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Microsoft and 2K pick sides in the battle between Epic and Steam

It's starting to feel like Epic is picking all the good players for dodgeball, and Valve is just standing there. But that's not quite true.

The store exclusivity drama is only going to heighten from here.

Cobra9511850d ago

"Exclusivity"--no; I still don't get it. I get that God of War is exclusive, because I have an Xbox and not a PS4. But my PC is wide open to all comers. Nothing is excluded from me there, regardless of who sells it to me.

Eonjay1850d ago (Edited 1850d ago )

This! Store Wars is a new low for the media.

Teflon021850d ago

What features are available have exclusivity though. I love my steam achievements and if it's not a multiplayer game I want all my achievements etc under one umbrella.

Spartacus101850d ago

The better solution to that problem would be a standardised achievements system run by an independent organisation.

Telling devs which stores they should sell their games on just so that you can keep your achievements in one place is like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Zeref1850d ago

lol you're the only person that gives af about steam achievements

TheColbertinator1850d ago

Basically the best way to look at this scenario. EGS or Steam or Origin are all just the choices available on PC. Nothing more complicated than that.

Atom6661850d ago

Until those choices offer a more complete and comparable experience to Steam, it is a bit more complicated.

Epic is apparently working on it, but it's the the fact that many gamers have been enjoying many of these features for years on Steam, but can't on these timed "exclusives," that has caused the biggest issues.

If Epic sticks to their plan, maybe most of these complaints will die down.

https://wccftech.com/epic-g...

Father__Merrin1850d ago

Atom666 the android store sounds very good

ILostMyMind1850d ago

Congratz! You are a normal person.

babadivad1849d ago

Epic needs user reviews. It's the reason a lot of gamers are bent about Epic "exclusivity". It weighted too much towards the publishers. And it seems publishers are paying to keep it that way.

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Teflon021850d ago

I think it's a bad time for PC gaming. A year ago was a great time. Everything basically releases on PC now, Steam was looked at as the platform for PC outside specifics which was fine etc. Everything was simple and such. Then Discord and Epic opens stores and epics using all it's fortnite money to make a mess out of PC gaming. I only went to PC because of Steams ability to unify the PC space and make everything enjoyable under 1 umbrella. Epic thankfully hasn't grabbed a game I care for but they're doing the thing that made me avoid PC gaming all this time. Like Unreal and fortnite I wouldn't complain about. I don't complain about Black Ops 4, Destiny or Overwatch etc. Ubisoft allows buying of most games on Steam still, just connected to Uplay etc. That's all fine. But the moment it became a platform paying to take exclusives away like Rise of the Tomb Raider was. It's a problem. I think indies going to Epic makes sense and I wouldn't be mad at that. But games with initial intentions to release on Steam but change because of a timed exclusive money hat lol. That's a mess. Epics has shown the lack of care for anyone but themselves and are trying to mask it in the devs 12% vs 30% situation. Why? Because they're the same ppl who had the nerve to actually release Fortnite on Android through installing a unofficial apk because they didn't want to share profits with the platform holder. They're just selfish and greedy. It's the same ploy MS pulls with the crossplay, they're only willing to share games with Switch because Sony said no to the XBL request and that's the main competitor. The moment sony started, they stopped until they found out it isn't exactly as easy to get the okay as ppl hoped. Then they started with sharing games lol. Hell, MS probably isn't having the BS and why it's MCC is coming to steam lol. Because they could have been a MS store exclusive

franwex1850d ago

“Top 10 anime betrayal..”

Wtf? I’ve never heard that expression before, hahaha

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knickstr1850d ago

Why is it that they're pushing so hard for exclusivity. Why cant games release on both platforms? The problem is that Epic knows it's the far inferior store and to compensate they're just going to throw a lot of money at the big publishers and devs to buy exclusivity. So instead of actually building up their store to legitimately compete with steam they've opted to hold games hostage. Just make sure you never have a card on file in the Epic store.

Spartacus101850d ago

If you're a dev, the inferior store is the one that makes you less money, and I highly doubt devs would have signed exclusivity deals with Epic if they thought they could have made more on Steam. Lets not pretend that Epic have a gun pointed at the devs heads when they sign exclusivity. They do it because its benefits them more than steam does.
I cant wait until the arrogance of valve/steam gets the better of them.

FGHFGHFGH1850d ago

Epic is paying publishers for exclusives aren't they? LOL what arrogance of steam? Do you have something to prove steam is beng "arrogant"? What do you have against steam if you don't even play games on pc? 30% is industry standard and what microsoft, sony, google etc all charge.

Seafort1849d ago

You do realise that Epic are paying ($2m+) these devs to be exclusive and are also guaranteeing a revenue if they get low sales. This is not a self sustaining agreement but a short term investment by Epic to get more people to their store and undercutting the established market. They are literally removing already Steam marketed games from Steam and making them exclusive to their store for a year or more.

If this isn't anti-competitive and anti-consumer with a dose of monopoly I don't know what is.

Fluttershy771849d ago

Or if you look at it from the other side the problem is Steam never really had any competition

knickstr1849d ago

I agree that Steam needs competition, but this ain't it. People get upset when Sony or Microsoft buy a multiplatforms exclusivity so why should this be any different?

Fluttershy771849d ago (Edited 1849d ago )

Well for me the difference is that Sony and Nintendo are making games, making exclusives, trying to make advances in the media, taking risks (not so much Microsoft but even them); instead Valve is playing completely safe since I don't remember when. When was the last time they released a game?... I honestly don't know, all these years and they did nothing with what it should be their exclusives: Half Life, Team Fortress, Portal, Counter... These are the games that for sure will never have an exclusivity deal with Epic, but, who cares? They are dead. Valve choose to let their ip's die and hold the platform- that they don't own- as a hostage, sucking the blood out of PC gamers... Well now they have competition.

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Summer Game Fest 2024 and games conference schedule: All conference dates, times and streams

A schedule for all of the currently announced game conferences in June 2024, including the Summer Game Fest 2024 date and times.

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Lightning7711h ago

For the first time in a long time I have a hard time feeling excited for these events. Maybe it's because of all these massive lay offs and closures there hasn't exactly been good news since the start of the year.

Maybe come next week I'll get a little more excited but I dunno I just can't get too excited right now

thorstein9h ago

Maybe it will be an indie showcase.

Cacabunga4h ago

Cancelling e3 and introducing some ridiculous events..
Times have changed.. to the worse

Lightning773h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Back then it was very exciting, great looking trailers, on stage live gameplay where yes things can and have went wrong but that's how we knew it was a real games being played instead of curated footage extra doctored up that didn't even represent the actual game half the time. Games would release 6 months to a year max not 3 years later.

I miss past E3's even the goofiness like Giant enemy crab or Riiiidge Raceeer. Xbox and Kinect glitching Nintendo's craziness. Again it was real, these days there so protective, clean, doctored sets, where nothing can absolutely go wrong. Too strict and professional with heavy PR babble with buzzwords that mean nothing. Being professional is not bad but when it's fake and corporate heavy where you're made to buy into the words rather than the game, that's how you know it's not real.

Now SFG is just sizzle reeling all the games at once. Plus past SGF events haven't been that great either. Maybe that's not Geoffs fault but the pubs and devs are simply never ready to show anything and have to wait. This gen we've been waiting and waiting for these games.

Plus lay offs as I Mentioned. I dunno Geoff needs to do what made E3 great back then, get funding support and do live stage gameplay he has the support and so why not? Pubs and devs need to do their own thing at the event again. No more doctored bull crap with PR diarrhea trying to sell the game show us with a controller in your hand instead of making empty promises.

Rant over.

Cacabunga3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Lightning

I will never forget the pre-e3 one year where Kojima was teasing MGS Rising.. and Peace Walker.

Such an incredible period where studios enjoyed what they were doing and teasing their work weeks before the event.

Nowadays is half baked games, cross gen titles, useless mid gen upgrades. There is no hype anymore.
Last great show I remember is the PS EXPERIENCE maybe 3 or 4 years ago in December

gleepot2h ago

Maybe it's because Keighley sucks and never puts on good showcases.

Lightning771h ago

They aren't geoffs games he's not makin it. Though you're half right, he has the stage and events and controls the pace, how the games are shown and presented. If I was him I would have devs have real gameplay with a stage like how E3 used to be.

No more of this curated pre done footage that we've had in the past 4 years.

Actually before that they've been doing that format for awhile. Cyber Punk being the biggest culprit of that format because you can easily deceive and lie to ppl.

Yeah Geoff is half to blame

isarai6h ago

Is it just me or is there little to no buzz or marketing leading up to this compared to previous SGF?

monkey6022h ago

Because they've been consistently boring for the last couple of years. Hard to get worked up for it now

bRuud834h ago

Where is Sony? Still no news about the next Playstation showcase.

VR23h ago

It'll be June sometimes no doubt, I'm guessing the Saturday 10th the day after Xbox showcase or maybe sometime the following week

Lightning771h ago

Hopefully early next week at this point they are signed to SGF so they'll be there.

I also said in another post it's rumored to be a State Of Play now. The only AAA's I can see being announced now is Ghost 2 and Bends New game.

I can't see Santa Monica's New IP or ND New IP being announced. I can see GG being there announcing leggo Horizon, Zero Dawn remake or remaster, maybe the LS horizon game.

Skuletor1h ago

After the way they rudely hurried people off the stage at The Game Awards, I won't bother watching any of the streams for this. I'll just checkout out a few game trailers on Youtube after they're uploaded there.

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Boosteroid Plans On Adding More AAAA Titles Exclusively To The Service

The VP of Marketing at Boosteroid revealed that the company is in talks with major publishers to secure exclusive games on the service.

Relientk771d 18h ago

So they're adding Skull and Bones to their service? That doesn't seem exciting at all lol.

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The DevGAMM conference is returning to Lisbon (Portugal) on November 14th, 2024

"Following a great event in November of last year, DevGAMM Lisbon is coming back to the beautiful and sunny Cascais region to catch up with old friends, connect with game developers from around the world, hear from seasoned professionals, and have a great time all around." - DevGAMM.