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Microsoft's Bringing Xbox Live to Android and iOS

Microsoft's bringing Xbox Live services to iOS and Android with a new SDK that opens the door to a lot more than simply matchmaking.

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lxeasy1905d ago

I wonder when Project X Cloud will be ready for the masses. 'm ready to stream my Xbox Games on my phone when I'm traveling.

Eonjay1905d ago

There is a beta later this year.

bouzebbal1905d ago

Just release it on PS consoles already..
Maybe that can give vita a second life

81BX1905d ago

@bouzebbal
That would be awesome for gamers

Kingthrash3601905d ago

If ps now couldn't do it.....

luckytrouble1905d ago

I hope you don't expect anything even remotely functional. Game streaming requires a stable, high speed connection. Variable 4G speeds will not be even remotely fast or stable enough for a passable experience.

NarutoFox1905d ago

Facts. Gotta wait for 5G speeds

Sophisticated_Chap1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

We have to wait for millimeter wave, cancer causing, mind control 5G internet tech, which will give the masses latency free internet connectivity. Self driving cars will also require 5G.

luckytrouble1905d ago

Honestly, even with 5G, you might get high enough speeds to get decent streaming when close enough to a tower, but the big problem of speed consistency will never go away. Coverage nets for every major provider basically the world over has massive holes, and even when an area is actually covered, I'm sure everyone with a smartphone has experienced a time where within half a block they went from seemingly a full strength connection to speeds that make 3G seem fast. It's an inherent problem with cell phone service in that unless you are basically sitting on a tower, your speeds could dip and rise standing in the same spot due to carriers pulling all kinds of bs with peak usage time throttling and other crap.

Mobile game streaming will never be good, at least not with current or even next generation wireless technology. Passable in some places, but hardly desired. It will be a long time before I can recommend streaming on anything that doesn't have an Ethernet cable hooked into it with a connection that can maintain at least 40Mb/s (note that is megabits, not megabytes).

akbennyewu1905d ago

Ok you know best, got it.

Ratchet751905d ago

Especially if you re not 1m away from your modem.
Lol😂

frostypants1904d ago (Edited 1904d ago )

What do you mean? MS would NEVER overestimate the capabilities of the cloud............. /s

Streaming in the home on the same network would work though.

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blacktiger1905d ago

You can do same thing with playstation now

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Christopher1905d ago

You can remote play from PS4 on iOS, Sony Android devices, and Vita, but PSNow is still limited to PC outside of PS4 ( https://www.playstation.com... ). I don't think you can remote play the PSNow games streamed to your PS4, even doing so would be one of the worst playing scenarios I can think of.

SLiSH831905d ago

Will MS make a MFi compatible controller for iOS

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SkippyPaccino1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Microsoft: "you might not want to buy our subpar games or our console, but we don't care! We will muscle our way in and you will learn to love us, because we are the all mighty Microsoft!!"

Gamers: "Why don't you start by making great games for a few years before shoving your subpar brand down our throat?"

I've never seen a company achieve so little, yet feel like they're the best to lead the industry forward. That's some high level arrogance on Microsoft part.

optimus1905d ago

yes of course, not unlike sony saying our console is for the upper class, if you want it and can't afford it "then get a 2nd job.".... "we could put out a console with 0 games and it will still sell millions."... that's not high level arrogance at all, right?🙄

Urzusix1905d ago

Like saying if you don't have the internet they buy a 360? lol Both company's said some stupid stuff

kneon1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Here's the real quote

"for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

It's not what people commonly portray it to be.

The Wood1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Misquoted but when you just need a retort. . . Regurgitate anything that can be spun into a negative for . . . . . .reasons

I think MS is doing their own thing. Nothing wrong with that. They've tried in the past to fly too close to the sun but they seem persistent in their efforts to leverage live onto as many devices as possible. It's no guarantee for success but what's wrong with them trying something different. If they quell the delusions of grandeur and arrogance they showed at the start of this gen, they may actually meet one of their goals.

2pacalypsenow1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Sony never said that tho...

Dragonscale1905d ago

@optimus, they never said that fgs.

yomfweeee1905d ago

Awww making up quotes to defend Microsoft.

Gwiz1905d ago

The console sure, but they still had to keep going while MS obviously doesn't.

optimus1905d ago

"but he didn't say that, stop it! he didn't say that!" good lord. 🙄.... let's take a stroll through memory lane shall we?... I'll just leave this here .... https://kotaku.com/thanks-f...

rainslacker1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Yeah, just like those things that Sony never said.

Especially that 2nd quote. Where did that come from? never once Sony imply that, or suggest they weren't going to put out games. They're always about how they're going to support and release games. Sony execs have said some strange things over the years, but never seen them say something so cynical towards the gamers. I couldn't find reference to that 2nd quote in the memes you posted. You also change the context of the 2nd job quote, which is nothing new, and strange that after all this time, Xbox fan boys still show their ignorance because they've certainly been corrected on the meaning of the quote enough times. Even if you read it with trying to spin it, he doesn't actually tell people to get a 2nd job...so, double fail there I guess.

I guess if we're going to make up quotes, I'll go next.

Remember that time that Spencer said he'd give a free Xbox to anyone who sacrificed a white bunny rabbit in the name of Greenburg because he knew that people were so desperate for one, they'd do anything to get one? Man, those were the days. Strange it didn't get any media attention. I remember it clearly.

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TacoTaco1905d ago

That's some high level reaching. Tell me: since 2013, which of the big three has received the harshest criticism and which has done the most to address it in a way that most benefits the users?

Can't be Nintendo. You can't even copy a game save onto an SD Card.
Can't be Sony. They are censoring major releases now (DMC5), have successfully adopted Microsoft's awful 360 marketing strategy of securing 3rd party timed DLC exclusives, and their Cross-Play stance isn't the friendliest. It's absurd that iOS and Android have been together since their very first mobile multiplayer games but just *talking* about PSN-XBL Cross-Play is pure tabboo.

Microsoft leads the charge on backwards compatibility. Microsoft leads the charge on wanting you to play with who you want wherever they could be. They certainly don't lead the charge on quality games, but that shouldn't discredit them from all the good they are now preaching, especially since they threw out the window the *entire* original Xbox One Vision precisely because they chose to listen - and respond to - criticism.

Shikoku1905d ago

If you mean MS then you haven't been paying attention. They backtracked on the policies on xbone but are marshaling ahead with their plan anyway now its just hidden better. They are still pushing an all digital controlled by them market place, killing used games and using a cloud streaming device to push games a s a service that gamers told them loudly and clearly 6yrs ago we don't want and what have they done? Pushed head anyway.

TacoTaco1905d ago

I'm still able to put my Ninja Gaiden disc from the OG Xbox in and it works better than ever on my One X. Not that I need the disc, since it's on Game Pass.

On PSN I purchased God of War for cheaper than it was at retail that week. I own the original trilogy on disc but I can't play any of them on my PS4... Every single purchase I've ever made on Steam on PC has been cheaper than those games ever were at retail too (and hey, they all work on my PC!). In a few months, I'll finally be able to play Halo Reach on PC, purchased through Steam. Digital isn't evil when it's convenient and can be more affordable...

You're free to complain but I'm quite enjoying the multiple ways to buy and enjoy the games I want to play.

Do not use game streaming as an example of a bad Microsoft action. Sony spent several hundred million dollars to purchase a company and has had their PSNow service running for years already...

kingcorey1905d ago

Sony led the industry and microsoft back tracked and followed, sony leads the industry with high quality and high quanity exclusives.. Games... This is all about games. sony and nintendo have the best developers and are the best at making games.. No question or arguement can be made about that.

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Rhythmattic1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

taco,
you do realise PS2 was backwards compatible with PS1 o launch.. The launch PS3 was backwards compatible with hardware, not software emulation...Theres a reason the emotion chip was dropped from the P3, and the following sku's had software emulation, in which not all titles were particularly solid...... This was to reduce cost.... Now everyPS up to PS3 had BC on Launch... ON LAUNCH.
Theres a reason with the PS4 there was no BC... The Cell cannot be emulated buy even a decent PC, Little lone a console... Sure, theres a emulator out there, but still it only runs a few games.. Even with PSnow, Sony use PS3 a proprietary rack that has equivalent of 8 Cell PS3 machines... Its Not X86 Architecture..... If X86 could run the Equivalent of 8 PS3's in a rack, dont you think sony would be running them???
And to use your own statement, say modified..
"specially since they threw out the window the *entire* proprietary architecture model, precisely because they chose to listen to Developers/Programmers - and respond to - criticism.
by Getting Mark Cerny involved, and listing, really listening to people in the industry, sony now have a platform that can develop through time, instead of taking steps back due to new unknown architecture even new gen....

As just ignore remote play, and Share play... Something the PS4's been doing for years... Oh , and streaming PSnow, oh, and as of today i noticed iOS is supported......Interesting....
To Add, The PSVR Rocks..... Go on, Hate on it.

Dragonscale1905d ago

@taco, pure desperation. Ms know they can't compete directly with Sony or Nintendo so have to use subterfuge, all that stuff you quote is pure virtue signalling. The only thing they listened to was the sound of crickets at the start of this gen.

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darthv721905d ago

@rhythm... and the 7800 was bc with 2600. So Sony copied Atari.

rainslacker1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

Sony hasn't had much criticism aimed at them because they haven't done as much wrong. Cross play and censorship are about the only two things that have really had any traction, and the "no games" argument died much quicker than I would have thought, which is probably good for the Xbox fans because of how MS is releasing games now. Cross play is a business decision which wasn't that big of a deal in the bigger picture. Censorship may be an issue going forward, but it's fairly new, and Sony isn't usually quick to react to anything. BC may be a thing, but Sony has extensive data on how many people use it, and what it's worth to try...so again, a business decision. What it ultimately comes down to though is that none of those criticisms are having an effect on PS, they are on Xbox. hence, MS has to react.

MS has had to do the most change because they've done the most wrong, and if you really look at it, MS is moving more towards services which require a connection, so they're just taking smaller steps towards the same goal.

In any case, MS is more trying to remedy its criticisms to be in a stronger position next gen. They've all but given up on this gen, so is it really answering the call to consumers that they are pretty much not even bothering to try with the X1 anymore. It's mostly just saving face. I don't see how that's in any way commendable. We don't know what Sony will do next gen, because they're providing for their players this gen. They have from the start, they will probably do so next gen. If they need to react or adjust due to market forces, they will. But this gen, they started off right, and have continued to do so.

RizBiz1905d ago

That's some next level fanboying there. Impressive.

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gamer78041905d ago

just because you are lacking in one area, doesn't mean you can't work toward fixing that, and concurrently have other teams within the company still innovate in other areas. (Also marketing is a totally different division, whether they are the leader or not they have a job to do) Nice try though.

Prubar1905d ago

What does any of your bickering have to do with the article? Sony wasn’t mentioned in the title.

optimus1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

@rainslacker....i was paraphrasing because it was so long ago but here you go.... it's #10 on that list...there, happy now? of course, i'm expecting you to say it's not the same thing. (rolls eyes) https://www.theregister.co....

Atom6661905d ago

Ahh, #3 ...My first time in a class action. I got a Santana CD and like $6 or $7.

optimus1904d ago

...and just like that, these sony backers turn into crickets. 😄

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william_cade1905d ago

Nice. Diablo immortal will look great.

Sgt_Slaughter1905d ago

Seems to me Microsoft is headed towards console-less gaming way sooner than expected

Kribwalker1905d ago

except for the fact they have already said they will continue to make consoles including a new one that was announced at last E3 that’s rumoured to release next year. Ms is moving beyond consoles yes, but they will still be making dedicated consoles

Shikoku1905d ago

That has no disc drive and is basically not a console in any way but is actually a local stream receiver.

Kribwalker1905d ago

A streaming console, a low end console and a high end console.
https://www.businessinsider...

They are giving lots of options to people to play what they want, where they want, including a high powered dedicated console

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THC CELL1905d ago

How so I've been on remote play ps4 for years started with a vita now xperia and iphones and android also not a amazing experience but will do some games well

Shikoku1905d ago

Wouldnt say the experience is amazing but most games are playable

gamer78041905d ago

ORRRR they , as Microsoft likes to do, have multiple revenue streams, I know crazy talk....

akbennyewu1905d ago

Wow, how dare you mention such a sound and reasonable business strategy...what a jerk.

EliteComments1231905d ago

exactly dumb comments i agree with u about

ElementX1905d ago (Edited 1905d ago )

I doubt they'll ditch XBox any time soon.

https://www.onmsft.com/news...

gam3r_4_lif31905d ago

Yeah thats why they will have the most powerful console next gen, because they are pulling out of a profitable business

thexmanone1904d ago

Don`t seem like it With 3 console coming next Gen, I`m only seeing more options too play games.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv721d 11h ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk1d 11h ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21831d 23h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan1d 21h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga1d 21h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--1d 22h ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC1d 22h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop1d 18h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto1d 22h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman1d 22h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj1d 23h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 5h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo1d 23h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman982d ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk2d ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer