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Michael Pachter on Switch Projections, PlayStation 5 Date, and Xbox One's Future

On this week's episode, Wedbush Securities research analyst and host of the Pachter Factor, Michael Pachter, joins host Josiah Renaudin to discuss the business of making video game projections. Pachter explains why the Nintendo Switch might need a price cut, when we can expect to see the PlayStation 5, why Microsoft will always be second in the console race, the future of virtual reality, and why you don't need to worry about 4K until 2020.

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smolinsk2675d ago

Smart man that Michael Pachter.

bloop2675d ago

I don't know who's giving you disagrees because you're right, he is a smart man. Anyone that can get paid well and make a good living out of just pulling random predictions out of his ass has to be a smart man.

IAmLoki2675d ago

Almost everything he says the opposite happens.

BG115792674d ago

He is smart. How the hell do you explain for him making money with his predictions ? The guy is mostly wrong, but people still pay him to get his point of view of things.
He's smart alright. ^^

indysurfn2674d ago

@IAMLoki perfect analysis. That is how Analyst get up liquidity for there clients. Tell the public the opposite of what his client wants to do. If the Client wants to sell a company he will pump it up ahead of time. If his clients need to buy a company they will put it down ahead of time.

OB1Biker2674d ago

Maybe a lot of people are not?

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corroios2675d ago

Lol, 2020? Patcher so far away from the reality...

Omnislashver362675d ago

With PS5 in 2018-2019 we'll fully exploit 4K for some games very soon. With 1800p for now, there's already an advantage for 4K in 2017. This guy is an idiot.

demonddel2675d ago

Sony just release the Pro it hasn't even been 6mons yet and yall already talking about the PS5

RosweeSon2675d ago

Your not getting a ps5 anytime soon. Scorpio doesn't come out until late 2017. Sony just realised their pro 3 months ago. They've barely just cleared 50 million the halfway mark for them they got another 2-3 years of PS4 minimum. Can't see a ps5 launching until late 2019 (Dec Japan Only) if at all... 2020 the likely time.

Omnislashver362675d ago (Edited 2675d ago )

@demonddel

Are you f-ing joking? We're at an article with Patcher talking about 4K arriving in 2020. I just bought and am content with a PS4-Pro, the only reason I brought up PS5 is because that's what the article is about. Try reading next time? Talk about shooting the messenger.

freshslicepizza2675d ago

Soon after scorpio comes out there will be more and more talk about the ps5. It's just natural for the community to not feel inferior as far as tech and performance. The issue Sony then faces is what is the value of the PS4 pro especially if the PS5 does not support PS4 games. Microsoft wants a continuation of your software to stay with you.

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ShadowKnight2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

@Moldybread

What makes you think the PS5 won't support PS4 games??? If the PS5 have an AMD GPU in it I'm sure it will support PS4 games and BC.

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FITgamer2675d ago

2020 Sounds reasonable. That's when I personally would expect a PS5 launch.

smashman982674d ago

I'd say late 2018 to mid 2019

freshslicepizza2674d ago

2020 at the very latest, probably 2019. i expect sometime next year in 2018 leaks will be out there and that is exactly what sony wants, to keep the focus away from scorpio if it does gain some traction for microsoft.

ShadowKnight2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

@Moldybread

It will keep the focus away from Scorpio regardless imo until Microsoft release a big new IP from their first party studios. I'm waiting for their new big franchise that's bigger than Halo.

morganfell2674d ago

It isn't just when it is out that matters but also when it is announced. They can announce it long before they have complete specs, a design, and exact launch date. Any of it. Announcing it will take the wind out of the competition fast. Particularly if they say it will be B/C with current PS4 titles. I do not think B/C is a big issue but it will push some consumers toward the PS4 if they know the PS5 supports those titles. It is more about marketing than reality.

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Psytrix2674d ago

We'll all be buying 8K sets by then. :-)

FlyingFoxy2674d ago (Edited 2674d ago )

When 4k is only just starting to be playable on PC with high end GPU's, if wanting 60fps in some games? Not likely, games will run like utter crap for a long time at 8k when 4k hasn't even fully stretched it's legs yet. Then 4k 144hz monitors are coming out this year, they would be much better.

For TV's 1080p is also fine, even Linus reviewed a 4k set recently and said there isn't a big difference. It's all a distance thing, sit a normal/average viewing distance from the TV and you'd not notice much of a difference. Really it's only for sitting very close up, ideal for a PC monitor only mostly. Even then it depends on the screen size.

LamerTamer2675d ago

Scorpio is much more powerful than the PS4 pro so we will see.

Sm00thNinja2675d ago

Says who? Have you seen official specs?

Eldyraen2675d ago

Every single piece of information has pointed in that direction. You can argue it's not a full generation above it (as most full generation leaps are 2-3x more powerful or even more) but it's still substantial.

If rumors are right it's basically about a generation above One/PS4 (base) and still about 1.5 beyond the pro's power. Are the rumors true? Who knows but just going by Teraflops alone (not really a perfect system) it's significant no matter how you want to look at it.

It doesn't mean it will make it a success (I still see PS4 outselling One) but the power difference should be real.

yeahright22675d ago

@eldy Teraflops are a horrible measure though. I mean the PS4 Pro can do 8 teraflops technically.

http://segmentnext.com/2016...

Add to that new rumors that the scorpio will also be doing quite a bit of upscaling... best we all wait for official specs before comparisons start.

RosweeSon2675d ago

Doubtful as other than a name and claim "it's gonna be all powerful" it's all up in the clouds still.

BizarroUltraman62674d ago

@yeahright,

If the Pro can do 8.4 tflops, then the Scorpio can do 12 tflops using the same half methods. So lets stop trying to move to post even further. The Scorpio no matter what you guys have to say is still gonna be more powerful than the Pro. Be it 1.5x or more...

JasonKCK2674d ago

Yup! some were released last year at E3. Deny all you want but Scorpio is significantly more powerful than the Pro. You would have to stick another PS4 in the Pro just to get close.

81BX2674d ago

@smooth
Do you think it wont be? Or around the same?

ChickenOfTheCaveMan2674d ago

@BizarroUltraman6 Who says the 6 teraflops number is not calculated by saying like 25% of the operation should be done in half floats? And to say that Scorpio is much more than the Pro is like saying the PS4 is much more powerful than X1, same ratio, I'll go with only "more powerful" if the specs are right.

yeahright22674d ago

@bizzaro, take off the fanboy hat for a second and you'll realize the point I was making wasn't that the Pro will be more powerful, it was that what we're using to measure scorpio, isn't the best tool. And we don't know if the scorpio will be able to use the same trick to double its teraflops. Why? Because we don't have the specs yet (hence why I said we should wait for the specs). On top of that, even if the scorpio can't double the teraflops, it won't mean that it's less powerful. Why? because teraflops is not a goo way measure power. It just gives you a ball park of what it's capable of. (hence why I said teraflops is a horrible way to measure.)

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Old_Boss_2675d ago

Scorpio Fall 2017 , PS5 Fall 2019 (probably) and PS5 probably will be more powerful and then a new more powerful Xbox in Fall 2020/21 and so on and on this cycle will never end.

ShadowKnight2675d ago (Edited 2675d ago )

But what console will have the most exclusives and first party studios? That will be key ntm who will have the most popular trademark in the world by 2019-2020? Microsoft or Sony?

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BizarroUltraman62674d ago

@ShadowKnight, popular trademark or brand? Playstation was established 4-5 yrs before Xbox came. And its popularity has only grown since, I think PS5 will be a sure hot seller when it comes around if this gen is any indication. And PS will still have #1 position. As for Microsoft, they have work to do to fix brand image with all the 180s they do, they lost some trust from gamers. Scorpio and some new games can fix that tho... I'll wait and see what happens.

Cmv382675d ago

Much more powerful? Based on what?

LamerTamer2674d ago

Everything said about it including leaked specs.

jrshankill2674d ago

...Every developer who has looked at it

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RosweeSon2675d ago

PS4 still got plenty of grunt under the hood you've seen god of war on ps2 Gran turismo 6 on PS3... PS4 has got some big big games still to come and they prob won't be fully flexing the console give it 2-3 years when it's nearing the end of its cycle they'll get some great looking games out for it still and Xbox wanna go next gen haha. Only because they've given up on this one already.

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Hardiman2675d ago

I agree with him on quite a few things in particular the 4K broadcasting as I have dish and there are only a few PPV channels that do 1080P most are 1080i or 720P. I love my 4K tv though and do look forward to more content. As it is right now the Pro is good enough and the games that are out or are coming while they may not be native 4K they look absolutely beautiful, Horizon, Nioh, Mass Effect, God of War, Uncharted 4, Days Gone and so on. The buffer between gens seems smart as well.

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 6h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken1d 19h ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 17h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export2d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2032d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 17h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit2d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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