Cheating Worsens In Call Of Duty: Warzone, Crossplay Blamed By Fans

DownSights writes "Cheating in Warzone seems to be getting worse, and many players are blaming crossplay. Meanwhile, as ex-hacker has also shared this thoughts on the situation."

[Rude-ro]

Yeah it sucks that not only do you have to pay to play free to play games.. but then Microsoft forces you to play crossplay with pc as well.

Hope they get an option to turn it off soon.. and get rid of the pay wall as well.

[Angelin]

By ‘you have to pay’ you mean ps plus? You don’t need it to play warzone

[sampsonon]

No. Read his comment again. He's only talking about Xbox.

[spicelicka]

People are foaming at the mouth with their "I KNEW CROSSPLAY WAS BAD I TOLD YOU" comments but it's not a crossplay issue really, it's just a lack of options.

Give the option to turn off crossplay with PC and separate playlists by controllers, M/KB, and controllers+M/KB. That's the best way.

[kayoss]

If you turn off Crossplay, then why even have crossplay?

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

COD Warzone bombards you on PS4 to enable crossplay - while you're selecting to turn it off, while you're finding a lobby, when you finish a game.

I'm against crossplay 100% - but it is what it is.

Just give players the option who they are crossplaying with.

[bradfh]

crossplay people wanted to play with friends, I have no friends so i dont want Crossplay on

[Mr_cheese]

"It's not a cross play issue"

"give the option to turn off crossplay with PC"

Sounds like a crossplay issue

[spicelicka]

@everyone

I meant you shouldn't be forced to have crossplay. It was always pitched as an option if you want to play with friends on other platforms. What are you guys talking about? That is not a crossplay issue.

[sampsonon]

Wait a second? MS didn't get the option to turn crossplay with pc off?
PS4 has the option. And my is set to no crossplay.

[Hugodastrevas]

PC is a mess, there should be no crossplay between pc and consoles in the 1st place.

[AnubisG]

That's not whag people said when everyone was demanding cross play.

I truly enjoy this crying now as I warned people that this will happen and everyone called me an idiot. People got what they wanted.

[spicelicka]

Meh I love being able to play with friends on other platforms. You can use a controller on PC and they should force people to use controllers if they wanna crossplay with consoles, it's an input issue not a crossplay issue.

[porkChop]

Here's what I find hilarious. When MS started pushing cross play all the PS fanboys kept going on and on about how Sony had already been doing cross play with PC for years. It was the go to response.

Now suddenly cross play with PC is bad and MS gets the blame even though apparently Sony pushed PC cross play first.

[zackeroniii]

well if we truly analyze your response, then it appears that you believe MS started crossplay first. you are hinting that MS fans wanted the credit for fighting for crossplay.

so since that is basically what you are saying, then Microsoft is truly to blame

so there I give you guys credit for this...

[porkChop]

What are you talking about? I'm not saying MS started cross play. You missed the entire point of what I said. Read my comment again. It's not about who started first, it's about PS fans flip flopping over cross play.

First they didn't care about cross play with Xbox because they already had it for years with PC. But now they don't want cross play with PC. And they're blaming MS for it, even though they had it before MS started pushing for cross play.

[twiggytree12]

People brought up PC crossplay because fanboys like you were saying Sony was anti-crossplay, which was hilarious. The part you're leaving out is how many pointed out that crossplay was not a big deal, nor desirable and they didn't want more of it. Quit with your cherry picking bullshit.

[porkChop]

1) I haven't cherry picked anything. I brought up the points that are actually relevant. But sure.

2) The only Xbox product I have is a controller. Meanwhile I've bought every PS system at launch or near launch. I play the majority of my games on PS, and plenty of my favourite games are PS first party. So what exactly am I a fanboy of?

3) I didn't say Sony was "anti-crossplay". They had cross play. They just initially didn't want to support full cross play with all platforms, which I thought was a bad decision.

4) Everything you've said is irrelevant. Sony had PC cross play first. Correct? We all know they did because no one would shut up about it. So if Sony had it first, why is MS getting the blame? Where is the logic in that?

[twiggytree12]

1) You brought up points but withheld critical information as far as what people were actually saying.

2) Moot point. Anyone can sit here and claim to have whatever they want sitting in their house right now. Your behavior is what I base this claim off. Every time I see you comment you're doing your best to put Sony as the bad guy.

3) Sure. Not digging through your history to verify everything you've said on the subject.

4) Everything I said is relevant to contents of your reply to a comment that had NOTHING to do with Sony or MS. Yes, Sony had it first. Nobody is blaming MS for crossplay, in fact, the only complaint i'm seeing is that MS wont let users turn off crossplay. People just want an option, what's wrong with that? Sony lets people turn off crossplay on Call of Duty but MS doesn't. That's the complaint here....

[TheColbertinator]

Crossplay has been an odd subject to both Sony and Microsoft. Crossplay has been on Playstation consoles since Final Fantasy XI so it is not too surprising seeing that on Playstation consoles.

[A-stil_Tv]

My thought exactly is PC cross play is Pandora's box in the worst of ways ..console players have only really ask for crossplay between ps and xbox.. tbh

[Abnor_Mal]

Regardless to how many people are banned for cheating, over seventy thousand I believe, the cheating will continue.

People can easily create a new account and continue cheating. No amount of moderation will be enough because not everyone reports cheating and mods can not see every complaint.

The only way to combat it is by cutting ties with the PC community.

[porkChop]

They can combat it by banning the MAC address that's hard-coded into your network chip.

[Abnor_Mal]

First let me start by putting my ignorance on Front Street, and state that I have very limited knowledge of computers and all its jargon.

I do not think that Activision would actually go that far, correct me if I'm wrong, but the MAC address is how a particular computer is identified? If so, then if that MAC address is banned that means a person would not be able to even create a new account but would need a new computer to play on?

I ask because if they were to ban people on the MAC address level as I believe how it works, wouldn't that mean they (Activision) would have less people in their PC servers along with the cross play servers?

I don't think Acti would want to do that much damage to their own game as to permanently ban a computer. Rather if I understand correctly banning from the players IP address give the player a chance to make a new account. If the cheaters IP is banned enough times they may decide it is too much effort to keep creating new accounts to cheat and stop and play correctly.

That way Acti keeps a high player base on their servers whether PC or cross play servers (?). Plus they get to boast of high player engagement due to all the new accounts made by the cheaters to continue to cheat.

I maybe totally wrong in my skewed understanding of PC gaming and computers in general, so feel free to correct me if I'm totally of the mark.

Hopefully my ramblings made some sense.

[jelloaceomega]

Pffft MAC address, I guess you never heard of a Linux running a virtual machine of windows or vice versa. 😂

[ecchiless]

pff https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Picture_Dancer]

Just make requirement to verify your accout with phone number and email. If you cheat both of them is getting banned. It's not than easy to get new phone number.

What is more make a 30-40 min tutorial, that you have to finish.

All those layers would discurage many, many cheaters.

[SierraGuy]

Ya right I can spoof random Mac address' in my sleep.

[porkChop]

Yeah, you would need a new network chip. But I'm saying for repeat offenders, not for every cheater. And obviously only for the specific game they were cheating in.

[Abnor_Mal]

Yes, we're both talking about repeat offenders and this specific game.

I don't think they would consider banning a person across all their games. Although didn't EA, I think, ban some one for harassing their devs over a Fifa game across the board?

Anyway thanks for the answer back, even though I have no clue what a network chip is, lol.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Console players always think people who use mouse and keyboard are cheating, so nothing new here. By the way, PC players have been complaining that the auto-aim is so hardcore for people using controllers, that it's almost like using an aim-bot. I've been playing Gears 5 on PC using my Xbox One controller, and I haven't had any issues being up towards the top of the stack every game. As they say, get good!

[AnubisG]

Just a question;

Is it easier to cheat on PC or consoles?

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I couldn't tell you, you'd have to ask the people who cheat.

[ecchiless]

PC is simple, very simple, you dont even need to cheat to know that.

[Giblet_Head]

Should just make it controller focused across all platforms. It's no fun using keyboard and mouse against purely controller players. Like putting down a sick animal with slow reaction time. Takes away all the satisfaction of an earned kill.

[Picture_Dancer]

The biggest advantage PC players have is FOV settings and not mouse + keyboard.

I'd rather play on controller with 100 FOV, than mouse+keyboard with 60 FOV.

[SegaGamer]

If N4G is anything to go by, console players think ALL pc players are cheats. There are obviously a bunch of cheats out there, but the majority of pc players aren't cheaters.

[MonsterChef]

You're right @SegaGamer, But the majority of cheaters are PC gamers.

[SegaGamer]

@MonsterChef

Only because the devs haven't created effective anti-cheat software. Let's not pretend console gamers are any different, I remember how bad things were on the 360/PS3. COD games were awful when it came to cheaters and GTA 4 and 5 were possibly the worst of the lot.

If console gamers could easily cheat, they would. Gamers aren't different because of the platform they choose to play on.

[Clunkyd]

You're really trying to damage control PC cheaters? LMAO
That's just sad.

[J-DARKnes]

Be careful what you wish far... I turned off cross play from day one.

[Deathdeliverer]

That’s an option?!

[Welshy]

On PS4 and I assume PC, yes you can disable it. You're forced to use crossplay on Xbox for Warzone or Ground War mode.

I have no problem playing other consoles where both input method and graphics are on even ground, but I nope out once PC is involved.

I have no desire to play KB&M, 144hz, 300fps, aimbot using sweat lords in my online shooters on console.

[Whitey2k]

There should be crossplay between xbox and playstation on all 3rd party multiplayer games. Pc should stick with other pc gamers

[AnubisG]

Why not Switch as well?

[Welshy]

Switch is at a disadvantage compared to PS4/Xbone, not to the same degree as PS4 is to PC, but a disadvantage nonetheless.

Using Rocket League or Fortnite as an example since they're on Switch with crossplay, 1080-4k PS4/Xbone with a proper controller vs 720p or less with JoyCons on Switch is just a washout.

[FPSFox]

People blame PC, but honestly, it's mostly greedy devs that are CHOOSING to let these people come back with the hopes of them making purchases. Do you think it's an accident that people can simply buy a new key in say, BF3, and be up and running again in the same day?

Devs have the ability to see a system's unique ID, just like Windows does, asking you to re-register every time you change out a piece of hardware. Adobe is another example. When your trial of Photoshop or After Effects runs out, you can bet you're not signing up with a new email address. They'll stop you.

[franwex]

I am suspecting that too. It’s the developer. Except that I think non cheating players actually buy more content than cheating ones. If they don’t get tough to cheaters it could prevent sales.

[Deathdeliverer]

Let’s be real. The PlayStation has more than enough players to never see the same guy again. Same for PC, and save for Xbox. What’s was the reason for crossplay? Racism is straight up bonkers now. I can literally count the racist voice chat/text I’ve received on PS3 and PS4 COMBINED on two hands. That’s years of gaming. I’m out of fingers on Xbox one from KI alone at launch. No bs, just straight up real talk. Call of duty on PS4 is a cesspool of racism. Never the PS logo (in my experience) next to them either. Not all Xbox here though, PC is just as guilty. It was expected though cause I’m also a League of legends player.

Add to that the hacking of PC players and you have a fun mess. I love the newest COD. I took a FPS hiatus and missed more than a few numbers in the series, but the beta sold me on this one. Glad I got it and “money’s worth” is an under statement. Crossplay, however, brought nothing to the game for me and only worsened it. Since the gates are open it is what it is and they will never close again, but damn I miss closed Ecosystems already.

[jmtstan]

yeah, even the switch version of jedi academy same situation since its cross play with PC platform... you can't beat KB+M when comes to shooter games

[SegaGamer]

Keyboard and Mouse has nothing to do with it. PC players that played against Switch players were beating them because they have been playing the game for years.

Also, you can beat a keyboard and mouse user with a controller in shooters. You're not automatically invincible because you use a keyboard and mouse.

[Welshy]

KB&M vs controller obviously isn't just insta-win, but you're delusional if you don't think it's a head and shoulders advantage.

Even middle of the road KB&M users can be vastly more accurate than great controller users. This isn't my opinion, it's just objective fact about the nature of both input methods.

[MonsterChef]

Dude why are you so up in arms defending PC gamers? No matter how you spin it, there's a degree of fidelity that a KB+M gives you over a controller. While you can technically beat a KB+M player with a controller, the chances are not fair or leveled.

[jmtstan]

from my experience... I was playing COD games on PlayStation system for years... so one fine day I reinstall black ops on pc, I was able to get many head shots with KB+Mouse setup with ease. So its no denying that playing FPS with KB+M much easier than controller.

[dreamed]

Christ I don’t have enough time to play games,properly...let alone having to create 10+accounts a day....look I used to pinch money when the banker in monopoly wasn’t looking when I was five....but jeez what’s up with modern day game cheaters these days?...very dedicated to messing up everyone’s fun/spare time....asshats...😂

[DJStotty]

Cheating has always been in COD, well before crossplay.

Hacked lobbies, aimbots, spawn trapping, lag switching.

This isn't news..

[Thundercat77]

Interesting how some people were asking for crossplay and now they want to cut it after calling companies "anti consumer" for not wanting this mess in the first place.

[sampsonon]

not for me. I just clicked a button and my ps4 plays against consoles only. :)
Ahh! the benefits of console gaming.

[DFresh]

Good thing I don’t play this trash 🗑 franchise anymore.
Call of Duty sucks!
😂