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Principal Designer On The Last Of Us Multiplayer Game Has Left Naughty Dog

According to a LinkedIn Profile, The Last of Us Multiplayer game continues to see departures as a Principal Designer has left Naughty Dog

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Jin_Sakai248d ago

Yea this game is done. Now let’s get back to making those single player masterpieces Naughty Dog are known for.

Obscure_Observer248d ago

"Yea this game is done."

You said Sony has flawless management skills of first party studios and impeccable games output.

And now after so many years and delays you´re here telling people that a game from Sony´s premier studio is dead?

derek248d ago

@Obscure, what's your point? The game may be canceled, so what. Instead of releasing games below ND high standards, like Microsoft did with redfall for example, you shelve them. ND's only error was informing the public about this project so early in development.

Jin_Sakai248d ago (Edited 248d ago )

“You said Sony has flawless management skills of first party studios and impeccable games output.”

Sony unlike Microsoft has put out many many great games this generation. Factions was a MP side project and unlike Redfall won’t likely see the light of day and cause disappointment. Anyhow PlayStation fans will be busy playing Spider-Man 2 in a few weeks.

Vengeance1138248d ago

Pretty great management to choose to not release a turd like Redfall.
Sony knows the state of their games, unlike MS who close their eyes.

Notellin248d ago

This community is made up entirely of uninformed and uneducated fanboys. It's not worth arguing with the @Jin_Sakai's of this world as they are unimportant to anything in the real world of video games development and just edge lords on a computer at home.

Tacoboto248d ago

So now, people are convincing themselves that Sony and Naughty Dog have great management *because* Factions 2 is a failed project.

This is even better than the guy who suggested we buy GaaS to support Sony single player.

Obscure_Observer248d ago (Edited 247d ago )

@derek

"@Obscure, what's your point? The game may be canceled, so what. Instead of releasing games below ND high standards."

High Standards?

It was supposed to be a MP mode for TLOU2 that ND couldn't put out. Then, they changed its scope to turn it into some standalone MP focused game, just to fail at a second time?

Do you have an idea on how much money, time and resources were invested in that game?

My point is, ND used to deliver 4 games per generation (as they did in the PS3 era with Amy and Bruce) and now under Druckmman as the main and ONLY director, their games output dropped drastically.

If Factions 2 gets canned, make no mistake that we won´t see a single new game released by that studio for the entire PS5´s life circle, once they just recently "decided" which game they´ll be developing next.

https://www.ign.com/article...

I mean, even the most hardcore PS fanboy would agree that such scenario would be disastrous.

"ND's only error was informing the public about this project so early in development."

It wasn´t "early in development", dude. It was supposed to be released as a MP mode for TLOU 2!

This is nothing different from what they did before with Chloe and Nadine in The Lost Legacy.

"Sony unlike Microsoft has put out many many great games this generation."

They did started very strong then are *apparently* losing steam now.

MS started slow and now is picking up speed. Facts!

"Anyhow PlayStation fans will be busy playing Spider-Man 2 in a few weeks"

And then what? Some third party exclusives? What does mean to your narrative about Playstation´s flawless first party output and management of first party studios?

@Vengeance1138

"Sony knows the state of their games, unlike MS who close their eyes."

Really?

https://www.metacritic.com/...

Suddenly cancelling games becomes a good thing, right?

Crows90247d ago

Most of your points are poppy cock but I'll agree that Neil druckman is destroying naughty dog. Bruce and Amy made naughty dog what it is/was. You forgot that the one game under his supervision was massively divisive.

shinoff2183247d ago

Surprised your here even posting with all that fun in starfield your having.

jimbo676247d ago

Sony is pretty incompetent right now and their whole AAA GAAS future is a mess. What a travesty.

Chevalier247d ago

https://www.forbes.com/site...

Here's what $70 gets you from Xbox. $30 DLC pack with no update in 4 months and no 60 FPS. Not a peep out of Obscure, but, a lot of fake rage over TLOU though. Lol

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DarXyde247d ago

Unsurprising to see you jump on bad news. Clockwork trolling.

Cite him saying Sony has flawless management skills. Do it. The burden of proof is on you. If it's been said, surely you can prove a positive, yeah? Aren't you the "Bookmarking this for later" guy?

Just like that, your argument (if I'm being generous by calling it that) falls apart. For the record, I'm pretty sure that Jin has been quite critical of Jim Ryan, so what kind of reality is that based in? Pretty sure I've seen Jin questioning Sony's direction in several instances.

I love that you put "You said Sony has flawless management skills of first party studios" and "impeccable games output" in the same sentence, acting like both of those things are untrue. Sony does have first party output that is "impeccable", at least by gaming standards. The nominations, awards, and accolades they very regularly receive are a testament to that.

The height of irony is getting these kinds of comments from the OG Pet-of-Phil.

Behave yourself, mate.

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S2Killinit247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

God you are extremely annoying. Do you say anything at all that is not fanboy? Do you ever think that you need a change? I’m literally concerned for you.

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Zeref248d ago

@Derek

Oh so now canceling games is good? 😂😂😂

Phlacky248d ago

Well yes cancelling a game can be good if it isn't up to standards. Better to quit whilst ahead then pour more money into it that could be better used else where.

Jin_Sakai248d ago (Edited 248d ago )

In rare cases yes or you end up with a turd like Redfall. 😉

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Zeref248d ago (Edited 248d ago )

I don't even disagree. I just think it's funny after all this time of PS fanboys shitting on Xbox for canceling games.

But now that Sony is about to cancel a game. It's a good thing? 😂

The hypocrisy is just amazing to see 😂
like at least be consistent in your bullshit

Elda248d ago

LMAO!! The pot calling the kettle black? An XB fanboy calling others a PS fanboy? Think before you speak. Smh.

jambola247d ago

Who?
Derek said both of those things?
Or is it a case where you think different people having opposite opinions is hypocrisy?

IamFrasierCrane247d ago

“Playstation fans should be licking Phil spencers nuts right now. He could have easily cancelled the PS versions even though talks were already on the way before they bought it.“

Considering you throw out cancellation threats just because MS bought something should tell us all we need to know. Canceling a game just because is definitely a bad thing and you have no problem with MS having that power. Wonder why PS fans have said cancelations are bad 🤔 Perhaps take a look a the bullshit y’all have posted since the start of last gen…

Crows90247d ago

What games has Microsoft been canceling lately?

ModsDoBetter247d ago

That's just this site all over.

DarXyde247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

Who said cancelling a game was bad? If it's not coming together, I think most people would rather say screw it. In my experience, I was pissed because Scalebound was the main reason I got an Xbox One. I found that infuriating, but I understood it. But you know what got under my skin more than that and I bring it up semi-frequently? The closing of Japan Studio. I'm a PlayStation guy, and I'm very vocal about that.

I'm not sure what you're going on about.

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darksky247d ago

The game was done for me when Joel was brutally killed off.

Petebloodyonion247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

Color me crazy but it seems there 2 completely different standards where Sony is always doing good and MS always bad no matter what when not releasing games or part of it.

Example: It's a good thing that ND cancels this " side project" from TLOU part 2 because it's better to cancel it than release a TURD like Redfall and faction was only a small mode that nobody played so no big deal.

Compared to MS is screwing PPL by not having FORGE released with HALO day 1 because this mode is SUPER important to the game! This shows again that MS can't properly program just like with Scalebound.

Funny how suddenly Faction is a side project despite the original being available since day 1 on PS3 with a pre-order bonus, purchasable DLC (maps pack, Weapons bundle, and skins), and adding exclusive MTS to the PS4 version of the remaster.

And we don't need to talk about Scalebound :)

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GoodGuy09248d ago

Idk how it's possible they're having this much trouble with the MP. Just copy the original and add Part II's gameplay and... that's it (I know obviously it's more than that but still, you have the original to build off of). The mode must really be overambitious.

Rocketisleague248d ago

Half expecting an MMO or something at this point

isarai248d ago

Honestly it sounds like someone came in and forced them to repurpose it into something else, something more monetize and profitable. And the rapid gear shift just made it all fall apart.

blackblades248d ago

Right, it was suppose to be like GoT MP that came out at a later date. Bet Jim came around and said make it into a live service game but of course they never done one. Buying bungie they came around and said it wouldnt work how they had it and just started falling apart. Of course everything is just speculations of what other has said that dont even work there. Are there signs yeah, the delay, this, other things so they could be right but then theres also that talk about how they were more games that was suppose to be shown at the showcase. Theres nothing 100% we dont know if they are ready to show a lot of these games or not.

LOGICWINS248d ago

I think you hit the nail on the head. Sony is fully capable of making great multiplayer experiences (Killzone 2, Warhawk, Uncharted 2 and 3 multiplayer). In fact, the PS3 generation is my favorite BECAUSE of those experiences.

For them to be having this much trouble tells me that something is seriously wrong. Thing is, I'm not even against GAAS games as long as they're well done.

itBourne247d ago

Just like every other Sony multiplayer game... They can make a great mp, then the highers come in that have zero clue wtf a good mp game even is and either wreck the entire system, or bury whats good so deep and cover it with absolute shit so that you dont even enjoy what is underneath.

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Stanjara248d ago

That would be great if they just update the original... but of course that isn't the milking costumer model.

outsider1624248d ago

I think what they're going for is too ambitious. An open world Last of us. Either it was gonna fantastic or straight up crap. Nothing in between.

thecodingart248d ago

Druckman being the leadership shake up…

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Sonyslave3248d ago

He no longer needed they have Bungie to help in that aspect. Even though Fortnite is way bigger n better then Destiny .

Stanjara248d ago

YES! Kill this garbage gaas garbage!

CappyBlack248d ago (Edited 248d ago )

I'm not liking the future I feel I'm seeing Sony lead into.
This was just "contract workers" just the other day, apparently. Now it's one of the leads.

Anymore, the only first party actually being impressive is Insomniac. If what I've been shown prior to this, I think we're actually seeing Sony's GaaS future in action. The beginning of it, anyway.

The Last of Us recent release was so impressive. A marginal upgrade to the already released remaster.

I'm also convinced we'll be seeing more and more "remakes" of PS4 amd PS3 titles.

derek248d ago

@Cappy, hyperbolic much? Lol. Let me guess you're an Xbox fan.

CappyBlack248d ago

Do you have to just be a "Xbot fan looool" to be observant of other platforms?
If there's a game released I can play it. I'll leave your assumptions at that.

EvertonFC248d ago

That's how contract work is done, you're not an employer but a contractor with a short contract

Crows90247d ago

I'd say house marquee has massive potential. Loved returnal

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Unreal Engine 5 Showcase - Future Games Show Summer Showcase 2024

The Future Games Show Summer Showcase saw the return of the Unreal Showcase, an eye-popping section featuring stunning vistas, game demos, and evolving proje...

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Sony highlights 11 more PS5 exclusives coming in the near future

There are a bunch of China Hero Project PS5 exclusives to come our way and Sony has just made it a lot easier to see what those are.

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outsider16245h ago

All this is good and all. But im waiting from the main guys.
ND
SP
Bluepoint
SantaMonica
Guerilla

Gamerscore20774h ago

Same here, third party devs have been pushing out way more exclusives on PS5 than Sony.

It’s really looking like we might not see these new projects from these studios until next year or maybe (a big maybe) PS6.

Sony really needs a showcase dedicated to what’s only coming out the on PS5. They need to fall back a little on what’s coming out on the PC & now even the Switch. I know that’s more of a Lego project than a traditional Sony one, but still.

Cacabunga3h ago

Yeah man, more than 3 years in and haven’t seen what PS5 can truly achieve.. 3 years into PS4 life i got a 4KTV to enjoy the PS4 power.
We want and we deserve other than cross gen and lego titles Sony

Father__Merrin1h ago

I agree there's no really megaton heavy hitter mid way through the gen

Chard3h ago

Don't forget Gen Design (formerly Team Ico)

VersusDMC55m ago

They are not Sony first party anymore. They currently have a publishing deal with EPIC.

Kurisu4h ago

Lost Soul Aside was announced 8 years ago now. 8!

lodossrage3h ago

Look how long ago Gran Blue Fantasy Relink was announced before it finally came out.

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Xbox Games Summer Showcase 2024 start date, time, exciting leaks and how to watch

Here is the start date and time for the Xbox Games Summer Showcase 2024 with bundles of exciting leaks and how to watch.

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gold_drake1d 22h ago

10AM PT/1PM ET/6PM london time.
on June 9th.

this is so odd. we had ps before the summer fest and now xbox after.

lelo2play4h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Summer Fest and the Sony show were both crap, let's hope Microsoft and Ubisoft shows are decent.

(the way this is going, I'm not asking for good/great shows, simply asking for decent shows...)

I miss E3.

RupeeHoarder2h ago

State of Play is a 30 minute sizzle reel. It is not meant to compete with the yearly Xbox showcase.

Daver2h ago

Diablo 4 expansion? Even if the game is bad.

Crows902h ago

I'm definitely of the mind that d4 was complete crap at release...but the state of it right this moment is not complete crap. They've simplified a lot which actually helped their overtly stupid itemization.

End game content is still kind of stupid but at least progression and itemization is better.

Daver47m ago(Edited 47m ago)

@crows90

Maybe but it is still boring. It might be a little bit better but it is not a good game.

Profchaos27m ago(Edited 26m ago)

Xbox had typically kept the old e3 dates alive it seems to always fall on Queens / Kings birthday holiday in Aus only reason I've noticed as it used to be a day off to engross myself in e3 showcases but nowadays it's nothing

Lightning771d 21h ago

The rumor is 30 games with a nearly 2 hour show. I hope so I, been saying they need to go balls to the wall with their showcase. That's according to Grubb again. Yeah a huge pinch of salt he's only been wrong or half right about some stuff.

There's also suppose to be a Wu Tang Clan game that's a kungfu action RPG featuring the legendary hip hop group New Yorks own Wu Tang Clan. You read right Wu Tang Clan kungfu action RPG.

Sounds weird, random and quirky but hey I'm down to see it.

romulus2320h ago

Bet the title has Shaolin in it.

purple10117h ago

State of decay 3 info is leaking on twitter!

Looks good. Personally don’t play horror/ zombie games, but I appreciate it’s a good game so that’s a win for Xbox fans.

Lord knows they need a win at the moment

ThinkThink14h ago

Appreciate the concern, but I think we'll be just fine. Hope you all enjoy tomorrow's show.

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Obscure_Observer3h ago

"The rumor is 30 games with a nearly 2 hour show. I hope so I, been saying they need to go balls to the wall with their showcase."

MS had the best showcases in the last few years.

This year, the bar is so low with those last showcases, that imo, MS and Ubisoft doesn´t even need to make much of an effort to beat them.

"That's according to Grubb again. Yeah a huge pinch of salt he's only been wrong or half right about some stuff."

Grubb was right about the last State of Play. Just a few days for the end of the month, he´d continued and insisted that it was going to happen. And he was right! Sony made a last minute announcement for whatever reason, but the guy was spot on.

derek58m ago

Grubb has been pretty spot on in his comments regarding showcases. You can tell he's not guessing, he knows in advance.

Sonic188126m ago(Edited 25m ago)

Microsoft has had the best showcases for the last 3-4 years. The problem with Microsoft and the Xbox division is their reputation and trademark around the world. That's what's really affecting them.

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anast21h ago

This show is going to be painful.

Elda20h ago

Hopefully not knowing most games shown will be multiplats & some eventually multiplats.

anast20h ago

The presentation is going to be the painful part. There might be some good games though.

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ArmrdChaos8h ago

You can always make a drinking game out of it for every time they say the words "Made for a modern audience".

Crows901h ago

I'd like to be able to watch it through to the end though...

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anast3h ago

This is fun. Some back and forth.

No, but those emojis sure seem like you might be.

Crows901h ago

You'd think that every now and then even these dispassionate fools may do a good job...they've disappointed every single year since before release of Xbox one....that's a really long streak of disappointments...lol

anast1h ago

For sure. they have the money to put on a top tier show, but I'm afraid it will look like an event where super rich people are noticeably trying to be cheap. And they have this strange smile like they know they are trying o get over on people. It just makes for an awkward and tasteless showing.

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Elda20h ago

I hope it's a good showing knowing most games that will be shown will be multiplats & XB timed exclusives that'll eventually become multi-plats.

Tacoboto17h ago

It is what it is at this point.

At least the good games will have a chance to be bought, take advantage of the superior DualSense, and *maybe* give those studios a better shot at survival.

They'll also have better shadows, and run with higher dynamic res on the PS5 Pro.

Lightning7715h ago(Edited 15h ago)

So if they're multiplat would you suddenly like Xbox games?

You never have before you've made that clear several times over.

Elda13h ago

I have an XBSX. I also own a PS5 & a Switch. What's your point??

Lightning7713h ago

My point is what I said. You don't like Xbox games, you've said it repeatedly. So would you suddenly like Xbox games if they were available on PS5.

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