Could The PS5 Be The Most Impactful Home Console Ever?

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On this week’s show we discuss the PS5’s SSD and how it might be way more important than most are letting on. We dive into the highway robbery that is the Game Gear Micro, discuss who Xbox could gain some sort of traction in Japan, and so much more

[Minute Man 721]

Wait til DF breaks down this console.

[Atticus_finch]

You won't like that either. Lol

[SamTheGamer]

Yeah right. 😂

[Minute Man 721]

Why bro???? I got no problems with the PS5

[Shane Kim]

Agree with minute man. Let us see these consoles in action first.

[Thundercat77]

Before, when MS started with their Teraflops propaganda, many jumped to say the the Xbox was going to be superior but now that devs are saying that the PS5 is going to be superior, some say, "let's wait til DF".

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Richard isn't a shill at all, notice how DF have stopped 'if we zoom in 400%' shenanigans on their videos.

I've already heard all I need to from John, Tim and especially Mark.

PS5 is a game changer - by the time the market catching up, they'll be releasing their 2nd batch of 1st larty titles.

And theyll likely blow away the 1st batch of titles that have already blown the industry and gamers away.

[Babadook7]

Spider-Man 2 going to be spectacular with that I/o.

[cabbitwithscissors]

They'll be doing their best to downplay the differences, and probably say buy the game for the console that you prefer rather than getting the game on the best platform available which they would probably do if the XSX was the one on top.

[CaptainHenry916]

Wait til DF breaks down the upcoming exclusives

[neutralgamer1992]

Can't wait to see what sony will showcase at the event. GT and demon souls are pretty much confirmed

Horizon 2 gameplay
Possibly socom reboot

Just throwing out my thoughts no inside information

[Scissorman82]

I need that Silent Hill reboot too. :)

[neutralgamer1992]

Scissorman82

It feels like that's the worst kept secret in gaming

[mandf]

Where is the info on demon souls

[morganfell]

Info on Bloodborne surfaced too.

[neutralgamer1992]

mandf

It's been confirmed by pretty much anyone and everyone who could have inside information including the guy who use to be at kotaku jason

[morganfell]

I can't imagine what it would be like on my 3 favorite maps in Breach - Sujo, Sandstorm, and my personal favorite because it was the hardest to win as a SEAL, Enowapi. I miss hearing Feral yell Frag Out! and the sound of an M14 running.

[remixx116]

No frostfire or desert glory?? Come on homie those are classics.

[neutralgamer1992]

morganfell

A complete edition of BB with dlc with 60FPS at native 4k and no loading or bare minimum loading would be good for fans

[NotoriousWhiz]

A socom remake would be a day one buy for me. I'd have to see if I could get my old college roommates to join me since we used to play socom 2 together on the PS2.

[morganfell]

Those are classics and so is Fish Hook. But I am referring only to the Breach Maps from SOCOM 2 :)

[morganfell]

@Neutral,

I can't but help feel that is coming. We may not see it on Thursday but I definitely think its in the cards.

[remixx116]

Broooo I would killll for a socom 2 remake

[DFresh]

Honestly just give me good games to play.
All of that tech stuff is nice but it means nothing if you can’t show it.
The only games that will push these consoles are exclusives.
Multiplatforms will be made at the lowest common denominator to run on most systems regardless of tech specs.
Common sense.

[Software_Lover]

This GEN is going to be great lol.

[Petebloodyonion]

Can we stop with the articles from average Joe telling us that SSD is possibly the best thing in the world?
Honestly, we Have Matt a great dev on a gaming forum that states it's the best.
Who's Matt and what's his resume? no clue but we should listen cause he's Matt.

And now we have theses guy that believes that it will be better because they can analyze past article from other average joe that worked on small single indies says so and repeat what they said.

How about this: let's judge the systems when they will be out and let's go back to having gaming news instead of 30000 opinions pieces on what random Joe believe.

[Scissorman82]

If you listened to the podcast, it wasn't about what some 'average joe that worked on a small indie game' said. The basis was the recent remarks from Epic Games and how they had to go back and rewrite code for Unreal Engine 5 due to the PS5's SSD.

[Petebloodyonion]

Yeah, guys that got paid by Sony to have the Unreal engine reveal on a Sony presentation.
What do you expect them to say:
It's like Remedy about how Microsoft's Quantum Break's cinematics cutscenes were the best things and it was the ultimate Remedy experience.

And a logical question, why would Epic develop the Unreal engine 5 with the PS5 in mind instead of EPIC Game Store?

[sinspirit]

@Petebloodyonion

They didn't recieve any payment. Sweeney even said on twitter that there is no secret deal. The PS5 SSD is the showcase for their engine because their data throughput is the most advanced and makes more use of their tech. Even saying that when they got hands on it that they had to push the technology much further to make use of its SSD. Epic and Sony have also helped develop this technology together.

"And a logical question, why would Epic develop the Unreal engine 5 with the PS5 in mind instead of EPIC Game Store?"

You're serious? Have you even read or watched one thing about the SSD? SSD's on PC are bottlenecked hard. The PS5 SSD and all the I/O throughput allows full SSD speed straight into the VRAM. Even the highest end PC has severe bottlenecks where you only essentially observe SSD's at high speed when you transfer a file. You get nowhere close to the SSD's speed during any other use. This demo is currently only available on PS5 using the settings they have in the trailer. It's currently impossible to push that amount of data straight into VRAM on PC for a scene so complex.

[russo121]

It seems you're truly affected. Stay away from the internet, essentially Thursday.

[Petebloodyonion]

I Don't have a problem with the Ps5 nor the event (actually looking forward to it) just tired of opening this site with the 3000000 articles about how X dude believes that PS5 SSD or Serie X tFlob is the best thing and will dominate the other.
Did you know Valorant came out? you know the big game that supposed to dethrone Overwatch that headlined the majority of other gaming sites.
My point more games coverage and less beaten dead horse opinion pieces.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Pete - And you have John and Tim, BOTH industry legends. And John is a PC die-hard, one who was always shitting on consoles.

They're the people you listen to, quite rightly not random devs.

But the legends.

[Petebloodyonion]

And are the hosts named Jim? or Tim? No, they are 2 guys that host a podcast and are discussing gaming news and took 15 minutes to talk about PS5 SSD by discussing Epic's situation that they rewrote part of their code to due to PS5 and they proceed to have a discussion on will this change the face of how devs work or will only Sony's 1st party devs will use this.
Now I don't have a problem with them having a talk show like I don't have a problem with a discussion in a forum.
But is it normal that on today June 8th the top news of this site are almost all opinion pieces on Ps5 SSD?
Article 1)
https://n4g.com/news/235048...
Article 2)
https://n4g.com/news/235031...
Article 3) is this one

Again my point is that's basically been N4G for the last 3 weeks ( and you can add the regular article about Backward compatibility).

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Pete - Mate you've gotta slow down, John Carmack - heard of him? Tim Sweeney - surely you know who that is. He's the guy you're accusing of being paid off. You know he owns EPIC? Not short on coin if catch my drift.

What would he gain by promoting PS5? U5 is middleware available on all platforms (it had to be re-written to accommodate the PS5 - but that's a story for another day).

You can bet your bottom dollar that John Carmack would sling mud at PS5 is it wasn't the real deal.

Wait until Thursday and enjoy the show - its going to be brutal on the haters.

[Petebloodyonion]

I do know who John and Tim are and have no problem with an article when they are giving their statements
But this article isn't John and Tim, it's 2 podcasters (that could be you and me) discussing on a podcast like ppl talking on this thread. Now should there be an article about the thread? or How about every Youtube video discussing the subject?
And yes really looking forward to Thursday in hoping that I will be blown away.
How about a new Jumping Flash game that could showcase the PS5? Muuu Muuu

[Gamingsince1981]

"I Don't have a problem with the Ps5 nor the event (actually looking forward to it) just tired of opening this site with the 3000000 articles about how X dude believes that PS5 SSD or Serie X tFlob is the best thing and will dominate the other."

except no one but MS themselves (and n4g xbox fanboys) are saying the xbox series x will dominate because of its flops. Its all devs saying the PS5 will dominate. let that sink in.

[Petebloodyonion]

Well Here's what "Matt" had to say regarding Serie X
"I have a ton of good to say about the SX. It’s an fantastic box that I’m incredibly excited for, and it has a power advantage over the PS5 in many ways. It is also capable of doing things the PS5 can’t or can’t do as well.

They are both great machines and can both be appreciated.
The SX more conventional than the PS5, and therefore less novel to talk about. It’s still a stronger system in many ways."
https://www.resetera.com/th...
and since Matt is a real credible source for this article that is currently the biggest one on the site.
https://n4g.com/news/235031...
Then I guess that's mean that there's at least one dev bla bla bla.

Again my point 1) Who the Flack is Matt?
2) Do we need countless articles from forum guy, pod cast guy, etc. giving their opinions about what systems or feature is better when we have yet to see a real playable demo

And trust me I would want nothing more to have next-gen built on new ideas and new ways to play compare to 8k /300 frames seconds and the same COD/GTA/Ubisoft game that we have been playing since 2005.

[Starman69]

This is some mega hot secret sauce!!! 🤣

[arminukxbox]

Secret sauce is coming soon to your home in holiday 2020

[cabbitwithscissors]

Secret sauce is the ability to use the audio processor for compute on PS5. Cerny said so in his Road to PS5 talk.

[Fishy Fingers]

Weird.. when i click the link I get:

"Could The PS5 Be The Most Impactful Home Console Ever?"

[technophobia]

Right? Surely taking liberties with the title on N4G is frowned upon, no?

At any rate, I like it posed as a question rather than a statement.

[Wikkid666]

Cell Processor 2.0

[Tross]

I'm super stoked!

[Destiny1080]

Streaming in an entire area as you turn your head will lead to insane level of detail

Developers have been given an insane amount of freedom thanks to the fastest SSD on the planet

[Wikkid666]

It's far from the fastest SSD

[Atticus_finch]

On console it is.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Sweeny said fastest "in its class."

Let's keep the truth and facts correct. Sony don't need misinformation.

[CaptainObvious878]

"Sony don't need misinformation."

Exactly, my friend, exactly.

It's funny, I haven't heard any of the ms fans mocking the ps5's secretly sauce lately, now that a lot of devs are talking. They came out from under their bridges in droves at the start of the year when ms showed some flashy, but ultimately shallow trailers and thumping their chests about tflops, but now I see it's only just the usual suspects that are left in the comment section. This Thursday might really put a damper in their spirits.

[Poopmist]

Probably won't be as impactful as the NES. I don't see any console affecting gaming history like it did.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

The NES to me was the first console that looked almost as good as ARCADE CABINETS and was affordable , 75 US bucks , which is why i bought it back in 1987 .

[Starman69]

Super Mario bros 3 was like boom!! 🤯

[hanko14]

ever created, lol. it hasnt been revealed yet.

[ARZ1990]

Hopefully we could get Bloodborne 2 and a remake of Syphon Filter

[Spenok]

I was planning on listening to their podcast (I usually don't) until the first solid 2+ minutes was virtue signaling.

[silenthillstrangler]

I'm hoping for some killer new ips, also for the bloodborne remake to be true. I can't wait to experience whether the tempest engine really is a game changing audio solution and what the ds5 can actually do.

[averagejoe26]

Duh.

We already know it won't be the new Xbox. It's lack of exclusives, focus on old games and standard architecture won't be doing much for the industry.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

LOL, every console generation they say the same thing, doesn't matter if it's PS, Xbox or Nintendo. smh.

[littletad]

Lord, in what universe are we living in where a secret sauce SSD is all of a sudden better than overall specs.

[CaptainObvious878]

Lol, speak of the devil.

Look at my last comment.

[gamerben]

Nah, it's too late for any console to do that imo.

[Kaedro]

Yes

[ironmonkey]

Round 1 round 2? Nope, sony destroyed ms before even showing anything. Ps5 destruction incoming.

[DVAcme]

No one's gonna take that title away from the good ol' NES. That console literally resurrected the industry. And if we went with more recent ones, the PS1 has that title.

[GamingInFrames]

Not if it's stuck at 30fps, and the same goes for MS.

[Silly gameAr]

Most people won't give a shit if it's stuck at 30. You overestimate how much people who only want to play games care about that.

[MecheSlays]

Idk. Probably as impactful as 360's unified shader architecture.

[AK91]

Possibly but I still think PS2 reigns supreme in that department.

[mike32UK]

Sony are gonna smash it, I can feel it. If you bare in mind they purposefully haven't revealed any new AAA exclusive games since 2016 from their first party studios! Thats crazy. I get the feeling they're wanting to move away from the habit of showing games too early (enter The Last of Us part2).

[Wontime1]

"On this week’s show we discuss the PS5’s SSD and how it might be way more important than most are letting on"..........seriously, is that even possible, weve been hearing about the ssd like it's the reinvention of the wheel

[Weapon_of_choice]

Only Sony and Nintendo have does awesome exclusives you need to play and can not play play anywhere else. Sounds like solid marking to me, bringing them success every since the PS1 and NES👍💕✊

[Yodasfavoritesoda]

No it won’t. It’s gonna be a dud

[NextGenCeo]

Yes it will be.

[Max_Eckhardt]

Yes!

[SimpleSlave]

Well if you swing it hard enough I have no doubt the impact will be brutal. So sad!!!