Running against a general recent bullish tide, Macquarie has downgraded Nintendo (OTCPK:NTDOY) to Neutral, from its previous Outperform rating.
A long-in-the-works revamp to the company's consoles -- the NX, with reveal coming next week -- is liable to come at a price that will result in a "major" disappointment for volume sales, the firm says.
Speculation is putting the price of the new console between $300 and $350, in line with competing consoles, vs. the Wii's former discount to rival boxes from Sony and Microsoft.
Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."
Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?
All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.
And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.
Still whatever little direct competition they're offering against Sony ... that'd be gone, which is never good for consumers.
I know Sony will continue to apease the gamers but without any proper competition in same space, they might not work at the fullest efficiency.
(Taking into account, thats generally been agreed here, that Nintendo has long been not the direct competitor to either MS or Sony)
The " without any proper competition in same space, they (Sony) might not work at the fullest efficiency" narrative has been proven false for years. Let's stop pretending that, in terms of games, Xbox has been any competition to Playstation.
Sony had 0 competition for most of its playstation business, and they still succeeded, the only thing xbox introduced was paid online and dlc
Sony had little to no competition during the PS2 era and they have an iconic catalog.
I don't think Sony needs competition in the console space to still release great games. It would be the games that would be competing against each other.
I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.
If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)
No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.
"another Fable, another Gears, Perfect Dark"?
That's a lot of pretty great "anothers".
I could use a few of those "anothers" from Sony right now.
Yes it was a really great showcase that Xbox had. Multiplats and all. Overall it was really cool
anast,
"All these games are coming to PS5."
Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.
Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.
The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.
And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?
None of us really know how much they're going third party. They're still ACTING like they want to protect the platform - no mention of PS5 in their show, still marketing the console, still using the Xbox logo.
Yeah Phil acknowledged more is coming to PS5. But is that Indiana Jones? Perfect Dark? Gears?
If they keep those key properties in their stable it's not accurate to label them as simply 3rd party.
They may very well still be in the game after all...
We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.
By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.
Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.
I think you're mostly right. They've been failing on console and will most likely drop out.
But the concern a lot of us had was that they would use their $ to win monopolistically. They've already bought a huge number of big studios. Going multi-platform would alleviate that concern.
But they could still turn the screws, this game isn't over quite yet... They're sending mixed signals.
I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.
When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.
Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.
Ok, sorry, Doom is the exception.
My point is Xbox is still keeping exclusives for their bigger games. What’s been released are GaaS: Sea of Thieves, Grounded aka Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and then niche stuff like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Then you got Doom coming out, which is an outlier, I suppose.
It's not niche but it's not everything.
MS has got a HUGE cache of IP and studios now
It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.
The Nerd Stash: “With an exciting spate of six eclectic horror games, Blumhouse is set to knock it out the park with plenty of perspective-shifting terror.”
By far the best announcement in SGF! Although I am biased as horror genre is my favorite.
I am inclined to agree with the article.Lots of cinematic heavy of atmosphere looking games
Xbox writes: "Join us for a double feature on June 9, 10am PT - Xbox Games Showcase immediately followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct. The Xbox Games Showcase is your look at the new games from Xbox Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, as well as our partners from around the globe. Immediately following the Showcase, stay tuned for Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct for a special deep-dive into the beloved franchise."
I'll be honest, if they don't announce some major shit, this could be the nail in the coffin.
If I hear about major 1st party titles going multiplatform, it's over.
They need to build the brand trust right now. A lot of damage has been done.
We need bangers, AND some news about next Gen.
It's just started 4 games in and it's already been a fantastic show.
This is gonna be the best showcase in years
So far this is a great show, and mostly all GamePass games? Looks like the bangers are finally coming!
Investments finally paying off.
Now they need new hardware so they can start over
At this rate, best show of the last 2-4 years, been an absolute bangerrrrr so far!!!
Agreed. Way better then what Sony did and has done. Those multiplayer games really fked Sony over for a few years. Xbox showed off some good looking stuff. I'm most interested in state of decay 3.
@obcured:”BEST XBOX SHOWCASE EVER!!!!”
You need at least 10real people to agree in writing with you for anyone here believing you after saying the same thing year over year for the last 10+ years.
Now that I finished watching the show for me personally it was a ok as I don’t play FP games but that’s just me and I can recognize that for people that like FPG it’s a amazing show so ENJOY them.
Another thing and I hope for Microsoft sake they don’t do their next system digital only based on the S sales over the X, I hope they’ll learn the lesson of not making a lower power version just to try to undercut their competitor.
Metal gear 3 looked sweet.
Overall a lot of pretty games CONGRATS to all Xbox gamers this is what you deserve year over year 👍✨
Only thing I missed was Clockwork Revolution...
And what happened to Everwild? Liked the art style.
Very certain Perfect Dark will show up. fable showing up and 2025 release date.
Unpopular opinion here but INL think Final Fantasy 16 will release on Xbox. I dunno if it'll be on Gamepass but I think it's going to other platforms now.
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Time to see what amazing games Xbox Game Studios has been cooking for us, boys!!!
THE HYPE IS REAL!!!
I'm glad Microsoft had a great show. Hopefully this show potentially wakes up Sony and Nintendo. Competition is good for the industry. We don't need publishers and developers to get comfortable and get lazy on us. Keep them thinking and on their toes
Absolutely agree, many of the games shown are also coming to PS5 (despite MS hiding other platforms from the reveals) but the genuine exclusive all look great. Nintendo will obviously continue to carve it's own path and will be very busy with the Switch 2, but Sony and PlayStation really needs to pull it's socks up and start bringing out the big guns or people are going to start losing faith. Hopefully the rumours of a big PlayStation Experience show later this year are true.
The main knock on Sony is that there haven't been any major first party announcements. Xbox does a show with no major announcements.
This showcase was great. Not just a great Xbox showcase but in general the best one this year so far.
I'm tuned in now. I can't say I've ever been big in to Xbox, but I got myself a Series S when it launched. Can't say I've used it much but I'm intrigued to see what's in the pipeline.
wasn't there an article saying this three weeks ago, that also said it was "next week"?
I want to see this reveal already
Just show it already!
I'll never forgive them for making us all wait so long to see the NX!!!!!! Can't wait to see it let alone buy it.
It's coming just read every article that says it's coming!.