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Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K Screenshot Comparison: Native Maxed PC vs PS4Pro

After the PS4 Pro announcement, it's time to compare Rise of the Tomb Raider 4K running on a native PC with maxed settings and on the new console.

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KaiPow2814d ago

It's still quite impressive running on a machine that costs less than just a solid GPU.

Alexious2814d ago

Absolutely. There are differences, but they're fairly minor and probably hard to notice during gameplay.

Though a powerful enough PC could run it at 60FPS or more, while PS4 Pro will be limited at 30.

Eonjay2814d ago

Yeah it looks fantastic but lets be serious about the cost of a 'powerful enough PC'. Its weird because you would hear about PC gamers playing in 4k but I don't think anyone really was able to understand the cost of achieving this res at 60 FPS. So then this machine, the Pro, even upscaling with this much fidelity at 4k for $399 is unbelievable.

starrman19852814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

I'd say they are actually quite noticeable, but as KaiPow said - you're spending a LOT more to get a PC up to those visuals.

For the disagrees - I get that they both look great, but look at the blood textures on her arm, they look much flatter on the PS4 Pro. The textures on the artefact type thing on the right, where the light reflects off, you can see a lot more of the texture. The dynamic range of the lighting down her arm (that might be different monitor settings though) also the colours look a lot richer, but again that could be monitor settings. I just think the differences are definitely noticeable but I'm not trying to discredit the Pro. If someone said to me you can get game quality like the left image for £350 and quality like the right for £1200 - I'd take the left.

2pacalypsenow2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

To run this game at a solid 60fps in 4k Maxed out you would need 2 1080 SLI that's over $1200 just in video cards. I think the majority of gamers will be fine with 30fps for $399

MadLad2814d ago

@2pacalypsenow

It really depends on where your standards lie.
I honestly can't stand gaming at 30fps.

I know people claim it's just fine and that it's perfectly playable ...
But that's just it ... it's just "playable".

Lowest common denominator doesn't work for me anymore.

Erik73572814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

You can't even truly see the differences though how can you say that?4k native will blow you away if your were seeing it in action on pc for a game like this. Everything is unbelievably sharp and you can see things from like a mile away it's crazy.

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Tech52813d ago

GTX 1060 Ultra settings (including Textures) 1440p uncapped performance.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

$259.99 GPU

Unspoken2813d ago

30 fps is last gen. Actually it was the gen before that. We used to have 60 fps games when CRT and tube television was the norm. Then 3D hit main stream and we accepted the lowest minimum standard to be playable.

We need to push hardware engineers and devs to hit the 60 fps sweet spot. We still have a ways to go before we see fluid gameplay at 120hz and 144hz but if we keep accepting the cinematic experience of the weaker hardware with no way to adjust it to achieve higher frame rates, then it will continue to look like a slide show that is just barely playable.

At $399, this is the sweet spot for midrange all in one compromise though I'd rather spend a couple extra hundred on an upgradable machine and play at any resolution and settings I choose. Paying 800 to 1K+ isn't reasonable but the modular design of the PC is what allows it to be attractive because you can spread the cost out as well as the ownership.

You can now attain ridiculously low power number's in small form factor PCs, and that trickles down to consoles, but at what cost. As consumers, let's get that 60 fps box checked so we can push other boundries.

Death2813d ago

It's ironic to see some people that still refuse to believe games upscaled from 900p to 1080p count, yet they absolutely believe upscaling from 1080p to 4K is a viable option.

If you are a PC gamer looking to game in native 4K, the GTX1070 is a great card for the cost of a PS4 Pro. I don't see many PC gamers jumping to a console for the same price as a midline GPU today. Keep in mind new GPU's released annually and the performance increase is huge. I'm not sure the theoretical PC gamers on a console budget exist. PC gaming is a completely different animal.

XanderZane2813d ago

@bruce755
Yes, but this is upscaled 4K running at 30fs. On PC it would be native 4K running at 30 or 60fps. XBox One upscaled all their games that weren't 1080P to 1080P and they looked beautiful as well. Yet fanboys screamed they weren't native 1080P and didn't look as good. The same could be said for this game as well. It won't look or run as good as a native 4K version. This is the cheap way of doing 4K on game consoles, even though it works. I just find it funny that everyone is now "accepting upscaling resolution" now that it's on the PS4. No one was accepting it on the XB1 however. So many hypocrites.

Yes, the game still looks great, but it's been said many times, before it was on the PS4. Without any upscaling.

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MadLad2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

There are GPU's in the 200 - 250 range that hugely outperform today's consoles.
Yes, that's only one part. And yes, to build a modern gaming PC is more expensive than to simply purchase a console; at least when you're talking purely the cost of the hardware itself.
But let's be real here. We are long past the days where you need a $400+ GPU to be handling high performance gaming.

Scatpants2813d ago

$250 cards would struggle at 4k

Bladesfist2813d ago

@Scatpants So will the PS4 Pro and the Scorpio and High End GPUs. Everything struggles at 4k.

MadLad2812d ago

@Scatpants

I said literally nothing about 4K. I said that cards between 200 - $250 seriously outperform consoles in today's market. Why should we bring 4K into a comparison of consoles that sometimes don't even hit 1080p?

Erik73572814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

To me its not impressive. To me it's just "you get what you pay for".

Even then this image does not do justice with just how amazing native 4k looks.

Hoffmann2814d ago

You have folders on a pc tho :P

mark3214uk2813d ago

question is, is that 1080p up scaled to 2160p or 1440p up scaled to 2160p?

either way that rendering algorithm there using is amazing to make it look pretty much the same as native 4k

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kaizokuspy2813d ago

All I see in native is slightly better blood, rocks in the back look a tad sharper, lighting is slightly more luminescent, and obviously more foliage. Coming from someone who knows nothing about 4k, or pc gaming, ps4 pro still looks pretty amazing to me. I can't denied native looks better, but still, I'm impressed considering just 2 years ago I was still only using an x360 before getting a ps4

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Imp0ssibl32814d ago

PS4 Pro is a beast. Yes, Scorpio will be more powerful...Of course, it launches a year later.
I want to play games on my 4K HDR TV now.

SweatyFlorida2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

You're exactly who they are targeting. It's weird people saying "what's the point of this console", it's quite literally a (relatively) cheap option that can run games better and make them look good in 4k/hdr displays, all while still providing a sizeable benefit for 1080p owners with enhanced graphics/fps. All before the holidays of THIS YEAR.

People expecting the console to render all games natively at 4k, yet still cost $399, are delusional. But as we've already seen, it will have some games that can do natively, maybe not the biggest and newest blockbusters, but I can expect some nice looking indies or smaller titles (among a few outliers like remasters) being native 4k for crisp graphics and color.

respekanize912814d ago

paddling in the same boat with you my friend...OG PS4 off to the bedroom you go.

boodi2813d ago

@impossible
'nuf said

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Aurenar2814d ago

Crystal Dynamics works very well. But I will play in my PS4 "standard". I'm not a Pro :p

ftwrthtx2814d ago

But how will next weeks update with HDR support for the current PS4's improve the graphics? If Sony made it look too good, they may have shot themselves in the foot.

starrman19852814d ago

HDR doesn't really improve the graphics as such, it's more the colours. You get a much higher dynamic range, so blacks will be blacker, things like sun rises etc will look beautiful because you'll see things how your eyes might rather than a lens.

Alexious2813d ago

It will only work for those who have an HDR display, anyway.

Tobsesan2814d ago

It won't even work on the standard PS4 how its supposed to. For the HDR 10 you need HDMI 2.0 to get its full potential.

Christopher2814d ago

The HDR patch will probably only affect 1% of PS4 owners now. And, then, not that much. It's like getting that free air freshener when you go to get your car washed. It's nice, but you were there to get a car washed primarily and that air freshener will be dead in a few days.

Roronoa04112813d ago

the downplaying is amazing…I guess its pointless to get an XB1S right now because 4K and HDR will only effect the 1%… got it.

Christopher2813d ago

@roronoa0411: If that's the only reason, yes. Mass majority of people don't have 4k TVs/monitors, let alone HDR capable ones. The selling point of this by both companies is ahead of itself.

Xb1ps42813d ago (Edited 2813d ago )

The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them...

This whole mentality of "I'm not ready" so everyone needs to wait needs to stop.. why shouldn't I be able to game in 4k because you don't have a 4k tv!?!?

And I'll take that free air freshener... thank you very much...

You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....

Christopher2813d ago (Edited 2813d ago )

***The mass don't own lamberginis either so I guess they should just stop making them... ***

And how many Lambergini commercials do you see compared to the marketing of HDR? The point here isn't if it should be there, the point is if it should be a key marketing point when it doesn't affect that many people.

***You see it as sony and ms as being ahead of itself and I see it as you're behind screaming and yelling wait for me, I'm not ready....***

No, I see it as them marketing something to people who don't have it yet and likely won't for about 5 year instead of other features that they do have and can be utilized now.

Xb1ps42812d ago

No the point here is the technology is moving forward... And it shouldn't stop because it's only going to serve 1% of the ppl at the moment.. And the point of marketing is to try and Convince ppl to move on to new technolog, now if you can afford it or not is a whole different story and my point is the ppl that can afford it should not be held back.

So you are basically saying... Screw us that have 4K tv with hdr because you won't get one for another 5 yrs, kind of selfish don't you think? Especially when you consider the fact that 4K tv is getting more affordable in a rapid pace much quicker than when hd was introduced...

And by the way HDR iS not the oonly selling point. if what you have is a 1080p tv you will see benefits too and if it's not enough of a benefit for you then wait those 5 yrs I'm sure we will at least hear something about a ps5 by the..

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StormLegend2814d ago (Edited 2814d ago )

The rock wall looks more detailed on the PS4 Pro. Lara has more blood on the PC version.

starrman19852814d ago

If you mean the one in the distance, that's just the depth of field setting, it's probably toned down for the Pro - which to be honest I don't know why as it it uses up very little resources!

Maxor2813d ago

Because it's the PC that image will have more blood/details regardless of what resolution it is. There will be more blood even it's in 1080p or even 900p. The 4K comparison here is pointless. The PC uses superior lighting and shaders to achieve a better image quality that the PS4 simply do not have the horse power to push.

The point this shit site was trying to make is the comparison between upscaled and native 4K. A task they failed miserably at.

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Cronela's Mansion Gets Physical Game Boy & SNES Cartridges

The upcoming Cronela's Mansion will launch on Switch, NES, Game Boy and SNES, with the latter now set to receive physical cartridges.

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The Best PS1 Games That Still Stand the Test of Time

The Nerd Stash: "Some of the best PS1 games of all time are the ones that put the PlayStation 1 on the map and contributed to gaming as we know it."

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Fist4achin2h ago

These were all excellent. I want to add Ghost in the Shell, Road Rash, and parasite Eve.

on_line_forever5m ago

Not only still stand the test of time but still not beating in quality to this day

Let me tell you something else for more older game

captain tsubasa vol. ii super striker on nes for example still to this day nothing beat it and still playing this game sometimes

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Atari has acquired the Intellivision brand, ending the first ever console war

Atari has acquired Intellivision. The company announced today that it had acquired its long-time rival, ending one of the original console rivalries, dating back to the 1970s.

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darthv726h ago

Wow.... two of my earliest gaming platforms. All they need is Coleco to round things out.

This is like Nintendo buying SEGA.

OtterX4h ago

YES! Colecovision was my start! I came to know Mario there in Donkey Kong before the NES was even a thing. :)

Golfcoachh1h ago

Yes such fond memories. My first was the odyssey, but I really started gaming on my colecovision. Had atari and intelivision but coleco was by far the best of the bunch to me.

Kratos_Kart20071h ago

Yes...a gamer from my era...LMAO

Coleco was good...LOL

anast6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Good piece of history here.

edit: I wanted to read it but the cookies pop up is stopping me.

badboyz095h ago

This was just before my time. I do remember my mom's friend having one all dusty in her apartment back in the day.

[R.I.P.} Ms. Irene

Abear215h ago

People forget that console wars are part of the history of this industry. The console wars were started by competitive companies all the way back then and continued through Sega vs Nintendo, Jaguar/3DO/NeonGeo, and PlayStation vs Nintendo and Xbox.

These companies are across oceans and competing for the same business. These companies created the console wars, not crazy fanboys.

anast3h ago

Console wars are fun. It's fun to be a fanboy too. I don't get what's wrong with any of this as entertainment.

darthv723h ago

Young kid school yard banter was fun. 30-40+ year olds still doing it is just disturbing. Many my age (50+) grew out of that a long time ago. We may still have our preferences, but we also embrace a more central position because there is a lot to enjoy on a wide range of genres and systems.

You'll understand one day and then things will forever change.

Petebloodyonion56m ago

The only thing back then was that the game would still appear on competing platforms.
Remember the Coleco Vision could play Atari2600 games via an Expansion modude.

jznrpg5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I had both. Snafu on Intellivision was addicting as hell. Also had Colecovision which had Time Pilot. Combat was probably my favorite Atari game and both Atari and Intellivision had similar games like Pitfall and Jungle Hunt. It’s been so long I don’t really remember which game I liked bettter out of those but I did play my Intellivision a bit more than Atari though I’m not sure why besides Snafu. That was 40+ years ago damn I’m old lol

Dagexon3h ago

Ahh you're making me all nostalgic! Not old enough to have played these on original hardware but my first console was a bootleg console from Costco that had a bunch of intellivision and atari games. Then had a lot of fun with intellivision and atari collections on ps1 and 2.
Snafu was one of my favourite games and me and my partner still occasionally play it to this day

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