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Phil Spencer Clearly Understands Fans' Concerns, But Can Microsoft Deliver this E3?

Phil Spencer is back in the headlines today, having taken to Twitter to answer some fan questions regarding the Xbox One library, Game Pass, and the plans moving forward. He acknowledged the platform’s lack of new IP, as well as a fan’s outcry for more first-party Western-RPGs. This clear understanding of Microsoft’s shortcomings is reassuring to see, but will it translate to their E3 presentation this year?

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alexgibson2219d ago

Microsoft's E3's have been getting progressively better in recent years - they've just been missing the clout of interesting new exclusives. Phil definitely seems to have his ear to the ground on that one, so here's hoping he's got something up his sleeve.

CaptainOmega2219d ago

What are you talking about? Last year's E3 was all smoke and mirrors.

gamerpop2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

Agree, they need to improve.

NXFather2219d ago

Yeah but those smoke and mirrors were presented in a more entertaining way than before. Yeah we all know they need solid new games.

showtimefolks2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

all talk than go before sony and use the word exclusive as much as possible but than sony comes after and shows what a gaming conference is suppose to look like. With the amount of pressure phil/xbox is under it wouldn't surprise me to see them do something stupid like buying EA or pay a lot of money for a timed exclusive

ThinkThink2219d ago

Smoke and mirrors? How so?

Kryptix2219d ago

"WORLD PREMIERE"
"CONSOLE LAUNCH EXCLUSIVE"

Oh yea, I still remember those True 4k like marketing terms.

Seems like Phil has been struggling to come up with other magical tingly words to make up for the blackvoid in between anything actually notable.

I expect more from MS than 2017 but I also expect Sony and Nintendo to steal the show once again.

polow got sol2219d ago

Ms e3 was all smoke and mirrors?? Well where in the world is shenmue 3 and ff7 remake?? Let’s not talk about smoke and mirrors now we know who’s the master of that.

CaptainOmega2219d ago

@polow

Shenmue 3 and FF7 remake are coming.

Last E3 MS said there was 20+ exclusives shown... in fact only 18 were shown. And of course they need to use confusing words.

Their E3 is all hype and never substance.

Godmars2902219d ago

Thing about smoke and mirrors, especially in this case NX, is that something tangible needs to be delivered at some point. And that's something MS just hasn't been doing.

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bouzebbal2218d ago

was litterally garbage last year with amazing gameplay from crackdown 3 and powahh af da clawwwwddddd...
this year they will show TR and they will announce a timed exclusive DLC.
they shouldn't only show concern to the fans on camera and still do what pleases them behind. They should listen and act in consideration..

Omnislashver362218d ago

FFVIIR and Shenmue III are not Sony properties, just Sony exclusives...

As much as I'm hyped for it, I can tell they're in development hell.(although I doubt it will be nearly as bad as FFvXIII). Either way, we can't blame Sony for what Square-Enix does.

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Obscure_Observer2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

@alexgibson

"Phil definitely seems to have his ear to the ground on that one, so here's hoping he's got something up his sleeve."

Same here, man. Now that he got promoted, i hope he has more power to make the right calls without so much interference from the higher ups. Since Satya Nadella gave Phil his blessings to make more and better investments on Xbox, i hope Phil to do right for Xbox gamers that put their trust and hard-earned money on the Xbox brand.

Hopefully they will do a good show. :)

showtimefolks2219d ago

what he been promoted and all he has done is cancel games and close studios. And please stop this with now he has power he was always a higher up at xbox division and if he wanted to he could have gotten things done. Atleast don matrick got xbox brand on kind of even ground with ps3

ThinkThink2219d ago

Cancelling bad games and closing unproductive studios is a bad thing now?

rainslacker2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

Don Mattrick had all sorts of power to get things done. He actually did get things done. Despite what he brought with the X1 at launch, I have a feeling that was more MS directive to do something that MS wanted, than what he himself felt was what was needed. Beyond that though, Mattrick was pretty good about getting games made. Even when he backed off the 1st party stuff on the 360, they had more releasing than they have now. In fact, almost everything the Xbox has had this gen so far was started under his reign. The only high profile game that didn't start with him was the last Gears and the last couple Forza games.

I didn't like Mattrick any more than the next guy, but he did a better job than Spencer. He was terrible at PR, but you knew what he and MS stood for based on what they were doing. Their vision was clear with the 360 Mattrick years and with the early X1 years, even when he couldn't sell it very well. With Spencer, people are left questioning what the hell MS actually wants to achieve, and when Spencer says something, it's easy to doubt. With Mattrick, even if you didn't like what he said, you knew what he was going to bring.

I'm sorry, but based on Phil's performance, I can't see why anyone would have faith in him. He's ushered in some features that are worthy of praise...although most didn't start under him. He's ushered out MS actually releasing compelling high profile games.

The difference between the two.

Spencer is a mouthpiece with no apparent control or vision. Mattrick was a leader that just didn't do what the hardcore gamers liked. If Mattrick was in charge of doing what Spencer said he wants to do, I have no doubt that Mattrick would have it done, and MS software troubles wouldn't be anywhere near what they are now. You may not have BC....but that sounds like a fair trade.

To me, the fact that I actually need to equate the two, and find Mattrick having done better, is more than enough to say that Spencer is pretty ineffectual. The only two options with Spencer are is that he's leading Xbox into a terrible future if you're a hardcore gamer with his GaaS, fewer 1st party games directive, or he's nothing but a puppet that has no control and just executes what MS wants done.

Obscure_Observer2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

@showtimefolks

Well dude, what can i say? If you think Xbox is beyond "salvation" under Phil Spencer tenure you should stop following Xbox news and just move on. In case you didn´t notice, the man is here for the long road. The past is gone. Don Mattrick is gone and he´s only missed by guys like you. Go follow him on twitter or something. Hopefully that guy will never come back to Xbox. Ever!

ShottyatLaw2219d ago

@Rain

It has taken - and will continue to take - years to correct the Mattrick effect on the brand.

After Mattrick was awarded one of the "Smartest Men in Tech" and other misplaced accolades for his not-so-visionary brilliance, he undid everything Peter Moore and others built in short time.

The shift to Kinect and TV, TV, TV, were under his direction. Let's give credit where it's due. He made MS money, but at what cost? Those games you praise from X1? 3rd party exclusives that all failed commercially. That visionary launched a weaker system, for more money, with threats of always online BS. That is as big of a fail that we've ever seen.

We all complain about Rare's turn to Kinect shovel ware or all of these closed studios. Well, thanks, Don. Half of their studios were for BS Kinect games.

Spencer is obviously showing some kind of success or he wouldn't be moving up the ladder. He's not perfect, but remember, there's a reason Don doesn't have Spencer's job. Maybe, just maybe, we don't know all the details, and old Don was pretty terrible. Have you read those interviews about the toxicity in the division when Spencer took over? Where do you think that came from?

The revisionist history annoys me. Mattrick was bad for all of us. It amazes me that he gets credit for all the good, and Spencer gets blamed for all the bad. Spencer still has a lot to improve, but it seems pretty obvious that he's set a long term recovery plan. That type of plan wouldn't be necessary if someone hadn't screwed up in the first place.

This E3 might not be that great for MS, but I guarantee that there won't be child actors on stage playing with motion controlled tigers.

rainslacker2219d ago

Within two years of Mattrick taking over, not only did he have already have a line up of games for the X1, although that left the 360 in the lurch, but he also introduced and released the Kinect, and drove sales to the console by making it attractive to the casual gamer.

While that wasn't great for us hardcore gamers, there is no denying what he actually did was effectual and that he did something productive.

I don't like Mattrick much because he decided to not pay as much attention to the casuals, but it didn't take Mattrick four years to simply come up with the excuse that it would take time, and that maybe in the next couple years we'd see something. He delivered on what he said he would....such as it was.

Mattrick was a leader. One that we didn't like. But a leader none the less.

Spencer cant even express what MS vision is. He's all over the place in his PR, and it seems like he's more interested in throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. He's more than happy to make promises with nothing to show for it. That isn't leadership. That's pandering to a fan base. Mattrick didn't pander. He delivered. When he didn't have the games that the hardcore wanted, he didn't promise there would be more in the years to come. He focused on what they had then and there. Again, we didn't like that, but it shows that at least he wasn't just making promises.

Under Mattricks tenure, he green lit and went after new IP's. Things like Ryse, QB, SSoD,Scalebound, etc. How many new IP's has Spencer green lit in the past four years? Dunno, because it takes time apparently. Almost everything new and compelling that Xbox has had, and almost everything that xbox fans have hyped up this gen started with Mattrick, not Spencer.

Mattrick was terrible at PR. Spencer is a good PR face. Being good at PR doesn't mean he's doing better, it means he seems like a nice guy. I'd rather have an a**hole at the helm if they actually deliver games.

I don't disagree that Mattrick was bad for the brand with the new vision, but at least he seemed to know that games were still important. My contention in the comparison is that Spencer is somehow doing better, because if you actually look at what was achieved in what we care about most, Mattrick certainly comes out better. It's just Mattrick was bad with the public.

Spencer moving up the ladder appears to be because he's decent at delivering this convoluted message that MS wants to deliver. He's obviously doing what MS wants him to do, which I'm assuming is delivering a connected console where GaaS will be more a thing. If Spencer manages to show something new soon, and it looks to be that it's reasonable that it will release, then I'll change my thoughts. But it shouldn't have taken four years for Spencer to get all this going. Even three if we assume that they are waiting it out to show some stuff.

Dragonscale2218d ago

@obscure, don't you get sick of just living in hope all he time.

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ShottyatLaw2218d ago

@rain

Selective memory. Mattrick gets handed the keys after Moore righted that ship. Xbox was in the black, had market share, and had Ballmer's checkbook.

In a few short years, he pissed it all away. Don was a leader alright, just a pretty terrible one.

It didn't take him years because he took over when things were going good. He coasted to the end of the 360 gen with COD marketing and Just Dance games. Then when it came time to shine, he blew all of their success in mere months. That's a great leader.

Go ask ND, GG, or SSM how long it takes to deliver awesome games.

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ChiefofLoliPolice2219d ago

Lmao what have you been smoking?

Atticus_finch2219d ago

I would say Xbox's conferences keep getting more cringe worthy.

TheSaint2218d ago

You're literally part of the problem with MS, you just keep hyping them up when there is noting to hype. Makes them think they are doing a good job.

Try being less of a fanboy and more of an objective consumer.

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skcej2219d ago

Just gimme Fable and we're good.

darthv722219d ago

A nice Fable collection would be really welcomed.

THC CELL2219d ago

Why stuff u already played??

-Foxtrot2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

@THC CELL

Well I don't think that's a bad thing...give it another 10 years and sure a Fable remastered trilogy will seem more appealing but I think what they need is remakes of older games that didn't have much time to shine. Some straight up remakes and maybe some like te new Ratchet and Clank were they are re-tellings

Another Conker Remake with a better online

Blinx: The Time Sweeper

Kung Fu Chaos

Banjo-Kazooie

Grabbed by the Ghoulies

Kameo: Elements of Power

Prey

Eldyraen2219d ago

I’d be down for that if they were remake/remastered and not just straight up ports.

So something bigger than what I can get with Anniversary on the X.

showtimefolks2219d ago

the cell

because that's what xbox one as a console

pay $499 to play old games. people are bragging about BC more than asking ms where are the exclusives

ThinkThink2219d ago

I've never played a fable game so I would give the collection a look if it was on game pass.

rainslacker2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

I'd go for that. Played the first on PC and really liked it. Never had a 360 so didn't play the 2nd two.

Will have to see if they're available through BC because thinking on it, I actually would like to give them a go.

Maybe with the rumored new Fable game they'll release a trilogy or something.

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EdMcGlone2219d ago

Sad, but kind of true to be honest. Hopefully this year is different :(

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Heelix2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

as soon as you lose your job.

Why wish for another what you wouldn't wish on yourself?

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there's been some sort of improvement every E3 whether it's what you want is another conversation.

I expect good things at this E3 as well from all three platform holders.

The Wood2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

Ok. . . Asking for him to be fired is a tad harsh from a humanistic point of view I agree. But from a gamer point of view . demote his ass instead. Xbox has done worst under his tenure especially in regards to output. .

He understands the fans. . . yet this started years ago and slight of hand has kept some fans and media looking away from their issues. I still believe his hands are tied but if they aren't then he deserves the criticisms levelled against him.

trooper_2219d ago

So Heelix, what new IPs did he announce that made you excited?

I'll wait.

Eldyraen2219d ago

They promoted him again actually so very unlikely.

Last year higher ups in MS, and not just Xbox, got into the Game talk on a bigger scale so hopefully they can pull something from up their sleeves finally. It would be nice if e3 started that ball rolling even if I have a feeling most won’t flower for another year or so (last year of One or at launch of next).

ThinkThink2219d ago

Xbox fans love him. Sony fans hate him. That should tell you something.

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blackblades2219d ago

All I can say is people need to stop overhyping everything, it'll just leave a big disappointment. Hell hyping in general and not just with ms.

XiNatsuDragnel2219d ago

No offensive but every yr we get the same PR and no results it frustrates me as a gamer.

DigitalRaptor2219d ago

True but it's pretty straight forward.

They're gonna announce and show lots of games this E3, but will any of it be unexpected or unprecedented?

I'm anticipating that they will present:
- the announcements of Halo 6 and Forza Horizon 4
- more footage and information on Crackdown 3, Ori 2, Below, Ashen etc
- debuts of third-party multiplats like Cyberpunk 2077
- other timed-exclusive indie games
- more service and backwards compatibility announcements

but all of that is run of the mill and expected. For the time being, I think people will be excited by the news and praise the announcements of games, but then you realise that it's not really any improvement over previous years. They're supposed to be showing more of the announced games at a dedicated event (like Nintendo's Treehouse), so maybe they could make it a special kind of E3 that way, but I dunno.

ChiefofLoliPolice2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

Get a ps4 then or a PC.

DivineAssault 2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

Phil Spencer is a troll.. He's been telling/hinting at stuff for YEARS! Empty promises that give some people hope.. Yet not a damn thing ever comes of it.. Im done with those jokers until i see compelling titles i cant play anywhere else.. I believe MS will have a flashy show at E3.. However, when you trim the fat, we'll be lucky to have even 2 games worth preordering. I dont believe anything that PR mouthpiece spews out..

Obscure_Observer2219d ago

@DivineAssault

"However, when you trim the fat, we'll be lucky to have even 2 games worth preordering."

Don´t be so dramatic. Looks like Halo 6 and Forza Horizon 4 announcements is a given. Do you really think that only those 2 games will be worth a pre order?

DivineAssault 2219d ago

uhhhh i wouldnt pre order either of those 2.. I stand by what i said.. Halo, gears, & forza need a break dude.. Its time for them to evolve or for new blood to enter the mix

Razmiran2219d ago

I very much doubt halo 6 will be worth a preorder

Obscure_Observer2219d ago

@DivineAssault

Well, you said "we" so i though that would imply the average Xbox One and PC gamers which i think will no doubt pre orders those games in case the said games are Halo and Forza Horizon fans. Nevermid.

Anyway, i also think that Microsoft need new ips and some franchises could definelly use a break. Thing is, i don´t think racing gamers got tired of the Forza Horizon series yet specially PC Gamers. Forza Horizon 3 is the best racing game of this generation and if rumors are true, people will be excited about a Forza Horizon set in Japan. Halo 6 is the last part of the new trilogy, so i think most fans will like to see how it ends. After that, they can put Halo on an hiatus and maybe allow 343i to do something new.

DivineAssault 2219d ago (Edited 2219d ago )

We'll see but sometimes too much exposure can hurt the franchise..I think Forza, Gears, & Halo ALL need a good break.. I dont see why they cant put together a good dev team to create something new & exciting.. I got my fingers crossed even though i skipped them this gen.. I want them to do well so it keeps sony on their toes.. This philosophy of MP & games as a service with microtransactions is out of hand..

EyeAmTJ2218d ago

thats like saying Nintendo needs to give Mario & Zelda a break haha

Kryptix2218d ago

@Obscure

If Gears 4 was of any indication, don't think even us PC gamers are interested in buying anything from the W10 store.

Why do you think Quantum Break eventually got put on Steam?

Regardless, another Halo and Forza re-enforces a lack of vision. It's gonna be 2 decades dancing to the same flute? Meh.

It's like opening a bag of Skittles and getting only 1 flavor or opening a pack of cards and getting the same rare every time. You don't need too many of the same card to make a great deck.

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ThinkThink2219d ago

I know! It's almost like games take years to make.

MasterCornholio2218d ago

Yes they do which is why they should have started earlier. But we won't know until they come out right?

ChiefofLoliPolice2219d ago

You will be able to play them elsewhere. Its called PC as MS seems to move closer to it by offering Xbox exclusives on PC.

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[Exclusive] Xbox Reaches Agreement With Batman: Arkham Trilogy Creators For A New AAA Game

Ex-Rocksteady directors' Hundred Star is collaborating with Xbox Game Studios Publishing for its first-ever AAA game.

Lightning777h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Highly doubt it'll be an actual Batman game that IP belongs to WB Games along with other DC property.

They're making an action adventure game. IMO I think it needs to be another Marvel game despite MS already have Blade as that action Marvel game. Dead Pool? Punisher?

Realistically it'll probably be a new IP entirely.

The_Hooligan5h ago

I agree with you. I think I'll be a brand new IP. Now it could be a superhero themed, kind of like infamous. Speaking of which, Suckerpunch needs to make one after Ghost 2.

neutralgamer19925h ago

would love a infamous collection for ps5/pc

Lightning775h ago

I definitely think it'll be super hero themed game 100%. Something MS needs in their portfolio.

ThinkThink3h ago

Please, no more super hero games.

PhillyDonJawn2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Dead Pool or Punisher would be amazing!!!
Don't tease me like that man lol. I see them making a new IP that's like an arkham knight clone

MIDGETonSTILTS175h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I hope these devs needed support to start/finish (like Stalker 2), vs are basically done with the game but wanted to secure an exclusivity-bonus because they know Xbox needs a system seller (like Titanfall).

It’s a bit strange that they’d rather invest in this game than Tangoworks’ TWO canceled projects; or just trust a single dev from their existing massive stable of talent to emerge with a system-seller themselves anytime soon.

Either way, it is just cool that we’ll likely get a new IP from the geniuses behind the Arkham Trilogy. I wonder how creative they’ll get now that they aren’t married to an established franchise.

darthv725h ago

This is about the former co-founders of Rocksteady and their new studio. So naturally it makes people think its Batman related with the way its worded, even though its not.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Exclusive? Sure

This year alone Microsoft has changed their plans so much with Xbox regarding multiplatform releases as they step closer to just being a full blown third party publisher and it's only been 4-5 months, imagine where we'll be once this game is finished. It will be a completely different landscape.

ThinkThink2h ago

I don't think MS will ever go completely full 3rd party with all of their games. I can see them looking towards expanding their own mobile store and moving into Mac as ways of expanding. I'm sure ms will bring more exclusives over to ps and nintendo, but I don't think it'll be as many games as you think it will. I hope I'm wrong.

Lightning772h ago

The ever contradictions thoughts and actions of MS definitely says otherwise MS changed up so much on the past 6 months of the year I lost count.

Though I'm more declined to believe they also won't go full 3rd party also.

But.

This year they're having Renaissance a super bowl of gaming with Gamepass this year. BO6, older ABK games, Avowed, Indy and other 3rd party exclusives all to grow and expand gamepass. If these games don't grow the service or grow only a little bit. Then you can fully expect MS to hit the red button and put everything everywhere. Satya will have full Xbox take over doing what he wants from that point on next year.

It's up to Xbox to advertise these games and gamepass in the next 6 months or so get the word out.

Profchaos1h ago

The more the news evolves the more I'm inclined to believe we will see MS embrace full third party status but not call it third party in their word soup ways.

It will be Xbox everywhere plays best on a Xbox.

Next gen Xbox is rumoured to be a reference design similar to the 3d0 where any company can make and sell it.

If you're offloading hardware costs to a third party yet still profiting from the games then you've cut out losses on the hardware you still have a store front that users can use and still make a 30 percent cut on that.

Your games sell for a profit on PS and Nintendo platforms and on Xbox reference hardware along with PC

You lose .kney on DLC and games sold on a competitor storefront they are seemingly already comfortable with this.

The ms bean counters are coming for the ROI that was promised they don't care if they kill the brand as it stands Xbox was never a profitable business it was always just done for reputation

PhillyDonJawn1h ago

@Lightning the would end the console then. No one would buy Xbox over PS at that point cause now you get both with just a PS. If GP flop for them, Logically, rolling back on GP would be the smarter than to do. No more day 1 title. Less quality titles. They'd lose subs but people would go back to buying the games.

Lightning774m ago

@Philly They could scale back gamepass put Indies only, AAA 1st party games coming 4 to 6 months from release. The thing is MS will have to tell their fans to buy their games again and that's gonna take years and years to condition them to buy games again. MS will lose money from that also. They'll lose out on gamepass revenue, lose out on games sales because their fans don't buy as many games anymore.

I can't see them scaling back or axing gamepass it does make them allot of money, they just want more money from it. They're not gonna condition their fans to start buying games either.

As I said they'll go full 3rd party and yes you ate right, if they do that then there would be no reason to buy the next Xbox. I know j won't be, you better hope the next 6 months they advertise the games and GP there little hearts out because this could be it.

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purple1014h ago

Spawn (as well as master chief) are the only characters I associate with Xbox. Are there more I can’t remember?

rlow13h ago

Gears is another big game one.

purple1013h ago

Yeh big game, do you know the name of the lead character. Or team of lead characters. I don’t

rlow13h ago

Marcus, Dom, Cole Train. And I can’t remember the fourth.

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Also the chick from gears 5 seems to pop up on all their modern advertising I can't remember her name either.

Cars also feature heavily in a Xbox ad it's always master chief front and centre with cars and maybe a gears character hanging around

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

-Foxtrot1d 12h ago

RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga11h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

Knightofelemia1d 10h ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord16h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame8188h ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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