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Obsidian Is Becoming Bethesda Since Bethesda Stopped Being Bethesda

EM: With the announcement of Avowed and after the success of The Outer Worlds, Obsidian Entertainment is a better Bethesda than Bethesda.

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RaidenBlack1407d ago

They long surpassed Bethesda with New Vegas.
Now Avowed will romple stomp Starfield.

King_Noctis1407d ago

With the news that the next Elder Scroll still use Bestheda’s outdated Creation engine, I think Avowed will have a really good chance of becoming the new Elder Scroll for fans.

RaidenBlack1407d ago

If Elder Scrolls and Creation Engine is to be defended here ... then I can add, from what i've read thus far, the devs are overhauling the ageing engine to much degree by including much photogrammetry assets, just like Infinity Ward did with their old engine.
But the boatload of bugs Bethesda will introduce in the process is upto anyone's imagination.

Darkborn1407d ago

@Raidenblack I feel like Bethesda doesn't want to change the engine because they are used to fixing the same bugs at this point. Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 had some of the exact same bugs at launch. It's easier for them to crunch them it seems like even though it takes them years to do. I hate their engine and even when skyrim initially launched, like 15 launches ago, it still seemed kinda dated to me.

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neutralgamer19921407d ago

King

You and few others have been working extra hard defending Ms last few days

On topic

We will have to wait and see. Bethesda failed with 76 but they have a new IP and than 2 sequels afterwards (ES and Fallout)

Maybe I am in the minority but I liked fallout 3 more than new Vegas but I wasn't a big fan of fallout 4. I felt like it was less of an RPG

Games obsidian showed are years away from release so we will see

Kados1407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

@RaidenBlack:

Visuals have never really been the issue with it. It is the underlying bugs and lack of features that is at issue, and none of that can be fixed. Notice there has never been ladder climbing animations in an Elder Scrolls game? The engine physically cannot do it. Creation has already been "overhauled" twice since Morrowind came out in 2002. It was called NetImmerse back then, it was rebadged to Gamebryo for Oblivion, and now they call it Creation. All are the same engine, all have the same underlying issues.

Their official excuse for why they have not changed it is that the PC modding community is too used to it and would have a hard time adapting to a new engine. As a modder on PC myself, it is BS.

King_Noctis1406d ago

“ You and few others have been working extra hard defending Ms last few days ”

How is it any different from people like you going into every MS’s article and downplay them?

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averagejoe261407d ago

Unfortunately, most of the employees who made New Vegas no longer work at Obsidian. They're barely the same company. You can really tell when you play Outer Worlds. It didn't hold a candle to the writing in New Vegas.

Deathdeliverer1407d ago

Wayyyy too early to say some half baked shit like this.

King_Noctis1407d ago

When was the last good game Bethesda has developed?

King_Noctis1407d ago

@Logic

Doom Eternal was developed by id Software, not in-house by Bethesda.

pwnmaster30001407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

Lol when did I ever say Bethesda was trash and the “bad guy”.... don’t worry I’ll wait.

Deathdeliverer1407d ago

I loved Skyrim. Liked oblivion. Loved Morrowwind. Liked Fallout 4. Dishonored I liked, Deathloop looks very fun, and Wolfenstein was actually good. Obsidian made outer worlds and gave a 20 sec trailer that showed a concept, not anything actual, and it’s better than Bethesda? Seriously? New Vegas was the last game they made that I liked similarly to fallout 4. I think people are just too eager to like something. You need something to justify things so you’re elevating that game wayyy to high. I’m interested in avowed, but seeing nothing and saying it’s better than the work of a company like Bethesda off of a ONE recent game and a concept? Seriously people?

DOMination-1407d ago

Strange question... Well technically Fallout 76 wasn't in house either. The last great game they made was the last one.. Fallout 4.

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AngelicIceDiamond1407d ago

Bet if it was on another console youll be bowing and praising.

pwnmaster30001407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

I mean let’s be honest here, the same can be said with you if it was the others way around.

Lol but reading your comments you like to play the “Xbox fanboys are a victim role and Sony Fans are the worse”.

medman1407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

@angelicicediamond
You're off the mark for one simple reason...Sony showed games at their event that for the most part are due in the launch year window of the ps5. Microsoft showed no gameplay, just trailers, for first party titles that are ALL still very early in development.

When will Avowed be released? 2023? 2024? 2025? Forza? Still so early in development all they had was in engine footage. Everwild? Rare is on record stating they don't even know what the game is yet....they still haven't decided on gameplay mechanics. State of Decay? It's in pre-production. Fable? Perhaps as far away from release as Avowed.

It's not about "bowing and praising"....there is some harsh reality that so many of these games (which could be very good, but without gameplay who the hell knows) are so so far from the light of day. Without seeing gameplay, it is super early to be touting any of these games to be the next so and so. They've showed nothing but concept. And we've all seen games, particularly from Microsoft, where concept doesn't equal gameplay, and worse yet, many titles canceled, some of which we HAVE seen gameplay for. Do you remember people being so excited for Scalebound? I remember clearly arguments back and forth in these same forums with xbox only gamers boasting about how much better Scalebound would be than Horizon Zero Dawn. Yikes. Let's stop putting the cart before the horse. These companies need to prove, before we praise.

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pwnmaster30001407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

I agree, I can’t wait for Bethesda’s next game so they can shut all the haters up..
Been a fan since playing Morrowind on the original Xbox. Good times.

I like Obsidian and I think their next games will be good but let’s get real

TheOptimist1407d ago

Skyrim, Fallout 4 and especially Fallout 76 were crap though.

King_Noctis1407d ago

So suddenly Bestheda is a good guy now, even after the Fallout 76 and Elder Scroll Blade bs that they have pulled.

As long as you’re against MS, even a turd can be turned into gold it seems.

Imalwaysright1406d ago

Real about what? Obsidian surpassed them even at what they do best as New Vegas is better than Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.

Atom6661407d ago

Is it? I'd say we've known that once Fallout 4 and 76 failed to outdo New Vegas.

Even with a fraction of the budget, Outer Worlds was better than 4 imo.

Hell, I'd say Stick of Truth was better than what we got from Bethesda this gen. Unless we see ID Software in the credits and it'sjust published by Bethesda, how can we really defend much of their overall output this gen?

averagejoe261407d ago

Outer Worlds was so boring and generic. The people who wrote New Vegas don't even work at Obsidian anymore. It's obvious. The Outer Worlds did not do well with fans or critics.

Atom6661406d ago

Seems to have done pretty well according to reviews (both critic and user).

DerfDerf1407d ago

@Deathdeliverer

Dishonored, Deathloop and Wolfenstein aren't developed by Bethesda.

King_Noctis1407d ago (Edited 1407d ago )

I think he got confused between “develop” and “publish”.

WelkinCole1406d ago

Was there any gameplay footage of Avowed that I didn't see?

Deathdeliverer1406d ago

Zero, but people are absolutely blown away. By a concept. I’m actuality it’s could look and play like a broken bus, butttttt it’s incredible based on future vision.

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RazzerRedux1407d ago

I certainly hope so. I want more games like Elder Scrolls as there are just not enough true fantasy RPGs. Bethesda should have had another Elder Scrolls by now but with the way Fallout 76 turned out, it may be a good thing they haven't. If Obsidian can take MS funding and fill that void then I'm all for it.

phoenixwing1407d ago

yeah if they can make something at the same level of the outer worlds or better in an elder scrolls like package i'll buy it

jambola1407d ago

That's a bit mean don't you think?
I'm pretty sure obsidian aren't starting to release outdated buggy crap, right?

Vanfernal1407d ago

Saying Obsidian is becoming Bethesda is not a compliment. Bethesda has always made games with lots of content that somehow always got a free pass even though they were buggy messes. When Bethesda released a game with no content (Fallout 76) and people could see the bare bones job Bethesda does, they wised up to their lack of quality and started seeing them for what they are.

RamRod881407d ago

They're referring to when Bethesda actually made good games people wanted. Not current Bethesda. Obsidian is now seems to be the ones filling in the role of old Bethesda.

starchild1407d ago

I loved Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic and the Mass Effect trilogy. They used to be great.

Vanfernal1407d ago

That's Bioware dude. Bethesda is Elder Scrolls/Fallout etc lol.

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot0713h ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda7h ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

XiNatsuDragnel6h ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer23h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning7721h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv7221h ago(Edited 21h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning7717h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot23h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv7221h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC19h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno19h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier16h ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

Sciurus_vulgaris21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier16h ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn3h ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

Elda16h ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer9h ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

PhillyDonJawn3h ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus233h ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda1h ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

Asplundh52m ago

Crash 4 was good, so I'm hopeful.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein2d ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear211d 6h ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

qalpha15h ago

I'm sure Keith will be happy to hear he's a millennial journalist.

Goodguy011d 9h ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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