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FTC Allowed to Investigate Sony & Ubisoft Deals in Microsoft & Activision Merger Case With a Caveat

While the $68.7 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard by Microsoft has finally been closed, the legal battle between Microsoft and the FTC to keep it closed is still ongoing.

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MrDead215d ago

At least the judge has stopped MS sending what is already know, but it's crazy that they can't go through all the evidence they requested.

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Abriael215d ago

Actually, the judge has stopped the FTC from asking what is already known.

The restrictions to the order are for the FTC, not for Microsoft.

MrDead214d ago (Edited 214d ago )

"Actually, the judge has stopped the FTC from asking what is already known."
True, I completely misread that

"The restrictions to the order are for the FTC, not for Microsoft."

Which is a shame as they are not allowed to see all the requested documentation, trying to build a case when you can't see all the evidence is a kick in the teeth... but hey, the unimaginably wealthy just got way wealthier so evidence be dammed, champagne!!!

Abriael214d ago

LOL imagine being so absolutely biased that you celebrate something when you erroneously think it's in favor of the regulator you're weirdly a fanboy of, and then bemoan exactly the same thing when you realize it's the opposite.

Man, you're a riot. The idea that they "can't see all the evidence" because they aren't allowed to request documents on evidence that has already been acquired making everyone waste their time, including the judge, is absolutely hilarious.

MrDead213d ago (Edited 213d ago )

I will remain a fanboy of anyone that wants to protect the consumer from the market consolidation of companies like MS, even if the FTC is powerless or not. They couldn't stop the consolidation of the food market, airlines, ISP's, energy market, etc now the US is in a rut of low wages and high costs because they are powerless without institutional support.

"LOL imagine being so absolutely biased that you celebrate something"
I know, I said "At least the judge has stopped MS sending what is already know" this was a hard celebration, that had the party poppers out and everything... never invite me to one of your parties if to you that is a celebration.

"Man, you're a riot. The idea that they "can't see all the evidence" because they aren't allowed to request documents on evidence that has already been acquired making everyone waste their time, including the judge, is absolutely hilarious."
The waste of time excuse is just that an excuse, the same when it comes to cost. Having access to the evidence you require for a case to prove links and trails and intent... also what you find funny is a little odd, the denial of evidence is "hilarious"?

But hey Abriael, market consolidation has won, gamers are losing access to games and one company is free to buy and dictate where the industry goes, be happy as your dream is coming true.

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-Foxtrot215d ago

Why only part? If the deal is closed then what’s the harm it can do.

Obscure_Observer215d ago

"Why only part? If the deal is closed then what’s the harm it can do."

Waste of taxpayer money.

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blacktiger213d ago

it's never waste of tax payer when it comes to corporation.

Abriael215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

The "harm" is that a regulator isn't allowed to harass private companies by asking for a limitless mountain of documents and testimonies with no restrictions, which the judge himself then has to read and study, wasting his time as well.

Demands for lots of redundant documents and testimonies don't just waste Microsoft's money. It wastes the judge's time, which is literally taxpayer money.

Jin_Sakai215d ago

I guess it was a waste of tax payers money from the beginning since the FTC lost. So there’s that.

porkChop215d ago

Because it costs taxpayer money. The FTC already had 5 months of discovery and failed to prove anything. They don't just get to request however many documents they want to now. The judge is preventing them from wasting time, that's why they also can't request anything that includes information the FTC already has from other documents.

Kaze88213d ago

Everyone saying "wasting tax payers money" wont care 99% what happens to their tax money, but now when its your console maker it matters :D Let's not ever sue any big companies about anything, because it's a waste of money. Let's just get rid of FTC, problem solved. :)

BeHunted215d ago (Edited 215d ago )

It's too late. Microsoft already owns the Publisher, and game studios.

XiNatsuDragnel214d ago

True but divertsure is possible still but rare chance.

Neonridr214d ago

nothing is being undone here, it's over.

DarXyde214d ago (Edited 214d ago )

Technically (and I do mean technically), "Too late" is never really a thing with US companies. Companies can be broken up via antitrust law.

Will it happen? Nah. Tech companies are pretty much allowed to do whatever they want. There's a failure to properly reprimand crypto bros and they've been talking about dealing with Google for years.

It can be be done. That is literally always an option.

But it won't be. American society can continue to deteriorate, but as long as representatives have money and protection from the masses, they don't care.

So in practice, you're right: it's too late. In principle, with a functional legislature (ha!) tech companies can be broken up.

Sonic1881214d ago

This might affect future big acquisitions. Basically they're keeping an eye on Microsoft future acquisitions. I don't know if it would make any difference though

CrimsonWing69214d ago

Y'know, if I've learned one thing from this debacle it's just how little the FTC knows about the game industry. It's actually comical, like you could literally make a courtroom comedy movie with this case just by using the actual transcripts alone.

Just let it go, already.

richardmmorales214d ago

If they turned it into a movie. I'd watch it. Last month watched Blackberry.

CrimsonWing69214d ago

I’m glad you mentioned that because I was interested in seeing BlackBerry, but totally forgot about it.

Kaii214d ago

Cuts staff just before December, will they be getting a 6m severance package?

Kaii214d ago

Wrong article comment, woop.

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer8h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning776h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv726h ago(Edited 6h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning772h ago(Edited 2h ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

-Foxtrot8h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

...

Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv726h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC4h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno4h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier1h ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

Sciurus_vulgaris6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier58m ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

Elda1h ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf12h ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic11h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv7211h ago(Edited 11h ago)

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop7h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv726h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19725h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

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shinoff218310h ago(Edited 10h ago)

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv7210h ago(Edited 10h ago)

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje9h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils4h ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick8h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

gamerz1h ago

Just let my subscription lapse for the first time since 2010. Will sub again every now and then for a month or so to access my old ps+ games but for me it's the end of an era.

DivineHand12526m ago

Let those numbers continue to drop because it is now too expensive. $80 per year just to play online. I noticed they didn't offer any discounts on the subscription or controllers during this year's days of play for the first time in many years and they will feel it when people choose not to renew.

My subscription will lapse next month and it will stay that way until further notice.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein1d 9h ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff218314h ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear2114h ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

Goodguy0118h ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing6916h ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing6913h ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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