Microsoft Says "We Haven't Pulled Any Games From PlayStation" Amid Redfall PS5 Discussion

"They said, 'No PlayStation 5. Now we're gonna do Game Pass, Xbox, and PC.'"

[Eonjay]

Apparently, they are saying they didn't pull it from PlayStation because it never released on PlayStation. Of course they can't release and pull it from PlayStation if they cancel it during development... This is one of those PR statement where they attempt to confuse you with wordplay.

[darthv72]

It was never announced for Playstation, therefore it can't be taken away. If the game had been announced (like deathloop was) then that contract would have been honored (like deathloop was). Just the fact it was being worked on doesnt mean it was obligated to come out. These things have to be formally announced by either the publisher or the platform and neither of them said anything.

A good example of announced and then taken away would be Stellar Blade. Announced for Xbox and now exclusive to Playstation. I get that many may be disappointed but thems the breaks.

[Eonjay]

I didn't say it was announced for PS5. I was implying that it was being developed and development was pulled after Microsoft acquired the publisher.

[darthv72]

^^okay... to use your analogy we can look at Kameo. It too was in development for the Gamecube but then MS bought Rare and it was canceled and moved to the 360. Now in that example it wasn't announced for the Cube either but at that time Rare was owned by Nintendo so they didn't really have to announce it, it was implied as coming to the Cube.

We could pull countless examples of titles that start development on one platform and then get completely moved to something else as a result of a corporate buyout or just 3rd party exclusivity deal... it happens. No sense worrying about the what could have been. (I'm not saying you are "worrying", it's a figure of speech).

[crazyCoconuts]

Semantics. MS is purchasing companies that intended to release games on PS and instructing them to no longer do so. Is that surprising? No. The things people find objectionable are a) these are really big companies they're buying and it's beginning to look anti-competitive, and b) they said in writing that they wouldn't do this

[Eonjay]

Please note it is Microsoft who is claiming that the reason for capturing more of the market is to provide games for more players. Acquiring and then terminating development of a game on a competing platform goes against what they themselves have been promoting.

[shinoff2183]

Stellar blades probably timed exclusive anyway. What you crying for Darth.

I'll never get starfield on my ps.

[darthv72]

@shin... in your case, that's okay. You said it yourself just a week ago that you have gamepass... remember?

[Crows90]

Completely false. A game can absolutely be taken away if it's removed from development due to the purchase...all those games currently in development for PS5 stopped being developed for PS5. Guarantee you there's still a PS5 build most likely.

[sinspirit]

Can we stop twisting things that obviously would have happened if not for them buying them or even a third party contract? How can someone go years in denial over common sense and deductive reasoning? What help does this do for you? You haven't convinced anyone. People reply less to point the same things out to people trying to push this logic because it's a waste of time. Not because we're convinced and see logic in the argument.

[Flawlessmic]

Ms took away redfall and Sony took away stellar blade, it's really that simple

[S2Killinit]

@Darth
The problem is that MS is saying this to imply nothing has changed. Its a lie by omission, at the very least.

What MS is doing is plain and simple, they are taking from everyone and limiting who plays previously multiplatform games.

[badz149]

"It was never announced for Playstation, therefore it can't be taken away."

gee, then I hope xbox fanboys would STFU about FFVII Remake already because that too was never announced for the xbox!

[OptimusDK]

@Eonjay - it is 2 anda half years since MS bought took over Bethesda - and the game is not on the way out. There has never been any reasonable expectation that Redfall should come out for Playstation.

It is the same as SONY bought exclusive rights for 2 Bethesda games at the start of the generation - should XBOX players not have the right to play these games when they had been developed for xbox from the start. When have SONY ever done a deal where they brought a game to xbox - and please dont mention Destiney.

Theres is so much hypocrazy here that it blows my mind.

[Deathdeliverer]

You mean like Naraka Bladepoint got pulled from PlayStation? Devs had a the box and played it on YouTube. PlayStation version just disappeared and it was the lead console.

[UltimateRacer]

But Stellar Blade hasn’t released so you can’t take away a game that you’ve never had.

[jambola]

Or we could use examples that are the same instead of finding different ones

[IamTylerDurden1]

They literally pulled the in development game from PS. To imply that bc it wasn't announced means you can't pull it is silly. U can certainly pull the devs off and cancel a version and that's what they did. Same with Starfield. This scramble to spin this as "not pulling the game" is a joke. The game was planned and being developed for PS and MS literally pulled development. They pulled the in development game from PS. That is fact. Idek why u are trying so hard to defend MS i play more XB than u. Be real about ffs it's nauseating how ppl can't ever admit anything unsavory about MS. Is Phil Bill Clinton right now and we are questioning the definition of the word pulled? Gimme a break.

[-Foxtrot]

Thing is if the director at Arkane says this

“We got bought by Microsoft and that was a huge sea change. They said, ‘no PlayStation 5. Now we’re gonna do Game Pass, Xbox, and PC.”

Then MS did pull the game regardless if it was officially announced because the director literally confirms that it was in development

No one is really bothered it was cancelled, they were bought, it’s just how it goes but to lie (surprise) about this sort of thing is just really sad in my opinion.

I think MS is only angry because they’ve went on for ages about how they are “for the gamers” and how they want unity, bringing players together but everything they’ve done goes against that. If they just shut up and did their things then no one could call them on anything where they’ve contradicted themselves

[Neonridr]

a 3rd party studio assuming their game would release on multiple platforms isn't exactly out of left field. The point is, some people act like there was a working prototype on PS5 when the game could have still just been in the planning stages when the acquisition was made.

[Lightning77]

"I think MS is only angry because they’ve went on for ages about how they are “for the gamers” and how they want unity, bringing players together but everything they’ve done goes against that. If they just shut up and did their things then no one could call them on anything where they’ve contradicted themselves"

Where's the contradiction?

They said games won't only be on one box. It will be on other places and services. Surprises those don't include PS or Nintendo naturally unless it's contractual or they have some sorta agreement to do.

Your statement sounds like you're just mad because said games aren't on your favorite console.

Phil said this year exclusives is important for any platform holder that's plain and simple. He's been clear and consistent for Two years now when it comes to this stuff.

[-Foxtrot]

@Lightning77

" Your statement sounds like you're just mad because said games aren't on your favorite console "

Oh look the typical, standard "LALALALA not listening to what you have to say, you're just mad / a fanboy / a hater" supposed counter point

How...fresh I guess

"Phil said this year exclusives is important for any platform holder that's plain and simple"Example...talking about exclusives

Really?

“I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about.”

- July 2020

Three Months Later

*buys Zenimax Games*

- September 2020

And you wonder why people say he contradicts himself

[gangsta_red]

@foxtrot
How about leaving the complete story and not just a snippet to justify your narrative.

https://www.videogameschron...

https://www.thegamer.com/ph...

“As a player you are the center of our strategy. Our device is not the center of our strategy, our game is not the center of the strategy. We want to enable you to play the games you want to play, with the friends you want to play with, on any device.”

It then goes on to your actual quote...

"Sorry, I am a bit soapboxy with this one,” Spencer continues, “I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about.”

That quote is when Phil was addressing cross platform devices, it was during the time Halo Infinite was announced to be cross platform and the net including this site was going crazy because Halo I wasn't an exclusive to Xbox Series S|X. He is addressing playing their games from any device, not exclusively on one platform. Absolutely zero to do with what you and others on this site wants it to be. See how actual context changes everything.

"If they just shut up and did their things then no one could call them on anything where they’ve contradicted themselves"

Except that still wouldn't be true because people actually just want to be constantly angry at MS. Which is why we always get these out of context "Phil said this" blown out of proportion. Just like the whole single player and cross play fiasco.

[Lightning77]

"Oh look the typical, standard "LALALALA not listening to what you have to say, you're just mad / a fanboy / a hater" supposed counter point"

Well you are angry. You're always angry.

"Phil said this year exclusives is important for any platform holder that's plain and simple"Example...talking about exclusives

Really?"

Meeting contractual obligations. Updating existing games with parity and content. Saying New Bethesda games will ship only on Xbox and where ever else gamepass is at and supporting store fronts like Steam and Epic store.

Yes now where's your proof of...I guess none of that happening?

You're either not too smart or you're purposely taking that statement outta context. Let's quote the rest of the statement.

"Gaming is bigger than any one device, and that is something as an industry that we’ve embraced all up as we bring more and more players in. I think it’s vital to the role that gaming can play on the planet.”

Many devices that does not include PS or Nintendo unless contracts and other obligations are in place like o. Said before.

Put everything single piece of information together that I said in my first comment, and this comment figure it all out yourself because it's not hard. I'm not repeating myself again.

[1Victor]

Well I hope for Microsoft sake they when scorched every hon those files and buried them in the desert and covered the HD’s on concrete so no hackers can find them but we all know Microsoft is not as detailed as Atari

[gangsta_red]

"This is one of those PR statement where they attempt to confuse you with wordplay."

How is it confusing or word play?

It's about as simple as even you explained it. If something was never coming to Playstation, never announced and never there to begin with then it was never pulled off of Playstation.

[darkrider]

All those games were coming to ps5. If starfield was going to be a timed exclusive.... They even got other timed exclusive from beteshda this gen ... Damn, how hard it's to understand...

Being a Fanboy of Microsoft is one thing, but is scary when you can even accept something so clear....

Microsoft destroyed all the games beteshda was gonna launch on the ps4 and ps5... Facts

[gangsta_red]

"Microsoft destroyed all the games beteshda was gonna launch on the ps4 and ps5... Facts"

They sure did, you know why? Because Bethesda/Zenimax is a Microsoft first party studio...FACTS

Is that clear enough for you? Or is this too hard for you to understand?

Crazy how they didn't destroy Deathloop, Tokyo GhostWire and such, you know the games that were actually announced and contracted with time exclusivity to appear on PS...Facts

[Obscure_Observer]

"Crazy how they didn't destroy Deathloop, Tokyo GhostWire and such, you know the games that were actually announced and contracted with time exclusivity to appear on PS...Facts"

They´ll continue and cry about Bethesda games for the eternity! Lol!

[rippermcrip]

You know you're full of shit.

Same for the "our first 2 releases were Playstation exclusives" as if they are some kind of heroes. Let's ignore that they were contractually obligated prior to the purchase.

[Terry_B]

As I said 2 days ago. Some of your comments are really bad lol

[IamTylerDurden1]

But it was intended to come to PS because they were developing the game for PS. Microsoft is challenging the definition of the word "pulled". Arkane admitted they were working on a PS version thus obviously it intended to come to PS. Did Dishonored, Prey, Deathloop release on PS? If they were developing it for PS and their previous games were on PS why wouldn't it have come to PS? If MS never intervened Redfall more than likely was coming to PS. Arkane literally admitted this by saying MS pulled the development for PS ffs. You try too hard to defend anything that can be perceived as negative. This is cringe PR speak from MS and your defense is embarrassing.

[gangsta_red]

@Iamtyler

Nobody is saying it wasn't going to come to PS. I don't know why this is the argument you and others are trying to make. You and others are laying it on thick about something that is way too simple to comprehend.

But let's be honest, this is just another reason for you to have a problem with MS. You guys throw temper tantrums with everything MS does and in turn give Sony a pass when they do the same and then have the nerve to tell others to "stop defending MS". Maybe we wouldnt have to if you would stop making up complete asinine complaints in every MS article.

"Did Dishonored, Prey, Deathloop release on PS?"

Yes they did. Did MS pull any of those games from Playstation? ...No, okay.

Did a previous Redfall release on PlayStation? Was there an announcement it was coming to PS? Did Sony have a timed exclusive deal with Redfall? Was there any contracts stating Redfall was supposed to release on PS? ..NO...then MS didn't pull it off PlayStation did they.

Is Arkane studio a MS first party developer? ...Yes.

Again, you can whine and complain about what could of, should of, would of, what if, might have been and maybe's, but here's the actual reality... Zenimax and all it's developers underneath them are first party developers for Microsoft. MS honored all contractual agreements with PS. Redfall, Starfield and all future titles do not fall under any of those contracts. Now each developer will focus on Xbox and Xbox's ecosystem. MS owning this studio is well within their right to cancel any project outside of their own interests.

Absolutely not hard to understand and grasp. It's just that some here are trying desperately hard to make the obvious into something overly dramatic.

I mean it's not like they're paying a third party studio for Redfall to stay off of PlayStation, like Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, FF Remake, or Stellar Blade.

[Obscure_Observer]

"This is one of those PR statement where they attempt to confuse you with wordplay."

The ball is in Sony´s court.

It´s time for you PS fans, to ask them for clarifications.

[Jin_Sakai]

They didn’t pull games from PlayStation but instead kept them from coming to the platform. Nice PR Microsoft.

[Aloymetal]

Hype, PR and BS is what Microsoft specializes in. That's one department Sony/PS can't compete with MS.

[Lightning77]

You're absolutely right. It's what happens when you own those games now.

[dumahim]

Straight up spin.

[DarXyde]

Yes... But objectively, you can't be too upset about something that wasn't formally announced for your platform. It's like Final Fantasy VII Remake where it was never announced for any platform besides PC, so can you really be that upset about something that was kind of always only expected to hit PlayStation since PS3 (which, funny enough, was a tech demo and people took it as verification that a remake was coming)?

Redfall and even Starfield are new IPs. I have a hard time with people feeling sore about that. Even if we know now that PlayStation versions were cancelled.

I think a different conversation can be had about Elder Scrolls, Doom, Fallout, etc because there was a clear precedent for that... But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

For now, I still believe that Microsoft would gladly bring all of their games to PlayStation if* Sony allowed XGP on their platforms. I don't think they should, but I suppose we'll see.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Ppl aren't arguing the right for MS to do it they are upset that MS is challenging the definition of the word pulled and attempting to be the good guy when they clearly pulled the development of the game from PS. And it's funny u meantion FFVII because regardless of whether FF has more of an affiliation with PS than XB or whether an XB version was ever announced XB fans have cried about it for years and continue to cry about. They use it to demonize Sony yet can't even admit MS pulled the development of Redfall from PS after Arkane admitted it. Nobody claims MS didn't have the right to do it but to not even acknowledge they pulled it is troubling. "Pulled" or "cancelled" it's all semantics. We all know what happened and the fact that fans are trying to help MS spin this ridiculous "it wasn't pulled" PR is beyond me particularly a day after Arkane admitted it.

[DarXyde]

IamTylerDurden1,

Sure. It's a flexible interpretation and I don't dispute that at all. You're also right that Xbox fans have been crying about Final Fantasy VII for ages (which, if you REALLY want the game, either get a PC or buy a PlayStation—same thing PlayStation gamers are told about Starfield and perhaps soon, Call of Duty—and it's fair enough).

It's pretty unfortunate to have a game pulled when it was verifiably intended for more platforms, but I suppose I don't really care when it pertains to be IPs. It's certainly one less game than PlayStation should have gotten, but new IPs are unlikely to generate the outrage needed to force a relaxing of policy. I am very curious to know what will happen once we get to Elder Scrolls/Fallout territory, but I guess we'll see.

I've said this before, but Microsoft might really be poking a bear with these acquisitions and removing content. I wouldn't underestimate Playstation's capacity to put together an exclusive competitor to many of these games, minus those "charming" Bethesda bugs. As much as I love From Soft's entire catalog, I'd say Demon's Souls and Bloodborne were the best (though I like Dark Souls' lore the most). Insomniac has also had a rough time with projects unsupported by PlayStation studios. Anecdotes largely, but if it's any indication, I would think these occurrences are just going to force 'em to do what they do.

[IamTylerDurden1]

MS spin at its finest. They just admitted they pulled the in development game from PS. This is why i can't stand MS PR.

[InUrFoxHole]

What they should say is... its our game. Play it on gamepass/pc/Xbox or don't play it at all.

[Neofire]

Yup, MS is masterful at semantics.

[lelo2play]

I'm sure Square had FF7Remake and FF16 planned for Xbox, and pulled away when they made a deal with Sony ...

[darkrider]

They are exclusive to Sony? Where that news? It's a major news.

[BehindTheRows]

FFVII Remake never had any Xbox version. If they did, prove it. Otherwise you're blowing hot air.

Can't speak on XVI, but both games are irrelevant since Sony never made any claims top the contrary. The issue isn't games being pulled. It is Microsoft claiming they wouldn't do it.

[lelo2play]

Where did Microsoft claim they wouldn't do it?

Like you said, if they did, prove it. Otherwise you're blowing hot air.

[BehindTheRows]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2...
https://www.eurogamer.net/x...

They didn't want exclusives.

Then...

https://gameranx.com/update...

https://www.purexbox.com/ne...

As I noted — people take issue with Microsoft tripping over their own words (Phil Spencer specifically). This is bigger than Redfall itself.

I agree that exclusives are important, but that's not the sentiment Phil has always taken. So, they're getting called out for it here. Of course, once you acquire a company, all of their assets become yours, but if you're taking the stance that exclusives are "Completely Counter To What Gaming Is About", and then literally starting buying multiplatform publishers and making all (or some) of their games exclusive, people are going to highlight what looks like hypocrisy.

The main reason you can't compare this to Final Fantasy (either game) is because a. Sony has never taken an anti-exclusive stance and b. there is absolutely no proof either game was ever in development for Xbox.

[lelo2play]

You're still blowing hot air.

He's personal opinion about liking or not liking exclusives is irrelevant. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Did he actually claim Microsoft will bring all their games to Sony's platform?
If Jim Ryan offers an opinion about something, will that automatically become valid for Sony?

You still haven't figured it out? ... Microsoft's main objective for the future is to bring Gamepass to every platform, every console, every smartphone, everywhere!

[BehindTheRows]

I don't have a horse in the race. I'm pointing out what people are taking issue with. Had you not made the baseless FF claim, I'd have no issue with you at all.

To what's relevant — when Jim Ryan DOES have an opinion, particularly one he backtracks on, he'll be called out for it.

Regarding "figuring it out" — you simply listened to Phil Spencer telling you he wants to bring all their games to every platform, yet, has exclusives coming out. Until they bring everything to everything, it's the exact same thing as him saying he doesn't want exclusives. Sure, they don't HAVE to do anything (I agree with you there), but then, he should choose his words more carefully. As the main exec, what he says will always have a magnifying glass on them. He talks more than any exec at either Nintendo or PlayStation.

Otherwise, we're good man. I simply have a difference of opinion. I'm happy to agree to disagree.

[lelo2play]

Final Fantasy 15 likely sold one/two million copies on the Xbox (yes, it sold less then the Playatation version, but there's still money to be made). Do you honestly believe Square wasn't planing to bring FF7 Remake and FF16 to Xbox before the Sony deal? ... You can't be that naive...

[BehindTheRows]

I could be just as critical and ask if you are that naïve to really think Phil and co. want to bring everything to everything (this includes PlayStation). As they create exclusives from the multiplatform publishers they've purchased, it gets harder to believe that. Again, I know why, business is business, but goose → gander in regards to the question of naiveté.

In the meantime, yes, I can believe Square would be willing to skip Xbox regarding FF, as they would likely make those sales up on PlayStation considering its monstrous lead over Xbox in EU & JP. All speculative regardless, because no one here can prove Sony threw a single cent at Square for exclusivity, but even if they did, I get it due to those variables.

[masterfox]

in the long term (10 year period) this is what is going to happen imo:

* xbox console will disappear
* xbox will go like a netflix service
* all this MS adquisitions are meant for mobile gaming bussiness , sees The mobile Doom game
* lots of Activision / Bethesda IPs will disappear cause MS doesnt know how to manage IPs, they only care for the name brands that make money.
* Playstation will remain as the best gaming device due to they will keep making new fresh IPs and thriving technologically with Playstation hardware.
* A probably deal between Sony and MS so Playstation gets the xbox netflix service, Sony will go f×=#ukOff to MS due to Sony doesnt forget lying business corporations, like Sony and Nintendo.

this is just an opinion

[Lightning77]

Too bad MS said they're working on their next console lmao.

So much for your little wet dream.

[masterfox]

lol I knew about that information too before I wrote this.

[Neonridr]

a poorly written opinion

[BandarHub]

Actually it's the opposite.
Ms will establish the that streaming service through gamepass.
Its madness to think that the games from the acquisition is for mobile. It's the opposite as mobile users will be attracted to the gamepass console quality games on their phone which will be streamed on the cloud.
Consoles will disappear and PC device where you can natively play video games.

Gamepass will be the place where all publisher's release their game, including playstation and Nintendo.
They will use that service because playstation will not have the infrastructure to build a sustainable cloud service to compete. I think Nintendo might survive this as their market is more handheld, they don't thrive to create the most graphically best game but pricing for them will be a tough one.

People might think that streaming games is a bleak future but the era of home consoles is soon coming to an end. The dedicated gamers will all shift to PC for that console experience.

Streaming will not be bad because by 10 year time the technological improvements will be vaste and with the advent of AI there will be lots of problems being solved at a rapid pace.
The input controls would have been improve drastically but the best experience would always remain on Pc as it always will be.
The devices that people will stream on will be their phone and tablets for the casual. But for the traditional console gamer, the service will be built directly onto your TV and all you have to do to acces it would be playing a subscription.

[Aloymetal]

''Gamepass will be the place where all publisher's release their game, including playstation and Nintendo.''

Damn. This comment should go straight to psychology class about delusions. This is the main problem with you guys on the green side, when it comes to Xbox, so many of you have such a false sense of relevancy for your platform. Same goes for your games and services. Just so you know, gamepass is already 6 yrs old and it hasn't changed anything for the brand. Nada, zip, nothing!

BTW, I'm collecting comments like yours to review again at the end of this gen and possible the next one. Thanks for the contribution.

[shinoff2183]

Yea and jackasses like you will have ushered it in by sucking up everything ms does. Congrats u ruined gaming.

At no point should gaming should ever be tied to streaming only. That's the dumbest sh I ever heard. What happens when there's a storm , no internet. Happens quite a bit. Sure in 10 years maybe internet will be better throughout helleven the u.s. alone. Even if it is why would you want streaming only. Doesn't make sense. Nevermind I see. Ms told you it was the future and better for you.

[darkrider]

All beteshda games were deep in development to the ps4 and ps5. Microsoft is enable to say the truth. Anybody knows that any of those games were coming.... That's why they have such a bad name worldwide...

They should say :No comment.

It's the only path. If they had any transparency that would say. We pay to get beteshda and all those games will only come to Xbox consoles and pc. But that would damage the Activision deal...

[Lightning77]

"Microsoft is enable to say the truth."

Except they did, 2 Marches ago in video shortly after the BZ merger was final. phil said it himself that future games will ship on platforms where gamepass exist. Where have you been?

"They should say :No comment."

Why so you can say "they're hiding something and MS is giving them hush money to not say anything! They're sneaky lying snakes"

That would be your statement. I don't think you know how predictable you really truly are.

[-Foxtrot]

Oooft. You are really doing the rounds today.

Chill.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

We know which group crying about this but in the same breath saying Xbox has no exclusives... or Redfall sucks… or MSFT doesn’t make their own games.

[gerbintosh]

Don't know about redfall but all the other things you said are true. Trillion dollar company that can't develop games after 20 years, only buy them away

[343_Guilty_Spark]

😭

[Aloymetal]

100%
But you're wasting your precious time, you think the xbox fanbase care? Look at the response you got.. A freakin' emoji. Phil could announce tomorrow that there's a hot turd secretly packed inside each and every series console and they wouldn't flinch.

[thecodingart]

They didn’t pull Redfall, Starfield or Elder Scrolls.. lol

They pulled development yes

[JayRyu]

Exactly!
which they can totally choose to do when they bought the company.

[thecodingart]

I’m not vouching that’s a good thing. Their statements are sort of bullish and it’s basically the same thing.

[shinoff2183]

Maybe not in the literal sense of it was completed. But it was definitely canned and they came out and said the complete opposite. There's no denying that

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Why you're lying when in development they pulled ps5 version.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

PS was never announced. Try again!😭

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Nah read other articles fam.

[EvertonFC]

Regarding redfall I imagine they were about 75% done on the PS5 version so yes MS you pulled it.
What's pi**ing me off though with all this acquisition stuff so far is MS clearing thinking gamers are dumb fu*ks.
Do MS really think we're all going to believe all this BS they keep sprouting, they make themselves look like right tits to me and all they've done is push me away from there platforms not encourage me to actually buy a Xbox.
2 people I can't stand in life because of BS and that's Jeff bezos and bill gates, pricks the both of them.
Rant over 🤣😂

[Ristul]

Thats the thing I dont get with Microsoft, they piss people off and then expects them to buy their product? SMH...

[Ninver]

Now let the buying spree from both sides begin. This will only turn ugly. Just like the introduction of microtransactions during the 360 gen when MS backed it. Look were we are now. They're a disease in every industry they venture into. It's scary how the blind followers don't see the imminent danger ahead.

The only difference is ps gamers support devs and buy games. Xbox gamers clearly don't. What do you think will happen? MS better have an infinite amount of money to support these devs cause the gamers won't. I'd hate to see the studios go under due to lack of sales.

[BlaqMagiq1]

If that's the case then Sony didn't pull Silent Hill 2, FFXVI, and FF7 Remake from Xbox.

[mastershredder]

MS is looking like some royal shi7 sacks this gen.

[S2Killinit]

They lie so easy.

[IanTH]

It's pretty clear cut that they have. Sure, you could argue depending on your definition, but this is the definition I'll use here:

"If Microsoft hadn't purchased these publishers/developers, then those games would have come to PlayStation. They were being worked on with the intention of going to PS5. The fact they aren't now is 100% due to new ownership, and that owner saying "no PS5".

I don't think you can really argue they aren't taking games away from PlayStation here.

[Destiny1080]

you haven't read this comment

[gold_drake]

haha xD
"we never pulled it cause it never released on playstation"

but cancelled it, idiot. so stupid haha xD

[Exvalos]

Microsoft are some slick talkers over there, yes you can't technically pull something that wasn't released but it was in development for playstation and they stopped that version. Phil said everything going to be a case by case basis. Here is what's going to happen. Outside of elder scrolls online we are not getting anything from Bethesda ever again, and outside of call of duty anything Activision after diablo 4 is also gone.

[pitythefool]

If Redfall was in development for PS5 then it was taken away, well MS spent billions acquiring the studios it’s entirely up to them, that’s the way the mop flops, the way the cookie crumbles etc etc.

[melmacj]

Here’s the bottom line Microsoft is and will stop “new”titles from releasing on PlayStation to ensure gamepass Xbox success.This is their play no pun intended this gen. They’re doing this ahole like response and saying we’re not taking what should be “existing” titles away from PlayStation for PR reasons. If you want to play those games then just go get a pc or Xbox. Because gaming as we know it is about to split right down the middle thanks to both these aholes. I’m waiting for a few more titles to come from Sony to PC then I’m all in on PC. I’m on my soapbox but gaming didn’t start with Sony it been around for ages. I remember struggling with gamepad support in the 80s on PC. If they really gave a $hit about gaming I would’ve had my Xbox controller in the 80s. This is about money and monopoly. We don’t like the success of the other guy. It applies to all products and services.

[Terry_B]

Microsoft being Microsoft.

[Gaming4Life1981]

People are so delusional on this site lol. Redfall was never announced to be coming to ps but somehow it was taken from ps. Ms said they would honor any contracts ps had with Bethesda which they did. I guess ps fans want first party games to be multiplatform.

What's even funnier is that ps fans all over the net have been bashing redfall ever since it was announced but all of a sudden they need it and are upset it's not coming to ps.

[CptDville]

Yet.

[Mr Blings]

"Smith said Microsoft buying the studio allowed Arkane to focus on fewer platforms because PlayStation was no longer in the mix. Smith added that Redfall coming to Xbox Game Pass is a big deal because it expands the game's potential audience significantly."

Umm sure it does. Yes, you still have PC, but your only on the last place console.

Whatever, I have a PS5 which I mostly play, an X and have an S in house, which my son plays. But this is all pure corporate garbage speak.

I had each the original box and was online the day Xbox went live, had gawd probably 5 360s, skipped the one generation and really only came back because my wife found an X in 2020 before she was able to nab me a ps5.

I do like game pass. I've literally just bought 1 game since X/S launched everything else has been game pass games played.

I love the Zenimax studios, so it was a given I would have caved at some point regardless because of the acquisition. I could really care less about Activision. The only game bought was this year's COD because son pestering me. He played a few weeks and back to Fortnite, Madden, hockey and 2k basketball.

Game pass is great for him on the S minus the tiny storage for a 10 year old. I caved and bought him one of the overpriced proprietary ssds they are peddling.

I expanded ps5 for less than half the cost. If only I could have found another X the holiday prior when the S was the only thing besides a switch on shelf. Yes already have a switch. The switch NYXI Wizard is a solid 3rd party controller.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

PS fans got their wish. They’ll play on their Uber gaming rigs.

[BehindTheRows]

Enlighten - what wish was that?

[Thundercat77]

I like competition but I like fair and talented competition when the drive is creating better experiences. Remember Nintendo and Sega? They had a big battle competition but it was both companies creating their own content and not just blocking the competition by buying everyone else.

MS is not healthy for the industry.

[Neofire]

Lying mfs lol and you know why? It's because they lied about the Bethesda acquisition on top of other shit lol.

I doubt the devs said this and just pulled this out of nothing when they knew MS would see it.

[AnotherGamer]

But...they did lol.

[wesnytsfs]

They stopped funding a game for PS5. I see no problem with that its what happens when you own a dev.

[ModsDoBetter]

Microsoft trying to get out of this on a technicality as it hadn’t actually released on other platforms speaks volumes.

This will surely go against them in the drawn out Acti merger.

[Phantom68]

Whilst I appreciate Microsoft is well within its right to keep Bethesda’s/ZeniMax games exclusives to its console I find their comments misleading.
To say they ‘expanded the footprint of games that they shipped on Sony's PlayStation since the acquisition of ZeniMax’ which is frankly a lie given Sony had timed exclusivity agreements in place with Bethesda prior to Microsoft's purchase therefore both Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo (the 2 titles which shipped after the transaction took place) were always going to launch on PS5 whether they liked it or not.
The fact of the matter is that they have not expanded the footprint of games shipped on PlayStation beyond any existing legal and contractual agreement.
They can try to fool people but anyone that has a minimum degree of intelligence can check the facts.
As I said, I stand by the fact that once Microsoft purchase a developer or a publisher they have the right to make the games made by those companies exclusive to their ecosystem but I would have appreciated a more honest response about the fact they halted development of Redfall and, in fact they also halted development of Starfield.
Honesty goes a long way and it is so much needed for a company like Microsoft which has a record of not keeping the promises they made as they hide behind PR speak.

[Ethereal]

Come up with any argument you want but the fact of the matter is that Redfall, Starfield, and The Elder Scrolls would have absolutely released in the PS ecosystem. They now have control over these IP and it is completely within their power to dictate where games get released. They aren't making themselves look good through all this though with the pending Activision acquisition.