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Phil Spencer, We Still Want an XBox Handheld and the Time for One is Right

A plea for Phil Spencer and MS to reconsider their position on an XBox handheld, and why doing so could allow them to create problems for their console competitors. An opinion piece by Agasicles Stamas, editor for GamersSphere.com.

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MrSwankSinatra3669d ago

The last time i heard anybody talk about a Xbox handheld was when the Nintendo DS & PSP came out. Everyone just automatically assumed that since Microsoft was still sort of a newcomer to gaming industry that they were gonna just gonna follow suit and directly compete with Sony & Nintendo in the handheld market. I don't see them entering that market and even if they did they wouldn't be successful. Nintendo owns that market and always will.

candy_mafia3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

Super bad idea MS....

I think MS wants in on the whole 'Remote play' thing. MS needs to win more hearts 'n minds with X1 around the globe, before developing a dedicated Handheld.

Unless it's some kind of 'Hosting' device that 'only' does Remote Play. Otherwise, I think this could be Mr. Spencer's first big Boo-Boo in charge of Xbox division ;/

#silly

Ryan7413669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

You are wasted on here. Do you work in the games industry? If not its a dam shame.

truefan13669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

You and many others just proved you don't read past the title concerning MSFT/XB1 articles. The very first sentence without clicking the article says "A plea for Phil Spencer and MS to reconsider their position on an XBox handheld, and why doing so could allow them to create problems for their console competitors." This is just someone who thinks MSFT should create a hanheld, NOT MSFT considering a handheld.

I doubt MSFT gets into the handheld business because they are pushing buy once, play anywhere. I think the surface will be their handheld, finding a way to link the controller to the tablet.

MCTJim3669d ago

@truefan1

What people read?..how silly

Naga3669d ago

*cough*justbuynintendo*cough*

vallencer3669d ago

I think Microsoft is content with smartglass. Making a handheld would be a bad idea and they know it. Hence why smartglass seems to do all the things they want.

UltimateMaster3669d ago

I tough they said that the "Windows Phones" were their new handheld.

Prime1573669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

If ms made a handheld, it might actually help the handheld industry bring AAA games to the handheld market.

Big xbox fanboys would most likely buy one, and then when a third party developer creates a big game for one, they would probably not go exclusive (as a third party). Which results in more sales for the developer because of Nintendo, Sony, and ms having their own install base.

I'm just saying, xbox handheld would increase the amount of handheld install base, not steal from the current market share between vita and Nintendo.

I don't see it hampering the market, but that doesn't mean it would actually help the market and be profitable for business.

Just my overall speculation.

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theshonen88993669d ago

The handheld market's biggest audience are commuter counties like Japan and Europe. You know, the audience that doesn't buy Xbox products.

Brazz3669d ago

yup. these and childrens that are in love for pokemon and other nintendo games. Microsoft and sony need strong 3º party support if they want win a fight against nintendo in handheld market, something that is very unlike to happen, since handheld market that good for third party.

nypifisel3669d ago

And even that market is in decline since smartphones entered the stage. This is stupid really.

MASTER_RAIDEN3669d ago

agreed. I honestly dont remember the last time in at least 5 years that anyone even brought up the possibility of a microsoft handheld. that would just seem like a huge waste of money thrown into an already-crowded market.

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Mankey3669d ago

True, I just kind of assumed they weren't interested at this point.

3-4-53669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

Yea Xbox handheld would be awesome, but Nintendo has got these things on lock down. I mean there is room for a 3rd competitor, but Good luck, your going to need it.

* How much you want to bet it's more expensive than the Wii U is.

Godmars2903669d ago

MS cannot still be "new to gaming". Not now. Not when the DS and PSP came out.

Given that they've pulled at least one boner with each console they've released, its time to realize and admit that they're just clueless.

Magicite3669d ago

and I was wondering when MS will finally unleash its portable beast...
On a serious note - handheld market is having a rough times, even successor of glorious DS, is not faring that well.

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christocolus3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

I don't know what to make of this.Ms doesn't need a handheld for now and besides Nintendo will be really hard to compete with in that market as their handhelds have reigned supreme in every generation..I don't think MS should bother about that now imo they need to put all their focus on the xbox one.

Phil is right.releasing a handheld wouldn't be a wise deceision.

CerealKiller3669d ago

A handheld would be a massive failure.

Imonaboat13669d ago

I would buy it in a heart beat. I just hope it doesnt turn into a gameless machine and actually be worth the hype. Unlike the Vita.

Ryan7413669d ago

The Vita is a good machine its just the games are kinda niche.

Summons753669d ago

The very few games are niche but niche doesn't sell well to masses and in business you need to focus on getting the masses first and the niche will soon follow. Even still there is a handful of titles worth actually purchasing on the vita that you can count on your hand and nothing major or exclusive in the pipeline that makes people want to justify 250+ bucks after memory and games. Their biggest mistake is making a huge deal out of the remote play feature, a lot of people are getting confused and thinking that's it's purpose now.

etownone3669d ago

I own a Vita..

Only AAA exclusive game so far is Killzone.

The Vita just sucks... I'm sorry but it does. It's already outdated by cellphones.

The future of portable gaming is smartphones/tablets.... Once they learn how to link the controllers to them to work flawlessly.

GameDev13669d ago

@DanielGearSolid

He doesn't own a Vita, look at his comment history, clearly xbox fanboy

Imonaboat13669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

Yes i do. I got it on launch day and i remember being hyped as hell the days before the launch.

@GameDev

I own a Vita,PS4,PS3,3DS, Wii u i have never owned an Xbox which doesnt mean i hate it i just dont find any game appealing for me there. Also, i just state the truth. If Sony are doing something bad i will point it out. The same for Nintendo and Microsoft.

Show me one comment that implies i am an Xbox fanboy

AceBlazer133669d ago

Vita gameless? How bout you reword that to "No games you like" with all the rpgs i see on vita it's more than enough for me. You idiots always spreading this no games bs, i guarantee you don't own every vita game.

Uncharted
Unit 13
Gravity Rush
Conception II
Persona 4
Danganronpa Games
Demon Gaze
Call of Duty Declassified
Disgaea 3
Dragon Ball Z Battle of Z
FIFA 13 and 14
God Eater 2
Guilty Gear
Killzone Mercenary
MLB 12-14
Muramasa Rebirth
2 One Piece Games
Resistance
Sly Cooper
Senran Kagura

If anyone can say with a straight face that Vita has no games, they are either, hating, delusional, echoing what they hear or have an extremely limited taste in video games.

dodgemoose3669d ago

You should probably take some of those games off that list of yours. For instance, Call of Duty Declassified is just horrendous and Fifa 13/14 aren't even the updated games, but rather 'legacy' editions of Fifa Football.

But yes, the argument that Vita has no games is flawed. However, that list is very limited, and it ain't really getting any longer either. I finished playing all the AAA Vita games that took my fancy within 3 months. I've found myself just playing indie games as of late, which whilst great in their own right, simply don't satisfy me to the same extent as games much as Killzone: Mercenary (which I've got a platinum on btw).

Harsh reality is, if Sony doesn't pull anything out of the bag at E3 for Vita, think mine may end up on eBay soon. I think it's unlikely they will though, since focus needs to be put on the PS4.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie1d 22h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19728d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv727d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19726d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal7d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead7d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan7d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl7d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx6d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8511d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.