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Kinect - What Microsoft's Doing Right

Dick Ward writes: "It’s easy to bag on Microsoft for Kinect – formerly “Project Natal.” It’s a popular whipping boy, and with plenty of good reason. It’s about as far from traditional gaming as you can get, it’s Microsoft’s attempt to jump on the Wii bandwagon, it’s not for hardcore games and, of course, you’ll look really stupid playing it.

But we know all that. Rather than beating a horse that’s been presumed dead even before leaving the stable, let’s take a look at what Microsoft’s doing right with its motion control system."

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B-Real2065094d ago

wait till gamescon! then it's on!

GWAVE5094d ago (Edited 5094d ago )

But Microsoft said they were bring the big guns to E3 this year. So, you're going to simply believe them again?

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Exactly. No one likes to wait. Especially if they were told they wouldn't have to wait...

D4RkNIKON5094d ago (Edited 5094d ago )

Wait till E3, Wait till Gamescon, Wait till Release, Wait till the devs get used to it
.... patiently waiting is fun. I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them.

HolyOrangeCows5094d ago

"I just don't see why core gamers defend this crap because it is obviously not meant for them"

Over 40 million people, that includes myself, who didn't buy the 360 for Kinect have full right to be annoyed that Microsoft is diverting most of its attention to Kinect and non-gaming features.

Parapraxis5094d ago

40 million plus 1.
Got an Elite today.
Guess what, Kinect is STILL sh*t.

B-Real2065094d ago

Whatever I was being sarcastic, jeez.

Mista T5094d ago (Edited 5094d ago )

Kinect, what is it good for, absolutely nothing!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gladiator75094d ago

Microsoft is going to be the next Nintendo, but with worse casual games.
hate when they ignoring the hardcores gamers, i mean they just giving more halo,gears of war,fable games. they giving so much limited experiences.

KILLERAPP5094d ago

“ If you’re looking for a four-player experience on the Wii, that’s $40 for each controller and $20 for each nunchuck, plus the cost of the Wii, which comes to $440. The PS3 Move costs even more.”… Show me a game on Natal that comes out of this year’s E3 press conference that four players play together at the same time, you can’t because I haven’t seen one, natal is mostly two player at the same time, cause you will have a huge room to have 4 people playing at the same time and I don’t see it maybe in a few games but you can’t compare the move or the wii to it and two player playing at the same time with the move or wii cost about the same as natal so you lose your point…

-Alpha5094d ago (Edited 5094d ago )

I think that that argument is decent. The problem though, is that when it comes to local multiplayer, I don't buy all the controllers. I have friends who bring over their own controllers, and I assume that if they buy the Move they'll do the same for that.

We additionally still have no price for Kinect and the fact still remains that Move is a better device. MS may have done local multiplayer right by endorsing family gaming, but it just doesn't interest me.

MS is doing all the right things for Kinect from a business sense. They have a core audience and know the core audience likes the Halo, CoD, etc.

They have that audience, and now want to reach out with Kinect. However, the obstacle for success still remains:

-No price tag
-No guarantee casuals will buy it (they may very well buy it, I'm sure they'll prefer it over Move anyway)
-The Wii is still a strong device for casual gamers so the competition is there

Still, MS could succeed with Kinect, but it will be for a new audience. We already have it (apparently) outselling Move on Amazon, which was totally expected. I mean, it's a device that is aimed at a bigger, broader audience and it's advertised as a social tool to chat with friends, watch movies, and play family games.

outrageous5094d ago

M$ has gone about this the right way. They know who their Kinect demographic is and are moving fast in that direction. Many developers are working on apps. It's only been around a year and are coming to grips with the tech.

Why announce a price when the device is not out for several months. It was a shrewd business decision and and it worked. Sony has said $399 for a bundle. No Wii consumers are gonna buy that and now it's generated a " it's like the Wii but costs twice as much backlash " argument.

The your shape Ubisoft fitness app is gonna be a big Kinect mover. The dance game promises crazy dance routines from great, well known instructors to some of the best music around. It's made by MTV. Kinectanimals and sports will keep kids entertain for hours. C'mon...did you see her play hide N seek, having 2 children my self I'll tell you that game is a winner...BIG, BIG sellers, more importantly, it will move 360's. that is the whole idea.

Check out this video of the Ubisoft presentation. My wife said she wanted it right away...look how precise and accurate it measures the lady...the menu's, the options...Wii Fit outsold MW2, this could be HUGE...no controller, just a wave of your hand. This is just the first gen for Kinect. The apps will get better. GDC will be awesome this year for all.

hazeblaze5094d ago

The thing about Kinect is that I haven't seen any games that I would enjoy playing with just one player, yet alone two or more! The technology has potential but it doesn't seem like developers have wrapped their head around it yet. And playing games without anything in my hands, or physical feedback, just is not appealing.

DA_SHREDDER5094d ago

The only thing Microsoft has ever done right was created Xbox live. Other than that its just a box, a remote, and 3rd party handler.

Megahurtz19865094d ago

At GamesCon they will be unveiling Kinectamils 2 featuring Snikcers the baby Wolf

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies3d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX3d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody3d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_3d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga3d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly3d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga3d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit3d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_3d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies3d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19728d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv727d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19727d ago (Edited 7d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal7d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead7d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan7d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl7d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx6d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8511d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.