The Last of Us Remastered can run at native 4K on PS4 Pro

The Last of Us Remastered will include an option to run at native 4K on PS4 Pro, according to a new video report by Digital Foundry editor Richard Leadbetter.

[Neonridr]

I would probably rather play it at 60fps at a lower resolution. But a great option for those who want to take advantage of the better visuals.

[darthv72]

It was already a great looking PS3 game (that I still need to beat) and the remaster made it look even better. Honestly I want to see something that isnt already remastered get the 4K remaster treatment. Something like Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm. That lush environment would look simply smashing in 4K.

Or how about a remaster of the order???

[Neonridr]

The Order looked really good already.. could you imagine it at 4K?

Even something like Killzone, give it fresh life. Give it away on PS+ along with a free Pro upgrade patch.

[conanlifts]

Skyrim in 4k is pretty good.

[conanlifts]

The order was a short but fun game that looked great so a 4k version would work well.

@neon rider I agree killzone 4k, maybe even as a digital preorder bonus. I'm surprised there are no game bundles or preorder incentives.

[bouzebbal]

If there is one game I want to experience in 4K it will be WipEout HD.

[mikeslemonade]

Possible because TLoU is last Gen so it should be able to do 4K.

[Majister-Ludi]

Don't you think the order was boring enough that we all shouldn't be punished with a remaster. Graphics were not the issue with that "gem"

[gbsrnctaln]

Isnt the remaster already 1080/60?

[ziggurcat]

sort of. it's not a locked 60fps, though. it would just mean that the frame rate wouldn't dip on the Pro.

[Babadook7]

Indeed it is. Almost never dropping below in fact. I would think ND will have a 60 hz mode here too (edit: with extra bells and whistles)

[ninsigma]

It's already 1080/60.

[ziggurcat]

technically, yes, but there are frame rate dips on the current version that would be eliminated on the Pro.

[Ju]

It's unlocked up to 60fps or hard locked at 30fps (Player option). Unlocked runs anywhere between 40-60fps.

[ginsunuva]

If a game's textures and whatnot weren't made for 4K, then playing it at that higher res might look worse, actually.

[Paideia]

I would rather have in HDR. High frame rate always creates a soap opera effect, to me it's horrible unless you're playing competitively.

[2600Thunder]

This is how I feel about ALL console games. I want 60fps even if the graphics do not look as good, but bullshots sell games even if the it runs at 20fps. Sudden frame drops hinder my enjoyment due to motion sickness because my eyes tend to fixate on in-game assets (unlike movies where my eyes glaze over the entire screen). 30fps is fine as long as it is solid, but I very much prefer the responsiveness of 60fps. I loved the option in the remaster already and was hoping the rest of the PS4 library had this. Dreamcast spoiled me.

[NXSwitch]

Its too late to try & start defending the PS4Tro because its not even true 4k! Notice no where on the box or ad that Sony is saying true 4k because its false ad & it can't, come on say it with it, "deliver 4k". EA is calling it out saying "4K, not in the game"!

[Angeljuice]

Microsoft said the XBoxOne was capable of "4k video and gaming" before it launched.

There's no such thing as a "true 4k console" you fool. The console is powerful and capable of playing certain games in "full native 4k" (true 4k).

Scorpio won't play all games in 4k either. It will be exactly the same as the current situation with 1080/60p, possible, but the exception rather than the rule.

[NXSwitch]

Sorry "Angeljuice"...but I wasn't present when MS stated that so salt holds no taste.

The only fools here is what Sony sees in their fanbase for falling for this "MH dung" of a system.

You might wana change your name to Scorpiojuice because thats what MS is going to unleash on Sony to finish them off into next year & that fatality is going to look ugly!

[Angeljuice]

@Todd
I know that the Scorpio will be more powerful than the Pro you silly boy. I also know that it will be at least a year before Scorpio will launch.

I'm not buying a Pro anytime soon, but I am far more impressed with it than I thought I would be. If I had the cash to spare I could well be tempted.

If the Scorpio is that impressive, who knows, I may get one (it would have to be really good though as I don't generally buy Microsoft products).

But that's all "Pie in the Sky" as the Scorpio components don't even exist yet, so who knows? Maybe they will release in 14 months, maybe 18 months (if there are problems with yields etc).

So I could wait, or I could get a really powerful console for the next year or so and reassess the situation when the Scorpio is a real thing rather than a mythical unicorn over the horizon.

Maybe you should think about getting one yourself, they're more than 3x an XBOne in raw power, and punch well above their wait according to Digital Foundry (who were very impressed).

In a year or two when the Scorpio releases, you may still get a good price for the Pro, but the X1 won't be worth anything.

[NXSwitch]

I really want too but at the moment I only have both PS3 & PS2 & the rest Nin stuff. I ended up crossing paths with this stranger at GameStop that wanted to sell off his PS4 for $200 at the time but a friend at work told me I can't play PS3 disc games on it so I never went through with it.

I just got NG3 & UnC 1-3 that I bought off my friend at work, for now I'm just rocking the old systems.

[Babadook7]

"I would probably rather play it at 60fps at a lower resolution. But a great option for those who want to take advantage of the better visuals."

Great OPTION indeed.

[Neonridr]

options never hurt :)

[Zhipp]

Yeah, I just beat the game on PS3, and I'm still regretting not waiting until I could get my hands on a PS4. I'm a PC gamer, and have been playing exclusively at 50-60fps since 2012, excluding 3DS games, so going back to 30fps was a major problem for me. I thought I'd get used to it, but it remained a hindrance all the way through my playthrough.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

I'm guessing that'd be only for the campaign. I'm not sacrificing that MP 60 FPS ever. It is just too good

[2pacalypsenow]

So this confirms the Pro can do Native 4k gaming

[darthv72]

On a remastered PS3 class game of all things. Cant wait to see that recent reboot of Ratchet remade for 4K as well.

Or wouldnt you like to see something that hasnt been remastered or rebooted already done from the ground up to be 4K?

[Rimeskeem]

God of War please

[2pacalypsenow]

A new Killzone Game or resistance 4

[Roronoa0411]

The Ratchet reboot is a complete next gen game made from scratch... lets not put remaster and remake in the same tier. It wouldn't be able to run native 4K it would use the same technique as uncharted and horizon. On the other hand the last of us looks amazing for a last gen game and they did a good job remastering it so I would definitely want to try the 4k mode.

[akurtz]

doesnt matter. this remaster looks better than many current gen games. should be a sight to behold

[emerica2214]

Madden NFL 12, NBA 2k12, NHL 12, Bloodborne, are all I would like to see in 4K.

[ocelot07]

Elder Scrolls Online will also support native 4K for the pro. I know it's not the best graphical game. But it's certainly not a remaster.

[conanlifts]

My gtx 970 can play skyrim, dishonored etc in 4k and the highest settings. So the pro will definitely be able to. The issue is newer games have more assets and would need to be scaled back a bit.

[payikick]

The gpu is not the problem, the cpu is way too weak to handle the amount of instructions sent and received by the gpu to handle 4k.

[conanlifts]

@payikick thats a possibility, you might have a point there. I run an i 7 6700 and 16gb ddr4 with the 970 which probably helps with any 4k gaming i do.

[conanlifts]

@nitex. I disagree from personal experience. I have played numerous older games in 4k and it is great. Skyrim, alan wake, bioshock, dishonoured etc all run superbly. The 970 however does not do a great job in 4k with newer games like doom, but it did run doom at the highest settings at 1080/60 without a drop in frames for me. Also it can run doom at around 20fps in 4k which would be fine for some console gamers. My point was that older games would run well in native 4k on the pro, but newer games not so much.

Edit:- @armchairanalyst the doom fps was based on what i saw online. In truth i never tried doom at 4k myself as i played it on my monitor. All of the older games i play in 4k on my tv though. For doom i wanted 60fps so didn't really bother trying 4k myself.

[kraenk12]

Watch the newest Digital Foundry hands on video and be amazed.

[freshslicepizza]

of course the pro can but it depends on the game, so i dont understand why some people were adament that project scorpio which is over a year from now wouldn't?

[ecchiless]

I think ppl is talking more about "new" games and not old games, sure old games can be "remaster" to 4k, but talking about new games, games that are gonna use more effects, polygons, particles, etc... there's where the consoles are gonna struggle, sure maybe they can do 4k for those games, but not and the same quality/fps that a pc with a premium gpu/cpu.

[Angeljuice]

@Moldy

They are saying that Scorpio is a "4k console", which it will be (capable of 4k), but some interpret that as meaning all Scorpio games will run in native 4k (which they won't).

It is going to be very much like 1080p/60 on the current machines only switched with Scorpio having the advantage.

Devs will choose how best to use the resources, whether that be native 4k or more details and faster frame rates with lower resolutions and fancy new upscaling techniques.

Some people just refuse to believe that Scorpio won't be rendering every game in native 4k @60f/s.

[XanderZane]

Looks like Sony may be lying about the whole thing. Apparently the devs were asked by Sony to create some 4K visuals of their games. This video was interesting. Can a HDMI1.4 port be software patched to work as a HDMI 2.0 port to support HDR?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[IRetrouk]

You are trying i will give you that but we already knew it would be upscaled, who honestly said that 4.20tf could do a current gen game native 4k? Its already been explained what the custom stuff is and how it works lol, also im sure sony will explain the whole hdr thing in time, theres no way they could lie about it and get away with it, just wouldnt happen, again that fella mark who has his hands in the heart of the ps4 is smart, for all we know its him that made it possible.

[kraenk12]

Just watch the latest Digital Foundry hands on and shut up.

[rainslacker]

You don't need HDMI2.0 to support HDR. Original 4K spec with HDR only required HDMI1.4. HDMI2.0 is only required for the UHD/HDR standard which runs at a faster bitrate....mostly for audio reasons. But in theory, yes, the firmware could be updated assuming the PS4 can allow the extra bit of power to the port itself.

Taking the assumption of a random YouTuber who bases their information off of little knowledge of the spec isn't as appropriate as simply doing a google search where that information is well documented.

[XanderZane]

@rainslacker
So it's not UHD/HDR then? Ok.. good to know. Looks like only a view remasted titles will even support 4K native with a few tricks. Yes, we knew it wasn't true native 4K, but Sony is trying to make it seem like it is. Lots of damage control on here though. lol!! Don't shoot the messengers.

@ecchiless
He didn't destroy anybody. He explain it where as anyone can add HDR to any platform depending on what format of HDR is used. He didn't really explain how or why it would work on a HDMI1.4 port or not. Not going to matter much, because one the PR4 Pro is released it will be dissected and all the truths will be revealed.

[rainslacker]

The HDR used in UHD is HDR10(required for all UHD content) and in many cases Dolby Vision(not mandated in the UHD spec).

HDR is just a pixel color standard which replaces the 4bit color standard in use today. The TV's always had the impetus to support the standards, and the 4bit standard was a singular standard used for all forms of TV content.

There is no such thing as fake or true HDR. HDR is not UHDHDR. HDR is it's own standard(or standards), not connected directly to UHD in any way, beyond the mandate that UHD actually be able to provide at least HDR10.

When people say "not real HDR" they imply that it is neither HDR10 or DV, which are the two current formally accepted standards for TV's in use today. If Sony's HDR isn't of one of these two standards, the TV would not be able to display it, or would default to the 4bit pixel profile that is still included in the HDR spec.

Since people saying "fake HDR" don't actually understand how this stuff works, they see some information which seems counter to what the UHD spec calls for(HDMI2.0) and assume that because the system doesn't have that, that it is incapable of providing at least HDR10. The articles and fan boys acting like it's absolutely true without doing research are just wrong, and even when presented with this information in forums they refuse to look more into it, or just accept that others are more knowledgeable than them.

And to date, no one has been able to explain what exactly "not real HDR" actually is, and I'd doubt they'd be able to explain why if it's not "real HDR" that it wouldn't even work in the first place.

Native 4K has nothing to do with the UHD/HDR spec either. HDR is not dependant on 4K in the least, outside the only HDR displays being 4K+ TV's. That's just a rendering resolution. UHD 4K resolution is really no different than native 4K resolution, although the image quality of non-native 4K renders will not be on the same level as a native 4K image from a game or UHD.

As far as what Sony is doing, I can say they are trying to blur the line of what is and isn't 4K, and while not technically wrong due to the processes they're using, it's still not the same thing that people commonly talk about when they speak of 4K. However, I also feel all 4K device manufacturers, gaming or otherwise, have been doing this since the inception of 4K, and the same way MS has been doing with X1S where they clarify with fancy buzzwords or after the fact, and probably will with the Scorpio. I personally think all this confusion over what is what with the spec is directly related to just how confusing the spec is on the consumer marketing level, where not all 4K is equal, and things like HDR are being tied into the 4K spec as if it's somehow integral to it.

[ecchiless]

@xander

Oh God rainslacker destroy u and you're still trying to defend your pathetic comment, lol!

Edit: wrong word :D

[Maxor]

LOL on ancient last gen remastered. That counts now? Whats, next indies like Rocket Leauge? I guess that makes the Xbox One a 1080p console too right?

[TKCMuzzer]

Really? So called gamers like you need to sort yourself out, your not about gaming, your about 'mine is better than yours'.

[GTgamer]

Did you just call last of us acient that game looks and plays better than allot of games released for new gen so have several seats.

[Mr Lahey]

Yeah, still one of the best looking games out there on PS4/XONE so.. Ancient or not, It's gonna be awesome to play it in 4K! :)

[ginsunuva]

A Raspberry Pi can do native 4K Pong technically.

[kneon]

No, it can't, it only has HDMI 1.3.

[Sevir]

There are concessions that can be made, RotTR on Pro has 4K native.

The experience is a tad paired back as higher level geometry, particle effects and AA solutions aren't as intense, but they still combine with The Pro's Temporal post processing AA and Parallax Processing tools, to deliver a Native 4K experience...

So, to those thinking the Pro can't... you're seriously gonna eat a few crows come launch day.

[Erik7357]

Of course, not on most games. But last gen ports yes it could potentially run those at 4k.

Let's see it run Uncharted 4 at 4k 30fps

With you it's like "Okay we found like 1 or 2 games, it plays games at 4k guys!!!1" lol

[Ju]

Looking at how Horizon runs with checker board 4k, UC4 in 4K will look just fine - and definitively better than 1080p - which already looks impressive. But sure, go on ranting about a product you obviously have no interest in nor you have actually seen, and that you'd rather play 900p for the unforeseeable future. Sure, I'd sure would want that as the "better" alternative /s.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm not sure how many seriously needed confirmation of this resolution is depended on game and developer in the sad reality is most Gamers seriously do not understand it.

how long have I been saying this to you guys?

I've literally been saying this for years that A Game's resolution is dependent on the developer almost more than it actually even is the hardware, at the end of the day the hardware most times it's not really determining 1080P or 4K or anything like that as much as the actual build of the game, consider if somebody wanted to make some famicom or NES game in 4k Are you seriously telling me that's not possible?

So when people were saying native 4K was not possible on PlayStation 4 Pro I had to sit back and laugh extremely hard because what you're basically saying is you know every single last game that's going to released in existence for this system.

I said this at the very start of this generation if developers wanted 1080P 60 frames they would have created their damn games to run that in the first place who's stopping any of these companies from just using the same engine that they used the last generation to run 1080p 60 frames? It's not saying PlayStation 4 and Xbox One can't run 1080p 60 frames it's merely saying developers choose to not run that resolution and I'm starting to notice that most Gamers on here that don't understand this do not own gaming PC's they seriously believe this system essentially decides that and not the developer it's something I can seriously find funny and strange at the same time.

Did GTA San Andreas not released 1080p 60 frames on last generation consoles? Did GTA V released with those settings last generation? It's not saying Playstation 3 or 360 cannot run 1080p 60 frames it's saying that Rockstar is not going to downgrade their damn game to release at those numbers they do not want to make their game look like San Andreas to hit a damn number and you guys seriously need to educate yourselves on why those games are releasing at those settings it has more to do with the developer choosing to as opposed to weak hardware.

[Ju]

That's so wrong. I suspect the majority of people just don't understand how things work nor do they care and rather follow the hype of the day.

In fact, I had my doubts that a $400 machine can make any use of 4K in a way, that it wouldn't degrade current game fidelity in 1080p. But looking at Horizon and don't take my words for it - read up Leadbetter's opinion here http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... - the PS4Pro can render games at at least the same frame rate with higher fidelity than the PS4 can render 1080p titles - even if a checker board is used. This looks like is so efficient, that even when actually walking up at a 60" screen (which magnifies pixels) it is very hardly noticeable. The good thing which people ranting here is, that I won't see any of you polluting my 4K gaming pleasure, because it is obviously not good enough for you. Well, then, get stuck with sub 60fps and sub 1080p resolution as long as you like - I will gladly skip Scorpio. For me, surprisingly, the Pro convinced me that it is actually worth playing current gen games in 4K - I feared those needed to get toned down or the upscaler would just trash the picture. However, neither is true. In the worst case you get a better experience at 60fps for 1080p titles. That alone and the 1TB drive is worth getting it.

[DigitalRaptor]

Yep!!!!!

All the Xbox fanboys lied about that, just like they lied about HDR on the slim, and just about everything else.

[StormLegend]

Hopefully a lot of other new remasters run at Native 4K

[WheatBread]

Preordered.

[Ju]

I wonder if I should, too. I need one now. Waiting two more months is tough, but probably worth it. But what if it actually sells out? It is a new console after all.... damn...I just did.

[Auron]

Definitely looking forward to trying it out.

[InTheZoneAC]

1080p 60fps>>>4k 30fps

when I compared gameplay of the ps3 tlou to the ps4 tlou I couldn't believe how much better the game felt and transitioned between movements.

[Good-Smurf]

Game already ran at 1080p 60 fps,but really I wish more developer take 1080p 60 fps or 1080p 30 fps on most of the games and try crank all the graphics to 11.

[DrJones]

This is what Sony have to do in order to make this console successful. Most People have 1080p TV's and won't reap the benefits of higher resolutions. At least have two modes, one for 4K-ish, and one for 1080p With higher graphical settings.

[prof573v3]

Totally agree. Better visual fidelity at 1080p as was expected on the ps4.

[InTheZoneAC]

ps3 tlou ran at 30fps, not 60fps

And when playing the ps4 version you could notice how much better it felt. This is why I'm hoping that ps4p games run at 1080p, up from whatever lesser res before, and also at 60fps because it would have the nearly the same impact when going from ps3 to ps4 again.

[StormLegend]

You can choose to play with 1080p 60fps on this game.

[InTheZoneAC]

are you not understanding

THE PS3 VERSION RAN AT 30FPS

THE PS4 VERSION RAN AT 60FPS WITH THE OPTION TO RUN AT 30 LOCKED

I am saying, again for the 3rd time, that the 60fps gameplay is so much better than 30fps gameplay. I am saying it would be a step backwards to run at 4k 30fps instead of 1080p 60fps for games currently not running at 1080p 60fps.

Is that clear?

[ziggurcat]

@inthezone:

"ps3 tlou ran at 30fps, not 60fps"

i think people are referring to the remaster, not the original version. even then, the original version wasn't a locked 30fps. the remaster was, though, if you chose to play with that setting.

[kowan]

The Ps4 version had the option to choose from 30 and 60 so TLOU on the pro should also have the option to choose 4k and 1080p/60fps. Or if you don't have a 4ktv then the game will naturally play at 1080/60fps with improved visuals.

[senorfartcushion]

Only 1000 more to go

I mean...old game sooooooo not so shocking.

[BossBattle]

That's good to know. But I've played TLOU to death already. Remasters of a remaster get redundant.

[TKCMuzzer]

Its not a remaster of a remaster. Its the same remaster with a patch to play in 4K. You pay no more money, you have no more discs to buy. It's just bumped to 4k. Why is this is so difficult for people to understand?

[PlayableGamez-]

It's getting a 4k patch not another remastere..

[Ju]

Well, I hadn't finished it yet. Will be fun to continue after the patch. - I played the PS3 version, though.

[Redx165]

I would rather the game look like Uncharted 4 at 60 FPS than 4k...

[DigitalRaptor]

We would be lucky if developers provide the options for that.

Nixxes is doing an exemplary job at giving us options on the PS4 Pro version of Rise of the Tomb Raider.

[Redx165]

True that but how many developers are going to do that?

That's why the PS4 Pro isn't so appearing to me. Sony isn't forcing developers to do it and most won't.

[SpeakTruthAlways]

Fantastic job ND, can't wait to see how GOTG of last gen looks in 4k.

[EpicSandwich]

GOTPS3G

[madmonkey01]

got of the of the ps3, pretty much means it was the game of last gen.

[SpeakTruthAlways]

Nope, my opinion still stands but thanks for your useless input.

[Majister-Ludi]

Good correction and I still wouldn't agree as I like several other ps exclusives more.

[andyo13]

Has anyone thought that the PS4 Pro is basically serving the purpose of all these HD remasters for the next generation.

[VoodooProject]

Where are you guys getting 4k native? They clearly not true 4k native. Temporal 4k.... aka upscaled.

[StormLegend]

No Naughty Dog said it will run Native 4K not upscaled.

[cbuc1125]

Why is this so hard to understand? It is a 4k machine that runs most games upscaled from 1800p or 1440p. Some will run at native 4k. Got it? Yes it does native 4k as well as upscaled. Got it? Great!

[Ju]

I think it's a denial effect. It's OK. after denial comes acceptance. Eventually.

[TKCMuzzer]

Oh dear, commenting without researching first, bad move.

[CorndogBurglar]

How did you know what this article was about without even reading the headline, much less the article?

[XanderZane]

It's not true native. They are using other software tech and tricks to pull off the 4K. It's not true hardcore native 4K with no assistance. Sony and EuroGamer won't mention anything about that. I want to see Horizon: Zero Dawn running in native 4K. It wasn't. They can probably get the older games to run in 1440 smoothly on this system now.

[DigitalRaptor]

Stop lying. Just stop.

Digital Foundry has access to the game and knows more than a simple forum poster with a questionable comment history. The Last of Us Remastered will output a native 4K image, just like Elder Scrolls Online and just like SMITE. It's technologically possible on certain titles, and even with this in mind, you still want to lie about it.

Disgusting.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Maybe you should actually read
.

[PFFT]

Only older titles and less demanding games will run Native 4K everything else will be upscaled.

[hahaha]

It looks good on PS4 Pro and I agree it is a great game, but seriously how many times does Sony want us to play it? From PS3, PS4 remastered and now on PS4 Pro. I am bored already. It may be featured on PS5.

[MasterCornholio]

"From PS3, PS4 remastered and now on PS4 Pro."

Why are you saying that they shouldn't patch an already released game?

It's like your against the improvement of games that people already own.

Also what's wrong with having options?

[TKCMuzzer]

It's a free patch, it costs you nothing. So people with the game and a 4K tv can play it in more detail. It's a choice, don't want to play it again, then just don't, not worth moaning about.

[OB1Biker]

Its a classic. Hopefully it will be available for future generations too. Simple as that.

[pody]

There's still a lot of people playing the MP.

[Trekster_Gamer]

How about a TRUE REMASTER FOR THIS GAME!

[Maxor]

That would actually require work. Remastered isn't about work or love of the material. It's about a cash grab before the new hotness hit the market.

[DrJones]

lol

[G20WLY]

Except there's no cash coming from consumers/gamers for this, as it's free for anyone that already owns the game. Nice trolling though. Actually no, it was pathetic, as usual. lol

[marioJP87]

Still though, the game is originally 60 FPS on PS4. To see it degrade to 30 FPS in order to upgrade its resolution ...

[peewee11016]

It was 30fps on PS3 and played amazing stop trying to downplay the game. Many single player games play at 30fps

[marioJP87]

Im not downplaying nothing, coach. It's not my fault the pro isnt strong enough to play a PS3 game in 60 fps at 4K. Many games play great at 30 FPS, but its still losing frames. Thats a fact.

[madmonkey01]

outside of n4g, 30fps is fine.

[TKCMuzzer]

Not many complained about 30FPS on the original PS3. As I said there are to many so called 'gamers' around who quite frankly are not about the games.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Did you actually read the article? Did you actually even research anything regarding what this is? Did you actually even play The Last of Us remastered on PlayStation 4? The game gives you an option to add 60 frames or 30 frames the update for free mind you is merely giving you the option to run it in 4k at 30 frames you could switch off if you feel like it that choice is completely up to you.

[peewee11016]

yeah... Let alone its the masters at naught dog. I remeber playing Uncharted 1 on ps3 not that long ago before i got a ps4 and i was like my god it looks amazing

[GameHead85]

This I can't wait for.

[EpicSandwich]

This is great news for those who haven't played it yet.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Remaster Killzone 2 and I won't see daylight for the following calendar year.

[TKCMuzzer]

I just want a remastered 60 FPS Killzone 2 multiplayer with all the maps. Great multiplayer, some of the best i've played. It weeded out COD fans because it wasn't twitchy and weeded out run and gunners, some of the warzone games went of for ages and were great fun.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Killzone 2 & 3 remastered Collection would be pretty Beast, I would like to see bluepoint games do that port.

I really really really like Killzone 2 I was quite surprised at just how good it was. I personally really really liked the first Killzone and regards to it's a very interesting story and setting but never thought that Killzone 2 would be so much more better I would love to see that game running on PlayStation 4 as a remaster.

[Majister-Ludi]

Really interesting story, how so. I hate killzone think it's the worst shooter of last gen and still holding that title. Damn it looks good but the ai is amazingly stupid the story is horrific, and the feel of the shooting and movement is awful. I truly hope that ip does because they seem to have actually made something fun in horizon. That's what killzone is missing the most, fun it's just straight up not fun.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I cannot explain how interesting the story is to somebody that does not find it interesting themselves because what I'm talking about is something of subjective nature not objective.

you're saying that it's missing "fun" again you're stating that it's missing something that is all subjective not objective, that is not a matter of fact that is merely your opinion, Millions clearly enjoyed the game to purchase it and its sequels.

Don't care. Grow up and stop demanding people convince you to like something. play what you play and like what you like, as to why you believe that somebody needed to form some sort of committee to get you on board to like in Killzone is beyond me, did you really think that games are fun for a matter of fact and not based on a subjective idea? Smh.

So just to entertain your logic what would your solution be for me? To have me play something you like versus something I like? Lol

[InTheZoneAC]

The MP maps in that game were mostly amazing. Many were large and unique, KZ3 went back to smaller maps, but had some decent sized ones.

[2cents]

Sweet.

[TheOptimist]

Not surprising, considering that the remaster uses the same textures and is just of higher resolution on the PS4. I wouldn't be surprised if it'll God of War 3 Remastered on 4K

[Lonnie18]

Wow this confirms native 4k is possible...not too many X1fanboy's talking now lol!

[G20WLY]

The can't talk with a mouthful of crow lol

Other games have been confirmed too, such as Elder Scroll Online and Smite.

[Majister-Ludi]

And yet you still bring them up showing you are as bad as them congrats.

[FreddyFazbear]

And xbox fans saying PS4 pro cant do native 4k. They really never run out of downplaying do they. Unlike PC only gamers they are not this vocal. And i have not seen a sony article LATELY trash talking xbox. Now you know who is the most dick of all fans.

[DigitalRaptor]

They are disgusting liars and have been for years and years.

It comes with the territory of being hardcore supporters of that company.

[Xavy]

Xbox fans are the worst fans in the gaming community, they lie, deceive, spread hate all over the place. N4G has become a dump because of them.

[Majister-Ludi]

You are kidding right? I'm gonna assume you are a troll or stupid because hop in any xbox article and you will find far far far more ps trolls, than you would find xbox trolls on a ps article grow the fuck up and open your eyes. Literally you and the other two who commented must be blind if you think xbox trolls are the issue with this site especially with that cancer digital raptor just above me. I find it funny how on an article with nothing to do with xbox you ps fanboys still bring up xbox trolls even when they aren't around. Think about that before you go troll another xbox article. Why can't you people just enjoy games instead of trying to take others joy away. It's truly pathetic but I know it's all you have so enjoy.

[FreddyFazbear]

Im not blind and this is a sony article is it not?? Please dont tell me i need to show you proof of xbox trolls. But i agree there are trolls on both sides. I comment only on annoying articles against ps and the people who comments nonsense. Its not pathetic, people who says lies are pathetic like hardcore xbox fans. They tell their opinions as truths and eill not even admit ps4 is powerful. Thats also called delusion. But yeah your the peace keeper right? My statement is only DIRECTED towards xbox fans that spread nonsense. I dont generalize all xbox fans. If your bot one of those fans then you should not be affetcted by my comment. Unless you got hit by what i said.

[Tzuno]

No it's not, it will be up-scaled to 4k. Ps4 Pro does not do 4k native it up scales, it has been confirmed since the announcement. TLOU will have 4k pixel density and 4k up-scaled resolution.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Seriously buddy you would sound much more smart if you actually read the damn article and actually looked up what you are talking about, that's only being done for specific games.

why wouldn't The Last of Us a 2013 game not be able to run 4k on a 4 teraflops machine? That's like saying on a 970 GTX can not run Assassin's Creed Brotherhood in 4k lol

The stupidity that comes from this board knows no bounds. To say the machine could not run 4K is to say you know every single last game in existence that's ever going to release for the PlayStation 4 when did you become this magician? So what if I released pong on PlayStation 4 are you telling me pong can't run 4k on Pro?

I'm exaggerating the example to prove a point it's a method known as unfreezing where people form an opinion based on something and in order to unfreeze them from this line of thinking you have to exaggerate your point to further show them just how insane their thinking is.

Are you telling me Super Mario Brothers 3 put on PlayStation 4 Pro can't run 4K? Are you telling me that Metal Gear Solid 1 if ported to PlayStation 4 can't run 4k on Pro?

Do you now understand how strange your comment is in regards to saying a system could not do a resolution when you don't actually even know every single last game that will ever released for it?

Consider this is exactly what I told Gamers at the start of this generation that kept complaining about the lack of 1080p 60 frames it has nothing to do with that the platforms cannot do that it has everything to do with the developers do not want to downgrade their games to Simply do that , if you wanted this number this badly wouldn't it just makes sense to keep using last Generation assets to achieve that?

So consider you're forming a very absolute statement on something that you cannot possibly know because you are not a developer and you do not know every last game in existence that's going to release.

[Tzuno]

Relax :) Ps4 pro up-scalles resolution, yeah right developers will develop games on ps4 pro at 4k straight resolution how many people own a 4k display???, :)))) look at this and then rethink again https://www.youtube.com/wat... 4k ultra on gtx 1070 23 fps and you dream of 4k on ps4 pro :))) i talk about real future games not 2d's or old graphical engines.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Tzuno- "yeah right" is basically saying you bet or you don't believe etc. Sorry but you are guessing and hoping, you don't know the future bud. Again, read...The Last Of Us is running on NATIVE 4K on PS4 Pro. Yes its a dated game, but thats sorta the point. Its showing that the PS4 Pro can do native 4K as its up to developers. If a developer wants to make a game last gen looking merely to run 4K, whos to say they can't? The fact that you are even ignoring that the team and digital foundry have confirmed its running in 4k native sorta speaks volumes to your ignorance. "i talk about real future games" OH so you know that in the future a developer won't make a game that looks like The Last Of Us in 2013 in 4k on the PS4 Pro? LMFAO! Sorry but you don't know what your talking about. You are comparing and crying over hardware, over something that is actually developer dependent.

The Last Of Us isn't The Witcher 3 on Ultra. Again, resolution is game dependent first bud. Your comment is uneducated, ignorant and just plain immature. "Ps4 Pro does not do 4k native" then when confirmed to be wrong "how many people own a 4k display" not relevant bud.. then " i talk about real future games" lol, your comment states "Ps4 Pro does not do 4k native"....thats it. It doesn't state anything other then it won't do something that for a fact it can do..DEPENDING ON THE GAME!

That is like saying PS3 can't do 1080p 60fps....yet Wipeout HD exist. Maybe be more clear bud, because its very clear that not all games will be 4K native, no one can actually confirm that for any platform as that is developer dependent, regardless of hardware.

Read. Educate yourself.

[Tzuno]

While the custom, eight-core Jaguar processor doesn’t quite have a clear parallel on the PC side of things, we’d expect performance–with perfect CPU scaling–to roughly double the Athlon 5370, which is a quad-core Jaguar part that operates at 2.2 GHz. In absolute terms, that’s a bit more CPU power than a Haswell i3. But, considering that current game engines continue to favour high IPC over multiple cores, the PS4 Pro’s CPU performance would more likely be in the vicinity of the FX-6300, which substantially bottlenecks PC games at framerates higher than 30 FPS.

While it’s debatable as to just how much low-level console optimizations can tilt the scales, CPU bottlenecking in PS4 titles offers ample evidence that the Jaguar-based processor seen here can and will hold back a relatively powerful GPU. With even Core i5’s suffering from stark CPU-bound framerate scaling in games like Fallout 4, we’d need something in the vicinity of a 100-150 percent increase in CPU power for bottlenecking to not be an issue. Considering power and thermal budgets, the only way this can be achieved is by deploying a newer, higher IPC architecture like Zen. As such, Sony’s decision to stick with Jaguar has a significant impact on the PlayStation 4 Pro’s 4K-readiness. :))))

[Ju]

It has what? "it will have 4k pixel density and 4k up-scaled resolution". Did you just created a new science here?

[opinionated]

So it does play 4K movies. That's cool.

[GTgamer]

Yay but I just hope they make bloodbourne 60 fps

[PlayableGamez-]

But is it 60fps?

[DigitalRaptor]

Not in native 4K mode, but they will likely have additional settings like they did originally.

Settings to change it to output at 1080p/60fps and then upscale to 4K.

[NoFanboyJustLovGames]

hmmm how can a game run native 4k on a machine that cant read 4k disc..... HMMMMM

[_-EDMIX-_]

Read.

[DigitalRaptor]

OH MY GOD... really?

[Xavy]

HAHA Xbox fans must be the dummy's of the whole gaming community

[PFFT]

And the Sony fanboys are the most gullible in the whole gaming community.

[Ju]

The stupidity is strong with this one... or incompetence in sarcasm.

[S2Killinit]

Wow no way. Im sold.

[fanboysmackdown]

My all time favorite Sony title.......looked good on the PS4 and some day I'll check it out in 4K.

[jc12]

I would absolutely play this game again in 4K...This is a borderline wet dream.

[sampson3121]

so it does 4k natively

[LastCenturyRob]

what about 1440p 60fps?

[leoms]

But... I thought fanboys were saying PS4Pro can't run native 4K. Does that mean they were talking nonsense?

[GrmpyolGamer]

Awesome!!! Running a 5 year old game at 4K. POWWWWWWWER!!!

[payikick]

...

[Drithe]

Wow. Sony is scamming people so badly it is pathetic. To make matters worse they send their SONY GO BOTS ( half from Naughty Dog) on sites like this to say, "OMG this is a deal. Buy day one!" or "I will buy this right now at even 100 dollars because I cant get enough of this game at 60(which is a fantastic price). Oh yeah!"

Pathetic.

End of line.

[sampson3121]

i think i see a tear :(

[Rhezin]

ermagerd

[ocelot07]

I think am definitely going to play the single player again in 4K. Which brings me to this question. There are reports that Sony won't allow any advantage in frame rate between the pro and the original PS4. So if I was to play this in 4K how would the MP work? Would I even be able to play it online in 4K 30FPS? Would it tell me to change the settings?

[sampson3121]

whatever the frame rate is for the OG ps4 will be same for Pro. ps4 has many MP games running 60 frams. UC4 MP being one of them.

[PSG4MER]

Yes, PS4 games will look awesome in 4K.

[P1mpzRuS]

"The Last of Us Remastered can run native at 4k" oh jeez really?? You idiots is a "remastered" game thats being UPSCALED to 4K Native. How does that even make sense?? Upscale and native are not the same fucking thing!!!

Hahaha my GTX1080 set up can handle all of my games at 4K Native (if they were programmed to do so) that being said, there's a BIG fucking difference between 4K upscaling and running a game 4K natively, that means you will have to be able to run the game at 3840x2160 @ 30fps/60fps.

You will have to literally redesign the game in order to make a native picture is not a matter of a fucking patch update, otherwise every company game out there would just do that and not spend hours making texture, animations, motion, etc for native 4K. So this pure bullshit!!!!

Plus is going to take more than 8 outdated bottlenecked jaguar cores and 4.2teraflops to do native 4K which is why I'm even skeptical about the Scorpio. Shit my card is handeling 8.9 teraflops as it is right now what makes you think that this consoles are bringing true 4K. What a fucking joke!!!!

[Ju]

Oh, look, another graphics programmer wizard! /s

[P1mpzRuS]

Oh, look, another console bandwagon praying for native 4K on a console that's obsolete and is not even out yet!!! Good look playing Horizon Event Dawn @ 4K...... Oh yeah you're 3 years late to the 4K party btw

[Ju]

I guess I hurt your feelings. Sorry about that /s

[ecchiless]

Man you're the fucking joke, read the article then come back and read your comment, so you can see how fking stupid you are.

[P1mpzRuS]

I'm... I guess but don't lie to yourself thinking that a game like this is going to be able to run "native" that is the fucking keyword retard. There's no such thing as a upscale native picture.

If you were upscale a image/movie from 480p to 1080i or 720p does not mean the image will have same quality as an uncompressed HD 1080p image and make the assumption that the image will be at the same quality of a Blu-Ray movie. Same applies to HD > 4K.

What makes you think a GPU that's currently on the PS4 Pro compared to a RX480 is able to due anything, yes anything at native 4K? Haha you Sony Fanboys are delusional, btw that's the same GPU that struggles with 4K. Please do not argue with a person that's currently playing games at 4K, yes "Native" which requires more 4.2tfpls you guys are a joke.