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Phil Harrison: Stadia starts an "inevitable and one-way shift" away from consoles

Google VP also addresses concerns about bandwidth caps and those cryptic game teases shown before the keynote.

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Eonjay1895d ago

We will see what happens with this. Right now if it became the only option out there most of us around the world wouldn't be gaming. Technology and internet infrastructure still need to advance to make it viable for everyone.
Let's see where this goes in 10 years.

uth111895d ago

people were having the exact same discussions 10 years ago around Onlive, and mony people's internet quality hasn't improved much since

SuperSonic911894d ago

So Shuhei Yoshida was there at the keynote.
Well that is very interesting indeed.

I wonder what is the deal with SIE games going to Stadia.

ShadowWolf7121894d ago

@Sonic

Yoshida attends Nintendo and Xbox events too. Has for years.

Where's them PS games on Xbox and Switch, yo?

tehpees31894d ago

@uth11

And On Live was early and didn't have a large scale company like Google backing it. Like I said yesterday believing it will fail is extremely short sighted because if a company as big as Google or Apple enter the market you know they intend to be there to see it through.

Having Google's hype behind it instantly gives it an advantage over On Live because people trust Google rather than just a random brand name that just popped up out of nowhere.

SuperSonic911894d ago

@ shadow

For the record let it be known by all that the rights to all Spider-man consumer products tied to the movie titles are owned by Sony.

Activision: "We are thrilled to accept this award from LIMA," states Plager.  "It underscores the tremendous worldwide appeal of the Spider-Man brand among the vast array of high-quality licensed products available in the marketplace.  This honor recognizes the hard work and dedication of everyone at Treyarch, Activision and our partners at Marvel and Sony."

The Spider-Man vide o game was developed by Activision through a license from Spider-Man Merchandising LP, a 50/50 limited partnership comprised of Marvel Enterprises, Inc. and Sony Pictures Consumer Products Inc.  Spider-Man Merchandising LP oversees the licensing and merchandising for the Columbia Pictures "Spider-Man™ 2" motion picture as well as Sony Pictures Television's new "Spider-Man" animated television series.  The "Spider-Man™ 2" motion picture and the new "Spider-Man" animated television series are both based on the Marvel character."

So yeah Sony had lots of their own stuff published on Nintendo and Xbox and PC.

You guys are just lazy to do your homework.

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Fluttershy771894d ago

We, the hardcore gamers won't support it, but what about the casuals? ... I see this, if its done right, as a great option for them
and @uth11 Do you hear what you are saying? Led Zeppelin's song 10 years gone... and it has improved! maybe not for you, but last 10 years the changes have been drastic

optimus1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

@fluttershy....i don't mind it at all...people were hesitant on converting from cd music to digital and now finding a record store is like coming across Stonehenge and marvel at the years that once was...the last time i bought a cd was over 5 years ago (only to rip it on a pc so i can listen to it as i had no cd player) same goes for dvd's. and here we are, people STILL enjoy their movies in their digital iterations, some people are even selling their physical counterparts, cleaning their dusty shelves, racks or boxes; people are just afraid of change but eventually they conform, accept, and learn to embrace it...as far as games go...

picture this possible scenario,(remove all the lagging problems people ASSUME it will have).... say the next assassins creed comes out next year for all consoles including stadia...except it's $60 for the physical and digital versions BUT on stadia it's $15 day 1...no need to wait for download or patches. and you can play it just about anywhere you go with no problems, do you really think people aren't going to flock to that option? that's what google is banking on.

Fluttershy771894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

@optimus Well of course reality is what it is, but we are allowed to be against it. I don't like my music digital,in fact I buy the music I really like - you'll probably laugh - vinyl (better sound quality). I hate netflix (I can never find the movie I want to watch there, and the quality is sht) I buy my movies on Blu-ray
In this day and age, maybe you can't find a record store (I do support the local one and I think we all should), but I'm able to find even new albums releases on vinyl online, easily...
I really don't mind about what the masses chooses to do... Consumers as a whole are easily manipulated... Oh yeah it's so cheap, hey $15!!!... at first... then one day you'll find yourself paying for extra save files.
You'll find yourself waiting for the ads to end because they are interrupting your favorite Metal Gear Solid moment. You'll find that you don't own any of the games, and probably you want to replay an old game you liked, but it isn't there anymore, because it wasn't popular enough... Who cares? You got Assassins Creed!!!

optimus1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

@Fluttershy....that's basically my point. you can be against any form of new media but it's not going to matter much if it's convenient and makes money. buying your media in physical form is fine but you limit your consumption of it. where you and people like you were once considered the masses of the industry, are now a niche group. where you might find the unique sound of a needle scraping in the grooves between the tracks of a vinyl record endearing, others love the noiseless transition of tracks on a cd or mp3....

yes, consumers are easily manipulated which is why companies pay millions to put their ads on tv's...and consumers won't mind it if said product brings a level of convenience with it...cable companies are losing customers by the thousands on a monthly basis because of the convenience (and price) that comes with streaming...gaming is no different... i have a whole rack of games i USED to play last generation and some this generation. the more i look at it the more i realize it's just taking up space...selling or trading any of those games will profit me enough for a decent lunch for 2 people...not really worth the hundreds i spent on them originally....ownership is overrated at that point...plus, games will never die if their roms still exist somewhere on the web...the many roms sites today is proof of that.

however, if i had access to them in digital format and access to them anywhere at any time then i would likely play a few of them again should the nostalgia strike me without worry of getting something scratched or my disc drive suddenly not working...again, convenience is what will drive the industry forward and google and Microsoft are seeing this now....

having in game ads interrupt your game is just mere speculation on your part. we're talking about a subscription service here; no different than the music streaming services that are commercial free with a paid subscription.

Stevonidas1893d ago

With Phil Harrison running things, they're sure to fuck something up. How that guy keeps getting hired is beyond my understanding.

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XiNatsuDragnel1895d ago

I want this to fail tbh so can we have options in the future

SuperSonic911894d ago

How about PS Now on PC?
Its the same idea isn't it?

XiNatsuDragnel1894d ago

Still not successful and meant as an option not a permanent thing

mcstorm1894d ago

Tbh I think Google are going the wrong way about it.

I think Microsofts vision of having a choice of cloud and console is the direction people/companys will go.

The way its seems its going to be sold is xcloud will be for casual market but also an added extra to play your owned games on the go./away from your home console.

For me that's a better option. Adding services in there like game pass is also a bonus. We also don't know what 3rd party games will be on Google service. For it to work they will need COD, Fifa to name a few. I also think it needs to be cross play to because of the small user base it will have at the start.

For me I think this is the start of a new way to play games with just a device connected to the Web but I also think Sony Nintendo and Microsoft have the advantage because of the big name exclusives, having full consoles and then offering this as a service to.

Only time will tell if this will be a hit or not but for me I'm more interested in xcloud than this from what has been said but when all said and done we won't know what they are like until we get to play them for our self's.

2pacalypsenow1895d ago

The last thing we need is Google dominating another sector.

I hope this fails, leave gaming to Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

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crazyCoconuts1894d ago

MS is better positioned than Google here. I'm assuming the power advantage on the cloud won't amount to that much when you factor in the REAL resolution you get with compressed and dynamic streams as well as the fact that new and more powerful consoles are on the way in a year or two.

Shikoku1894d ago (Edited 1894d ago )

They will be announced this year dude bank on it

Thundercat771894d ago

If MS power of the cloud is as powerful as the power of the cloud in Crackdown 3, then they are in trouble.

Dragonscale1894d ago

That depends on what ms plans are and its not looking good tbh. Dunno about Sony but can't see Nintendo going down that route tbh.

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Kurupt1894d ago

Honestly hope it fails...i like traditional consoles and my physical copies..so Google can f*** off with ur "I'm taking over and that's that"..

JackBNimble1894d ago

I really don't think traditional consoles are going anywhere anytime soon.
Until 5G infrastructure is mainstream without data caps then streaming can only remain limited for most people.

bluefox7551894d ago

Yeah, no thanks. I hate that I'm forced to use Google products as it is. I won't be buying their sh*tty game service.

SephirothX211894d ago

A lot of people speaking prematurely here. Just because you don't like the idea of something, doesn't mean its shitty. You haven't tried it yet. Streaming is the future. It's just a matter of when. Consoles for people with poor internet. Streaming for the rest. Network speeds and infrastructure will improve to the point where input speed differences are negligible. Consoles don't come out quickly enough to be able to take advantage of current technological breakthroughs. Streaming will allow much faster hardware upgrades. A game company will eventually not provide both options because it will not be viable due to the hardware differences between the console and the hardware in the data centres that is being upgraded a lot more frequently.

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 8h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken1d 21h ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 19h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2032d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 19h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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