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Spencer Comments On Lack of 1080p Games on Xbox One, Hints Sakaguchi RPG, No Big Announcement At GDC

Spencer talked about amount of 900p games due to lack of time to optimize to 1080p, hinted Sakaguchi RPG announcement on Feb 25 and more.

pedrof933735d ago

He gave a really odd answer about the 1080p question didn't he ?

GribbleGrunger3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

Yes he did. It sounds like optimisation won't ever solve the problem and that people are going to have to accept the disparity between the consoles:

Spencer was also asked to comment: "Is the amount of 900p games due to lack of time to optimize to 1080?"

To this he replied: "NO, I think you'll find over this generation games will use a variety of rez and framerates."

In other words it's the technology not the fact it hasn't been optimised. Spencer's words, not mine.

OC_MurphysLaw3735d ago

I think that is a safe answer for them right now. No way can they promise all Xbox One games will be 1080p 60fps given: 1) the track record so far 2) If he does say its optimization issues and then a dev comes out sub its like they are saying its the devs fault not the hardware which they don't want to to do to partners. 3) If he says that and games come out later that are sub many will run around saying they are lying.

This was about as honest an answer he can give regarding the resolution/frame rate for the Xbox One.

Gazondaily3735d ago

Indeed. It is the hardware. I wonder how MS will fight back against the PS4 with this mind?

There is only one way. Going toe to toe with Sony in the battle of exclusives. This gen is going to be VERY interesting.

GribbleGrunger3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

@Septic: By offering fantastic 1st party games and demonstrating that resolution alone isn't the reason a game can be great. This is why I think they should come clean about the 50% difference, bite the bullet and 'show' not 'tell'. That's the only way they'll ever get any credibility back.

Perhaps then sites like Misterxmedia will disappear and so stop setting X1 owners up for disappointments in the future.

Gazondaily3735d ago

@Gribble

I agree. Whilst I don't pay any mind to likes of Misterx or even supposed insiders like Thuway and CBOAT, I think MS need swallow their pride and be forthcoming.

This year's E3 will speak volumes and will let gamers know MS' intent for thr rest of this generation. They have an uphill task ahead of them but I believe they can deliver.

I wish them luck, for the sakes of us gamers. They sure as hell are gonna need it.

maniacmayhem3735d ago

@Gribble

"This is why I think they should come clean about the 50% difference,"

C'mon Gribble, what company admits their shortcomings in relation to the competition. We have heard from many devs that it is possible to have parity for X1 and PS4 it's just that X1 architecture is a pain in the a$$ to make it so.

There has been no credibility lost, especially since all the multiplat games play the EXACT same way on each system.

"By offering fantastic 1st party games and demonstrating that resolution alone isn't the reason a game can be great."

This is so true for each company. So much focus has been put on res and framerate that it's starting to overshadow the actual games.

Angainor73735d ago

"NO, I think you'll find over this generation games will use a variety of rez and framerates."

He is not talking ''games in general'' on both Xbox One and PS4. Regardless if PS4 will have much more games running at 1080p/60fps.

MightyNoX3735d ago

Gribble, you're on NeoGAF. Can you confirm if this Senjutsu in the article is the same Senjutsu there?

GribbleGrunger3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

@MightyNoX: I honestly couldn't tell you. There are thousands of user on Gaf and whilst I do go there, I don't frequent the site often enough to know all of the major posters.

@maniacmayhem: It's not a matter of them stating they're the weakest console, it's just a matter of them coming clean and acknowledging that Sony has an advantage in power. Talk of 'cloud', 'secret source', 'stacked chipsets' and '8% freed resources' are only giving their fans a sense of false hope. Tell it how it is and make the games. It's as simple as that.

KingDadXVI3735d ago

"This is why I think they should come clean about the 50% difference"

Go get your computer engineering degree and come back and say that. The difference is far less than you think which is why they will not admit it.

You simply cannot just compare GPU to GPU or memory to memory or CPU to CPU. There are different buses, clock speeds, discrete processors, etc.

Hell the WiiU can display at 1080p. What he says means that the developers will chose which things to focus on in the games. Resolution will be one item amongst many others. Developers with the PS4 will face the same choices.

A good example is whether you decrease polygon count in order to have a higher resolution. Which has the most impact on the picture you see? Ryse looks far better at 900p with its polygon count than it would have at 1080p with 30% less polygons.

If anyone wants full effects with 1080p at 60fps you should not buy either console as it will not happen. You should be getting a $2500 gaming pc.

Will the PS4 always have a power advantage? Yes it will but not the 50% baby blanket that many are towing around to sooth themselves with.

Either way MS is off to a great start in the games department.

FamilyGuy3734d ago

"Yes he did. It sounds like optimization won't ever solve the problem and that people are going to have to accept the disparity between the consoles: "

I'm surprised he answered it like that, they gave up on the lie it would seem.

DigitalRaptor3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@ ManiacMayhem

Gribble is right, not just because continued competitive spin (AKA manipulation) is wrong, but because one of the Xbox execs went on to NeoGaf and lied to people in one of the most desperate attempts to sell their console to hardcore, discerning gamers, I've ever seen. They've been misleading their consumers about the capabilities of their console from the day they knew Sony had the jump on them.

Just read the embarrassment. http://m.neogaf.com/showpos...

He hasn't come back and apologised, or even acknowledged the lies. It's weak that there are no consequences to that.
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@ KingDadXVI

Read those statements from Penello.

Look at the differences between the two next-gen versions of Ground Zeroes. Kojima is a guy who will look to get the most out of the consoles he develops for. That is why the last-gen versions still look so damn good. But the PS4 version is outputting a 50% higher pixel density and additional affects that are exclusive to the PS4 version, because it can afford to.

Penello claimed that there was no way they'd let Sony get a 30%+ advantage, but it's clear that the difference is higher than 30%, and 50% is probably closer to the truth.

You don't just design a console like this and expect to match a console that was designed first and foremost as a powerful gaming console: http://www.gengame.net/2013... And that's why the dishonesty needs to cease, and Microsoft just stop the damn smoke and mirrors charades that we have come to expect from them.

abzdine3734d ago

@Septic

they cannot fight against Sony's 1st party games no matter what they come up with. they will for sure make some great games but overall Sony studios are impossible to top.

maniacmayhem3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@Gribble
You are being very unrealistic. You really expect MS to say or come clean:

"and acknowledging that Sony has an advantage in power."

That is beyond absurd. That's like asking Pepsi to acknowledge that Coke tastes better (purely opinionated but you get the picture).

Sites like Mistermedia wouldn't stop in fact more Sony troll sites would flourish if MS ever said anything remotely as you suggested to the public. Hell, we can just see a small example on this very site from the trolls and sony fanboys.

@Digital
It has already been said and proven that the Xbox One can do everything the PS4 can. It is already established from devs that the reason there's no graphics parity is because of the X1's architecture.

Both consoles have just taken off from the starting line. So who knows, maybe devs will take advantage and start doing what Xbox execs said they could do with the X1.

But right now each dev is rushing their games out to the market for the new systems. Devs at this moment do not have time to spend making the X1 up to snuff. The same was done for the PS3 which I know you remember. But in time the multiplats for PS3 and 360 were identical.

UltimateMaster3734d ago

At least he's honest. Got to have at least one of them on the team.

cozomel3734d ago

@maniacmayhem

But youre a troll and a fanboy, so stop calling others fanboy. Also, its been showned that the XO cannot graphically match the PS4. If you werent such a fanboy you'd see that. And anybody complaining that this site or the internet is nothing but Sony fanboys, are just fanboys themselves. Im tired of hearing your nonsense

dantesparda3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@maniac

"It has already been said and proven that the Xbox One can do everything the PS4 can"

One word: Delusional!!!

Freaking fanboys and their stupid shizz

maniacmayhem3734d ago

@ dantesparda and cozomel

Yup, you caught me red handed. The curtain has been pulled and it is I who am the fanzboy!

I apologize to everyone for pretending to be this "sort of" non-biased gamer who tried to discuss games and the gaming industry on this website.

Clearly I was delusional with stupid shizz.

Cueil3734d ago

no, but the new dev kits will help

moparful993734d ago

@maniacmayhem. The PS3 was far more powerful from a cpu aspect with a su par gpu.. Once the devs figured out how to move graphics computes to the cell the 360 lost its multiplat advantage while first party titles werefar and away better on the PS3.. This time aroumd the PS4 has the more powerful and easiest to use architecture and the multiplats are walking all over the x1 versions.. As the PS4 first party titles begin rolling in hot and heavy the X1 literally has no advantages. More expensive, weaker, harder to dev for, weak first party, xbox live cant hold up to PSN anymore.. Sony brought their A+ game..

MRMagoo1233734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@maniac

The curtain hasn't been removed , you have been on the xbone defense league since the console was announced. I don't think anyone had the impression that you where unbiased ever, looking at just your comments here proves without a shadow of a doubt that you are a fangirl. I mean look at your comment lol "it has already been said and proven the xbox one can do anything the ps4 can do" and "we have heard from many devs that they can achieve parity" those sentences alone prove you are in complete denial about the state of things for the xbone.
You are as bad and uninformed as kingdad.

Xbone will be behind in every multiplat there is for the entire gen unless there is underhanded dealings involved because the ps4 is factually capable of doing more than the xbone that is all there is too it

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3734d ago

That's fine. PS3 fanboys never quit on their crappy 3rd party ports and kept talking about a tidal wave that was coming every Year last gen. This gen us Xbox fans will do the same.

Not sure why it's cool for the sony fanboy to stick by his console all of last year as it get smacked around left and right in 3rd party titles, but Xbox fanboys have to quit on their new console after only a couple months.

PS fans getting cocky.. I like it. Try winning a couple years in a row of NPD's before the true smack begins. You know. .now that Sony likes to release NPD numbers again.

dantesparda3734d ago

@maniac

You aint fooling anybody, except maybe yourself.

@Midnight

You're rabid buddy, take your rabbies shot, before its to late

@KingDad

Wow! what a good MisterX disciple you are, eh? MisterX would be proud. He's thought you well. So now we all know you're easy to sucker.

dedicatedtogamers3734d ago

There are plenty of good-looking games on X1, and the fact is that X1 games look better graphically than anything on Wii, 360, or PS3 (that's not some huge stretch to admit that).

Thing is, we know X1 is inferior to PS4 in the power department. In some cases, games actually DO play differently between the two consoles. Specifically, a 30 fps game plays very different than a 60 fps game. That's a fact. Anyone saying otherwise needs to adjust their fanboy goggles.

Microsoft needs to swallow their pride. They don't have to "admit" they are weaker than Sony. Maniac is correct: no company would do that.

HOWEVER, Microsoft needs to shut up about all this power stuff. X1 is NOT as powerful as PS4, no matter how you spin it. It's the spin that needs to stop. Just show off your games. Show off Forza 5 compared to Forza 4. Show off Dead Rising 3 vs DR2. Show off Halo 5 compared to Halo 4. X1 doesn't have to be better-looking than PS4. Simply show off games to your fanbase and they'll buy it. But trying to beat Sony in the multiplats department is a lost cause, no matter how you look at it.

GribbleGrunger3734d ago

It's as if none of you know what's going on here. Look, MS tried to pretend there wasn't a difference between the systems and even went on Gaf to suggest the X1 was 'perhaps' a little more powerful.

Regardless of dev and dev confirming the PS4 was more powerful, regardless of the specs stating it's more powerful, regardless of the games proving it's more powerful, the conversation continues. And why is that? Because MS have created a narrative for their fans to run with, and they're prepared to let it continue.

But this is creating a fanbase that appears to ignore proof that has gone before and take each piece of proof as if it's the first. It's as if they don't know the concept of 'accumulative' information that once and for all proves something a fact.

This cycle of denial will continue unless MS puts a stop to it and the only way they can do that is to admit once and for all that there console is weaker. This will put a stop to the denial, lessen the articles about the power difference, stop journalists from constantly asking devs about the power difference, put an end to silly sites like MisterXmedia and lessen the pressure on their fanbase.

If they don't then for the next 5 - 7 years the X1 fanbase will get ridiculed and slaughtered in the press and on forums and Sony/Nintendo fans will LOVE it! MS are hanging their fanbase out too dry.

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UncleGermrod3735d ago

I didn't think it was odd. He actually gave us an honest answer. Clearly he knows some of the in-house stuff may reach 1080/60 (Halo, maybe?), but also is aware that the console just will not hit 1080 consistently. Isn't that what we all have kind of known already? I bet we will see more games reach it, but it will never happen at the same frequency as with PS4.

Spencer tends to give realistic and honest answers. If he had said "more game will reach 1080..blah blah blah", than the internet would have just attacked him and said he speaking "fud" or w.e. you guys call it. I would rather him just be honest, save face, and move on to other topics.

Axios23735d ago

and 3rd party

X1 native 1080p
Forza
Stryder
NFS
UFC
FIFA
Halo CA
Dying Light
Kinect Sports Rivals
NBA
TombRaider
Rayman

AceBlazer133735d ago

To bad so many on your list aren't native 1080p huh Axios ? Stick to the 'it doesn't matter' approach bud, you'll feel better.

Axios23735d ago

@ Ace

like I said, EVERY one of those games is NATIVE 1080p

http://ca.ign.com/wikis/xbo...

scott1823735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

^^

Not all those are in native 1080p...
Does tomb raider count? It has fluctuating resolutions on the x1, It drops to 900 and back.

DJ3734d ago

Tomb Raider was 900p on Xbox One.

DigitalRaptor3734d ago

@ Axios2

Some of those games aren't native 1080p, consistently at the very least.

And close to 100% of that list does not justify any kind of next-generation label.

Wizard_King3734d ago

@Axios2

b-b-b-but all those games suck?

I wouldn't waste a single hard earned cent on any of those average titles.

Maybe dying light on PC but on X1 she will be 720p you wait...

Madock3734d ago

just a technical question, does that mean Wii u's more powerfull than the xbone as it can display a game like Mario Kart in 1080 & 60fps native

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stuna13735d ago

The 1080p 60fps argument is about to go the way of the dodo bird! So everyone might as well stick a fork in it, because it's done.

This is not me saying, that the 1080p 60fps conundrum is an absolute scenario, because it's not! This has already been proven to not be the case, since there are already games now running at 1080p 60fps on the Xbox1! And guess what there will be more in the future. Developers will learn to focus on the Xbox1 strengths and they will get good plain and simple, but there there will be disparities between the 2 consoles, with one always being stronger than the other.

The fact that one being stronger than the other is not a death sentence either, but the ball in Microsoft's side of the court, and it now their time to be upfront and forthcoming with all the beating around the bush as to what their trying to sell to the consumer, even if it's just an idea.

BG115793735d ago

It could have not been an issue, if MS didn't use so often at the latest E3...

kewlkat0073735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

"Hints Sakaguchi RPG"

All I cared about...don't give a rats @ss about 1080p @ 60fps..

I'm currently playing Final Fantasy 9 on the PS Vita/PS3. Yes, it's better than most jrpg crap out today and it's not 1080p@60fps.

Lost Odyssey 2, make it happen. I remember when I got the 360 I played like 3 different Jrpgs early in it's life.

stuna13734d ago

But I'm sure you didn't buy a Vita with the intention of playing 1080p 60fps games on it! Nor is it one of its selling point! That comparison comes off as kind of irrelevant don't you think?

On the other hand I can confidently say that a large number of gamers have bought into this generation of consoles with the hopes that 1080p 60fps will become the new standard on consoles.

kewlkat0073734d ago

I'm quite aware of what the Vita can do graphically but I was just pointing out I'm playing a PS1 game and having a blast..The resolution means nothing to me because of.

At the end of the day, that is what it is about. If you want top resolution from every console game you'll be disappointed. Get a PC.

There will always be trade-offs.

Lord Anubis3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

what?
But Microsoft said they would have 4k games. While Sony said they couldn't output 4k gaming, only video.

Wizard_King3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

I'm sure the X1 can do doodle jump in 4k...

Maybe /s

EDIT: maybe at 14fps lolololol

moparful993734d ago

Please tell me you're being sarcastic Lord.. Its been common knowledge for sometime now that the memory bandwidthneeded for games to be rendered in 4k arent possible in consoles at this time.. they both only can output 4k video resolutions..

Lord Anubis3734d ago

of course i was being sarcastic. When sony announced they couldn't rendered 4k games. Microsoft quickly raised their chest and shout it. Look at us we can do 4k gaming. Look at the pity state they are in. I almost feel sorry for them. They don't even know where they are going.

http://www.cnet.com.au/conf...

ovnipc3734d ago

M$ spend a billion developing a new console and could not get it right. Or they are planning to offload resources to the claud and its not happening. The kiniect its cool and all but i prefer a stronger console specially if they want to have a 10 years life spam. 1080p its the standard today 2014 on 2017 or even sooner the standard will be 4k. This its bull crap. Sorry guys im just disappointed. Sorry for my english.

otherZinc3734d ago

Forza 5, 1080p "native" @ 60fps.
The only next-generation game doing both!

MRMagoo1233734d ago

Next generation game lol as if forza 5 couldn't have been the exact same game on the 360 , all they did was remove everything to achieve that.

Lord Anubis3734d ago

i'm not filled in on the joke of only native 1080p game. Could someone explain it further?

mixelon3734d ago

Off the top of my head - Strider? Injustice? 60fps/1080p there are probably more i don't know about.

pyramidshead3734d ago

Yes but at great cost. It's very clear there was a massive bait and switch from Forza 5 reveal in May and then at E3 to its eventual release.

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BallsEye3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

What lack? There is plenty of 1080p games on XO. Get your info straight. Misleading title.

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Spurg3735d ago

There is a possible Sakaguchi RPG for X1 and people of debating about resolutions....wow...

LOGICWINS3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

N4G stopped being about games long ago. Its about rabid fandom and "taking sides" in an invisible war. Resolution debates only serve to fuel the stupidity. We've known for a while now that the XB1 will never be able to match the PS4 in terms of the amount of titles that run at 1080p. Why are we still discussing a topic thats already been settled?

candy_mafia3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

Any JRPG should help get some Xbox One's into Japanese homes, but.....

@LOGICWINS

'We've known for a while now that the XB1 will never be able to match the PS4 in terms of the amount of titles that run at 1080p'

Should be....

'We've known for a while now that the XB1 will never be able to match the PS4 in terms of raw power'.

Now it's settled :)

NeoTribe3735d ago

Proxy war... war never changes...

Ashunderfire863735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

#LOGICWIN

You live up to your title sir, here is a bubble for intelligent comment.

Logic always wins.

deepio3735d ago

Can't agree more @LOGICWINS. But, much as I would love it if everyone just moved on, I've got a feeling we'll have to endure this same old story for this entire generation. Fanboys just love it too much for it to die.

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N4GDgAPc3735d ago

I won't buy a xbone, but if Lost Odessy 2 is annouced then microsoft can take my money.

kingdom183734d ago

That and a Fable game would be the sole incentive for me to purchase and Xbox One, and why I probably will.

Kiwi663734d ago

huh ? sorry just a bit confused so you won't buy a xb1 but you will if that game comes out on it

N4GDgAPc3734d ago

Yes. I already know the next game he will make will be Nintendo or Xbox. He will never make a game for Playstation unless he can swallow his pride. In a interview he litterly said I hate the father of the playstation which is why he won't make it for PS. Which ironicly the father of the playstation was retired at the time. And I think his has an issue with sony also.

LAWSON723735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

I remember when console gamers used to say we have better games not resolutions. Now PS4 gamers act like they are better than a PC elitist and Xbone gamers are just playing defensive and trying to look forward to games no matter what the res.

LOGICWINS3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

"Now PS4 gamers act like they are better than a PC elitist and Xbone gamers are just playing defensive and trying to look forward to games no matter what the res."

You mean "PS4 fanboys". GAMERS don't act like this. I'm a satisfied PS4 owner and I think most of the so called PS4 "gamers" on this site are straight up insane. They view the console market as the equivalent of a WWE Championship match or Gundam Battle, foaming at the mouth at articles titled "PS4 Launches in Japan: The Final Blow to the Xbox One?"

SteamPowered3735d ago

"PS4 owners act like they are better than a pc elitist" you nailed it there pal. I'm not an "elitist" but as a pc and consile gamer, i think the resolution wars are funny.

Hicken3735d ago

I remember when Xbone gamers were acting like a handful of pixels and a grass texture meant the world, but only as it pertained to multiplats. Now they either pretend like graphics don't matter, or that the PS4 having better graphics is irrelevant because PC does better... as if PC has ever belonged in a console argument.

MysticStrummer3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

What Hicken said.

Also, you're leaving out the part where for months XBox fans told us about the secret sauce/extra GPU/cloud power. The vocal ones were telling us about all that stuff for more than six months ahead of launch, and the consoles haven't even been out that long. Hell, before the reveals some were saying Sony couldn't afford to make a more powerful console than MS. It's not about higher resolution making games "better", it's about a difference in power that many on here still won't admit, and about a weaker console being more expensive. Logicwins up there asked why we're still talking about it, and at least part of the answer is because some of the more high profile MS honor guard on here are still in a very vocal denial mode. Tell them to stop arguing about it and making the overall group look insane, and I think at least some of this stuff will die down relatively soon.

In a nutshell, the rest of you are getting your noses rubbed in it because of guys like greenpowerz.

CoLD FiRE3734d ago

@Hicken

Really! That's your argument? This is the reason N4G is such a joke because people like you take this personally and all the trolling as some form of payback. So because some fanboys did it a few years ago, you must become a fanboy and do the same thing and then the cycle of stupidity continues, and in 7 years when new consoles are released and the other camp has the more powerful console they go on offense and you go in defense and this stupid fanboy so-called war never ends.

And no, if you want to continue on your crazy fanboy war you can't just conveniently take the PC out of the equation like it doesn't exist just so you can preach your propaganda.

CrossingEden3734d ago

PS4 fanboys are starting to make me HATE the fact that I chose it over the xb1. Despite having a 360, seriously, it's almost daily now that I get told that I don't even own a ps4 when I objectively criticize ps4 games.

jessupj3734d ago

I find it interesting and a little pathetic and hypocritical that everyone''s complaining about the horrible sony fanboys when they're the ones actually speaking the truth, albeit sometimes in an immature way.

We all know the facts now and the multiplatform games show it, but amazingly some people are still in denial and it's pathetic.

Maybe instead of complaining teh sony fanboyz so much you could try to bring back the people living in their own fantasy world. Then maybe all these articles and bragging could stop.

I'm an avid sony fan, but I feel no need to shove the resolution gap in peoples faces. But when someone says the technical gap is only slight I'm going to call them out on it.

All fanboys are blind and annoying, so maybe some of you could focus on all groups of fanboys instead of hypocritically calling out one specific faction. Then maybe I'd take you more seriously.

cozomel3734d ago

Look at them cry (the xbox fanboys). Dont get mad at the so called sony fanboys because ms gave you a crap system to deal with. Yeah, yeah, i know, "the games", when ms gets them, let me know. Cuz all they have right now are vastly inferior multiplats and techincally unimpressive exclusives. Now stop whining.

LAWSON723734d ago

"techincally unimpressive exclusives"

You fanboys kill me.

Hicken3734d ago

@Cold Fire: I don't really take it personally. I give as good as I get. One of my coworkers is a HUGE Xbox fan, and we talk trash all the time; I don't hold any grudges against him. I've made a LOT of friends from working at GameStop, and many of them prefer Xbox. Our different gaming preferences don't hinder our relationships.

The truth: there will always be a "console war" so long as there are different consoles and people prefer one over the other. You might as well get over that, because that's human nature. There are "car wars," music wars, "TV show wars;" conflict over differences is a part of us. It can sometimes get outta control, but as long as you're NOT taking things personally, it's alright, isn't it? We don't have to like the same things, right?

PC is not a factor. Why? Because it's not a console. That's the simple truth there. Consoles are not PCs- well, they ARE, sorta- and PCs are not consoles. If we're debating Xbox versus Nintendo versus PlayStation, what the hell does a custom gaming PC have to do with it? Especially since not every custom gaming PC is created equal... like every Xbox, every PlayStation, and every Nintendo. That's part of what sets consoles apart from PCs. But you already know all this.

@CrossingEden: If you were ACTUALLY objectively criticizing, and not blatantly trolling, people might take you seriously. But you've had the same agenda since before either new console launched, and I don't think anybody is in the dark as to what that is.

@LAWSON: Take Forza as an example. Yes, it ticks off the 1080p and 60fps boxes, but it's not exactly doing much with those performance numbers. Is that a fanboy statement?

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maniacmayhem3735d ago

I am pretty sure that each of these Phil comments has be submitted as a separate story to N4G already.

OC_MurphysLaw3735d ago

No doubt each answer has its own story. I am sure the word "NO" as some point will also get its own story. Its the nature of N4G these days.

christocolus3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@maniacmayhem

Why, why......... :(

Kiwi663734d ago

probably as apparently anyone that works for or is somehow connected to microsoft lies

tapaz3735d ago

A variety of resolutions? Way to avoid the hard truth Phil.

Shad0wRunner3735d ago

Um..no. PS4 only has 2 games sub 1080/60, which was developer discretion. Not hardware bottleneck. PS4, SO FAR...has been more consistent getting games up to 1080/60 than XBox One has.

So dont even try putting the PS4 in the same boat as the XBox One. LOL.

sorane3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

Uhh you should look again Shadow because that's not even close to the truth. In fact I'm having a hard time thinking of any games out at 1080p/60. Maybe that basketball game or outlast, but neither of them are graphical powerhouses.

sorane3735d ago

Love the shadow disagrees, yet not one person has the balls to try(I stress try because you can't) prove me wrong. Can't say I'm very surprised on this site.

scott1823735d ago

As far as resolution is concerned, the PS4 is very consistent with 1080p, there are only a few examples of slightly less. Like the order being a single step below, but having 4MLAA...

Allsystemgamer3734d ago

^ only game that isn't is bf4 it's 900p where the Xbone is at 720p.

Nice try though

zerog3734d ago

@sorane. http://m.ign.com/wikis/xbox...

Here's a link for you, I only count 4 x1 games 1080p 60fps and 10 on ps4. So you "CAN" be proven wrong after all huh? The truth is out there.

sorane3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@zerog

Nice try but that list is wrong. It says games like Tomb Raider,Killzone,CoD, and even BF4 are 60fps when they aren't. The ones that aren't even released can't be proven one way or the other. Nice try though.

"The truth is out there."

You're right about that. I just wish you knew what it was.

ABizzel13734d ago

@sorane

I think the / in 1080/60fps means that games are either running in 1080p or at least 60fps.

Not every game is running 1080p @ 60fps. Even the article states it that way, as we know not every game on PS4 is 1080p @ 60fps.

moparful993734d ago

Even when proven wrong Sorane can't swallow his pride and admit he's wrong.. Its cool 5.2 million people and counting know the truth.. ignorance smh

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DiRtY3735d ago

"Leaving aside few handful of games on PS4 almost every title runs at 1080p/60 FPS resolution"

LoL that is so not true (well some 2D indie games) most of the major games don't run at 1080/60FPS on PS4 either.

Most of the games are 1080p / 30 FPS like Thief, Watchdog, InFamous or Assassin's Creed. And there are even PS4 games that do not get 1080p at all like Battlefield 4 or The Witcher.

MaxwellBuddha3735d ago

Bastard! How DARE you remind everyone the PS4 is not a "beast"! XD

Sarcasm3735d ago

If the PS4 isn't a beast, the what does that make the Xbox One? A hamster?

kickerz3734d ago

I like to play with my hamster every night...

daedra3734d ago

Nah the one is the beast, ps4s just a gerbil

Hyper_Tension1403734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@daedra

Care to explain why? Im all ears.

razrye3734d ago

Typical daedra. Can't answer a straight question.

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Evilsnuggle3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

DiRtY
Now xboys can tell the future. No one knows the resolution of watch dogs. But you can't see that xBone Hardware will struggle On the most simplistic cartoon Graphics like plants vs zombies GW. The xbone will be inferior to the PS4 the entire next gen due to its weak hardware. It's been three months of the PS4 and already every 3rd party multiplatform games is superior on PS4. It's funny how you feel that is a bad thing that " Most of the games are 1080p / 30 FPS " what does that make the xbone when the majority of there games are in 720p xbone fanBoys Are so hypocritical.
The PS4 has Double the game the confirmed games in 1080p 60fps than xBone. Every game on xbOne that is in 1080p 60fps is a sports game the easiest games to render with static environments and static graphics. no open world next-gen 3D games on xbone. Xbone flagship game Titanfail looks last gen and is in 792p The Last Of Us a PS3 game destroys A supposably next gen game Titanfail in Graphics.

DiRtY3735d ago

Forza 5 is 1080p / 60 FPS for example.

And please quote me where I said that 1080p / 30 FPS is bad. You won't find it, because I never did. You are making things up again.

It is not the graphics why everybody loves Titanfall. It is the gameplay. And if you played the Beta, you would agree. And it is funny that you mention The Last of Us. The last of Us was 720p / 30 FPS and everybody seemed to love it and praised its visuals. Now a game is 900p / 60 FPS and you guys act like it is the worst thing happen to gaming.

I like good looking games like everybody does, but right now there seems to be a time when everybody put visuals over gameplay and that is just wrong IMO.

I still think Halo 4, Gears of War or The Last of Us look great btw. Somehow I don't think that last years games are bad, just because I play on a new hardware.

I am even one of those strange guys that sees the artstyle as the most important point regarding the visuals. Crazy, heh?

At the end of the day the resolution is just... well... resolution.

Software_Lover3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

@Dirty

The thing that has me confused is that they aren't even putting visuals before gameplay. The games are looking good, although Forza 5 did have a downgrade. They are putting Resolution before gameplay. WTF is up with that.

My take on it though is this: If the situations were reversed, concerning Microsoft/Sony, it would probably be the same thing.

PC gamers all around the world play games. PC gamers all around the world play the same games at different resolutions but have the same great time. I think if Microsoft were to drop the price of the X1 to say 350.00 without the Kinect, most of the fuss would go away.

DigitalRaptor3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@ Software_Lover

It would be the same the other way around, because IT WAS.

These Xboys were doing the same thing last-gen they consistently hate on now. But the difference is, the disparity here is far larger and worthy of conversation. It seems to me that the Xbox fanboy crowd can give it, but simply cannot take it. Look at how awkwardly quiet the Lens Of Truth website is now. ;)
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@ DiRtY

This is a new generation. Downplaying standards that were expected from last-gen technology and say that it's fine is pretty pathetic. Saying that it's "ok" is the kind of attitude that would've made Microsoft do what they did. But how could they have estimated their audience so wrongly? How could they actually believe the hardcore wouldn't care about fidelity? Because most of us do, especially when we're dealing with new hardware - and before these consoles were even announced, we were talking about their specs more than their games.

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with preferring gameplay over graphics, but they are not mutually exclusive - so right now, you don't have to "prefer" anything. PS4 will continue to have both, but it will have the opportunity to exceed in BOTH areas.

Microsoft's brain-dead design choices (to try and go for a non-gaming audience) have handicapped their console for this entire generation technologically, and believe me, if the situation was reversed you'd be laughing at the PS4's inferior specification and ability to hit what is a standard of a next-generation machine.

Wizard_King3734d ago

Forza 1080/60

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE LAST GEN POOP WITH LESS FEATURES THAN ITS PREDECESSOR.

b-b-b-but its 1080/60 it can do it. smh

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SasukeX163734d ago

The witcher isn't confirmed for 900p

razrye3734d ago

The only way that the x1 is a beast is by description, as in ugly pos.

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Xbox No Longer Has Its Head In The Game

Microsoft & Xbox have shut down Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks to lay off more workers, insinuating that they're not in the game anymore.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

They're headless for a long time because closing tango isn't exactly a good move

PapaBop3d ago

Ever since that cringe Kinect reveal they've never been the same. They used to make some amazing games and do great deals with third parties Early on in the 360 era they had games like Chromehounds and Shadowrun, both well ahead of their time. Now instead of nurturing their studios, they'd rather gaslight gamers and throw billions on pre existing studios. Not sure how Spencer is still in a job, I wouldn't trust him to organise a piss-up in a brewery.

Father__Merrin3d ago

We've said all along Spencer needs to go. I wish xbox went back to xbox only with new gears fable forza halo releases lots of third party releases

Those early rainbow 6 Vegas days and phantasy star universe are gone forever

S2Killinit2d ago

MS has its head in the game but the game they are playing is something different from what console gamers expect from a platform. MS’s end game has always been to use the xbox as a trojan horse.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Lol that's funny well this plan they have isn't working homie

1Victor3d ago

“Acquisitions always come with cuts”

343 trillion points shield activated
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All damage reduced to 1 for 343 trillion turns.
MICROSOFT DEFENSE FORCE IS A GO

Tacoboto3d ago

Especially for Microsoft, when Booty pretty much said they didn't know how to handle that many studios.

Why even make the acquisition then.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Didn’t they make the swipe for Bethesda when Sony wanted like 6 months exclusiveness for Starfield

It’s like…chill, you got Rise of the Tomb Raider for a year.

romulus233d ago

Do they always come with senseless cuts becasue that's exactly what cutting Tango was, senseless.

H93d ago

Everyone's acting now that game companies care about games and Xbox is committing the Ultimate betrayal, they are all like this and you have just been quiet about it for far too long

Nuclearmoon3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft do pull out of the console market that it might open the door for valve to relaunch the Steambox. Competition is good for the industry but Microsoft don't even seem to be trying anymore.

UltimateOwnage3d ago

Steam / Valve are one of the few truly pro-consumer bright spots in gaming right now. Thankfully.

Jingsing2d ago

From all the money Valve make from Steam they reinvest almost 0 into creating new AAA titles for the PC platform, Absolutely no giving nothing back in that regard. Wake up.

jwillj2k43d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Your game has won some pretty significant awards and is a show piece for where we want to go in the future.”

1 hour later.

“We’re gonna have to let you go. You can’t cover our 100 billion dollar acquisition. Oh and take your awards too 👍🏾”

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Fallout 76 Players Have Nuked Phil Spencer in Response to Studio Closures

Fallout 76 players have dropped the big one on Phil Spencer in response to Xbox's closures of Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks this week.

120°

Meet The Guy Who Just Nuked Xbox Boss Phil Spencer In Fallout 76

He said he treated the Xbox executive like the RPG's final boss

Jingsing5d ago

Somewhat fitting, Considering buying Bethesda was a complete selfish purchasing decision by himself just because he is a big Fallout fan he wanted to own the toy. Well quite frankly Microsoft should look at that and say you put your personal tastes in front of the business and it has backfired.

anast4d ago

Todd Howard out hustled Phil. Howard is definitely in the top 3 all time hustlers in video game history.

OtterX4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Phil's game character properly looks like a villain too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

Miacosa4d ago

Would be funny is P3 nuked his account temporality as a joke.