Xbox Game Pass is a sustainable business venture, Xbox head Phil Spencer told Stevivor.
IGN interviews Xbox boss Phil Spencer at IGN Live 2024.
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at this point, its just so odd.
yes, this showcase was one of the better ones, but how in the hell do you close it out with the 600 money console and 2 others lol who signed off of this.
like the amount of bs coming from phil and the other one is just .. i cant.
also, did you notice that all of the xbox exclusives are on gamepass day one? like all of them haha how do they even make money off of them.
that being said, why are there always interviews after their shows haha. and the ign livestream was even sponsored by ps5 haha cant make this shit up.
"also, did you notice that all of the xbox exclusives are on gamepass day one? like all of them haha how do they even make money off of them."
By making them available at full price on other platforms like PS5 and PC (those who refuse to use anything else other than Steam)
isnt gamepass on pc too tho?
and some.of the games havent been confirmed for ps5 either xD the exclusive ones i mean.
@ Gold Drake
yes game passes on PC and it's actually very affordable since you don't actually have to pay any money.
With all the recent shenanigans by both platforms I'm convinced I do not need to buy another console. I just need to buy a powerful enough PC to run these games once and I'm all set for the next two or three generations. I wasn't sure with PlayStation but they pretty much made it pretty clear that they're going to release all of their games on PC eventually and maybe you have to wait a couple of years but with the number of games that you can get a high quality and the huge backlog people have including myself there's just no need to be so concerned about missing out.
I've noticed they investing in games to be on gamepass making no money still trying gain new members and its not working. While ps investing in games from asia countries to bring to us.
yeh its quite odd. cause im sure people would have bought games like cod and indiana jones.
oh well.
I mean its clear what they are doing. Right now Xbox still has quite some hardcore fans that you can actually sell an overpriced console to. That won't be possible in a few years, so that's what they will be doing for now.
Yeah, they both might buy the $600 box, but it won't change anything for Xbox as a whole.
Why worry about the trillion dollar company, they obviously have a plan that they are comfortable with, let's say that plan fails (I don't think so but) OK so they cancel GP bc they lost lets say billions= M$ will be just fine. In the meantime we(GP members) benefit= I've been gaming 30+ yrs I've never played so many great games for so little money. Save me the conspiracy stories, Ive been gaming too long, gaming evolves but never dies, devs & new devs come & go, there will always be gamers, so there will always be too much money to be made WITH OR WITHOUT M$, Sony or Nintendo; So it's simply crazy to me how any consumer argues against a company offering easily the most consumer friendly *OPTION in the history of gaming.
Agree, I don't understand why people are worried about how MS or Sony are making money? Like is it your dads company or what? They don't give a damn about you and neither should you.
I must however say, to keep people subscribed to GP, a steady flow of new games must come at all times and it shows that MS games lack the quality that Sony puts out because their games are probably rushed out.
Another thing is that you don't own your games. So the day you cancel your subscription, bye bye games.
this is a forum where people post their opinions.
but im glad ur so zen u dont think about these things.
thourghly agree, im a ps fan but still, i've always said, if you play loads of games, then gp is a good deal. its just for some who only play a couple a year, its not, so the option to buy physical should not go away, however good the deal is , for some.,
Wow 4show,
That was an absolute spot on comment...I agree with it 1000 percent.
By:
1. Hiking up the price of GP
2. Releasing the game on competing consoles
3. Hoping the investors don't notice
Sure... a dozen promises....he's doing so terrible...what will we ever do...
Or maybe you're still recovering from the showcase.
Hello- This time last year MS had a good showcase and it was hailed as the thing that would turn Xbox around. A year later, Xbox console sales are dead, GP subscription growth is stagnant and MS exclusives are going multiplatform. Yeah everyone is shook by their showcase.
At the end of the day those metrics are only politics, possibly not all accurate, and have zero affect on how much we enjoy our consoles, with Phil saying Xbox now has more users than ever before in this IGN interview. Sony talking points that try to say "Sony sells more, must be the best" even though the platform is completely boring atm
Ill be enjoying playing all these games for a small subscription price...which Sony can't afford to replicate on PS plus...while you beg for a single game to release for 70$.
I don't know why there's so many Xbox fans out there convinced that somehow the games shown on this Xbox showcase is a jab towards PlayStation. The majority of games shown are coming to Playstation for sure and including Xboxes recently purchased first party those are probably also coming to Playstation at some point which is hilarious. Because this basically means that we are now convinced that if you do like console gaming the better option is to buy a PlayStation. It's inevitable that these games will come out on more platforms because they cannot make enough money off of Game pass to cover the costs of these games so they have to release it on more platforms. Right now it's a standard that they release it on PC so going for PC only is also a good option since both consoles will be releasing their games but if you are just a stickler for console gaming then PlayStation is probably the go to place because eventually all of the Xbox games will make their way to playstation. And this isn't cope since I don't have a dog in the fight.
Sony needs To step up and communicate with us like Xbox does. Look at their recent showcase and look at ours…its a joke. You can knock xbox all you want but they have a plan while us ps5 owners are left playing 3rd party titles and left wondering whats coming from first party.
I prefer 5 3rd party exclusives out this year on PS5 over only Hellblade 2 so far on Xbox.
They're waiting for the Pro reveal. If they save all their heaviest hitters for that, everyone will want the Pro. They also forced Microsoft's hand by having them reveal all theirs first, and by the time the Pro reveal drops, MS will be out of the news cycle.
Frosty,
Wow, killer strategy Sony!! Amazing, such a methodical plan!
It has nothing to do with their awful Gaas push, forcing studios to make games they didn't want too, only later to back track and cancel the biggest one(factions), then scale back the number of them being released, and start all over again. Then while all this is happening, fire the president (resigned my ass), and now have to presidents that are working on cleaning up the shit show.
Nah, that can't be it right, it's the master plan, that they have been plotting for years now.
If Sony doesn’t speak up like Xbox, will Sony stop selling 5 PS5s for every 1 Xbox? These interviews only matter to enthusiasts who are already locked into ecosystems. They don’t affect sales. Same is true for the showcases. Normal people don’t take time out of their day to watch 45 minutes of game trailers.
Phil Spencer confirms that more Xbox games will be available on new platforms during a new interview after Xbox Showcase.
That last article where everyone is having a baby over a showcase is ridiculous because the Xbox showcase was really a multiplat showcase...
@Eonjay
I think people are just happy that they gave us something to be excited about. It being multiplatform stuff makes it even easier to rejoice as everyone gets to enjoy it. This show was really what Summerfest should have been, just with less of an xbox focus obviously.
These shows are fun to watch because we get to be excited about new games.
With that said, I imagine Perfect Dark, South of Midnight and perhaps state of decay 1-3 would be possible candidates for ps5. Doom might also be a given. They didn't really try to hammer home its exclusivity.
@MrBaskerville
Totally agree. I did enjoy SGF though unlike the majority. My personal taste is more eclectic than most. I found stuff at each show to enjoy.
Eon
Come on man, yes it’s multi but as a PS5 and switch owner i enjoyed the show yesterday far more than i did with State of Play.
Most announcements came from nowhere to me, and MGS was a massive surprise to finally see some gameplay.
I’m excited to play some of the games on PS5 one day!
Like i said earlier credit where credit is due.
@Eon
That’s something i have to get used to. I have to see it more like when Ubisoft does their showcase vs Days of Play or Nintendo Direct.
I wished some of these games stayed exclusive. Make it seem like my Series X was a more worthwhile purchase. I use it more for backwards compatibility now so it’s not entirely bad.
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Elder Scrolls 6 for PS5, please. Also I'd like the Forza franchise, I owned all four of the OG motorsport titles and FM4 is still one of, if not my favourite racing game ever.
NO. This can’t be true. The Xbox influencers on X/Twitter & YouTube who got angry at Phil Spencer then forgave him, guaranteed no other Microsoft games would come to PS5.
@ColtEastwood
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I have seen that colteastwood on x. If you look ul embarrassment in the dictionary a picture of him as a example would be there.
I think people deservidly give obscure a bashing on here. But Colteastwood makes Obscure look like a PS5 cultist haha.
Why forget Sunset Overdrive?
Also there are older titles like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Son of Rome.
Single-player Bethesda games usually gets better over time with future patches and DLCs
Satya Nadella wants that PlayStation's money, Phil Spinster now is as relevant as MySpace
Phil Spencer (February 15th 2024):
"Looking forward so 4 games no promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming, it's not."
Phill Spencer (June 9th 2024)
'Our commitment to our Xbox customers is you're going to get the opportunity to buy or subscribe to the game, we're going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms and we just see that as benefit that the franchises we're building and we see that from players and the players love to be able to play'
I won't be buying any Xbox games anyway, Not going to subsidize their vision of changing gaming industry into streaming everything via a netflix subscription and they are the only choice. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It's us or no one" You can't complain after they have taken over either.
Especially when they "give" it to Xbox users and expect playstation users to pay full price for it. Like second class citizens.
Ironmike
He will be missed, if he wasn't going to be missed Microsoft wouldn't be putting the games on PlayStation.
Make up your mind xbox guys, do you want to brag about Sea of Thieves success on PlayStation or do you want to cry about all your games going to PlayStation?
So, the benefit of having an Xbox is the option of a subscription service that's more like a buffet and not a deluxe plate. By staying loyal to Xbox means day 1 "free" games of your choice. Xbox is a service.
If rumors are true Xbox is going the 3DO route, Xbox is basically a PC. I mean, since PlayStation caved and started using off the shelf parts to "make it easier on developers", which is a croc as were how far into this console generation and the only devs to really support PS5, kind of, is Insomniac, San Diego, and Santa Monica and we've seen nothing from other devs. PS4 was supposed to be easier so PS5 would be even easier, right? But what've we really seen from Sony first party when it comes to PS5 games? Nothing, they're all still possible on PS4. Xbox? Same thing. Hi-Fi Rush was possible on at least Xbox One X (another lie from Xbox with No one gets left behind). Wow
The original comment still stands, as long as they withold one or two series of games on xbox. Most could come but that still wouldn't mean that you could expect every game to arrive.
I suspect they want people to speculate, because then you don't know whether you should wait for a ps5 port or buy an xbox. Every game is Schroedingers exclusive.
The interpretation of his first comment is not to expect more than these 4 games. The interpretation of the second comment is not to expect any game to be exclusive to Xbox.
His communication is all over the place. The fact that we can't decipher what he means is what people are complaing about. He should simply say, games are coming to PlayStation but we don't have a set policy that applies to all titles. Sometimes less is more.
You can go back further to last year’s Kinda Funny interview with Phil. Microsoft has been slowly getting the Xbox user base ready for this. It’s like the parable about putting a frog into a pot of water and slowly turning up the heat. We will be at boiling when Halo comes to PlayStation.
thats what i mean when i say hes a big bullshitter, girl doesnt rly know what hes talking about.
@purple lol that was a nice 720 doughnut, spin around for a month only to turn his back after the heat died down a bit
There’s this small part of me which wants to think that the reason for Sony being so calm lately, especially after Microsoft’s showcase, is because they know this themselves, and they could know more than what’s being said publicly.
But, Lego Horizon is on the Switch. Why is Nintendo the only comfortable one here. They're not even on PC
Stupid take. The Lego game has been made by a Lego studio with advice on the IP from guerilla games. So part of the negotiations/requirements to make it happen will clearly have been done kind of multiplatform release.
That Lego game definitely exists to get kids to want to buy the proper Horizon games on PS5/PS4 (plus the multiplayer game). It's basically a giant advertisement. And kids love the Switch.
nintendo is comfortable because their first party games sell in the tens of millions.
Sony gives them the PS5's development kit so they know exactly which studios are making games for their consoles, or at least they can make an estimate based on the number of kits requested.
People just loves to talk but in a couple of days this showcase will be already forgotten, and by the way 90% of the stuff shown is multiplatform.
If they wanted xbox cash they would allow gamepass on PlayStation 5
Or just let microsoft buy sony as they could without any issues to there bottom line.
@hof
Are you still in your pre 2010 bubble?
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company without playstation sony would have gone bankrupt years ago that is just facts.
Microsoft q1 2024 made 23.3 billion
https://www.theverge.com/20...
sony all of last year without buying a entire company remember q1 2024 for mircosoft as in spring so sony all 12months made 85 billion.
https://www.macrotrends.net...
Microsoft after buying various companies including acrtivison made 212 billion for 2023
https://www.macrotrends.net...
Sony has not made any big purchases were Microsoft continues to do so in the ai space and gaming space even in the military.
So yes microsoft could easily buy sony and not bat a eye.
Their bottom line is irrelevant a Japanese company like Sony is not going to sell out to an American one so you can go ahead and let that little dream die. Kind of ridiculous to make comment such as yours in an article about the fact more xbox games are coming to other consoles, so who is it that's really hurting for cash here? It's rhetorical you don't have to answer, everyone already knows the answer.
@romulus23
Hurting for cash? blinder on maximum
There doing this to make more cash like the court leak that showed ms wanted gamepass on PlayStation to expand its customer base its all about making more cash.
Right now they are losing out on the full pie by having it on the playstation store but if they buy sony then ms get's 100% of the sale.
Also a japan company not being owned by america? LOL you really do not know what happened after the 40's do you
Or want happened to Toshiba recently
If they toss a bag of billions at sony japan they will accept it
It seems the idea is to have other platforms(PS and PC) offset the cost of game pass.
Xbox users get the games on game pass while others pay full price.
Gamepass seems to be Xbox's idea of "exclusive".
These guys are so inconsistent with their messaging. It's difficult to know exactly what they want to do with their games. I've stopped caring. I just focus on the games.
This. When I saw day one on gamepass for every game I asked myself how will they make money? Answer: release on PS5 and get your sales from there and if lucky leople will sub on PC and XBOX. To ensure consistent subscriptions, space out the games. Either way MS has well and truly effed itself and Phil is a snake standing there pretending they all exclusives.
Interview with Isabella Inchbald, Actress for (Indika) in Indika which is an emotional, thought provoking journey through a nun's tale in questioning her religion.
“I know some people — I’ve seen it — some people say, ‘Oh, they’re just kind of burning money left and right in order to gain customers so they can trick you into raising the price later.’
“There’s no model like that, for us,” he said. “We feel good in the business that we’re running now. We’re definitely investing in it, but not investing in a way that’s unsustainable."
There you go. Straight from the horses mouth. Now let me guess...he's lying right?
Lies, post figures then.
I wonder what it's like working for Finance?
'You want how much?? But the previous budget was less than half of that!'.
what else is he supposed to say? I cant see it doing much for the hardware brand but for people looking to sub on the cheap it seems to be working. How many of them will keep on it after they try it for a discount? It doesnt help the sales of big triple A games due to the fact they are basically free to play. Gears 5 has suffered that effect in terms of sales as well as the mp not being what it used to be with all the MT’s they threw in to make up for the lack of sales by it being free on gamespass. Basically it devalues the few big exclusives they have in that way and the devs are left with milking the fanbase after launch with dlc and mt’s.
They are burning money but not in a wasteful way. They are burning through money for sure. Can you imagine the dollar amount dumped into the new Xbox and all of these new studios? Burning money? That’s an understatement. I give credit for trying though. They are not bad investments.