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No Man's Sky Steam page updated with unique refund notice

In response to a flurry of refund activity on No Man's Sky this weekend, Steam has updated the game's page with a "no special exemptions" notice.

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thorstein2829d ago

No Man's Sky Refund Article 431.2 (.2 to show that it is updated with new refund information.)

No Man's Hype: 12/10
No Man's Hate: 22/10

Number_92829d ago

People don't like being screwed. Who would have thunk it?

PizzaSteve2829d ago

Millions get screwed by COD every year and still buy it.

sullynathan2829d ago

No one gets screwed by cod every year. You buy what you wanted and Activision showed cod fans what they wanted. It seems you people can't get that through your skull.

AgentSmithPS42829d ago

They're lining up already to be BF'd by dice/ea's BF1 ;), people forget the major issues BF3, BF4, etc have had for a long time after release until they finally patch it all up.

subtenko2829d ago

How did they get screwed other than the exceptional cases of the game crashing or not working (mostly PC players although reports say the patched fixed 99% of that)

Nitrowolf22829d ago (Edited 2829d ago )

You guys are confusing recycled elements, main cod buyers know what they are buying, to a new IP that was stated to have features that it doeant.

Cod and bf present themselves for what they are at every reveal trailer.

Crashes aside, because that could happen with any game, how exactly is a yearlyrics cod buyer getting screwed for buying cod?

nX2829d ago

^I actually felt more screwed by CoD Advanced Warfare, Modern Warfare 3 or Ghosts than about No Man's Sky. Also Battlefront, Watch Dogs or Assasin's Creed Unity felt like less value for my money and those games were all made by 100-500 developers.

NMS is not a bad game per se, it's just missing some vital features that would make it enjoyable for longer than 10 hours. They could easily patch in some kind of quest system or faction wars that would turn the whole thing around.

MagicBeanz2828d ago

People have been screwed not only by devs but by whole companies like Microsoft repeatedly and there has been nothing like the smear campaign that we've seen leveled at this game and this developer, for some reason No Mans Sky has been placed under a microscope while others get a pass.

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Artemidorus2829d ago

No Man Lie can be added into the list.

Give it afew months and discount and will find out what's what.

Lon3wolf2829d ago

To counter all the BS being spread about refunds given after 30+ hrs of play time.

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MasterCornholio2829d ago

"Valve, perhaps in response to a high volume of refund requests, now appear to have reversed that leniency. Technical issues, missing features, and misleading advertising (the Steam page itself still features a trailer containing things not in the game) have all been cited by dissatisfied players as reasons for requesting their money back."

People should be really careful when buying this game. It's easy to pass 2 hours with it without noticing.

Brave_Losers_Unite2829d ago

Yeah I have easily passed 2 hours in games by falling asleep at the desk.

Hoffmann2829d ago

People should be careful with just every game at launch these days.

Artemidorus2829d ago

Yeah could start by being honest, it works really well for customers.

MasterCornholio2829d ago

What I mean is that in 2 hours you barely do anything in this game. So it's easy to lose track of time with it.

It's a good thing we have this article because there are many people who believe there's unlimited time for refunds with this title.

freshslicepizza2829d ago (Edited 2829d ago )

@Hoffmann
"People should be careful with just every game at launch these days."

especailly games where they don't ship any reviewable copies before the release date and pleads to the public not to watch any early video showing up on youtube. this just goes to show how this game is quite high in refunds, which some people still are a bit in denial about.

Duoma2828d ago

I would say I'm surprised people still haven't learned since this gaming generation but im not. We're talking about some of the most fickle scatterbrained short attention short memory types.

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pcz2828d ago

i havent even played the game and i was 1000 percent sure i would never purchase the game in my entire life. you dont need to play it for one hour, or 50 if you have common sense.

it annoys me when people use the argument that you cant know something about a product or experience unless you have tried it yourself. whereas i know you will get hurt if you jump off a cliff with no parachute. some things are just obvious.

this game doesnt require you to play it to know it sucks. its obvious

Clown_Syndr0me2828d ago

I've said this for months and got so much hate and down votes. Now look, I was right.

deafdani2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

Except it doesn't suck. It's no masterpiece, either, and I can definitely see why there was such a shitstorm because of the lies - the developers had it coming - but the game itself is good, if you like exploring and grinding.

I like exploring and grinding, and because of that, I've had a lot of fun with the game so far. It helps that I never paid attention to the hype, as well.

Your statement is still somewhat accurate, if you change the last sentence to something like:

"This game doesn't require you to play it to know if it's for you or not".

Because, seriously, you only need to read a few reviews, ranging from good to bad, and watch some let's plays - it's pretty easy on the PS4, using Live from Playstation - to find out whether this game will be your cup of tea or not. As it is, it's obviously a highly divisive product. People either seem to love it or hate it, with very little wiggle room for a middle point here. I'm in the love camp.

rainslacker2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

I think one can potentially make a good judgement on if they'll like a game based on what they see before buying. Prudence is never a bad thing when spending money on something, either a game or anything else we spend money on.

At the same time though, one can't really go on to say, "that game sucks" with any real 1st hand knowledge to be able to express why it sucks without actually playing it....and nowadays, that tends to be the more common motif in all these forums about the quality of a particular game.

And the more recent advent of where people are told what they should hate about a game before it's even released, or soon after it's released, becoming the thing that people latch onto to say why the game sucks, even though copious numbers of other people will say that it doesn't. I mean, NMS certainly has things beyond the lack of a MP feature which it can be critiqued on which could be much more meaningful for the end player than all the general comments of "it sucks", but you wouldn't actually be able to express in detail what you feel sucks about it, or make it relate for the end user as a whole.

I dunno, it's as if people can't accept that people have different tastes or something.

To me, NMS doesn't suck. It has it's flaws, but generally, I'm enjoying it. Won't consider it the best game I ever played, and can cite some criticisms I have for it, but I formed those critiques based on actual 1st hand experience. At best, you can only say it sucks based on spurious analytical analysis with absolutely no 1st hand experience to say how all those things which turned you off actually turn out in the overall game play experience.....thus....making your opinion of the game completely invalid beyond your own preference of if it's something that appeals to you.

Funny how that works huh?

LordMaim2828d ago

No it doesnt. No it isn't.
@Clown_Syndr0me: No you weren't.

Everything is subjective.

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nowitzki20042828d ago

I actually still liked it after 2 hours or at least was willing to give it a try. Way too repetitive for my liking.

Valkron12828d ago

My question to Steam is why are they still showing the trailer that is no way like the real game

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1nsomniac2829d ago

I guarantee there will be a class action lawsuit against Hello Games for this. I've seen far more for far less.

The fact they are still using the fake trailers to sell the game is extremely worrying though as it shows a genuine acceptance of it. Which is very dangerous to all of us no matter how you feel about the game.

zivtheawesome2829d ago

and ubisoft's downgrades are okay right because they are a big company huh?

Tobsesan2829d ago

Well, they dont look as promised. But this game has almost nothing they promised.

zivtheawesome2829d ago

I disagree the game has almost all feature that were said to be. multiplayer does not fit for this type of game. the only missing feature i am dissapointed about really is the factions war and it is also pretty useless. i knew that this is what to expect from this game so i was satifsied

1nsomniac2829d ago (Edited 2829d ago )

@zivtheawesome I was against Ubisoft & their downgrades too & was very vocal about them, still am to this day. I always will be the same way that I'm very vocal about Gearbox & have stuck by never buying their products again. I will do the same with Hello Games & anything by Shahid Kamal Ahmad also.

The level of misinformation spread by Sean Murray in order to falsely sell his product to unwitting consumers is at Randy Pitchford levels & that's unacceptable. He should be held accountable for it just like all the others.

The fact you're so openly disagreeing despite all the factual evidence just shows your blind ignorance i'm afraid.

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its_JEFF2828d ago

Sadly there probably will be a class action lawsuit. This small studio will probably be shut down and put out of business and they will be out of work. The witch hunt is real, people won't stop. I don't believe for 1 second that Sean Murray and his team set out to lie and mislead consumers. More likely the reality is they set out to create their original vision but slowly realized that they neither had the means or the man power to accomplish all that they set out to do, but by then the hype was out of control and they couldn't take a set backwards.

I image that this could lead to major publishers pulling back on taking risk on studios and games, that aren't proven... it'll certainly lead to dev's being a lot more careful about what they say or promise to deliver.

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Dirtnapstor2829d ago (Edited 2829d ago )

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the game had to be sliced and diced to make the delayed released date. It's not horrendous by any means. Great concept that got stunted. Like many, I'm stuck with a disc. If this had been a $20 price point, attitudes would be different. I can only hope Hello is frantically working to patch and put back everything that made this game look so appealing prior to its release.

Pintheshadows2829d ago

I really think it should have been £29.99.

It is currently £46.99 in my local GAME. That is ridiculous.

ocelot072828d ago

@Pintheshadows even though this should be £30 or less title. GAME are known to overcharge for new and used games. For example take FIFA a yearly released title. Game seem to think it's ok to charge £50 for FIFA 17 when the likes of Tesco, Grainger games sell it for £40.

I remember about 5 years ago. Around when FIFA 12 was about to release. Supermarkets like Tesco and Asda was selling FIFA 12 for £35 new. GAME was selling it for £50 and one of the higher ups at GAME complained to the media that supermarkets should not be able to sell them that cheap as it will put them out of business. In fact GAME did almost go out of business.

SoulMikeY2828d ago

While I agree the game didn't quite deliver, you sound ridiculous.

Learn how the law works before you speak. And maybe re-watch the trailer. In the eyes of the the law, if you can stretch something to be true, it's true.

"Is there multiplayer?" Absolutely, multiple players share the same universe.

"Can you run into other players?" Of course, you can't see them, but you can be in the same place, same time. And on their planet with them.

Law-gic.

Servbot412828d ago

I don't know what world you live in where "run into another person" can also mean "occupy the same space but not be able to see or meet a person," but it's not the real world.

SoulMikeY2828d ago (Edited 2828d ago )

Servbot41, I don't believe that, I'm saying that's how lawyers will deflect you. You clearly have never done a serious jury duty...

Don't be a douche, read before commenting please. You people just want to attack something.

Also, it IS a video game, not the real world. lol. Smh, some people's kids...

Hoffmann2829d ago

Haha, all these people that buy a game at launch and later complain.

Be like Hoffmann, be smart, don't buy games at launch anymore

MasterCornholio2829d ago

Or at least wait until the reviews are out. Some games are worth buying at launch. However many times games are not worth their launch price.

Hoffmann2829d ago

Some games are worth to buy at launch indeed, but they seem to become a rare occassion now between all these buggy experiences,..or in the case of NMS, a lesser experience than expected

thorstein2829d ago

I have bought about a dozen games based solely on the hate they received. Some are among the best games I played this generation.

And the reviewers/ journos were all notorious for doing exactly what they are doing with NMS.

I am loving NMS by the way, I even have the platinum.

rainslacker2828d ago

Reviews even aren't always a good indicator on if a game is worth it.

One thing you can count on though is that the internet won't let a bad game go unpunished....unless it's on one's preferred console....so the problem is discerning the BS concern reviews against those who have actually played it, and in some cases, with exclusives, finding the middle ground which is likely where the truth resides.

Seems like a lot of work to actually know if a game is good or not.....which is why I tend to just by the games that look like I'd enjoy them. Often day one, sometimes later. It's rare I'm actually disappointed in a game I buy day one, because those tend to be the games I would actually like, and I do keep up with them more so know what more to expect from them.

Even things like QB, which ended up disappointing for me, wasn't on a level of disappointment that made me regret buying it day one. Just something I realized I could have waited to play, but no real harm done other than maybe spending a bit more. Will support the game though, because it's good enough.

Psychotica2829d ago

Or learn you have two hours to play and get a refund in that time

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Duke192829d ago

lol @ all the downvotes. I completely agree with you. Its the risk of being an early adopter...

Im not saying what the developer did was right (misleading information - but damn a bunch of these people should wait for reviews/the game to be complete BEFORE buying it)

MatrixxGT2828d ago

It's not like it was 15 years ago where you walked into a store a stared at awesome box art thinking this game is going to be awesome only to buy it, put it in your system and realize it's a puzzle game.

Those were the days of getting burned, today though with YouTube, twitch, thousands of news site fetching for any straw of information about a new game you should be able to tell if a game is going to be for you or not. At least have an idea if your going to hold off or preorder.

NMS screamed "wait and see" for me since it was announced.

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Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica Remakes are reportedly in the works, not Resident Evil 1

Industry insider Dusk Golem reveals that there is no Resident Evil 1 Remake in the works. Instead, Capcom are reportedly in active development of Resident Evil Zero and Code Veronica.

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RE Zero would be better to do first over RE1 because they can tie the story into RE1 more.

The original RE Remake was weird because Rebecca never mentioned anything about what happened in Zero and it felt so disjointed because Zero was developed during the Remake and they clearly didn't share any notes with one another.

Cacabunga3h ago

Wise decision. 2 of my favorites!

Knightofelemia1d 2h ago

Give me Dino Crisis dammit Capcom

TGG_overlord8h ago

And all it took was +24 years + a phone call from me lol.

GotGame81824m ago

LOL! A phone call from you? ROFL! They have been remaking RE games for YEARS! It was a matter of time!

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Limited Run Games reveal physical console editions of Clock Tower: Rewind

Love survival horror? Love physical editions of games? Limited Run Games have got your back as they reveal a physical collection for Clock Tower: Rewind on Xbox, Switch, PlayStation and PC.

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Hugodastrevas4d ago

Still waiting for the physical release of Tomba!

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies2d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 17h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit2d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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