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Xbox One X's Albert Penello impressed and 'surprised' by PS4 Pro

The Xbox One X is the most powerful console ever made, but coming a year after the PS4 Pro, we wondered if Microsoft was concerned about being seen as a bit late to the party. But Albert Penello, who leads marketing for Xbox consoles globally, told MCV that he was full of admiration for the PS4 Pro:

Deep-throat2425d ago (Edited 2425d ago )

I am not impressed by the Pro because it ain't pro enough!

No, the console is fine but it's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games...

Bloodborne
Driveclub
Uncharted collection
Gravity Rush remaster
God of War 3 remaster
Killzone shadow fall
Alienation
Until Dawn

WePlayDirty2424d ago

"It's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games"...

It's the developers that choose to update their games.

Bigpappy2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

All of the games he mentioned are PS4 exclusives. I agree with him. Sony has enough influence to keep content off of other consoles, but cant even get their w exclusives updated?

Can't let you put this one on developers.

Deep-throat2424d ago

Bro I'm pretty sure that's Sony's decision. They can hire any studio to update their games for the Pro.

S2Killinit2423d ago

But you should be impressed considering they are killing the competition by offering...games.

Death2423d ago

@S2,

I was under the impression it was the larger global appeal. Game sales don't justify your opinion since we see how many these games sell and how sales impacted some of the developers. Attach rates between PS4 and its closest competitor are the same. I'm not sure how you can conclude releasing more games resulted in higher sales.

Cryptcuzz2423d ago

@bigpappy

I'm sure there developers are busy creating new exclusive games rather than updating old games that have been released prior to the Pro's release. Almost all, if not all those franchise mentioned are already having their next game developed now and you can bet that it'll have Pro support.

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bouzebbal2423d ago

i've got to agree with him on this one..
developers do the update, but the publisher pays the ressources. not sure you know the difference developer/publisher.
i am also surprised not many 1st party titles are patched.

Unspoken2423d ago

No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.

Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful.

FoxyGotGame2423d ago

@UNSPOKEN "No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.
Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful."

MSFT show admiration to Sony for PS4 Pro and all the likes of you can do is bare your insecurities in what amounts to nothing more than imaginary console fanboy warfare. Whether kiddin' or not, you've displayed true embarrassment to the game community ...

*Sigh

pinkcrocodile752423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

@WePlayDirty I'm happy for you to say it's not Sony's fault, just down to the developers because that is the exact same rule of thumb for Microsoft. 4k@60 is always down to the developers for all vendors so Sony and Microsoft's job was to build a system they believe would do the job and its now down to the developers to make their games shine, not Sony's and no Microsoft's. End of!

spreadlove2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

If it is the developers that choose to update their games, then developers seem to prefer to update Xbox games for the power of Xbox One X. I wonder why. Is it because it is so much more awesome somehow on Xbox?

Captain_Tom2423d ago

I don't buy that at all. Sony is the leader of their own ecosystem and it is up to them to take the initiative and simply tell devs they need to update these games.

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DivineAssault 2424d ago

Some devs get incentives but most of them choose to do this.. Practice for next gen as well as making their game more appealing..

k2d2423d ago

Not at all weird if MS opts to go the extra mile to polish their xbox 360 for xbox one x..

On the other hand - why should Sony spend money and resources on PS3 upgrades, when they can focus on new PS4 Pro titles? It's not like they've got MS breathing down their necks quite yet..

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WePlayDirty2424d ago

@Pappy

Whatever influence Sony has to keep content off other consoles has nothing to do with developers updating their games for PS4 Pro.

Games released before the Pro came out are supported with the Boost Mode feature on the Pro.

Outside_ofthe_Box2424d ago

You're not impressed by the Pro, but have no qualms or suggestions to improve the hardware...

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lukferr2424d ago (Edited 2424d ago )

You know what they are doing without a doubt? FOCUSING nearly all of their attention on NEW Exclusives. More massive games that can only be played on Playstation. Horizon Zero Dawn is the best looking open-world game this generation. Just breath takingly amazing. PS4 is where it's at. This is my opinion of course, but it's an opinion shared by the vast majority of gamers.

Kavorklestein2423d ago

Actually, out of that VAST majority you speak of, only about 10% bought HZD. More people chose PS4 for performance. An edge Ps4 AND Pro are about to lose.. whether by an inch or by a mile... these days, power wins.
Exclusives are the last hurrah of people trying to de-value competition and general enjoyment.
The best gamers see value everywhere they look.
Fanboy losers see nothing more than reasons to hate on everyone/everything till they die.

lukferr2423d ago

@ Kavoklestein, who in the hell said they were choosing PS4 for the performance boost? They chose it because of Playstation's history and brand name and what that means for games in general.
I also meant that the vast majority of gamers think PS4 is better than Xbox console. Because it is.

Kavorklestein2419d ago

I actually think playstation is great and I would totally get one if I didnt already have xbox. Someday I'll definitely have both. But Oh well life goes on haha we all have our own way of seeing value and preference.

MrFisher212423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

You really went out of your way to name actual big games. And they all did get updates. Lmao. And bloodborne is helped by boost mode. I can confirm that.

Kavorklestein2423d ago

I'm oh So glad I can count on you to confirm that.

ocelot072423d ago

Do have to agree about Sony not giving a Pro patch to some of their own first party titles. Mostly Uncharted Collection, Until Dawn, Driveclub and Bloodborne is the real kicker considering DS3 got a pro patch and greatly benefited from it in my opinion.

Elda2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

I'm a Pro owner & I agree knowing most of those games are owned by Sony. Especially Bloodborne & Driveclub.

letsa_go2423d ago

I don't agree with your first statement because the Xbox One X is only "slightly better" than the PS4 Pro. (Am I doing it right?)

However I do agree that Sony should update all those games. All the games your mention are First Party titles (minus bloodborne) so there is no reason why they can't enable higher graphics settings. I definitely think driveclub would benefit, even though the developer is no longer around. There has to be someone at Sony that can patch it.

Ju2423d ago

Of course. The Janitor. Anybody can do it

letsa_go2422d ago (Edited 2422d ago )

@Ju You aren't wrong. Theoretically, a janitor can move a few sliders in the video settings. More than likely though it would be a config file that you manually edit the entries.

and haha no thumbs up? Do you sony fanboys not want these games patched or something? I am confused. I have a ps4 pro and own the majority of these games, and would love to play them at higher than 1080p. Or play Driveclub at 60fps. Why would you not want that too?

Or did I upset the xbox fanboys for saying "DA BEAST" is only slightly better than ps4 pro? Just using your favorite term from the first 4 years of this generation, and your explanation of the 40% more GPU horsepower on the base PS4.

Razzer2423d ago

How about Forza 5/6, MCC, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War Ultimate. Did they get 1X support?

Rude-ro2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Pssssst... because they spend time and money making new games while the old games still are impressive. That is what happens when you deal with a game developing company.
Unlike Xbox that never even hit this gen, now, their old library of sub hd games will be this gen if you buy their new hardware.
Is it really that hard to understand?

Razzer2423d ago

It is a valid point. Sony has been moving forward. The game library is the proof.

DarXyde2423d ago

I wouldn't consider remasters "big games", though The Last of Us Remastered did receive an upgrade.

I think you're assuming these games will not be receiving an upgrade eventually. It also depends on how busy the studios are with current projects (Evolution withstanding).

Hardiman2423d ago

While it's a treat to get Pro patches for older games I'll tell ya what's even better......getting NEW games that have pro patches such as GT Sport, God of War, Days Gone, Spider Man, Detroit Become Human and so on. Not to mention third party titls and I see you guys always downplaying checkerboard rendering but the X will be utilizing CBR for most AAA third party titles and only some indie and the few Microsoft exclusives that look cartoony such as Sea of Theives will be native 4K.

MegamanXXX2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Why do you have over 80 degrees then LMAO What's also hilarious Bigpappy post this article

blackblades2423d ago

Why, they're old and been played by most. It'll be a waste it's better just to move on.

QUIMICOMORTAL2423d ago

I see your point! but then you should make the case against sony and not the ps4 pro!

Gwiz2422d ago (Edited 2422d ago )

These games that are coming out now are build with HDR in mind,some of these games listed don't even make sense as they were PS3 titles.(remember how 3D was basically the same thing with the PS3?)

rainslacker2422d ago

I'm not impressed with the X because it's not X'ey enough. Too little X. Plus, X is a variable of unknown quantification for function analysis and processing, and is a lame marketing moniker which is meant to attract the feeble minded. At least the Pro denotes that maybe it's a professional system....which it isn't, so yeah, I guess it's not pro enough. They say everything seems cooler with an X at the end. Since it's not MS 10th console, the X is pure marketing.

Anyhow, both are comments are stupid. What does not pro enough, or not X enough even mean? It's just a name.

SpinalRemains1382422d ago

You're upset about old games? To each their own I suppose. I prefer new games myself.

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freshslicepizza2423d ago

Oh, so you still think the Xbox One X was a reaction to the PS4 Pro?

RegorL2423d ago

Yes, it is almost certainly so.
What do you think?

Microsofts whole E3 announcement 2016 was a panic reaction to PS4 Pro. But they had nothing to really show
- the motherboard was CGI rendered

But they had certainly worked on it since the first rumours of PS4 Pro earlier that year (possibly even late 2015)

blackblades2423d ago

Pretty much, pro is a midgen nothing to big because it's just midgen. X on the other hand ms went all out for a midgen why, sounds desperate.

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XtaZ2423d ago

We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, and let's not forget all the N4G articles about the upgraded Xbox rumor where PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade (Funny how fast opinion changed the second the Pro rumor appeared, lol) Sony feeling they had to create the Pro when they had both the sales and power advantage made zero sense unless they felt threatened.

MasterCornholio2423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

@XtaZ

"We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, "

You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true.

"PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade"

Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount?

What's with your obsession with Sony fanboys?

hamburgerhill2423d ago

"You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true."

No, but the pro is such a minor upgrade that I wouldn't be surprised if it were one of the actual release PS4 designs. Sony watched the MS announcement and went with the cheaper more affordable PS4.

"Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount? "

Now that's some serious spin.

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XiNatsuDragnel2423d ago

Yes dude it's called opportunity when it striked and pro was the calayst.

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Pantz2423d ago

I love my PS4 Pro, but that just means I'm going to love my Xbox One X even more. It's nice to see Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has. I will be enjoying both wonderfully powerful consoles on my beautiful 4K HDR HDTV in November!

xX-oldboy-Xx2423d ago

*4K HDR UHD TV.

Maybe get a PC, you don't seem short of cash.

Nothing on the market looks as good as HZD, and that's just the start for PS4PRO

Pantz2423d ago

Thanks, you're right about UHD. Ultra is the name for this. I am saving up for a new PC, but I know it will cost at least $2000 to beat the Xbox One X's graphics. So it will take a little while. And that doesn't even include the cost of an Ultrawide HDR monitor with G-Sync. Anyway PC's are more for all the old-style indy games it seems.

xX-oldboy-Xx2423d ago

Fair call mate, I usually build a PC every 3 - 4 Yrs - depending on what card is getting released. It does get expensive.

DJustinUNCHAIND2423d ago

Or let him do what he wants?

Condemnedman2422d ago

how many games do hdr on the PC? pro is just a minor resolution bump and the X will be pissing past that

xX-oldboy-Xx2422d ago

Condemnedman - PlayStation 4/Pro are better supported, throw in PC and you have a great set up.

Xbox/MS are pale imitations of how good gaming companies should operate.

The X is a great bit of kit, it just won't be supported by it's maker.

I'll happily eat crow if MS can prove me wrong over the next few years.

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Atticus_finch2423d ago

"It's nice to see Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has"
What?! Lol. Every PS4 is HDR ready since 2013, all 65 million of them.

Pantz2423d ago

It's been out nearly a year and not all that many games that came out during that time opted to use HDR. Microsoft's already come out with quite a few HDR games for the Xbox One S even before the Xbox One X came out. Just saying I wish they would have pushed developers to use it more.

Atticus_finch2423d ago

There is a ton of games with Infamous, Rachet and clank, uncharted, GTs and HZD being the best looking. And you can bet every Sony 1st party game will support it.

nitus102423d ago (Edited 2423d ago )

Seems a strange thing to say when all PS4's support HDR while only the XB1s and the XB1x support it. The original XB1 does not.

Well if you have the money you could get a beautiful 8K TV (they are available now) and then you really could have bragging rights. You would then definitely be PS5 ready when it comes out.

SierraGuy2422d ago

@pantz...are you lost? My vanilla PS4 enabled HDR via software update long time ago. Talk about embracing it. "Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has."...again wtf? Your Pro there has native HDR support unlike X1X middleware HDR. Maybe do some searching next time.

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TheColbertinator2423d ago

Nothing inpressive about it to me.

Signed, an intellectual

Kavorklestein2423d ago

That dude's cock is huge! Said your mom, sister, cousin, ex girlfriend etc..

"Not impressed."
Signed,
The guy on the internet.

Tazzy2423d ago

Well I haven't been impressed by anything Xbox has shown for the Xbox One X the most powerful gaming console that has no games coming just updates to Xbox One games. For being called the most powerful console Halo 5 is having limitations and thats an Xbox One game am I supposed to be amazed by Cupheads doing 4k 60fps or Super Lucky Tales doing it because I'm not.

Signed Mr. Facts

Kavorklestein2419d ago (Edited 2419d ago )

Cool beans bro..that's all good man.
Everyone's got opinions lol
Everyone's got different tastes too.
It matters less to some and it feels vital to others, and every other way under the sun too lol

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken1d 18h ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 16h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit2d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export2d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2032d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies2d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 16h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit2d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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