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Hi-Fi Rush on PS5 and the Xbox multi-platform story so far

Eurogamer: "Hi-Fi Rush has arrived on PlayStation 5 and it's an excellent port of the original Xbox Series X and PC games... with slightly improved shadows. Tom Morgan reminds us of how great this game is, and examines Xbox's multi-platform record so far. From Ghostwire: Tokyo's Xbox issues to Pentiment receiving 120Hz support on PS5 first, surely Microsoft's flagship console should automatically be the best place to play its games and the first platform to receive new features? Great games get a wider audience now and that's a great thing - but Xbox needs to dot all the Is and cross all the Ts a little more carefully."

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purple10145d ago

THEY ARE SHOWING HI-FI RUSH RUNS BETTER ON PS5, wow

darthv7245d ago

Shadows are a bit higher res on 5, but they run pretty much the same. MS said recently there is a patch to address some weird glitch when set to 120hz even though the game doesn't even run at 120fps. It was thanks to the 5 that they are fixing the PC/ XB version.

Eonjay44d ago

I really dislike how DF is actually like Microsoft killed someone's cat by not having the best version on X ox. This doesn't even make sense given all their games are available on PC as well. There are always gonna be games that run faster on a PS5. Simply because it's clocked faster.

OptimusDK44d ago

@eonjsy
Omfg. Did you just ssy the ps5 is better than Xbox because of higher clocks. I hope you know there is a lot more to it than that. Xbox is without doubt the strongest console that’s why they are puzzled

StormSnooper44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

@optimusDK
DF is puzzled because they are a MS mouthpiece. There are a ton of games that run better on PS5, so whether series X is stronger or not, it doesn’t really matter when the multiplats games can perform better on PS5 and the PS5 first party are consistently better looking than Xbox’s. DF shouldn’t be “puzzled”at all unless they been sleeping under a rock.

We’re not going to even talk about the Dualsense features on PS5 btw. DF should be mention those if they really want to pretend to be objective, but I have a feeling they omitted that.

Babadook744d ago (Edited 44d ago )

@Optius

You are kind of misconstruing Eonjay. He said there will always be [some] games that run better due to the higher clock rate. He's right of course. You are saying SX is without a doubt the strongest console. It has the advantage of higher TFLops. But that's not without a doubt stronger as that's one metric only and a slight improvement even with that. There are bandwidth advantages in PS5s favour, clock advantages give you many other advantages in other performance metrics. The faster IO is often a factor as well. All of this is made clear with PS5 having a better record in performance.

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repsahj44d ago

As usual DF will say the outcome is mystery or weird if PS5 version runs better.

S2Killinit44d ago

Yup. They are paid for by MS.

PhillyDonJawn44d ago

Yeah cause the Xbox is more powerful soo you do the math

repsahj43d ago

...so why compare the 2 if in paper XSX should always win?

badz14944d ago

Maybe...just maybe...the PS5 is easier to develop for and its OS is lighter on the resources than what MS has on the Series consoles. If Windows is used as reference, you would understand why. Windows is notorious for being a resource hog and that might impact game performance. It usually does on PC.

Abear2144d ago

They show many other games running better on PS5 too btw.

It’s click bait, but Xbox fans should be happy they are pointing it out, maybe M$ will do something about it for their Gamepass machine.

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Profchaos44d ago

An extra year of Dev time let them polish it more the results are garunteed to be back ported to the Xbox.
Let's try not to blow this one out of proportion

TheTony31644d ago

Ghostwire Tokyo had an extra year for the Xbox port and it still looks and performs worse on Xbox.

repsahj44d ago

Honestly, you didn't watch all of the video.

Profchaos44d ago

I actually did watch it there was more speculation as to why the qa was poor more than any theory on why this game has better shadows on ps5.
I believe this was down to extra dev time

TheTony31644d ago

Better shadows are nice but what makes the PS5 version trully superior are the Dualsense features. A rythm game like this works great with haptic feedback.

Barlos44d ago

The DualSense is one of the best things about PS5. For me it's one of the best controllers ever made.

S2Killinit44d ago

Yeah. The new tech in the Dualsense is a game changer.

anast44d ago

The game got a player count boost as it was doing poorly on PC and Xbox.

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Tango Gameworks Dev Asks “Not Enough?” Amid Studio Shutdown Despite Multiple Awards

Amid the studio’s shutdown, a Tango Gameworks developer has questioned whether its many awards were not enough for the Xbox management.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

I'm sorry but I'm going for cringe *insert madara got betrayed by black zetsu here* but fr tango it's never enough for Microsoft. Microsoft are cannibals imo

TheProfessional4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah PS hasn't shut down any studios.

Arkane austin made redfall, everything about that was bad regardless of microsft's involvement. Plus prey didn't sell well either.

Tango gameworks shouldn't have been closed though. The others make sense.

notachance4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

it doesn’t take long for xbox fanboys to put on their fanboy glasses again huh?
it’s always the classic combo of “PS did it too” and “it makes sense”.

And they wonder why there’s barely any new fans since xb1 era, that’s because normal people are disgusted by the corporation and its fanboys.

Reaper22_4d ago

"Yeah PS hasn't shut down any studios."

Now you know that's a lie.

thorstein4d ago

Today's lesson in rhetoric:

Whataboutism

-a type of red herring fallacy. Both are argumentative fallacies that divert attention away from the original topic to a new one. However, whataboutism uses the new topic to attack the other party, while a red herring fallacy introduces an unrelated topic.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Yes we understand ps isn't perfect especially not recently but this fallacy doesn't mean anything because if ps saw potential they'll cultivate usually and problem particularly tango where they made bangers that xbox needed but nope man shut it down like tf

DarXyde3d ago

1. Why are we talking about PlayStation closing studios? We know they did, but the "they did it too" deflection is such a lazy way to redirect frustration and outrage about what is happening now. We're not talking about Sony, are we? The problem is Microsoft straight up closed studios they've held for less than five years after releasing single projects. And being the cowards they are, they closed Tango when staff was away during Golden Week in Japan.

2. I don't play Arkane games as first person games are not my flavour, but let's look at this exactly as it really is: Microsoft, a company with a market cap over 3 TRILLION dollars, has doubled, tripled, quadrupled, and quintupled down on their Day one subscription service. They have sabotaged their own titles' chances of success related to revenue by doing that—add to the fact that they insisted on having all of these studios with the publishers (refusing to cleave off any studios) and having a drawn out legal battle over ABK. And even with Game Pass, Microsoft had to close the loophole for $1 subs because their players don't even want to pay the full sub fee.

And now, the developers are on the chopping block. Spencer acting as the remorseful figure after Red Fall bombed, yet he's still got his job and the studio is gone.

Stop the madness. And just to appease your whataboutism, yes, Sony deserves this fire too if/when they go that way. I can't speak for others, but I was absolutely livid when they closed Japan studio. I don't even have Plus because they raised the price and haven't had it since.

None of these corporations are good. I wouldn't lose sleep if they all burned to the ground and something that balances labour and consumer best interests came from it.

Until then, keep the anger righteous. Today, that happens to be Microsoft.

Profchaos3d ago

Arkane Austin were under direction for zeninax to make redfail prior to that arkane actually had a really impressive history so one mistake they partially made remember it's zeninax that drove the games direction and it's a yeah they suck they deserve it.

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MrDead4d ago

You have talent but MS is IP hoarding so only the biggest IP's will survive, a few new ones might slip through but if they don't sell like the big titles like COD or Fallout then bye bye and thanks for the money we'll make from continuing to sell your games.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

That's a fair take. While Tango made hi fi it's not like any of there other games were system sellers

Hugodastrevas4d ago

This is legitimately heartbreaking, you pour all you got into your craft, you're recognized for it, you're successful... Just to be discarded like leftovers

MrDead4d ago

The games haven't been discarded, MS just made sure the people who created them are not receiving any money from future sales... like the massive c**** they are.

Palitera4d ago

Well, in the past, they gave away their choice power for money.
They just want to receive the aquisition and full funding money, but still call the shots?

VariantAEC1d 23h ago

Tango is a dev under Bethesda which is part of Zenimax. Microsoft acquired Zenimax and everything under their umbrella. Tango had no choice in the matter.
The more you know...

shinoff21834d ago

Hopefully they can move on and continue, whether forming their own studio, or getting a job elsewhere. This dev is exactly right.

CDbiggen4d ago

I loved ghostwire, such a shame.

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Hi-Fi Rush Gets Surge Of Positive Reviews On Steam After Studio Shutdown Announcement

Tango Gameworks' Hi-Fi Rush has received a surge of positive reviews on Steam after the announcement of the studio's shutdown.

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TiredGamer4d ago

I mean.... okay. While I can appreciate the virtue-signaling of it all, this along with the recent Helldivers 2 debacle is only proving that Metacritic scores really can't be trusted and are just something that can be used to manipulate. If a game/movie/etc is not rated solely on its own merit, what good are the reviews to a consumer actually looking to make the best choice in selecting a piece of entertainment?

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Exactly! I said this and people jumped down my throat as it was an attack to democracy or some sh*t when I brought it up in a Helldivers 2 article.

It 100% shows how pointless user reviews are. I personally, never make a purchasing decision based on them and if I’m on the fence for a game I’ll watch streams and gameplay and check out professional reviews to form a decision.

Typically, I get what I’m interested in regardless of reception, but that’s just me. If I’m being honest, reviews are pointless and more for validation. I see a game I’m hyped for get an aggregate high score it’s just like a good feel sort of thing. I’ll still buy what I want regardless of people’s opinions.

shinoff21834d ago

Exactly. People put to much stock into reviews and stuff. It never made sense to me. I buy the same way. If on kinda either way I look up about the game not what someone else thinks for the most part.

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northpaws4d ago

Ya, just stop trusting reviews, and give interesting games a chance.

sagapo4d ago

Yeah, the thing is back in the day we got demo’s and they gave you a glimpse of what to expect. And most demo’s were pieces of the final version, not chuncks of beta material.
Today with barely any demo’s, bying on a gut feeling is kinda tricky as games aren’t getting any cheaper.
I do watch and read reviews nowadays, paying attention to the con’s mostly. If certain negatives keep reappearing in reviews, there migt be some truth to it and it’s up to me if I let that negative influence my decision to purchase.

Vits4d ago

You are conflating two different things. First is the score, and scores, by definition, are something completely open to manipulation because they are quantitative measures of qualitative analysis. The second is the review itself, which is what is written, and that is where the value of reviews lies, especially user reviews because they can point out things that "professional" reviews will not, for example, how the game behaves after an update or if it scales well with a certain tier of hardware, etc.

The issue is that most people don't like to read. They see the score, and that's about it. Which is even worse in the case of Steam, as the score system is binary, so it alone doesn't tell anything.

jwillj2k44d ago

All they’re doing is paying Microsoft. Nothing positive comes from this.

romulus234d ago

It's a great game, it shouldn't have taken the studios closure to receive a surge of positive reviews.

Kurisu4d ago

I wish I had supported the game at launch. I mean, I "did" in a way because I played it when it shadow dropped on Game Pass and I absolutely loved it, but didn't buy it. When the studio closure got announced I purchased it on PS5 while it was on sale though, and have started the game again.

romulus234d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I purchased it on PS5 as soon as it became available, worth every penny. At least we did our part to support the developer, too bad it wasn't enough.

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Psychonaut854d ago

Wish we could start a gofundme for the Tango employees, but I have no confidence the money would actually get to them.

northpaws4d ago

That's XBox for you... Promote the shit out of Star field and shadow drop good game like Hi Fi Rush... they simply don't know what is a good game. HI-Fi Rush proved that you don't need huge budget for games, you just need to know what make a game fun.

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

In actuality, both games are not that good. Hi-Fi is an average good game, which is why even the fans of these types of games could only muster a 6k peak on steam. Now, Imagine spending a 100 mil to advertise it.

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Humble Choice Bundle May 2024 Lineup Includes Hi-Fi Rush

The games for Humble Choice Bundle for the month of May, 2024, have begun to be revealed, and they include Hi-Fi Rush.

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