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Google Reveals Stance On Exclusive Games For Stadia

Google is keeping plenty of details about Stadia close the the chest, but the company did sit down with GameSpot to further discuss the service.

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Nyxus1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

Everything about this thing sounds completely horrible. I just hope it flops hard.

Neonridr1895d ago

why? How does this affect you? You can keep playing your traditional box, and those who don't have the means to do so can possibly use this service..

Nyxus1895d ago

Because all of their ideas are horrible, and they are trying to push this as the so-called 'future of gaming'.

Neonridr1895d ago

@Nyxus - it's one future, not THE future. I think it's great that more options are coming. I mean who even thought this sort of thing was possible 5 years ago? Playing AAA titles through a web browser?

I love my consoles and will still choose to go that route, but for someone who doesn't have the hardware or means, this still allows them to enjoy gaming without the upfront cost of purchasing anything physical.

I hate how when someone doesn't like something they act like it's no good for anybody. You are entitled to your opinion, but please don't act like there aren't people out there who wouldn't benefit from this type of business model.

Nyxus1895d ago

@ Neonridr: You know who would benefit from this business model? Google.

Neonridr1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

@Nyxus - naturally they would. We live in a streaming world dominated by places like Netflix and Amazon Prime. Why shouldn't there be a gaming option delivered the same way? Playstation Now offers similar features / services and nobody complains about that model.

gangsta_red1895d ago

I hate this so I hope it flops and no one else should ever enjoy something I hate. So there!!!

Nyxus1895d ago

@ gangsta_red: if you are a gamer and you don't see how wrong all of this is, I don't know what to say.

2pacalypsenow1895d ago

@gangsta_red

Do you say the same for loot boxes?

Ricegum1894d ago

Can't help but notice the only people defending this are Microsoft fans. I guess it's since they know that's the way Microsoft are heading too. So they feel like they need to be on board with it all.

Such a shame.

DillyDilly1894d ago

It effects us because if successful Sony & Microsoft might try this route also people are hypocrites if they like this but gave Microsoft a hard time with their first X1 reveal since its another always online thing

annoyedgamer1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

Thats all good and well untill the latter is no longer available. Guess how many Physical copies of Metro Exodus sold on PC? None. Because it was never available.

Neonridr1894d ago

@Ricegum - I own a PS4 (Pro) and a Switch. Don't own any MS hardware, unless you count my gaming PC since it runs Windows.

XabiDaChosenOne1894d ago

@Ricegum Are you surprised? They were also defending the original drm elements of the X1 as well when it was first announced.

Christopher1894d ago

***I mean who even thought this sort of thing was possible 5 years ago? ***

OnLive, Gaikai, Sony.

Neonridr1894d ago

@Christopher - those services had terrible lag and limited resolutions.

yomfweeee1894d ago

It is a slippery slope type of thing towards getting rid of consoles. Then that means all digital, which a lot of people do not want.

Dragonscale1894d ago

@neon, yeah but it was still possible as flaky as it was at the time.

dumahim1894d ago

Because something new = scary and some people can't allow other people to enjoy what someone else is willing to offer.

Don't get me wrong, it's something I'll probably never use myself, but the instant hate over this is just silly.

rainslacker1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

As a Sony fan, I'll defend the service. I have nothing against options. My annoyance comes from those that act like there is a singular future, other things will die, or jump on business paradigms which are actually bad for the customer. I dont really feel that what Google is offering is bad, just like the other streaming services aren't.

Could it end up having bad policies attached to the service? Sure. But we dont know all those policies yet.

Could it cause a major market shift which will make devs and pubs prefer this kind of service? Maybe, but outside of these services buying exclusivity, or making their own games, it would mean a lot of people in the traditional model will have to shift to this new consumption model. If that happens, then it is what it is, and if the console market were so fragile, it probably wouldn't last anyways.

But for as long as there are enough people wanting the traditional, there will be someone to provide it, and docs to support it. If it means we lose the 3-4 games out of ten which want to chase the mt/dlc service based games where they get to keep complete control and expand as little as possible, then I say good riddance. Let other, better games shine, just like so many AAA SP games have this gen because we dont have ten big ones releasing each month anymore.

0hMyGandhi1894d ago

I believe Stadia sets a terrifying presedecent. Phil Harrison stating that the pricing of the game can vary, with options to pay by the hour and so on and so forth.
This will further incentivize companies to mold their titles into sink sink collect-a-thons with lootboxes, DLC season passes, and piecemeal narrative offerings.

It always scares me when I see pure streaming of anything, especially without having any option to download the content.

I am a movie buff. Love movies, like many others. So, even in the age of Netflix, I still own a decent collection of films on blu-ray. Why? because when Amblin pulls all the offerings of Speilberg and you cannot watch Jaws, what do you do? People need to be super careful about the immense power that a company like Google can exhibit. Ownership is important, and Google has a ton of influence.

I believe this new platform affects Microsoft more than anyone else. Google's primary bag is having the option to play virtually anywhere, and they are leaning heavily on 3rd party support. Microsoft is similarly banking on 3rd party support to get by. Their Gamepass program will be heavily compromised if Google decides to throw a few billion towards its own platform.

In all honesty, if Stadia could allow us to "rent" games via their platform, I am all in.

Christopher1894d ago

***those services had terrible lag and limited resolutions***

Goal post move much? You didn't ask about quality, only who thought of it.

And those services are just lower resolution but otherwise not proven to be worse than Stadia as far as performance. Saying otherwise it's just reading lines from Google PR and not real world usage.

Melankolis1894d ago

@Neonridr
You're so naive. I know this is inevitable. But this kind of service, once it proved to be successful, it will affect gaming industry as a whole.
You want proof? Mobile gaming business model already found on consoles and PC. DLC, MT, loot box, those are the examples.
So what's next? DMC VI timed exclusive on Stadia? I hope not.

NXFather1893d ago

Well I can only speak for myself with my own ideas or above and the people for google but, you already know its an irrational fear. If we are talking about games right now.

T2X1893d ago

Options are always good to have!!!

Godmars2901893d ago (Edited 1893d ago )

It effects him, traditional "box" gaming, in the way it shifts things more towards the mobile gaming model and away from physical. Not that physical gaming wasn't in enough trouble with online patching loot boxes and all else.

Think if it as EA - screwing up all the more - mandating use of Frostbite as example. How by all counts a game engine focused on FPS has negatively impacted titles like Andromeda and Anthem. Any 3rd party dev who prioritizes a multiplatform game for Google's service is likely going to make a worse PS or Xbox version by default, if they make them at all. Have less incentive to fix any issues to boot.

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darthv721895d ago

you can hope but it prob wont. There is a world much bigger outside of N4G and Google is used by billions of people. chances are... they've been made aware of its soon to be existence.

Sono4211893d ago

I'm sorry but I really don't understand people who think this sounds like a good idea. What do we really gain from this kind of model? let's actually do this.

1. No downloads means you'll have a full game library ready the second you connect to the internet.
2. Because it is streaming, powerful hardware is not necessary, in theory you would never have to upgrade hardware ever again.
3. You can play with streamers? I don't know about this one, it sounds confusing? Don't really understand it.

That's really it, those are the good things to come from this.. the best argument for it (If you ask me) is number 2. Never having to upgrade your own hardware would seem appealing, but now let's get into the negatives.

1. You don't actually own your games, you are subject to them being removed at any time.
2. Crazy fast constant internet connection required.
3. Even single player games require a fast constant internet connection.
4. Input lag.

That's about all of them, and by looking at the list I really think the negatives vastly outweigh the good. The good doesn't solve any current problems, I think the most compelling is that in theory you'll never have to upgrade hardware, but I'm not willing to give up a lag free experience for that. It's crazy to me that there's actually a decent amount of people on here for this, where did all of the people go who complained about singleplayer games being always online? Are we so quick to forget all the issues that come with that?

Also who wants to give more power to google? They are a monopoly as it is and you just want to let them get even a stronger grip on your information? A controller with a built in mic always connected to wifi, what happened to all of the gamers upset about connect always being on and listening? Constantly collecting data on you. It's like the gaming community is forgetting a very recent history.

On top of that, who actually trusts google to do things right? I mean besides their site (Google) I can't think of anything else they've accomplished that I enjoy, (Youtube doesn't count as they bought it after it was a huge success and every change they make everyone hates) Google's OS for their computers is utter garbage, as well as just the chrome books in general, the worst PC's on the market. I don't know about their phone but I can only imagine how bad it is after dealing with their OS/computers.

This last one is just my personal opinion but I can't support a company that is openly sexist, I just won't I refuse. They flat out admit to paying men less then women, and still claim that men are more privileged at google (Seriously this isn't a joke they released this themselves) and if that isn't enough to make you think they are openly sexist twords men, they always do a womens day video and a mothers day video celebrating the days and posting them on youtube, yet they never do a fathers day video, why not youtube?

It's crazy how in today's PC and SJW era there aren't people going nuts over this. I don't trust google and they don't need to get even more information on everybody. Hard pass from me.

derek1893d ago (Edited 1893d ago )

Those billions of people dont exist. This may come as a shock to some but the vast majority of adults in the western world let alone elsewhere dont have the time, interest, or budget to invest in what is readily available now video games. I love video gaming and only invest so much time on a monthly basis to actually playing. The market for stadia and xlcoud and psnow is pretty much going to be the same market that exists today. This reality is what I suspect is going to hit Google and others hard who are trying to become the Netflix of gaming when they realize the interest isn't there.

Sono4211893d ago

I really hope there will be crossplay between stadia and consoles, I will appreciate the advantage ;)

nucky641893d ago

i use google all the time and like it - and i HATE the idea of this game service. darth, billions of people all over the world like soccer - that doesn't mean they'll like american football.

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Sevir1894d ago

Lol! I don't see a problem with this existing. It's another revenue stream for developers and I feel it opens up new possibilities in gaming. Plenty of social aspects. As technology goes forward being integrally connected on vast networks seems like the way to go.

I'll always love my consoles, but This isn't a bad thing either. For now, it's a new option.

You can disagree Nyxus! But if you can't provide reasons why it's horrible, you just sound immature and that this technology is coming forward.

If Google wants to the one to fox the issues with streaming AAA games then let them be the one to iron out the kinks paving the way for PS, Ninty and XB to come in and nail it on the first go.

This is a conversation I hope we will have over the next decade. Home Consoles are here to stay and will have a market, for the foreseeable future. But that next shift is just starting to come into view as well. And that conversation should be entertained, we're all gamers and a new way to play games should be welcomed.

Nyxus1894d ago

Don't the reasons to be against this speak for themselves? There are enough reasons to dislike this thing: Google has already too much control over internet services, now ownership of games, no preservation of games, a focus on multiplayer and streamers, you have to be always online (even your controller is connected through wifi), and even if you do have internet, it needs to be fast. We only stand to lose from this. It solves a problem that doesn't exist.

SuperSonic911894d ago

Are we the only few positively open minded people around here?

High five, man!

Stadia is not a threat to PS5.

Saigon1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

My issue with this system is that we as gamers loose control. The control that we have now will be gone. They did it with music, they did it with movies, and they have been trying to figure out a way to do it with games for the longest. This system comes close to being that method. I honestly hate streaming music, though I do it and I hate it because as soon as I get in a no-no zone the streaming becomes a mess. Skips ahead in songs, skip next tracks, etc. It just becomes a mess. For movies, we are at the will of the provider or network/company that provides the content. I hate that. Movies are removed and never returned, or content is subpar it's like, what's the point. I have a feeling with games we will see a similar model to Netflix/Hulu etc. and additionally we may see a model similar to what some developers provide on mobile games, with chapters or play to proceed. What do they call it, In-game purchases, yeah?

The biggest issue is the network issue in most places. Because you may live in the city doesn't mean you have the best available connection. Some companies have caps for homes, some have caps for neighborhoods and that becomes ridiculous. Comcast or Xfinity is a known culprit for that. We do not have an infrastructure to support this model; Google themselves stated that during the event.

I guess once we get more information and when this thing releases we can see what it can do. Currently, I am happy that the gaming community sees additional attempts to expand, but I am not on this bandwagon. You're not taking my freedom away from my favorite hobby.

And this is not being closed minded, it is what this model will do to the future of gaming that has most of us concerned. Yes, this is cool but the impact isn't.

SuperSonic911894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

The only non horrible thing about Stadia is the fact that Shuhei Yoshida was there at the keynote as an official guest.
Can't wait to know what is his business with Stadia because PS4 exclusives are also going to PC. Perhaps some PS4 game are also launching on Stadia.

Shawn Layden also hinted at this.

Like PS4 is an evolution of PC/console gaming model Stadia will be an evolution on the mobile/browser gaming model.
Did mobile kill PS4?
Hell no! It actually promoted PS4 and catapulted it to the stratosphere.
Stadia will do the same thing to PS5!
Trust me.

ShadowWolf7121894d ago

You're trying way too hard.

And way off.

Legatus1894d ago

"Can't wait to know what is his business with Stadia because PS4 exclusives are also going to PC."

Wtf did i just read?!?!

SuperSonic911894d ago

@shadow
How is stating historical facts as a benchmark for estimates, analysis and projections trying hard?

Its actually the easiest thing to do because I don't have to start from scratch 😊

Sgt_Slaughter1893d ago

I can't reply to your other comment so I will here.

"Are we the only few positively open minded people around here?"

Cut the crap you troll. You know darn well you are the furthest thing from positive. You trash anything that isn't what you like.

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lazyboyblue1894d ago

No Neonridr is right. If people are willing to pay a premium for artefacts, input lag & compression then that's their choice. It's utter madness but each to their own. 😂

crazyCoconuts1894d ago

I mean, if it sucks it will flop, but wouldn't it be cool if it actually works well?
I can understand reluctance around Google but. they really haven't shared what their business will be with this service yet...

CurbStompin1894d ago

The way I see it, as its a win for developers. Its a way for more people to experience games the otherwise might not have the means to. So although not for me, its a win for gamers as a whole. More money the devs can make the more likely they can afford to stay open and keep making games for us to enjoy.

Sophisticated_Chap1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

I will not do business with a company that helps regimes like Communist China, sensor search engine results, so that the CCP can keep control of information over their citizens. Google is pure evil as far as I'm concerned. I wish there was more competition in the smart phone space, so we would ahve more than just apple and google to choose from. Too much power in the hands of so few.

porkChop1893d ago

What is completely horrible about Google making their own exclusives? I don't understand how it could be a bad thing for them to support their own platform?

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2pacalypsenow1895d ago (Edited 1895d ago )

First exclusive is Candy Crush and Angry Birds.

darthv721895d ago

Cute but those have been out for so long already.

I could see an exclusive version of Asphalt GT. that is actually a fun racer on my phone and there had been a DS and Vita version at one time but most all other versions are for mobile. If they can get the dev to really flesh out the game and make it Forza quality then they might have something there.

Shikoku1894d ago

"Offline downloads just aren't technically possible and not part of our vision"-Phil Harrison yeah Phil we know a vision to control how and what we play and to kill the used games market. No thanks.

Timesplitter141893d ago

Well, that's true though. Stadia has no actual hardware to run the games offline. Stadia is more or less just a wireless controller that is connected to a machine somewhere far away and receives the final output video

TacoTaco1893d ago

Google isn't trying to kill the used game market, they're pretending that it and ownership don't even exist.

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 10h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 22h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 22h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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