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Xbox Boss On Microsoft’s Struggles With Game Quality And Efforts To Improve It

Whatever the strengths of the Xbox platform, it’s long lagged behind Nintendo and Sony in terms of homegrown, exclusive video games. There have been highlights in its history and even some stellar games of late, such as last year’s Forza Horizon 4, but the Xbox One era has been rough. There have been prominent cancellations, disappointing sequels and games that under-delivered given how long fans were waiting for them.

In recent years there have been hints of a coming turnaround.

lxeasy1803d ago

There were few titles that were exceptional this gen for Xbox. Which is a shame. With new talented developers like Ninja Theory, Playground Games, Double Fine and Obsidian lets hope that changes next gen for them. It's be nice to see Xbox join Nintendo and Ps in releasing GOTY quality games.

yarbie10001803d ago

Microsoft's studios that they owned were unable to produce many exceptional games this gen, so maybe if they buy more studios then they'll be able to....

hmmmmmmm

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RememberThe3571802d ago

MS closed Ensemble and I'm pretty sure they never made a bad game. I have very little hope.

mikeslemonade1802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

MS is the only one of the console holders to have lots of pc games and so they are graded on the highest standard.

Nintendo is graded on the lowest standard that’s why it’s easy for them to score high meta.

Potnoodle9991802d ago

No. Sorry. They should’ve produced SOMETHING by now. It’s already gone way past embarrassing. Then the first game one of their new studios announced is a crappy looking mplayer game.
It’s taken FAR too long!

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Dragonscale1802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

@mikeslemonade, thats a completely dumb strawman argument that you've made up there. Lmfao.

@kingnoctis, they need more than just forza horizon fgs.

Muzikguy1802d ago

@mikes

What are you smoking?

r2oB1802d ago

@hank

More studios for Microsoft means more quantity, not quality. Especially considering they already stated they are aiming for a release every three months or so. Most of their studios will be churning out mediocre quality games for Gamepass.

And Crackdown 3 did not have troubled development. They had one team working on the game and another working on the cloud, some people working on the cloud left after the Epic acquisition. But the team working on the gameplay stayed the same. Even Microsoft stated the departures had little effect on the outcome of the game. The game was bad because Microsoft overhyped the cloud and the game was of poor quality.

Quality games require time, talent, and good management (for budgeting and time management, etc.), not just a bunch of studios.

mikeslemonade1802d ago

^
You don’t compare PC AAA games to low budget IOS games. A 95 PC AAA game to a IOS 95 meta game ain’t the same.

One is graded to a higher standard.

That is why MS has lower meta.

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Larrysweet1802d ago

There were zero exceptional xbox exclusives zero

gam3r_4_lif31802d ago

Only a totally indoctrinated fanbaby would actually believe that. Halo 5"s mp was amazing. Both FH3 and 4 were exceptional and ORI was just pure joy

343_Guilty_Spark1802d ago

Watch he say they were on PC so not exclusive.

Phil: That's kinda the point

King_Noctis1802d ago

But the Forza Horizon series are exceptional.

RememberThe3571802d ago

There were zero Xbox exclusives

Godmars2901802d ago

@King_Noctis:
Its a racing game.

Potnoodle9991802d ago

Exactly, zero, there were a couple of average. Forza is not exceptional. It’s a racing game for godsake, how much can you really innovate or be groundbreaking with a bloody racing game. Zip round a track in better graphics with differently modeled cars..yay big whoop. Racing games are for car enthusiasts. For anyone else they are just average games.

wiz71911802d ago

But there was , do you own a xbox ??

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The Wood1802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

Their management has been their Achilles heel. Outside of the teams that develop the forza franchise, how many studios have actually improved yoy? You can't keep blaming the studios. Adding numbers solves a part of the problems not all of them. How many game of the year contenders? How many new ip's? How many genre's are covered?

robleroy1802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

You are close to the truth.

Obscure_Observer1802d ago

@lxeasy

"With new talented developers like Ninja Theory, Playground Games, Double Fine and Obsidian lets hope that changes next gen for them."

Don´t forget the all new The Initiative. ;)

robleroy1802d ago

They already instructed some of the new studios (ninja theory) to make their games multiplayer.
You saw what happened with tombraider??..
Managing gamestudios is sadly not a MS thing.
They are still on the old bandwagon: paywall milking.
Yet no sign they will change their tactics: sell xboxlive subscribtions.
An xbox cost 400 for 7 years ownership
Xboxlive costs the same for 7 years
Xboxlive has a larger profit margin.

In MS defense: they have tried with success in the original xbox and xbox360 era to make competing exclusive games.
But the failed financialy managing those studios.
So they stopped competing with SONY.
This would save MS money for not having to invest much in excl games.
Concerning owning and managing gamestudios :SONY is lightyears away.

The best MS could do is lie/hype about the excl games they will create ( the excl games for the XBox one were given by EA. I think EA got MS to promise they will include DRM..because of the deal)
There is no reason why MS would comeup with DRM by
Bad deal.

Grown Folks Talk1802d ago

At least have Obsidian holler at Sega & work it out so I can get an Alpha Protocol sequel done properly.

Potnoodle9991802d ago

Disagree, their were no exceptional titles for Xbox or I would’ve bought one. However I agreed with your comment as I do hope that changes next gen. With so many studios I hope we will be back to the 360 days where there was some competition and a reason to own both consoles. IMO PS3 still killed it even back then though in terms of exclusives (especially after 2009).

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PhoenixUp1803d ago

Microsoft has been in the console space for 18 years and only now have they discovered that they’re first party output has been weak?

porkChop1802d ago

To be fair their first party were pretty great during the 360 days, minus the last couple years. It wasn't at PS's level, but still great.

Godmars2901802d ago

Actually, honestly, always thought Xbox was a bit - more than a bit - tone def when it came to game making. Bought an OG Xbox for Panzer Dragoon Orta, and while it was fantastic looking, it played more like a mix of first and second game rather than a third arcade level entry much less Saga.

Aside from a few they heavily favored PC type games over console, then with the 360, after an initial effort to be about "all games", gabbing RPGs from Sony and even producing a couple of animes in JP for promotion there, they pretty much dropped everything because of FPS.

Rude-ro1802d ago

Actually, most were third party deals made to be exclusive to the 360.

You had halo, fabled, and a racing game.
The rest were indie style smaller games or third party.

RangerWalk2671802d ago

I prefer the MS approach to the games they make vs PS. They have replayability. Sony gives me a great story and done. Back to Redbox

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PhoenixUp1802d ago

@ NoHo

Yet Microsoft has more money than Sega ever did and their first party games pale in comparison to even to what Sega used to have when they were in the console space. Even Saturn & Dreamcast’s first party outputs were far better than Xbox One’s.

No excuses. If you’re going to be in this industry you need your own lineup of strong games consistently to set yourself apart from the competition

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wiz71911802d ago

@NoHo your right bro and people need to realize that. The Xbox division wasn't being support like it should of until recently. I remember reading the money was being split between surface , xbox , and something else. Just because Microsoft as a company has a lot of money that doesn't mean the xbox division has money. They can only work with what the higher ups dedicate to xbox. Prime example Bill Gates has billions of dollars but i bet his kids doesnt have access to his money , they get what he gives.

The-Matrix-has-you1802d ago

My thoughts exactly man. Microsoft has the resources and money to make great games, but will they? Will they take risks creating new IP’s? Will they let their development studios make games that they are passionate about?

Microsoft just doesn’t get it. They don’t understand what gamers really want. We want new, fresh and polished experiences. We want them to succeed. I want to be able to say yes to every question I asked but I fear they will never learn that lesson.

Potnoodle9991802d ago

We want a company like Sony. We have them. We also want and need Nintendo. Are we being greedy asking for a third company to bring something great to the table? I don’t think so, I hope they do it, but personally they have let me down and massively failed on delivering on every occasion over the last decade...

AuraAbjure1802d ago

smokin' up sum of that stuff I see Pheonix. Blinx, Voodoo Vince and Halo for the OG, Fable 2, Gears of War, Alan Wake, Ninja Gaiden 2, and Condemned for the 360, Dead Rising 3, and Titanfall for the Xbox One.

343_Guilty_Spark1802d ago

The Xbox and Xbox 360 had great 1st party support

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Automatic791802d ago

Xbox has over 1900 games in development. I have no doubt that they will produce a beautiful variety of games. Gears 5, Ori, BattleToads, OuterWorlds, Blair Witch, 12 Minutes, Bleeding Edge, Halo Infinite stood out to me at E3. Love how GamePass is a Plus towards unlimited games. I still buy my games but GamePass has really helped Xbox go all in on games.

Relientk771802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

Microsoft need a lot more than that next-gen to sell Project Scarlett, in my opinion.

-Foxtrot1802d ago

1900?

Drop the 1

Then the 0

And now the other 0

Totals to 9

That's more believable

Brave_Losers_Unite1802d ago

Playstation has over 1,000,000 games in development. Switch has 2,000,000 games releasing tomorrow

thexmanone1802d ago

Don`t know what PS has, they we not at E3

Brave_Losers_Unite1801d ago

@thexmanone

Yet they still have more games coming out than Xbox. Go figure

Chevalier1801d ago

@xboxmanone

" Don`t know what PS has, they we not at E3"

Its okay gaming on Xbox has made it hard to see that Playstation has these games that are 'exclusives'. Taking off those rose tinted glasses might help too.

xX-oldboy-Xx1802d ago

Has ms even had that many games release on all their console combined? You need some vitamins mate, it'll help you think clearly.

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Potnoodle9991802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

This has never helped them over the last decade. Why will it change now? Why in gods name would you have no doubt? You do have doubt. Because they haven’t produced a beautiful variety of QUALITY games in over 10 years. All I have seen gamepass do is turn Xbox into a really cheap bargain bin for very low quality sup-par gaming experiences. Great for your money, bad for your imagination. I’m glad I pay more to Sony to give me games like God of war, The last of us, last guardian, bloodborne and horizon. Same with Nintendo and Zelda, xenoblade, Mario.

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AK911802d ago

https://twitter.com/Fobwash...

Anyone remember this? This was in E3 2015 it's gotten WORSE since then.

william_cade1802d ago

They are pretty good at making cell phone and mmo style games.

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 9h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken1d 22h ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 20h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2032d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 20h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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