobody would be capable of actually making a game that met expectations.

343, signing out.

conanlifts1402d ago

No, they need to release finished games. I would rather a delay than an unpatched, unfinished game.

Smitty20201402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

How many more times are ppl going to blame the pandemic lol I know nothing about gaming development but am sure ppl have been working from home, and if it wasn’t ready they shouldn’t of shown it in my opinion or at least state it’s in early development

Lostbytes1402d ago

Sure it it is, this trend of releasing unfinished/broken games needs to stop. It is not ok to put out a unfinished product. Just because you can improve it later. (after they have your money) In ANY OTHER INDUSTRY this would be unacceptable.

MajorLazer1402d ago

They shouldn't release it then. Hate the practise of releasing an incomplete and/or buggy game and fixing it later, if at all.

C-H-E-F1402d ago

Ghost Of Tsushima & TLOU2 were developed during the SAME pandemic, CYBERPUNK is releasing the same time as HALO and it's a third party game made for nearly every console. Allowing Microsoft to use these excuses is why they are still in the game industry now. The only thing Microsoft brings to the table is the American Business model.

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@ TripleAAARating

Are you kidding me?

He is literally calling them out for using poor lightning techniques instead of ray traced GI (and calls them out on doing this due to the game starting as One game).
He calls them out on pushing for native 4k instead of reconstruction techniques which is a waste of resources
He calls them out on their plastic materials on the brutes armor
He call them out on their effects work and even mentions how he prefers the ones in previous games
He calls them out on not using self shadows on the hands holding the gun

He gave a very detailed explanation of everything they are doing poorly and how the techniques they are using will look bad, especially when in shadows, and mentions what can be done to improve it.

In their discussion of the showcase they even talked about how it should probably be delayed and also how it was a poor showing overall

How the hell is that being biased?

ForwardDude1402d ago

The pandemic is only since March. 343i only games is Halo and Halo 5 released in 2015 meaning Halo Infinite is in development since at least 2015. They had 5 years to develop the game and only 5 months of that was during the pandemic. Microsoft Team make working from home super easy. They lost probably 2-3 week max to the pandemic. The rest is just excuses.

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djplonker1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

"But while it’s easy to get carried away about the prospect of playing Halo Infinite, it’s worth taking a minute to think about the enormous work put into this playable preview of Halo Infinite. While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!"

https://www.343industries.c...

What was shown was the best they have to show and they admit that they spent alot of time getting the demo area "pretty enough for premiere" yikes......

"while we’re happy with how it’s shaping up, there’s still lots to do! This is just a glimpse of what next-gen gaming looks like!"

LMFAO

stuna11403d ago

People better pay attention and pray this scenario doesn't play out like Crackdown 3! And before the fanatically frustrated rush in to defend, I'm speaking on the developmental nightmare the game went through and also the likely possibility that Halo might not get to much better looking on a graphical level.

RpgSama1403d ago

What a bunch of horseshit, up until 2 days ago this was supposed to be the presentation to DESTROY Sony, now they are making excuses about putting "PRE-ALPHA" running on a PC, only months away from release for a game that has been in development for at least 5 years and it's supposed to have a budget of $500 million, you know how behind they are that they already confirmed that Ray tracing will come out in a patch later after release.

Gamist2dot01403d ago

Damn. They really have low standards for their work. What a damn shame, and it makes me angry.

russo1211403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

@Gamist2dot0

"...They really have low standards for their work..."

It's more than enough for their audience, observed by the amount of damage control all over the web...

potatoseal1403d ago

Holy hell. WOW. I can't believe it. This is bordering on a dumpster fire. We'll see, but I would not be surprised if this game and/or the console was delayed.

rainslacker1403d ago

My God. It's like their standards for next gen are as low as the xbox fanboys standards are.

Sharky2311403d ago

The almighty Phil will Waze his wand and call down the power of the cloud!! Then everyone in MS Land will live happily ever after... THE END!

Just kidding! Lol! No studio head has last two generations at Xbox. They get the messaging so wrong and can’t seem to live up to the hype they create. Then the console doesn’t perform like they want and somebody leaves. I don’t think this will happen to Phil but it will be something to watch.

morganfell1402d ago

"...it took a herculean effort..."

As a gamer I do not pay for effort. I pay for results. I am sure if I went to them and said, "I tried to pay for the game" then they would not just give it to me.

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_SilverHawk_1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

Some people need to stop apologizing for Xbox and realize that they are liars. Reps at Xbox were saying Sony had a bad ps5 showing of their games and how they have a way better show coming up for Xbox but it was all rubbish.

I also see fanatX going on tour to Apologize for halo infinite looking really bad with all sorts of excuses. The reality is that Xbox series x is just a more powerful gaming system to play Xbox one games and there isnt a next generation Xbox. Halo infinite looks like rubbish and the gameplay looks outdated. I know Xbox will have a lot more outdated looking games coming out for a few years so people need to accept it that Xbox isn't as good as Playstation

gamer78041403d ago

So one game looking unpolished defines all of the rest of the games? That’s your argument? sounds like you need to go on tour as well....

Zeref1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

Xbox showcase was better.
Gears 4 looked bad before it launched to.

This was a demo. Too early to judge. Even the trailer they showed after the showcase already looked a little better.

Atticus_finch1403d ago

Yea one game, because that's the only gameplay they showed.

chiefJohn1171403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

The showcase was better! And the graphics of one games demo not being up to expectations does not diminish everything about the show

BLAKHOODe1403d ago

Ratchet & Clank at the PS5 showcase blew everything away that Xbox showed. R&C legit got me excited for what's to come with next-gen gaming. The Xbox showcase just reminded me it was nice to already have an Xbox One X.

WillyC0091402d ago

How anyone can actually claim the Xbox show was better is truly baffling. It was utterly pathetic. One game showed some real gameplay, and it was awful. The rest were CGI, mostly not on Xbox and the only one that was remotely interesting was Fable.

Never change people, it’s like Xbox is a cult.

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Zeref1403d ago

Remember how gears 4 looked before launch?

Master-Tonberry1403d ago

Yes I do remember. It looked about 100x better than Halo Infinite and that was 5 years ago.

Atticus_finch1403d ago

Was gears 4 running on 12tf.
Just stop bro.

rainslacker1402d ago

It looked better than the halo demo, and while the dialogue was cringe worthy, it had better cinematics and IMO more exciting game play. Not that I'm an aficionado of FPS or anything, but I've gotten more excitement from any given years COD trailers.

King Nezz1403d ago

Exactly my thoughts. Sony has their loyal customers and fans in droves that will be there. While Microsoft has those too, I don't believe it's anywhere near Sony's. Microsoft has to be aggressive and precise. And they are not that.

The showcase was disappointing for me. I would have preferred a few minutes of actual gameplay from Forza and other 1st party games. I know that a lot of them are early, but potential adopters of the Series X are looking for something that will put no doubt that Microsoft will deliver this upcoming generation before they drop whatever amount of cash the next Xbox costs. I do believe they will deliver with the Series X, but then again, I have always preferred Xbox consoles over any other.

Minute Man 7211402d ago

Yes 100% correct. Need to see what both systems can do before shelling out $500.

medman1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

Man, I thought the days of the good old xbox done jokes were behind us, but man....Microsoft is working feverishly to bring the memes back with a fury!

rainslacker1402d ago

Maybe they're purposefully trying to do as poorly as possible to see how far they can go...because the launch of this gen may have just been a fluke and they need more data.

If that's the case, then it makes sense.

Either that, or they want to look really bad so they can turn it around later and say how they're listening, and how great they are, and phil can get some more smoke blown up his a**. That hasn't worked well for them this gen, but maybe next gen will be different. Just wait for it, and then we will see.

amazinglover1403d ago

Game begun planning in 2015 and likely didn't start development in earnest until 2016 or 17. For current gen so I have a strong feeling what we saw was more indicative of what the One X will be like then the series X. Still a bad decision too show it regardless. Especially since the pandemic may make it harder for devs to get it working on dev kits while working from home so late in the development cycle.

Graphically no next gen game for either system has wowed. Though Ratchet and Clank did show us the best example of how the SSD can be leveraged.

mkis0071402d ago

This was a series X event Everything should be indicative of series X graphics of those games. If not then it's incompetence at best.

Teflon021402d ago

Ratchet didn't wow!? Lol

The thing I don't get is how are ppl using Covid as an excuse like Sony didn't have to deal with the same issues and still provided quite a bit of gameplay in comparison lol.

DOMination-1403d ago

Game looks stunning. Not sure what all the fuss is about, the difference in quality is obvious

Xbox Series X
https://magarticles.magzter...

Sony Playstation 5
https://i.insider.com/5eeb6...

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akurtz1403d ago

the fact that youre comparing both those games is sad.

unless you forgot /s?

Felix3131403d ago

@Global it's called Busnax from the makers of Octodad (a small independant studio)

SyntheticForm1403d ago

This is the most blatantly disingenuous post I've seen on N4G, and I've seen a lot.

AmUnRa1402d ago

O please stop...making a fool of your self, look at a Screenshot of R&C ore Horizon and than come back to defend your post....

WillyC0091402d ago

Lol, nice spin bud. Now put that scene up against a cutscene Ghost of Tsushima. Halo looks like trash next to that.

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rainslacker1403d ago

It does have to be pretty disheartening to have all this criticism thrown at the game after working on it for so long.

Minute Man 7211402d ago

Hell no they deserve it. They must have garbage artists

rainslacker1402d ago

Probably not garbage, but they do seem to be really behind schedule.

This is one of those times where a bit of humility goes a long way to quell the criticism.

Unfortunately, this isnt some random disappointing occurence, and this game was hyped up before the show
That's not all the devs fault, but the dev hasn't shown any humility here.

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Muzikguy1403d ago

All I heard for weeks was how Sony was supposed to be worried lol.

mkis0071402d ago

So true, and frankly I thought MS had to have something substantial with all the rumors and hype going around . A lot of it was direct from xbox too. I'm starting to think Phil doesn't get it, and his gamer personality is just for show.

SyntheticForm1403d ago

I was really looking forward to seeing the potential of Slipspace Engine...

...it's not what I had in mind.

QUIMICOMORTAL1403d ago

There's no justification for this, it wasn't a live event, so they didn't really needed it to be a demo. And not running it on a series x is suspicious of not concerning.

Seraphim1402d ago

if it's not ready to show or up to par then don't show it. Simple as that. The E3 trailer/teaser last year [?] was phenomenal. For a game supposedly releasing Holiday 2020 it's a bad look. A portion of the game should be far along enough to be a good example, a showcase of the actual game.

After reading some comments.
Pandemic? Yes it's a real issue causing delays and hiccups in the gaming world. But every single developer seems to have gotten over and past that. There maybe some outliers but at worst it sounds like some schedules have been pushed back 3 months. Development teams were quick to setup work from home and video chats for necessary meetings.

Digital Foundry saying the time of day. This is a showcase piece so even if that were the case the developers should've altered the time of day to make the game look better. They control the scene. honestly I call BS though I do admit there can be a drastic difference between time of day in game.

JimmyDM901402d ago

The fact that Halo Infinite was designed for Xbox one and is still a cross gen game is what’s really hurting it visually.

The compromise of keeping it on Xbox one means it’ll never compete visually and technically with next gen exclusives.

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ccgr1403d ago

Hope they make their Halo fan base proud

russo1211403d ago

They lost that hability since x360.

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AuraAbjure1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

I am proud of them. They did away with the squeaky hit marker and shield regeneration sound effects from Halo 5. Should be a great game now :)

solideagle1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

343i thinks that this demo was well polished and took hell a lot of effort. If you take "Halo" name away from that demo, I am pretty sure non-halo fans would think its an Indie game. This game was in development since 2015 and Mr. Green is giving excuses of "pandemic" which in my humble opinion is lame.

I wonder if they were to make a brand new IP than Halo. I think it's time for Xbox fans to call out Phil's lies.
Remember he said he feels confident after Sony show or the most powerful console ever. Halo was not even running on XSX, that is very embarrassing.

Now the new controversy is this new "10-year plan" halo as platform aka Destiny clone...yikes.

I hope they sort this out or delay the game to make it better for Halo fans.

IRetrouk1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

Sounds like damage control to me, the game is what it is, own it and move on, wont stop it being fun.

"The gameplay demo is a great example of how we're running on Xbox Series X, you'll be able to run at a solid 60 frames per second at up to 4K resolution."

A good few users were saying all ms first party titles would be native 4k 60fps, guess that narrative is now truly dead and buried.

Still wont stop it being fun or a good game.

djplonker1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

See my reply to cyber above to see what 343 had pre-written about the demo.

Hint: Its the most polished thing they have and is meant to "give us a glimpse of what 'next gen' loos like" they were more than happy with it apparently.

IRetrouk1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

I have not long read that, didnt think I could get any more flabbergasted, I was wrong. Also robbed to make a point 🤣👍

ForwardDude1402d ago

The best part:

"I can’t wait for the world to see what we’ve been working on. It’ll be so cathartic for everyone to see the hard work we’ve been doing all this time. I want to give Halo fans the chance to come back to that feeling, a feeling that I’ve been waiting for too."

Cathartic it is... for Sony Fan. Is disapointed the feeling he is talking about?

Atticus_finch1403d ago

This is were all the bragging about TF and "the most powerful console" bites them in the ass.
No excuses 😂😂😂

IRetrouk1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

The nothing gets held back by being cross gen is out the window and all😂

Poopmist1403d ago

No way it's steady 4K on even the highest of high end PC's after RT is implemented

Atticus_finch1403d ago

The footage we saw was on PC and probably not a cheap rig. Not very promising.

AuraAbjure1402d ago

If it's just ray traced global illumination and the XSX really boasts the new RDNA2 instruction set architecture I believe it can probably do 4k @ 60 FPS with no split - screen enabled.

specialguest1403d ago

It's going to be a fun game, but it sounds like they can't push better graphics and maintain native 4k at 60fps

IRetrouk1402d ago (Edited 1402d ago )

It's not native 4k

"The gameplay demo is a great example of how we're running on Xbox Series X, you'll be able to run at a solid 60 frames per second at up to 4K resolution."

Quote is from the article.

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SpaceRanger1403d ago

So somehow they’re going to re-haul graphics and overall performance over the next few months? The amount of pop-in was bad, the shadows and texture were bad, the landscape looked like it was copy and paste.

I don’t know how MS can tout the XSX as a powerful console and then the fanbase being okay with them showing an “old build” like that at that big of an event.

morganfell1403d ago

First of all the excuse of "an old demo build" doesn't pass the smell test. Think about the logic of that. The biggest show case for them this year, and the one in a console launch year and the decision made is to use an old build. If someone chooses to believe that then it says these are the most incompetent people in the world. It is either one or the other. It isn't like you picked up the wrong remote in the dark to change the channel. This is a video that would have been reviewed by several people including Phil so stop with the BS already.

Second I have to wonder if the entire game is going to launch this fall. There has been no sign of multiplayer, no beta stress test, and just as important no announcement of a MP beta. If I were to guess I would say that part of the campaign and maybe a partial multiplayer will launch. There has been a lot of talk about this being an evolving process and they have done this for a reason.

Father__Merrin1403d ago

I think it will be delayed or it will be launched in a broken state i.e. multiplayer come after and maybe some of the missions missing etc also RTX effects can come at a later date

phoenixwing1403d ago

morgan i don't disagree on the demo part and as for your suspicion its unfinished they already verified it by saying they're releasing content like destiny does. basically copying destiny and fortnite. gaas full steam ahead

IRetrouk1403d ago

Being an old build 100% does not pass the smell test lol, the dev literally contradicts it with this statement

"While this is just a section of the final game, it took a herculean effort to make sure this little corner of our Ringworld was polished and pretty enough for its premiere!"

How can it be an old build🤔😏

morganfell1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

@IRetrouk,

Good catch. That in and of itself is an indictment.

Found the link here and they specifically link the demo as well:

https://www.343industries.c...

So much for damage control...

IRetrouk1403d ago

There is a real effort to control it, without a doubt there man.

morganfell1403d ago

It’s time for a major website to show some journalistic integrity, not mince words and on behalf of gamers formally call out Greenberg for his lying to the public. It’s PR is not an excuse and it is wrong. This sort of thing continues from all companies because no one ever does anything about it. Here they are attempting to deceive an entire generation and it’s time for him to get clocked.

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IRetrouk1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

Morgan
as much as I agree, it will probably never happen, not enough people ever speak up when needed, see it all the time.

Global
Yeah kind of, they are just trying to soften the blow of how disappointed people are with how the game runs and looks, they are just doing a bad job of it, contradicting each other etc.

morganfell1403d ago (Edited 1403d ago )

IRetrouk,

I know they will not because my own statement carries the reason. Journalistic integrity required.

343 may be telling the truth as far as they understand. Maybe they really do think that video is next generation. I stated it the other day, the management at 343 in charge of hiring and assisting development talent need to be fired. They have had 3 games and a decade to get it right. They haven’t succeeded.

Regardless their own webpage clearly shows Greenberg is lying. That’s in addition to the smell test. The issues in that video are unmistakable. You can’t not see them. With that in mind consider there is no way, absolutely no way Phil Spencer got up to address the gaming world, the entire world without having seen that video at least a week in advance. He has been privy to dev builds since the beginning. Either he didn’t understand what he was looking at which makes him the wrong person to run Xbox, or he didn’t care...which makes him the wrong person to run Xbox. Gamers can pick one.

IRetrouk1403d ago

All fair points and observations, I'm not really sure who's to blame, whos really in charge etc, I just know I dont like what I'm seeing.

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Father__Merrin1403d ago

This is pure damage control there's nothing else for it is just damage control

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Halo Infinite's Split-Screen is One Step in The Right Direction

Halo Infinite has spilt screen PvP, but it's still missing another classic multiplayer feature that should be completed before Halo 7.

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Jin_Sakai3d ago

Putting on PS5 is another step in the right direction so the player base can grow.

anast2d ago

How many years has it been?

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken3d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty3d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken3d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai5d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H94d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1014d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H94d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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