Hideki Kamiya Calls Nintendo Switch Home Menu A "Piece Of Crap"

Hideki Kamiya, producer at PlatinumGames, is known for making very harsh and frank comments on Twitter. A few days ago, he’s made another one, saying: "The Nintendo Switch’s Home Menu is a piece of crap, all of the sh***y gigantic game icons are lined up in a row, but the rest of the games are tossed into a trash can called ‘All Games’ ... I wonder have they (the people that made the menu) ever played the Nintendo fan boys’ Switch?"

[_SilverHawk_]

Everything about the switch is. Some people just accept the truth and move on while others fool themselves into thinking it's not and apologize for all the switches cons and joycons.

The ps5 will most likely be 400dollars and be more than 20 times more powerful than the switch and able to do a lot more while switch will be 300dollars. My point is that other companies like sony tries their best to give customers amazing hardware and quality games for a consumer friendly price while Nintendo doesnt. The xbox and playstation will have proper pricing deals for older games and consoles while Nintendo barely drops prices for their games or consoles. The switches joycons are rubbish and the switch lite is of such poor quality but fanboys like to apologize for Nintendo and their shoddy products

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I almost bought a Switch during the holidays. However, prices were too high. Older games like Breath of The Wild and even the Wii U ports were all full priced on boxing day!

[Tross]

Looks like I’m lucky that I was able to write my Switch and one game off as a work expense on my taxes. I have the best job ever, I swear. I do agree that Nintendo need to stop being crooks with the pricing of their older games though, since literally no other company is doing what they do.

[Sono421]

People like to say Nintendo doesn't get a free pass, but there is one practice they do that I think is the worst in all a gaming, and their fans don't even bat an eye at it, and even defend it. Which is... releasing two VERY SLIGHTY different versions of the same game.

The ENTIRE purpose of this tactic is to trick uninformed consumers into getting both versions, or getting the most die hard fans to buy both versions even though the content exclusive to each version is literally worth less than $5, yet they want you to spend an extra $60. This is beyond scummy, If EA did this they would be burned at the stake, if they made certain players exclusive to certain versions of Fifa and also gave the games two completely different names. Then made some cups or tournaments exclusive to each version. No one would stand for that, Yet Nintendo gets away with it, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I remember being a kid and thinking Red and Blue were two different games, I can only imagine that some kids today think the same thing and want both. It's just so scummy and everyone just accepts it, even reviewers, Nintendo literally has a Golden pass and it's just baffling to me. Don't even get me started with their online in 2020...

[Jrios355]

@Doge

Nintendo makes high quality video games, but mediocre consoles? I thought that was obvious by now.

EDIT: Disregard this message. I didn't realise I could reply to him directly.

[hiawa23]

Damn, I bought a Switch for Zelda, 2 Mario games, luigi3, and Donkey Kong Tropical. I get what you are saying.

[P_Bomb]

Nintendo’s hardware and software’s been consistently expensive in Canada this go around. Far cry from when I bought my Gamecube new for $130.

[Old McGroin]

@ Sono421

Common misconception but Nintendo don't make the Pokémon games, Gamefreak do. Saying that Nintendo are responsible for the practice of releasing 2 similar games on their console is the same as saying Microsoft and Sony are responsible for loot boxes because they allow it on their consoles.

[badz149]

@Old Mcgroin

"...Nintendo don't make the Pokémon games, Gamefreak do."

Hey...look, an apologist is already here. Wanna hear about another misconception (LIE) that Nintendo fanboys always try to make people believe? That Nintendo owns an equal 1/3 stake of the Pokemon brand and has absolutely no say on how the games are made. All things Pokemon are decisions made by Gamefreak and Gamefreak alone. Biggest BS EVER!

[Sono421]

@Old McGroin

Common misconception that because GameFreak makes the games people think Nintendo have nothing to do with the games, The Pokemon company plays a huge roll in the Pokemon games, of course, and Nintendo is the largest shareholder in the Pokemon Company, not to mention they publish the games, yes Nintendo is indeed at fault, 100% along with GameFreak and Creatures. Not to mention your analogy is so far off base it clearly shows you don't understand the situation

"Saying that Nintendo are responsible for the practice of releasing 2 similar games on their console is the same as saying Microsoft and Sony are responsible for loot boxes because they allow it on their consoles."

Not even close.

[UltraNova]

True, when I said this a few weeks back the Nintendo Avengers swept in to save the day...Nitendo should be scolded on their pricing policy. End of story.

[ABizzel1]

Honestly going used is the best deal you can find. I see a lot of them on marketplace for $199 with 5 or more games and usually the games most of us want to play.

Nintendo rarely drops the price of their games, because they know that's what their fans buy the system for, so you're still paying $400 - $500 for all of that new.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@sciurus

They've been keeping their own 1st party games full priced ever since mid GC era. They had Paper mario ttyd still priced at $50 in 2009. They do it simply because their software sells throughout the life of the console, and because they can get away with it. The only sales they ever do are on digital only versions since they already have those marked way up from what they cost to make, but even then it's only around 10% off. Only Nintendo can get away with these things.

[iplay1up2]

The reason the games are still expensive is because they are selling. BOTW, MK8, and Smash are always in the top 30 games sold for the month on eShop.
I have all 3 current gen systems and do not regret buying Switch for one second!

[Realms]

@Old McGroin

Nope Nintendo publishes the pokemon games meaning they pay to have them developed, so they most certainly know what those games will be like before they even show up on their system.

[Doge]

Call me when you can play Nintendo games on a PlayStation.

[mrmikew2018]

What does that have to do with anything? I swear you fanboys are beyond stupid sometimes.

[Adnanilyas21]

Agreed.

[Doge]

@mrmikew2018

Lmao and what does OP’s comment have to do with the article? The Switch’s home screen is barebones as fuck, which is true. Yet with all the issues that the Switch has from the lack of features and questionable build quality, there’s one reason it’s selling, and it’s the games, despite said games still selling at full price. But that’s not even relevant to the article.

But dismissing the fact that Nintendo has quality games on the Switch because they don’t drop the price is pure horseshit. Don’t even attempt to use your “I swear you fanboys” comments on me when OP fishes for agrees and first comment like this all the damn time.

[Terry_B]

Most people play Nintendo games on their PC :-)

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I don't think you will be called.

[Jrios355]

@Doge

Nintendo makes high quality video games, but mediocre consoles? I thought that was obvious by now.

[hiawa23]

Not going to happen🤣

[Sono421]

So you think Nintendo should go 3rd Party huh? Not a bad call honestly, they can make some truly good looking games on poor hardware, imagine what they could do on great hardware.

[Sirk7x]

Funny thing is, I can play psx games on my Switch!

[RedDevils]

@Sirk7x since you jailbroken your switch, might as well get a jailbroken PS3 and you can play the nintendo games too.

[SkatterBrain]

Already Can in Playstation Dreams

[Adnanilyas21]

As many of the issues you mentioned it still a brilliant GAME console. Plenty of games, that's what we buy consoles for right? I love my switch. Needs a lot of improvements though.

[pwnmaster3000]

I actually like how simple the home menu is.

[Vegamyster]

It's silly to compare a larger product for your TV to a small Tablet sized device, you couldn't make something 20 times more powerful than the Switch with the same form factor and have it reasonable priced for the average consumer. A middle of the pack cell phone costs as much as a console or laptops vs desktops, small form factor always carries a premium.

[NiteX]

You act like the PS4 has no faults, which is a big lie. How many people bitched about the dualshock 4 either having little battery life, or shitty thumbsticks? Stop being such a fanboy.

[Teflon02]

Big difference is Sony makes an effort to fix issues. No one with a control made atleast a few months from release wouldn’t have stick issues and the controls either are much better at efficiency or something because they don’t have a issue lasting all day for me now. Even so, again an effort. Nintendo doesn’t have a msging system, a party system, etc but you’re paying for online. They don’t have any system features but a Mii type thing. It’s ridiculous. Sony has been going out their way to add what ppl want, same with MS. But people gotta always make excuses for Nintendo. Like every gen they have virtual console and now with the widely successful Switch they want to remove all that? That’s BS. They’re overpricing games, Nintendo apologist make excuses for em. No there is no excuse. They need to clean the act up. I bought switch and it’s literally my most frustrating purchase. I can’t warrant almost any money used on it as a pc and ps4 player too

[DarXyde]

I really don't see how this was not marked as off topic. How does the FIRST comment manage to miss the mark entirely by taking a specific developer's comments on the Switch menu and saying "everything's wrong with Switch," followed by talk about Xbox and PS5. You just can't seem to accept that people like the Switch. It's weaker than the other consoles, but honestly, who cares? The software is great so far, and I'm looking forward to playing more. The joy con drift is a pain, sure. Easily the worst of the controllers in terms of build, screwing Lite players the worst. But I've also had problems with EVERY console's controller this generation; a broken bumper on Xbox One and worn down rubber on the DS4 analog stick.

To the topic at hand, I don't disagree with Kamiya's comments. The Switch menu is pretty goofy. The minimalism is ok in that it works, and at least it's quick and snappy. Still, Nintendo is not known for making great menus, and I see Kamiya's point. At least the games are solid though.

[CDbiggen]

"My point is that other companies like sony tries their best to give customers amazing hardware and quality games for a consumer friendly price while Nintendo doesnt."
Am I the only piece of shit on here who had a Vita?

[bluefox755]

It's so bizarre to me the seemingly infinitely amount of double standards that the public and journalists hold Nintendo to. Consumers have influence over a company's decisions, if people were just willing to call them out on their BS, they might actually improve.

[OMNlPOTENT]

Why are Sony fans so god damn toxic? Like damn 55 of you idiots upvoted this? You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. This website has become a toxic circle jerk of playstation fanboys who drool over garbage games like Death Stranding. I love my PS4 and I play it more than anything else but you guys really make me not want to associate myself as a Sony fan. Toxic as hell.

[Segata]

Fully agreed. Love my PS4 but any critsism of it or any praise of Switch and suddenly the cult swoop down with pitchforks.

[DarXyde]

I'm a huge Playstation enthusiast. And I think Death Stranding is really neat.

The comment about Death Stranding withstanding, yeah, I can agree with you. I think the opening comment was incredibly immature and it's embarrassing to see so many people agree with that wall of nonsense.

[neutralgamer1992]

Silver

They charged $50-60 for a cardboard box. Sony and ms are moving gaming forward while Nintendo only cares about profitability. Nintendo has some of the most loyal fanboys on these sites and in gaming media who refuse to call out Nintendo for anything

[DEKUX12]

How are they moving gaming forward? You mean by physical games taking 3 hours to download and then you have to delete a game everything you buy a new one?

[Father__Merrin]

I'd have to agree with you. Nintendo have been stealing from its fanbase for a long time but they can't see it yet. Buying the wiiu on launch was the last time il ever buy into Nintendo. Next year the Ps5 will annihilate the switch and will have all the software support.

[DarXyde]

No, it won't. It really won't.

Japan loves the Switch and it's a hit in the west, appealing greatly to portable gamers.

Make no mistake, PS5 is likely to continue the trend of incredibly memorable Playstation games, but if you think Switch is going to be pushed aside by a traditional console that will absolutely be more expensive... well, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[meganick]

You can expect PS5 to be $500 minimum with all the pricey components going into the console.

[froy402]

Dam I hope the Ps5 is more than 9TF or closer to the series x in raw power, I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if it is.

[Specter229]

Did you seriously try to compare the switch and the Ps5? Why? I

[King_Noctis]

Fanboy, that why. He wants every consoles to be dead except the one from Sony. The thing that he fail to understand is, Switch is not Xbox One, no matter how much he keeps downplay the console it will still sell very well regardless.

[Flewid638]

I dont even game on Nintendo consoles, but what planet do you live on where it makes more sense that everybody would like the same thing? lol.

[Segata]

Your avatar is from a DS commercial. The guy is holding a DS.

[CoNn3rB]

"Cons and joycons" nice

I made the mistake of buying a switch and after a month of buying it, I ran multiple issues, most namely the stick drift. My switch has been sat on my shelf doing nothing for the past year now.

[mrmikew2018]

Well said.

[iplay1up2]

"20 times more powerful than the Switch" 😂😂😂
28514;😂😂㈳ 4;😂😂
The PS4 Pro is $300 and the X1X just came down to $349 and you think PS5 is going to be $399? $449 minimum!

[tombfan]

The PS4 may be better than the switch, but there's no game @ Sony with the charm and creativity of say, Mario Odyssey.

Also, I'm a PS user since the first console and never have bought nintendo until 6 months ago... I'm in awe with the quality of the games it offers.

[Exvalos]

Gotta blame the Nintendo consumers for the prices, things are worth what people are willing to pay and time and time again, the nintendo fanbase proves and will continue to prove they have no problem paying full price for games the rest of us pay 5.00 for. It's a damn shame because the Nintendo fanbase ruins it for the rest of us.

[mrmikew2018]

It really is

[CrimsonWing69]

Well, he sure isn’t wrong, but I don’t hate it as much as I hate the Xbone’s.

[SpaceRanger]

You hate the Xbox One home menu UI?
Which one, there’s about 5 versions.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

The 6th version

[Jin_Sakai]

“Well, he sure isn’t wrong, but I don’t hate it as much as I hate the Xbone’s.”

Agreed. While Switch UI is barebones the Xbox is by far the worst of the 3. The layout is atrocious and it’s filled with advertisements to boot.

[SegaGamer]

I miss the simple layout of older consoles.

[badz149]

The Xbome came about when MS launched Win8 and we already know how much people hate the metro UI

[Jin_Sakai]

“Xbox UI is by far the best and most customizable“

It’s by far the worst and most would agree.

[Soy]

Agreed - 360's was better than PS3's, but XB1's is the worst right now. Almost unusable.

[MagUk]

Almost unusable? What are you having trouble with?

[traumadisaster]

I think it’s unresponsive due to pulling network data constantly while the user just wants to skip quickly between tabs. I think in the background it’s constantly accessing the server and that is not fast.

If you turn off the network it’s fast, especially in the 360 where I think they store that old data on the network in a slower place since it’s rarely used now.

[IanTH]

Yeah, I really hate the Xbox's UI. It has too many options and windows and sub menus all kind of stitched together, completely lacking in instinctual navigation. You can learn it through time, but I absolutely hated how disparate and non-sensical it felt.

I opted into the beta program so I could try out the new UI, and it is at least better than what's available on the current stable branch. You can pin things and make groups to make the layout simple and easily navigable.

I also hate how overly simplistic the Switch's UI is, but it is at least sensible & easy to understand...though I hate to give them *too* much credit for that, since they've let the UI stagnate since launch. No added features, not even folders, is baffling to me.

[Bleucrunch]

yea I have to agree with @Soy, my console's home screen is VERY sluggish. If I factory restore my Xbox One it will be the third time that I had to do this.....console has major issues.

[boing1]

Yo, even MS hates it. That's why it's changing constantly.

[mrmikew2018]

@Doge

My problem with your comment, is that you’re try to deflect what the actual article was stating which was the “home menu”. It had nothing to do with Nintendo games being on any other platform.

That’s where your ignorance and childish behavior kicked in and like I stated earlier it was stupid to bring something like that up. No one was talking about the quality of games, no one was agreeing with OP (whoever the hell that is) and no one even brought up the PS4.

Your recent comment still doesn’t make any sense, you can argue by yourself. I’m not wasting my time arguing with a fool.

Disagree all you want.....

[Doge]

You’re such a baby dude.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Great argument, dude.

[isarai]

Eh, ive only ever used the menu to launch a game and go to settings for testing controllers and wifi when buying them at my old job at a game store, seemed basic but did what it needed to. That said i dont own one so cant say i have any detailed experience with it, is it really that bad?

[Tross]

No, it's not IMHO. I have my issues with Nintendo, and I can't help but wonder why their fandom puts up with a lot of their crooked BS. But, the UI on the Switch...while not all that special, also hasn't been a problem for me. I guess I'm not one to complain about menus though unless they're difficult to use, but I can't think of a console where I've ever had a problem with that.

Maybe it's because I've played countless games and used my share of systems over the years, but I tend to pick up on how to use systems pretty quickly. I can access my games and the store with ease, and that's all that matters to me with a menu for a system like this.

[GameBoyColor]

its literally the ps4 menu without ads or the slowdown. It's just barebones without folders or themes really.

[isarai]

PS4 menu has ads? Doesn't for me

[badz149]

PS4 menu has slowdown? LOL you can complain about the PS4 all you want but the PS4 menu is certainly not slow. That's just a straight lie

[GameBoyColor]

You guys are delusional. Sony will push psnow and vue(at the time) on your xmb all the time. And the slow down is 100% real. Even on the pro(which i have and love playing.)

[isarai]

Slowdown? Sure, especially after using the web browser, but the only "ads" I've ever seen is one time a few years ago they put a PSNow icon in the main bar, deleted it and nothing ever showed up like that again.

[AspiringProGenji]

All the time? No you are delusional. Last time it got that ad was months ago, and it can be deleted with a simple button press

[Donnie81]

The ps4 definitely has ads and definitely has issues being slow getting in and out of apps. It takes forever to get in and out of the store. Maybe next gen that will be better when they are renting servers from Microsoft. Lol

[Segata]

It's the PS4 UI with less bloat. It's very bare bones but works just fine. The one area where it sucks is the Eshop. It's just badly designed.

[StifflerK]

I agree. it's really bare - I wish it was more like the 3DS home screen with the customisation/themes/music etc.

[Segata]

Pretty sure they got rid of all that because Wii U menus was a blown up 3DS menu and was so full of bloat it was very slow. They did everything to not be another Wii U.

[TheGamez100]

Its simple so its not really bad....but it is quite boring. The 3ds's themes function was nice, not sure why Nintendo still hasn't given us more glamorous options. Now the xbox one's... it was horribly confusing for me navigating to my games and even just the settings at first lol. The ps4's won this gen hands down for ui, simple and nice customizations.

[strayanalog]

Kinda like the PS4 home menu without folders.

[Neonridr]

I mean it's not any different than the PS4.. you have a bunch of icons in a row and then eventually you get to a "All Software" icon. You can't expect them to list every single game in one long row.

[IanTH]

I just want folders! I don't need a million options, but let me make like...a "favorites" folder, a "demos" folder, and maybe like an "archived" folder. Then I can find things faster, get to exactly what I want without having to scroll to the end to hit the "library", and then have to sift through everything in one large pile.

I have 4 folders on my PS4 screen, a few "groups" on my Xbox screen...it makes things easier to navigate. Just add that and I'd be a lot happier with my Switch's UI.

[Rimeskeem]

The switch is a hand held device that Nintendo decided to make a full console. Like, you really think you are gonna trick someone with the shitty plastic dock that looks like you designed it in a month?

Also, the only UI that is decent on consoles is PS4's. No clutter, latest apps/games you used front and center. Simple, effective, and efficient.

[hiawa23]

I agree, it's a portable that docks. Some expectations might be a little high for Nintendo.

[EmperorDalek]

The PS4 looks like it has an interface made by a 10 year old. Same with the console itself.

[Rimeskeem]

smart ass 10 year old

[Segata]

I like it. Simple and clean. Not loaded with bloat.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

If Nintendo could make something compelling for gamers of all ages, like the old days, I would be seriously interested. However, it looks like their kiddie toy is selling extremely well at the moment, so I won't hold my breath.

[hiawa23]

Wait, kiddie toy🤔?

[Segata]

He's still loving in the early 2000's when that was still the edgy thing to say.

[King_Noctis]

Xenoblade 2, Astral Chain, Fire Emblem 3 Houses, Bayonetta 3, SMTV, No More Heroes 3, Deadly Premonition 2, Metriod Prime. Are those kiddies games?

[FallenAngel1984]

It’s the most uninspired UI for a Nintendo console thus far

[PlatinumGX]

Lmfao the whole thing is a piece of crap. Thanks based Kamiya.

[Segata]

Change your name. You don't deserve to be a Platinum fan.

[King_Noctis]

Which one? Your comment or the Switch?

[Donnie81]

It’s very basic no doubt about it. Be nice to have backgrounds of some sort.

[Elda]

Business is business. Though he makes games for the Switch doesn't means he's fond of it.

[hiawa23]

I own all three of this gens consoles, and really don't sit on the home screen long enough to care. I can get into my games I want to play with no issues, especially on the X1X since I use Kinect voice commands for damn near everything, so all three consoles I am fine with. It is what it is😎.

[GamerRN]

I never understand how 45 comments and fewer views equates to hotter than 100 comments in far less time... Must be the power of PS4!

[ninsigma]

Can't say I agree. I think it's clean and minimalistic. Full disclosure, I don't have enough games on it to max out the slots so maybe that makes a difference but haven't had a problem with it yet!

[hiawa23]

I agree

[NiteX]

I like it. Could it use more features? Sure, why not.

[2pacalypsenow]

He ain’t lying, the Switch is barebones AF

[gold_drake]

hes not wrong. fanboys think its the best thing ever, but its rly not.

[CDbiggen]

Isn't the PS4 menu pretty much the same? Big square icons
Not defending either, I hate both tbh.
My favourite of all time is probably the Vita.

[IanTH]

Sort of, but the Switch is definitely a LOT more barebones. I would probably not care about the Switch UI much if they just gave us folders. As is, I hate that all the demos, archived game tiles, small eshop titles and larger "aa/aaa" games are all smashed together. If I could just clean up the UI with folders, I'd be a lot happier.

They've given us basically no new features since it launched almost 3 years ago, but I still can't believe they didn't give us folders!

[CDbiggen]

I'm with you. it's crazy to think we haven't even got folders of any kind, let alone any way to customise (even a little) the look of it.

[Gordoncordon]

i hate hideki kamiya, but it's hard to not agree this time.
the hardware is shit too tho

[xVOLTx]

Agree.

[Baza]

I really want to jump into Zelda, Mario and Smash. But I refuse to pay that much for dated hardware. I know a lot of kids got them from Santa this past Christmas!

[johnfriscia]

NintendoSoup is not a credible source of translations. Their translations have been proven to be false REPEATEDLY on a wide range of topics, including two seriously inaccurate Mother translations. They should be banned as a source of translations.

[Aaroncls7]

Hideki Kamiya is the man!

[contra157]

I just care about his games not his opinions. What I love about the Nintendo setup is no distractions just all about gaming . Today people need all this eye candy . Yuck. I just wanna launch my game

[strayanalog]

Quiet, contra, or someone will hear you and your good sense!

[IanTH]

All I want is to launch my game too. If they would give me folders, I could keep things tidy and find the game I want to launch faster, without having to sift through other games, demos, and archived game tiles to get to it. Mostly what you want is the first tile, but sometimes you'd like something else and it just feels kind of messy, even in the "library" view.

If they just let me have folders and then let me sort those how I liked, I'd be happy. Don't need flash, just function.

[tagzskie]

i dont care about the menu, as long the switch bring me the goods then im good.. Nintendo always released great games so i dont care on anything else. The game pricing is different story though specially remasters.

[Knightofelemia]

I like the Switch home menu its basic even a kid could run it its their online they need to play catch up on

[ZwVw]

Did Kamiya block Nintendo (assuming he hasn't already) after tweeting?

[Xaevi]

I like my Switch, it's a neat concept, but IMHO it's poorly executed by Nintendo. So many design flaws, it's almost like they didn't bother thinking it through. The VITA I consider the best handheld ever made. It's literally a portable PlayStation with all the features people have come to except as standard. I think most of the switches problems could be addressed with an update but after 3 years I doubt ninty is gonna do anything.

[PCgamer98]

Wouldn't call it crap but it's pretty barebones and needs improvements. Like seriously it's nearing three years old and still has no folders or even better themes.

[IanTH]

Exactly, no folders is baffling! I mean, I'm shocked they've added effectively nothing new for 3 years, but the folders...I just want to be able to make sense of my library!

[NukeDaHippies]

Fair call, i agree. Switch is a bit of a swindle machine. The things known for bringing alot of old games as ports, which is nice. But they're all priced as if they just came out. The hell is that about?

Smash and astral chain are the only switch games i've gotten/wanted on the console, can't say the switch impresses me....

[IanTH]

I'm in a similar spot. I've had the Switch for about 2 years. I played Mario Odyssey and M+R: Kingdom Battle right after I got it, then nothing for like a year (I played BotW on my Wii U). I just ordered FE:3H, so hopefully I'll enjoy that when it gets here. I'm eyeing Astral Chain and maybe one other game, but that's about it.

The pricing on older games (XB2 for $60 still), the pricing on "smaller" games (Yoshi for $60?!), and the pricing for remasters are all a bit of a tough pill to swallow. I'd love to own a few games portably that I own elsewhere, but not for the prices they command. I wish the Swtich had more I liked, but I'm thinking after all this time that maybe Nintendo & I aren't as good a fit as we used to be.

[NukeDaHippies]

So far Astral Chain is pretty cool. If you like nier automata and a bunch of other platnum games, i'd say give it a go.

I'm no fan of any of the old franchises they milk. I got it for Bayo 3 and SMT 5 (and smash was out, at the time). But screw me, cus both those games have been silent for years.

[Mainman187]

It's funny because it's true.

[Imalwaysright]

People care about menus? I want games and Nintendo keeps delivering great games. That's all I care about.

[IanTH]

Can't one care about both?

[Imalwaysright]

You can do whatever you want but since I buy consoles to play games and not to stare at menus I couldn't care less about them even if I wanted to.

[Wontime1]

This is the top article ? Alrighty then

[_LarZen_]

N O N S E N S E

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

The only thing I have against the Switch is the pricing, their games are always so expensive, when I think of getting a game for it, either PSN or Steam/GOG/Epic has it on sale for significantly less and I buy it there instead. Looks like I'll end up buying mostly exclusives, which is a pity, because the Switch is brilliant, especially the portability.

[IanTH]

Definitely in the same boat. The market taught me to wait for sales, and I'd get a lot of games cheaper & nice 'n patched up. But Nintendo didn't get the memo, so I end up spending my money just about anywhere else.

Maybe other people are OK spending $90 on XBC2 and Torna 2 years after launch, but I'm certainly not. I could buy 8 months of Humble Choice for that! Or at least 4 physical games on any other platform. I've had this Switch a while, but have bought precious little for it. Nintendo doesn't make it easy...

[Artemidorus]

I can vouch for him, he speaks the truth.

[rulparra]

faked news

[MetroidFREAK21]

Yes...yes it is

[GrizToof]

The switch infact is a great system and its continued amazing sales numbers prove that millions feel the same way. That being said the amounts of improvements that need to be made are many. Haters and the jealous are using these tweets as a way to attempt to start some fire and pitchfork raid on Nintendo. Every console ever produced had many problems that needed work, this is not Nintendo exclusive. Think what you want, I am not loyal to any multi billion dollar company. I'm just being real here. The switch needs some work but when you say the whole console is shit it's your opinion and a incorrect one.

[IanTH]

It's true everything needs improvements, but of all the consoles I've owned I've never seen one stagnate as much as the Switch has after 3 years. I mean, they haven't even added folders! I like my Switch just fine - it isn't an entirely garbage machine by any stretch - but it is possibly one of the most disappointing I've owned; it feels like it's unable to reach its full potential (given the lack of any additional features), and the way Nintendo prices its games means I don't buy many so I don't play it as often as I'd like. It's a bit of a bummer.

[whitbyfox]

Say what you want, Nintendo has the best exclusives. Can’t argue with facts.

Metacritic;

PS4: The Last of Us Remastered - 95.
Switch: Zelda Breath of the Wild/Super Mario Odyssey - 97.

PS3: Uncharted 2 - 96.
Wii: Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 - 97.

PS2: Metal Gear Solid 2 - 96.
Gamecube: Metroid Prime - 97.

Playstation: Gran Turismo - 96.
N64: Zelda Ocarina of Time- 99.

[King_Noctis]

Don’t you know? Games don’t matter when it comes to Sony vs Nintendo.

Now MS vs Sony on the other hand...

[IanTH]

By that measure, Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 (98) and GTA4 (98) were better than Zelda BotW, Super Mario Odyssey, Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid, Metroid Prime and Gran Turismo. I don't think Metacritic is a place you can go to to "prove" anything with "facts". They weight reviews differently, remove reviews, don't count certain reviews...I mean, it's a good way to get a general idea of a game, but that's about it. And pointing to two games that are a point or 2 apart and saying that difference proves anything is a bit silly.

I like Nintendo just fine, I've no brand allegiance, but one doesn't need to be so defensive because someone called out the fact they think the menu isn't great. Sure, the games are excellent, but that does not change anything about the menu lol.

[whitbyfox]

Well they aren’t exclusives. But fair points.

[Fritzwochel]

I have all three consoles and the Switch home menu is the simplest and best. No bullshit.

[Realms]

Nintendo doesn't really offer value vs it's competitors. They lack features, their console is under powered making many third party developers stay away which means you get to play less games. Finally their games are always expensive even games that are years old. So Nintendo consoles aren't as attractive as a primary console and only seem enticing if you want a portable or a secondary console to play Nintendo games. Just my two cents