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Xbox and Bethesda talk about their future in new roundtable livestream

Leaders from Microsoft and Bethesda will talk about the future.

AngelicIceDiamond1178d ago (Edited 1178d ago )

I'm not expecting reveals trailers or gameplay but I am expecting them to tell us what's going where. Starfield has been rumored to release closer than expected for awhile so they need to tell us where that game is going. That should be their first priority during this whole stream.

RazzerRedux1178d ago

Posting this here for visibility. The timestamp in the link I posted below has changed.

"Phil Spencer talks some about exclusivity here:

https://youtu.be/YJneU_qBMP...

RazzerRedux1178d ago

Phil Spencer talks some about exclusivity here:

https://youtu.be/YJneU_qBMP...

Clears it up enough for me. My take on all of this has been speculative, but also completely wrong. Bethesda games will be exclusive to "platforms where Game Pass exist". Spencer makes caveats for existing games or contractual obligations, but he might as well said "Elder Scrolls, Starfield, Doom, Prey, etc. will no longer be on PlayStation".

That's that in my mind.

Christopher1178d ago

People are choosing to take support their game pass consumers as their main goal as to mean ignore others. Yet he specifically states in the previous sentence that they aren't closed to deals with other platforms.

"And even in the future, there might be things that have, either contractual things or legacy on different platforms that we’ll go do. But if you’re an Xbox customer, the thing I want you to know is this is about delivering great exclusive games for you, that ship on platforms, where Game Pass exists, and that’s our goal."

RazzerRedux1178d ago (Edited 1178d ago )

Right. Bethesda is going to honor contractual obligations. They will also supported older (legacy) games on whatever platforms they are on. Everything else is entirely about Game Pass. So if Bethesda already made a deal to bring Starfield to PlayStation, for example, then it will be there. (Or perhaps even the Indiana Jones game) But Spencer last sentence you quoted was emphatic about exclusive to Game Pass platforms.

gamer78041178d ago

That’s only existing deals or mmo games. If you want to play single player Bethesda games you will need a Windows PC or an Xbox.

Christopher1177d ago

"In the future... We'll go do."

It's like people are just ignoring what was said similar to how people thought MS once said no single player games.

Atom6661177d ago

Well, step 1 to reading and any Spencer quote is to try to fit it into their own confirmation bias.

While I wasn't shocked today, I did think they were much more direct than I expected. They of course left the door open for the future, but sounds like that will be the exception to rule.

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RaveTears1178d ago

Damn, Fallout 4 is the last Bethesda game that I bought on PlayStation. I guess, my wallet is going to be happy.

Zeref1178d ago

Case closed, finally. I got tired of talking about it

MrDead1178d ago

30 years of multiplatform ip's taken and locked away.

Has anyone done anything more anti-gamer than that?

Atticus_finch1178d ago

But but "Is not a monopoly"

gamer78041178d ago

they aren't really locked away, depends on how you look at it, you'll now be able to play their games on more devices than ever before. locked away from playstation yah.

Zeref1177d ago (Edited 1177d ago )

locked away? You're free to go buy it on PC or Xbox. Or subscribe to gamepass and play it via xCloud.

That's more consumer friendly than Playstation games where you absolutely have to have the console to play anything. I'm glad they're at least starting to put them on PC.

Tetsdah1176d ago

Lol, just gotta get a SeriesX down the line pretty much. That's fine. Thankfully, we are finally past "exclusives are anticonsumer " or "exclusives are counter to what gaming is about". Literally the way that the game industry has been working for decades.

But now Series X has cemented another genre for its base. I may scoop it up down the line when those games arrive.

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cbuc11251178d ago

As a PS owner this doesnt bother me at all. I never owned any Bethesda games.

shabz6661178d ago

As a ps owner too thats kind of nuts since they have some amazing games like doom and dishonored but to each their own 🤷🏽‍♂️

Ron_Danger1178d ago (Edited 1178d ago )

To each their own is right. I used to get Bethesda games day 1 but the last few years my taste in games has changed and now I only get them on deep sales. I got the newest doom and newest Wolfenstein in a combo deal and I have about 3 hours in doom and 2 hours in Wolfenstein... neither clicked for me. I’m just not that into a character being a badass as a story point. My fiancée is gonna be a little annoyed though because she has around 1000 hours of PS4 Skyrim with multiple character builds.

Julion07151178d ago

Kool story so why are you here?

gamer78041178d ago

You should say as someone who doesn’t like any Bethesda games.... because having a ps has nothing to do with whether you like a game or not. Or atleast it shouldn’t.

Jericho13371178d ago

Fair enough, but plenty have and would if they were third party.

Having said that, I keep getting told by PS owners that you all have high speed gaming PCs so I suppose you’ve got nothing to worry about.

enkiduxiv1177d ago

High Speed isn't really necessary for Bethesda games. Maybe for ID and Arkane. I can't imagine that anything made on that god awful Creation engine would struggle to work on a GTX 780.

Atticus_finch1178d ago

The only bethesda game I ever bought was FO4. So I feel the same I won't really miss them considering now that they will be making GP games. But it really hurts the industry to have a well established big publisher be bought out to make rental games.

OptimusDK1177d ago

You must be very special then or just plain stupid.

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Highrevz1178d ago

I almost skipped on watching it but glad I didn’t.

-20 Bethesda titles dropping on Gamepass tomorrow.

-A new Bethesda game coming this summer.

- If your platform supports Gamepass, there’s no need to worry about exclusives.

- more FPS Boost titles are in the works.

CaptainHenry9161178d ago

- If your platform supports Gamepass, there’s no need to worry about exclusives.

What about the price increase for gamepass in the future. Microsoft needs to make profit someway.

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Highrevz1178d ago

I don’t pay a penny for gamepass ultimate as I use Microsoft rewards But if the contents there then I’d be happy to pay the right price.
It’s already a great offer as it is but I’m able to lock in 3 years worth so even a ridiculous price increase isn’t going to effect me anytime soon.

Honestly the price isn’t going to increase and if it does it would only be by a small amount.

Your far to “proud” to be using gamepass anyway so whats it to you🤷‍♂️ There’s no negatives here for you to get hard over.

ocelot071178d ago

@MadDestruction

Is that 100% facts or pulled out your backside? What about the people like my self who only pay £1 a month? Or the people who bought bought a load of cheap Xbox live codes and converted them to gamepass ultimate and are now set for the next 3 years?

Atticus_finch1177d ago

$100 million
Minus all the 3rd party games they have to pay for
Minus ads
Minus Discounted or free accounts
Minus 7.5 billion
Minus maintenance
And whatever else I missed.

ReadyPlayer221177d ago

Hey Atticus, you know how much money Sony and Microsoft make off of microtransactions? Because theybeach get a cut of every single transaction. 18 million+ paying customers is massive

jbull1177d ago (Edited 1177d ago )

@MadDestruction, that's not a whole pile of money when you factor in taxes, the employees Microsoft has now under MS studios and Bethesda and AAA games development cost.

343_Guilty_Spark1177d ago

How much do you spend on games a year?

$15 times 12 month is $160 per year which is the same as buying two and a half full-priced PS5 games

Making a big deal about nothing.

CaptainHenry9161177d ago

@343

Expect a 10-15 dollar price increase for gamepass by the end of the year. Xbox game division aren't making any money or profits from gamepass. Aaron Greenberg already mentioned that

CaptainHenry9161177d ago

@343

Xbox gamepass is mostly just old games though

343_Guilty_Spark1177d ago (Edited 1177d ago )

I should expect a price increase based on what? XBL has barely increased in price for almost 15 years

Games aren't old if you've never played them. You play every game though right?

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot0713h ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda7h ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

XiNatsuDragnel6h ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer23h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning7721h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv7221h ago(Edited 21h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning7717h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot23h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv7221h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC19h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno19h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier16h ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

Sciurus_vulgaris21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier16h ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn3h ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

Elda16h ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer9h ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

PhillyDonJawn3h ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus233h ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda1h ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

Asplundh48m ago

Crash 4 was good, so I'm hopeful.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein2d ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear211d 5h ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

qalpha15h ago

I'm sure Keith will be happy to hear he's a millennial journalist.

Goodguy011d 9h ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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