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But Cyberpunk is a Great Game, Though

Mike & Alex have spent a week navigating the controversy surrounding Cyberpunk. While the overwhelming majority of commentators remain fixated on consumerist pet causes, the quality and content of the game (in its optimal state) has largely been forgotten. This episode features a continued discussion of why this approach is misguided… at least for people who care about video games. Also treating the greasy post-launch addition of a paid EXP boost to AC Valhalla.

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RazzerRedux1259d ago (Edited 1259d ago )

Opinions, I think it is......though. Far from perfect, but overall it is great to me

ziggurcat1259d ago

The bugs makes the game objectively not good.

GreenDragonCVR1258d ago

The bugs make it... wait for it... a great game with bugs! Woah, never seen THAT before. Get yer cameras!

For reals tho, we are simply arguing that, esp considering the existence of an optimal build, the bugs are a matter of expression of the game (not the thing being expressed). Akin to "gum on my seat in theater, bad movie" or "smudged words on page, terrible novel 1/10". The lies are a consumer matter, not anything to do with the game OBJECTIVELY. An investor matter too incidentally, looks like there might even be criminal charges.

Least they shat out gold one last time before embarrassing themselves and getting sent to prison LOL.

RazzerRedux1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@GreenDragonCVR

"Least they shat out gold one last time before embarrassing themselves and getting sent to prison LOL."

Are you being serious? You think class action lawsuits are due to crimes committed? Prison? Is that supposed to be a joke?

lonewolf101258d ago

I'm enjoying too it on PC, only a few bugs where I had to restart from an autosave and the odd glitch. About 40 hours in now on 1st play through, a solid 8-9/10 from me. Shame it has been marred by the last gen console version.

gamer78041258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

Sure @ziggurcat objectively the bugs in the game are bad, bugs in any game are bad but the game overall imo is really good and I think overtime it will be great. If you don’t like the game outside the bugs that’s fine all preference.

Dragonscale1258d ago

Agreed razzer, some people would hate on this game even if it was perfect.

RazzerRedux1258d ago

@Dragonscale

It is crazy. We had some posters here jumping on the game the minute the first sub-8 scored review came out. It was as if they just couldn't wait to pounce on this game and would be disappointed if it were actually good. That kind of shit is dumbfounding. I want every game to be great.

Dee_911258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@RazzerRedux
thats your opinion
here's a fact
they lied about the state the game to its largest consumer base.
Like I said you can enjoy the game all you want, but I just don't see the fascination with telling people whose clearly not happy after waiting years, how happy you are with the game.. like what do you expect exactly ? lol

RazzerRedux1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@Dee_91

Are you serious? There are plenty of games out there that I despise that others love. So what? Should I tell these people to shut up because it hurts my feelings that they are enjoying something I don't? That's basically what you are saying and frankly, that's just bullshit.

If someone is offended by others thinking this game is great then they probably should not have clicked on a post on n4g titled: "But Cyberpunk is a Great Game, Though"

You should be asking those people what THEY expect. Not me.

Dee_911257d ago

@RazzerRedux

Are you intentionally missing the point? A vast majority of the fan base, the devs and even sony thinking the game isn't up the par, and publishers flat out lying isn't the equivalent to you in particular not liking some random video game that others like...
Whose offended? I think it's more so counter productive. You're making it personal because you're intentionally missing the point, to try to make a point.. 🙄 and on that note im over it.

RazzerRedux1257d ago

@Dee_91

No, I understand the point entirely. You are whining about me saying I'm enjoying the game when there are people who are not happy with the game. How dare I have an opinion that goes against the "vast majority"....is that it? Guess what? Not everyone is having the same experience with this game. The primary issues here are with base last gen consoles. Did I come in here pulling out the "PC master race" card and making fun of console owners for their bad experience? Not at all. I stated my opinion that agrees with the damn article title. And for that....you got butthurt. Oh f*cking well.

"Whose offended?"

lol...you are. It is so obvious.

"You're making it personal because you're intentionally missing the point, to try to make a point."

That's a lie. You came after me here so stop pretending that I made it personal. You made it out like I was enjoying rubbing it people's faces that I enjoy the game or some such bullshit which I never did.

"and on that note im over it."

Good.

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RazzerRedux1259d ago

"The bugs makes the game objectively not good."

I disagree. And that is an opinion. It is not objective.

Omegasyde1258d ago

Game doesn’t work for many and riddles with bugs but gets a pass because of the story?

This is sad.

RazzerRedux1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@Omegasyde

Who said "because of the story"? I like the gameplay and I like the RPG elements like the cyberware mods. And yeah, the story is great too.

What is "sad" is people having a problem with others actually liking a game as if it is personally offensive. That is quite sad.

DJStotty1257d ago

That is the day and age of films/gaming, if someone gets offended they strive to get the film/game banned or discredit it.

I'm just glad i'm a guy where absolutely nothing offends me, and on topic, can not wait to play this game.

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RazzerRedux1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

You are seriously trying to tell me that my opinion is objectively wrong and your opinion is objectively right?

Seriously? You know that is not true.

InUrFoxHole1258d ago

Dude give it a break. The game is trash. Now thats not to say once it's fixed it'll be a great game. As it stands though... trash

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DJStotty1257d ago

@InUrFoxHole

That's like saying a Mclaren P1 car is "trash" because you can't drive it.

The same applies here, a game is not "trash" just because some people have issue with the content.

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CrimsonWing691258d ago

Funny how opinions work. I hate the bugs, but the game itself is pretty great. You take the bugs out it’ll still be the same game... just without the bugs. Removing the bugs doesn’t change it into some totally different game. Let’s be real, here.

Omegasyde1258d ago

There’s quests that can be completed because of bugs. So yea it does change the game when fixed

CrimsonWing691258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

@Omegasyde

Yea, the change is the bugs not the game or the mission; all of the game still will be the same. That’s my point. Bugs get fixed and the game is still the same game. Not rocket surgery, here.

Shiken1258d ago

As someone who has not had any crashed for performance issues (quality mode) on my Series X, I can tell you that it is indeed a great game. Anyone that got burned on last gen consoles def deserves their money back, which they are getting. Having said that, I will not shit on the devs that worked hard to make a great game just because a few people in management dropped the ball. The actual Devs themselves had nothing to do with this disaster of a launch.

Artemidorus1258d ago

It is but you can't see past the bugs.

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NovusTerminus1258d ago

As someone who has not encountered any glitches, and just dealt with slightly low performance (50ish fps on PC) I think it's an alright game.

RgR1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

Neither is the last of us 2...see we all have opinions.

Bad writing and story makes it subjectively or objectively bad.

How about for those not experiencing horrible bugs?

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Knightofelemia1258d ago (Edited 1258d ago )

When working the game I am liking it but they need to fix the way the cars drive in the game they seriously drive like shit, That shitty free go kart in GTA drives better then half the cars in Cyberpunk just waiting to see if the game has a soft lock glitch that you can't get around that is a game breaker in my eyes. The whole have ability to say what you want in a conversation pressing down on the d pad needs to be fixed in a way that hampers the game and the outcome you choose. If I had to do this all over again I should have waited then got the game.

AspiringProGenji1258d ago

I am playing it on PC and it os indeed awesome, but there are a lot of problems that reviewers did not mention with the Open world design

- The NPCs being advance and whatever was a lie. Their movements is all scripted and won’t react much to you or say anything interesting other than one line

-The City, while it is dense, it starts to feel lifeless when certain issues break your immersion: NPC drivers will stop if you pull over the car. They do not react to anything other than scripted AI, the wanted system is shit, the gangs and police AI suck ass, and you can’t change Some of your character’s haircut after you create One. You can’t also customize the car.

To me some of this missing/disappointing features show that the game was not ready to ship. I hope CDPR can fix some of this stuff later. But as it stands, great game on PC.

Aussiesummer1257d ago

Mentioning all those things and still the game is great? Wtf is wrong with people, are their no standards anymore?

lilrizq1203d ago

If you've played The Witcher 3 then the NPCs not reacting to you much or only saying 1 line shouldn't be nothing new. I expected Cyberpunk's open world to be similar to The Witcher's open world. And even tho I hated that about The Witcher 3, the missions and the storyline made up for it. Same goes for Cyberpunk.

Rimeskeem1258d ago

The game itself is great, it has lots of fun content, customization, super moddable, great atmosphere, great story, fun characters, solid controls, and good graphics.

But is has game breaking glitches and bugs that just ruin the above hence spoiling whatever greatness could have been.

Aussiesummer1257d ago

No, it also has lifeless npc's, a stupid wanted system, cops that spawn right behind you and can't drive, that's just a few things that aren't bugs but design choices....how is that great?

Toiletsteak1258d ago

I refunded it because it ran poorly but those who don't mind as much have all said the game is fantastic, so hopefully they can fix a lot of issues ASAP and I will get the game again.

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Cyberpunk 2077 Support Concludes As CDPR Turns Focus Towards Next Witcher Title & Other Projects

CD Projekt has concluded support work on Cyberpunk 2077, as the studio has turned focus towards the next Witcher and several other projects.

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DustMan2d ago

Such a great game. Recently started another playthrough.

Aussiesummer2d ago

I really have to get back into it, didn’t even get half way through, have the dlc and everything too.

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Cyberpunk 2077 Director On 95% Positive Steam Rating: "Never Thought I'd See It"

Cyberpunk 2077 has come a long way from being one of the worst games on the planet to being one of the best ones.

DustMan16d ago

I shelved it after a few hours in game at launch, glad I didn't refund it. One of the few games I've actually completed in the last year, and after finishing the campaigns I wanted to just jump back in from the start. They pulled a No Mans Sky and finished one of the best FPS in the last few years.

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Games That Were Bad on Release, But Are Now Great

BLG writes, "Some of the most popular games have had a rough start, with some of them being downright unplayable.

Despite that, developers have managed to turn it around for them and make their game worth playing. Here are some games that had a rough start but were pretty great."

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Terry_B28d ago

Good list..hoped to see Street Fighter 5 there..and it is.

Vits28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Sea of Thieves... I'm not disagreeing that the game has improved in terms of content. But I feel that the most significant change between now and its release is actually the public perception. Nowadays, most people are aware that the game is a multiplayer PvP-focused experience first and foremost, and not "Black Flag made by Rare". Consequently, people dismissing the whole experience because the single-player aspect is lacking or the story is plain are much less common.

darthv7228d ago

Several years ago, i submitted an idea to Rare that would change up the mechanics of battling opponents in the game. whereby if you died in battle, you turned into a skeleton warrior and had to fight your way back to the land of the living. It was an interesting twist on respawning and would allow the player to experience both sides of a battle.

I keep hoping to see something like that get added to the game.

Kaii28d ago

They consider FO 76 & ME Andromeda to be great now 🤭

anast27d ago

Every game in the last 2 decades...

INMATEofARKHAM27d ago

It's sad that this quick retort is more often than not true... The industry's acceptance of release and patch has gone too far.

gunnerforlife27d ago

Days gone! By the end of the game I couldn't drop it down! I went around so many hours killing zombies! It was addictive by the end.

S2Killinit27d ago

That game was just plain good game. It didnt improve, it was just good.

gunnerforlife27d ago

I don't know, I got it abit late, and struggled for a few days, and then all of a sudden it just got good!!

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