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Microsoft: Xbox Scorpio's power advantage over PS4 Pro 'will be obvious'

"Penello was confident that Microsoft's upcoming console will convincingly eclipse Sony's upgraded hardware. "

"The performance delta will be obvious," said Penello.

Krangs_Uncle2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

In a year once Sony have swallowed up a whole years worth of market share.. MS are going to find it tough when the gaping hole in sales will only widen and support for Sony will only grow. I also don't think it is strictly true that the power will be obvious when Sony's 1st party studios pump out their exclusives.. Uncharted 4, God of War, Horizon ETC. (list goes on) are the graphical beasts this gen, and the Pro will only accentuate that.

Multi-platform of course will perform better on Scorpio, but the exclusives from Sony are what I'm after.. MS's gaming outlook after Gears of War is dry as a bone for me. I want to build a PC for Star Citizen mainly, but the MS games would be a plus.

I think MS are trying to start a new gen here - there is no inclusion of the word 'one' within the Scorpio's name (might change?), I think they are trying to get away from this gen as quick as possible. The Remedy PR head even thinks so..

S2Killinit2819d ago

Yup, not to mention that by then we will begin hearing about PS5. How long will scorpio have as the strongest console might be very limited from the looks of things.

christocolus2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

PS5 is the narrative now? Lol...enough with the spin already and even if your predictions were somehow proven right then we would also probably start hearing about the successor to the scorpio a year after and the cycle would continue going on and on......Lol

@Overload

“while hyping a system that is 14 months away that they know nothing about is
priceless”

Oh you mean like how you blindly hyped & defended NMS to the ends of the earth and back and verbally attacked anyone who had a contrary opinion from yours about the game? all this before even playing the game for yourself? oh... the irony. At least I can say I know more about Scorpio now than you did NMS prior launch... Lol.

Overload2819d ago

Laughing at the mention of PS5, while hyping a system that is 14 months away that they know nothing about is priceless.

Gazondaily2819d ago

@Christoculous

😂 I know right? Let's wait for the PS5 then...apparently coming in 2018. If it did come out then, it wouldn't really be for the players would it?

ThePope2819d ago

@Overlord

Laughing at the mention of a console ZERO people know when is coming Vs hyping a system that pre-orders are going to open soon. There I fixed it for you.

LexHazard792819d ago

@Overload, hahahaha, but we do know it will be more powerful.

343_Guilty_Spark2819d ago

Wouldn't bet on PS5 coming until 2020 at the earliest

Artemidorus2819d ago

Creating a new hype train already? You deserve disappointment for not learning.

Cindy-rella2819d ago

Just like how its obvious ps4 is destroying the xbox one in sales so microsoft stopped giving out sales numbers. Good luck selling a console that'll be about 200 dollars more expensive than its competition next year. Ps4 pro is the most powerful console in the world and will be so for morebthan a year. The ps4 will continue to outsell the xbox one every month worldwide and itll be so for years to come. Some people think that ps4s will automatically stop selling when scorpio is released and then itll be above 60 million,lol. Fanat-X

naruga2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Scorpio =PC thank you alot but i have already pC for games i need the exclusivities of a PS or Nitendoo conosole

blady_man2819d ago

Why does everyone leaves the nx out of the fight!? The could well be stronger than ps4 pro!!

mikeslemonade2819d ago

I think it's lame how n4g has unofficially declaring the Scorpio to be better . Xbox is still irrelevant because it has no exclusives. The Pro is the only way you can play Sony exclusives on high settings. As for the Scorpio, I can do everything better on PC.

So it's really no debate on whether Scorpio or Pro is better. Plus you gotta wait hecka long for Scorpio. What the heck are you gonna play in late 2017 on Scorpio, just same old multiplats that I've been playing on max settings on PC already. People here are so casual.

mikeslemonade2819d ago

Lol at Scorpio fans coming from out from the wood work. Thing is Xbox is still irrelevant. Xbox still has zero exclusives and I've been maxing out games on the PC. For Scorpio you still have to wait one year. By then PS5 will be coming out in a year after that. This is no contest. It's laughable how you have to make come here and clarify something so simple.

Sarcasm2819d ago

The reality is that almost everything you can get on the Xbox One, you can get on the PC. And you pick your poison depending on your price. From GPU's that are 2X to 10X faster. There's no point in getting an Xbox.

S2Killinit2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

since the different between standard PS4 and PS4Pro is actually larger than the different between PS4Pro and scorpio, I'm gonna go ahead and say that for a PS4Pro owner, scorpio will be underwhelming as a next gen console. That's the place MS finds itself in because of having to make the first move to end the current generation.

So, whether these xbots think Sony will let xbox have the only next gen console or not for a year or two year or however long, whats clear is that MS is trying to escape the market they are currently in, which means that Sony's next console (PS5) will be much more powerful than the scorpio. (you know, since they can release after) Its a tough situation for MS being that they are so far behind in install base.

PS:
@septic
why wouldn't it be "for the player"? How is scorpio for the players if it releases in a year after the xboxoneS?

DiRtY2819d ago

Releasing the PS5 in 2018 would make the PS4 Pro the biggest waste of money.

2019, maybe 2020 is more reasonable.

A 2018 PS5 won't be much more powerful than the 2017 Scorpio anyway. If the Scorpio turns out to be the beast everybody expects it to be, what can Sony do just one year later to significantly outpower it and hit a reasonable price point?

Makes zero sense IMO.

darthv722819d ago

@overlord, there is no coming back from what Chris laid down. Just walk away now while you still have some dignity.

As to the subject at hand. I feel this is the beginning of a cycle that many did not want to happen but it's going to happen anyway. Rather than keep things within a semi-uniformed generational cycle we will get these individual generational cycles that overlap.

So the scorpio is a next gen system (4 years after the xb1) and is coming out in late 2017. Nintendo will have their NX on the market by then and P4P will aslo be on the market by then but Sony will likely be working on the PS5 to come out in 2019/20 and then MS will likely also be working on something more powerful for 2021/22.

So you see, these systems will all be staggered now instead of within the same time frame that we have become accustomed to. For now, we can assume there will be this constant back and forth every year or other year of a newer and better tech coming out. And my body and wallet are NOT ready.

AngelicIceDiamond2819d ago

"Yup, not to mention that by then we will begin hearing about PS5" So you're gonna skip the current Pro console for a a full blown PS5? You know how pissed off ppl will be if they did that!? People would of gotten robbed with Pro this year if they hint at a PS5. Think about that for a minute Sony didn't necessarily light the world on fire with Pro announcement according to several articles.

Skillz12152819d ago

@chrisocolus hey since were talking about consoles that wont be coming out till over a year from now my as wel talk about the PS5

GameNameFame2818d ago

Wait wait so 40% power difference is noticeable now?

I thought that with Xbox One being behind power that much, it is unnoticeable? Cause Upscaled 1080P is same as native?

I love how spin changes so fast.

game4funz2818d ago

Ps5 by next year?????
Yea that would be the shittiest move by Sony in the history of gaming. New console now and talk of another new console within the year.... Yea that's extremely sad for console gamers.

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Gazondaily2819d ago

Power wise, Scorpio is merking the Pro so much that people are talking about the Scorpio being a new gen.

In a way I do agree that MS are desperate to bury the problems of old. But Scorpio will enable them to do just that, but without forsaking the Xbox One.

43% more power (on paper) is not to be scoffed at. I wonder how much better Scorpio will fare with attempting native 4K. Obviously it stands a much better chance over the P4P but will it be a big difference?

Also the VR stuff on Scorpio ♏ should be beastly if done right. Support Elite Dangerous!

madmonkey012819d ago

i thought 40% power difference didn't matter? but for another year or so there is a 350% power difference between the consoles,

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ThePope2819d ago

@Madmonkey

If you read the comment section of the articles talking about the PS4P people are all of a sudden making it seem like power no longer matters. Which ever company has the most powerful console (or will have) fans will always trumpet power, the fans that dont (or wont) will always downplay it.

DARK_WOLF2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Madmonkey

0.5tf gpu difference while having a slower cpu and both systems having 8gb ram is not much of a difference.

Scorpio has a much better cpu than ps4p. A 2+ tf gpu advantage and 12gb ram vs only 8 on ps4p.

The difference is Huuuge by comparison.

It will be obvious unlike this xb1 vs ps4 which is barely negligable in real life. U ppl need df with a microscope and computers to tell u what to think otherwise u wouldnt know.

Silly gameAr2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

It will take more than power for people to care about Scorpio, and I'm pretty sure you guys know that already. So keep talking about a console that's more then a year away, while comparing it to a console that's a little more than 2 months away, and see which one the world is going to care about first.

Makish2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Sony let me down , just like the X! reveal did,Sony Made the pro weaker on purpose because it wasnt cost efficient to make it as powerful as the Scorpio and now we arernt going to get native 4k games because of Sony, most multiplatform games are on Sonys side (rightfully so because they are winning) , which means most to all multiplatform games will be 1080p upscaled to 4k and only few microsoft and sony first party games will be at 4k native

FYI with playstaion vr , sony isnt making a new console for 3-5 years because there VR is their new console, just like the ps move and kinect pushed back a new console cycle by 3 years

S2Killinit2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

@Septic
"without forsaking the xbox one" ? Really? I'm pretty sure the older xbox owners don't have VR, also MS already said that they will "leave it to the developers if they want to make exclusives for scorpio"; sounds like a new generation to me, and it also sounds like somebody is leaving the small but dedicated xbox owners behind, only after what 3 years?

"43% more power" is a small gap when you compare it to PS4Pro's power difference with the standard PS4. Some people are saying PS4Pro isn't a big difference, but somehow the smaller gap between the PS4Pro and scorpio is "not to be scoffed at". I think its fair to say for a PS4Pro owner, the scorpio will be an underwhelming upgrade.

In the meantime, PSVR and PS4Pro will have VR games and 1st party studios will be gaining experience with VR. Once scorpio comes out it will be a long time before you see any worthy VR games on it because scorpio is the only xbox that is VR capable, and so the install base on scorpio VR will have to start from zero. No developer will be rushing to build games for it. PS4 already has over 40 million VR ready consoles. So yeah, keep waiting for scorpio, I'll play my PSVR on the PS4Pro, and then upgrade to PS5 if it comes out soon. If not I may or may not consider scorpio just to hold me out until PS5 arrives.

extermin8or2819d ago

Diminishing returns.... The effect of the power difference between ps4 pro and Scorpio will likely be less than that of ps4 to ps4 pro.

GameNameFame2818d ago

@DarkWolf_NZ

PS4 has 18 Compute units. While Xbox One has 12 compute units. Each compute units were same on both consoles.

That is pretty significant difference.

I thought xbox fanboys like you said graphics are so good nowdays, because of diminishing return, 40 percent difference in power isnt visible. Cant tell anything about 720P cause your eyes cant see smaller pixel?

Lawl. This spin is so funny.

miyamoto2818d ago

Without Japan and Asia support Xbox will never be world champion.

CaptainObvious8782817d ago

Weren't you one of the people downplaying the power difference between the xbone and ps4?

"43% more power (on paper) is not to be scoffed at."

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Death2819d ago

If your assumption is that Microsoft's goal is to have more sales, I see where you are coming from. I don't think Microsoft is trying to sell more consoles. They are creating a completely different equation all together. By shifting away from traditional cycles they aren't limited to console sales. Gamers can play on more powerful PC's, Scorpio or simply on the Xbox One. If Windows 10 is the common denominator, games will automatically take advantage of the hardware they are played on. This is what they meant when talking about making games backward and forwards compatible.

mcstorm2819d ago

Finally someone sees what Microsoft are doing. Also Microsoft have come out and said they want to build a console that is forward and backwards compatible going forward. So that means when the xbox after Scorpio will play all the games you own plus new ones that come out but Scorpio will carry on playing new games that come out in a lower rez but if you don't want to own a console as your into gaming on pc then their games are on Windows 10 to. That's a win win for MS as there are an X amount of extra racing/fighting/shooting/rpg fans on pc that will look to pickup games like Halo (If it comes) Forza, KI, Recore ect.

No for Sony they have made the Pro to show off VR which is what it really needs imo but sony are going in a different direction to MS and by the sounds of it Nintendo. The question for Sony will be when they bring out the PS5 will it work with PS4 games? or will that move to PS Now. Will Sony move to PS Now and not need a consoles?

No one know what's going to happen and I don't see the Pro sparking more sales for the PS4 but it will be interesting to see how it sell and also the PS VR as in the UK its going to cost around £800 for everything if you don't have anything which I don't see a lot of people doing.

That said the hype is back for gaming now so lets sit back and enjoy the ride.

Overload2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Of course this is the Xbox 2, which is why MS says console generations are over and Sony says the opposite.

Of course no one will admit it, but this is the same fanbase that said Kinect is the future when you say "Xbox On" and DRM wasn't a big deal.

Microsoft will tell them whatever they want and they'll accept it.

Retroman2819d ago

soooooooooo, what X1S is more powerful. who gives a rat-ass. long as the console (any) is powerful for your games and it turn on. you able to play Multiplayer games online who cares?? "what you want MS??? a cookie?? pat on the shoulder?? you found a upper hand at the moment over Sony here's my oatmeal cookie want milk with that??

Prubar2819d ago

After Gears it's dry as a bone? You mean besides Crackdown, Cup Head, Sea of thieves, Halo Wars, and Scalebound? Man you guys come up with lame excuses.

Altovoltage2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

I'm sure they will drop the price of the PS4 Pro when the Scorpio releases and we will probably see a PS5 in 2 years.

lastking952819d ago

Sony becoming the apple of game consoles. That would be 4 consoles in 5 years!

DJustinUNCHAIND2819d ago

Damnit! Why are you guys always changing the tune?

joeorc2819d ago

@Krangs_Uncle

[I think MS are trying to start a new gen here - there is no inclusion of the word 'one' within the Scorpio's name (might change?), I think they are trying to get away from this gen as quick as possible. The Remedy PR head even thinks so..]

Agreed, but also if it's not pretty clear by now what Microsoft's attempts to do in this situation, it's pretty clear what they are and have been trying to do..

This Advantage on a performance level, is just exactly like their whole movement to bring back the PC developers and Publishers back into the fold.

Microsoft's wanting to change the Arguments of instead of coding and mainly publishing for the game console market as it is now...code and publish as if it was just another Extension of the Windows OS PC market , instead of looking at making a Priority of your development time and investments into a non PC standard set of development Tools and graphics Api's that only really Apply to one console's Companies platform instead go with Windows 10 , DirectX12, and UWP instead as your go to platform 1st for developers & Publishers.

As it stands now many PC developers and publishers stuck with Windows 7 mainly on steam over Windows 8 and Windows 10 is still not the main Windows OS on steam for Gaming.

Microsoft's wants that to change, unfortunately for Microsoft's Arguments, PS4 as a platform is not the one trailing in the games console market now, it's the Xbox as a platform that does not have the main market share in the game console market, thus by connecting Xbox with Windows 10 PC as one single Eco system Microsoft hopes to change that.

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4Sh0w2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Wow....so now we are going to talk about PS5, thats desperate fanboy talk, with PS4Pro not even out yet, no way in hell Sony will even mention PS5 in the next 2 yrs, and very likely it won't launch for at least another 3 years, maybe 4yrs to make a decent return on PS4Pro investment.

Hey but enough of the fanboy rhetoric, truthfully both companies have made a calculated trade off....Sony (somewhat surprisingly) has sacrificed power for a early mid to 3/4 cycle launch vs Microsoft who's basically going for a near end console gen major power increase.

Both have their advantages & disadvantages, Sony gets a more limited power boost in the PS4Pro NOW, yet in a year it will be significantly surpassed by Scorpio. Microsoft, while not truly moving on to a next gen platform (apparently this is going to be the new norm for platform development= BC) YES they will have a extra full year to develop some cutting edge high spec exclusives for Scorpio's launch, while also generating some major 3rd party support for Scorpio. They will obviously have a significantly more powerful console for multiplatform games vs their competitors for a minimum of 2-3yrs all by themselves, which will obviously benefits them during that stretch. Downside is of course PS4Pro will have a head start on install base and likely be cheaper than its launch price. -Yet I don't think that will matter much at all, those who want an idea of next gen gaming/major power boost over current generation hardware will buy a Scorpio like early adopters and hardcore gamers always do.

That's it neither is the "better way". lol, sure PS4Pro will have already sold millions but just stop with the doom and gloom rhetoric because neither will fail....both have a huge fanbase and even ps fans have to admit that the Scorpio will benefit from the anticipation of a greater spec'd machine over the next year., also 3rd party dev's will have every incentive to support both platforms as they do now even though ps4 sold more than X1= plenty of money to be made from both....of course like now both will have great games & terrible ones too. lol

It's really that simple, only fanboy think one or the other is doomed.

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BossBattle2819d ago

Yeah the Neo must be the start of a new generation also. Thanks for letting me know.

marioJP872819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

I agree with you. Multi plats will run better on Scorpio but when Sony's first party developers (Espeeeeeeeecially Naughty Dog) develop for PS4 Pro, it'll knock microsoft's exclusives graphically.
I also said that if Microsoft wants to prove scorpio isnt the start of their new gen console, they should name it 'Xbox One Scorpio' and not 'Xbox Scorpio'.

EpicSandwich2819d ago

The damage control today has been out of this world hilarious

Aceman182819d ago

This is not geared towards you Uncle lol, but the delusional fans of the other brand lol.

Honestly I don't care how much power their new system will have under the hood I'm not gonna spend anymore money on MS products especially since their 1st party studios keep throwing out the same damn games.

Also let's not act like the system is going to magically erase the huge 20 million (probably soon to be 30 million gap) all of a sudden.

MS will never be as popular worldwide as Sony no matter how hard you try to convince yourself and others here.

rainslacker2819d ago

MS intent until they release the Scorpio is to try and give people pause when buying a system, hoping they'll hold out for a year for the vague promises that it will simply be better. MS needs to start showing results IMO, because just going around saying it's better impresses the fan boys, and fan boys, for the most part, aren't the people you need to market to to get them to buy your system.

It's like saying, "Best line up ever", DX12 will rule all, or "Cloud will significantly improve things. You can say that all day long, but if you can't show it in a way that makes people believe it, it doesn't mean anything. As of right now, the only people who seem impressed by all of MS marketing and all their power and better products, are those who seem inclined to prefer the brand already.

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YinYangGaming2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

If anything comes out of this it's that the so-called "console war" is back on

TwoForce2819d ago

Let's start a war, shall we ? There is no going back.

Goldby2819d ago

we playing paragon now?

joeorc2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

@YinYangGaming2h ago(Edited 2h ago)
[If anything comes out of this it's that the so-called "console war" is back on]

Really ? It's on? How about , it was never off in the 1st place, and the fact that the terms for the game console market is not just central only to the North American and UK markets as the only markets that Matter.

Or the fact that right now Microsoft has only will be producing the Xbox one S now as their only console in production, with the original Xbox one now being phased out..so now until the Xbox one Scorpio, Microsoft is now down to once again One single console in the market for the company at a time...

While both Sony and Nintendo have more than one system at a time in the market.

While Sony still has or will have
PS4 slim
PS4 Pro
PS3
PSVita
PSVR

In the retail market , at the same time vs 1 single system Microsoft makes , but yet even with all of that Sony is still producing more games than Microsoft in their 1st party than what Microsoft is doing with only one system in the market now.

But yet , let's only count market share and mind share based on the metric data of how well Microsoft single system does in the UK & North American market while at the same time in the Arguments that not only ignore the world wide market , but also Sony has to exclude it's other PlayStation platforms in that Metric so as to show like the Puffer fish..in the fish Market , on how Microsoft is stealing Majority of Market share away from Sony..due to being able to inflate it's market penetration size..

It's pretty classic, way of setting the Arguments to a certain way to gear the challenge in a way the completely ignores the real truth.

In market share determination, would Ford or Chevy choose to ignore all the production line models to tally their Market share just because another car company may only have one model in the market?

subtenko2819d ago

There is no war, its already been won by PlayStation :) *hides behind tree*

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Overload2819d ago

Not if it's tied to the Xbox One, which they claim it will be.

DJustinUNCHAIND2819d ago

Says Overload. The guy who has been wrong about nearly everything.

daBUSHwhaka2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Certainly knew all there was to know about No Mans Sky, praised it to bits just to refund it.......meh

Overload2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Aside from No Man's Sky was have I been wrong about? Which I was wrong about, I was lied to.

It's one thing to say it I'm wrong, but prove it.

LexHazard792819d ago

Go play No Mans Sky and leave the real gamers alone.

kraenk122819d ago

You're actually one of the more sensible guys on here. Let them talk.

aconnellan2819d ago

I guess the PS4 Pro isn't more powerful than the PS4 then, because they're so closely tied together

JasonKCK2818d ago

Overload! umm... it works just like it does on PC.

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Neonridr2819d ago

Remember that it is Sony showing their hand earlier. The Xbox One S is here to compete with the PS4 Slim, not the Pro. The Pro and Scorpio will go head to head. And if Sony has plans of releasing a Pro successor in like 2 years time, then they are nuts.

If you don't like MS console exclusives then obviously the Scorpio won't be for you. Just like if you aren't a fan of Sony's then stay away from the Pro. Simple as that. 3rd party games will be interesting when compared side by side if MS can deliver on their numbers. Plus the 4K adoption rate will be a little bit higher come next fall so it will help MS out because they will actually be able to show more of a difference.

madmonkey012819d ago

maybe they will bring a new console 2 years after scorpio, that would give MS an edge for 2 years, but then would be left behind again , that would be a 6 year cycle with a mid gen upgrade. IF MS tries to launch at the same time they would be abandoning the scorpio after only 2 years,

Neonridr2819d ago

but isn't that what is happening here with the Pro? They will have an advantage for a year but then left behind by the Scorpio? Sony is firing first here, the Pro and the Scorpio are competing, not the Xbox One S (which is designed to equate to the PS4 Slim)

GameNameFame2818d ago

@Neonridr

Except that Xbox do not have exclusives anymore.

Have you not seen Sony executive's claim of PC being bigger competition?

Xbox loses bad to PC. If people really wanted to care about spec and wanted to play Xbox games, they can build stronger Xbox PC machine today. Dont even need scorpio

Neonridr2818d ago

@GameNameFame - but if they don't have the capital to build a gaming PC, then the XB Scorpio will do just fine. And allow them to play against gamers across more platforms now. Means a larger install base.

WombBat2819d ago

Having transitioned from the Xbox 360 this gen, I have to say that I am severly underwhelmed by the PS4 exclusives. I remember being on the other side, seeing games like Uncharted, last of us, and god of war.

Now, having played them, I realized theyre not for me.

I predict a lot of people were let down with p4 titles. theyre all story driven and lacking in some areas.
theyll move to xbone

Goldby2819d ago

may just be your experiences, Uncharted isn't for everyone. and isn't as good as alot of people claim it to be, had some pacing issues i felt when i played and reviewed it.

on that note, keep in mind, those aren';t the only type of exclusive available for PS4. yes it may be the most talked about, but there are alot more games avialable to it

respekanize912819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

What exactly didnt you know about two games that had multiple releases and a game that won every award under the sun when it was released to make you think you might like them?

Only liars that never played those games were let down...those titles speak for themselves

i smell BS..........

edit...my xbox one literally gets turned on once a month for my 2 free games until Gears 4 comes out....

WombBat2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

Its not B.S.

Its not that the games aren't good, its that they dont have that x factor. I really dont know exactly what it is, but it generally is with games where the developers always talk about story and graphics.

To be honest, there are only a few games that captivate me and allow me to truly enjoy it. Smash bros wii u, rocket league, halo 5, bloodborne(a little bit), and MGSV(a little bit).

I remember playing the last of us and I was shocked at how i couldnt even play it for more than 2 hours. it was such a drag and i even felt sick playing it. I actually liked the multiplayer better than the story.

Yeah now that I think about it, Xbox one doesnt really have the games either. I think Nintendo generally focuses on gameplay, and has a better chance of doing it, but none of my friends are on it, the console is underpowered, the games are released so infrequently, and lame controller.

madmonkey012818d ago

so ps4 exclusives are lacking so people will move to xbox, where there are none?

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madmonkey012819d ago

any console released a year later and at a higher price will have an obvious power advantage, but it doesnt always help.

bleedsoe9mm2819d ago (Edited 2819d ago )

going to help me get great looking game at a high resolution with stable framerates . its just going to be a fact whatever the pro does scorpio is going to do it better .

Goldby2819d ago

Scorpio cant stream Playstation Vue so not everything :)

and all honesty, i still think Playstation Vr will be the better of the two console vr solutions, at least on sales side and content wise. afterall, last month oculus and vive numbers for steam went up what 1.8%?

yes ther are games, but apaprently not the games that are selling the device. sony 49 games coming out before holiday (i say 49 because gts is 2017 now)

Power help, but itsn';t the end all and be all solution

Sarcasm2819d ago

Then build a PC.

If framerates and high resolution is your thing, get a PC. And one year from now when the scorpio launches, a $150 GPU is probably going to be 5X faster than the Scorpio.

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just_looken2d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty2d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken2d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty2d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken2d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken2d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken1d 23h ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie1d 21h ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 21h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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