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Bethesda bans Fallout 76 players for life after shocking in-game homophobic attack

Bethesda has banned a group of Fallout 76 players for life after a shocking in-game homophobic attack.

The move relates to an incident in which a group of Fallout 76 players targeted and harassed another group of players, saying over the proximity chat: "we have come to eliminate all gays."

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Neonridr2006d ago

Wow. I guess respect is something that isn't even taught to the youth of today. I don't know what's more disturbing, what I watched or the fact that the guys thought what they were doing was funny. Glad to hear they are banned forever. This stuff has no place in this world at all.

LucasRuinedChildhood2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

It's hard to deny that the youth of today show far more respect to gay people than previous generations. Other than that, I agree with your comment. I think that games journalists at times go out of their way to get offended and create clickbait articles but this is a real story. These guys were legitimately bad so I agree with Bethesda's judgement. However, the fact that it was so difficult to report these guys further highlights just how badly made Fallout 76 is.

I opted to watch one of the videos first before reading the entire article to form my own rough opinion on the incident. At first these guys were being so dumb that I thought that maybe they were intentionally acting idiotic to get some laughs (perhaps self-aware). The further you get into these videos, the more you realize that this is definitely not the case though. They really are just mean-spirited pricks.

Neonridr2006d ago

fair enough, unfortunately there's always these sorts of players that feel it necessary to ruin the experiences for others because they think it's worth a few laughs to themselves. Gad to see Bethesda at least stepped in and prevented these guys from doing this sort of stuff on their servers ever again. I agree there needs to be a better way to report offenders, but I think for something like this, only a video was going to suffice to show just how bad it was.

DaCajun2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

I was just talking about something similar the other day with someone about our youth. The conclusion we came up with if you just look at facts throughout history is there is nothing different from one generation to another. In general, with humans there has always been ignorant bigoted jerks since the beginning of humankind unfortunately. The worst disease to inflict humans if you ask me and for some reason continues to thrive and spread faster than most diseases thanks to the internet. The worst thing also is it will never change until the end of humans.

bluefox7552005d ago

The reason it gets clicks is because everyone knows why they're doing it. The expression: "There's no such thing as bad publicity" rings true on most games journalism these days. It's 100% about getting clicks, which is why they treat gay people like none of them have a spine.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro2006d ago

I guess generalization is a word that is not taught to old people, based on your comment.

Sono4212005d ago (Edited 2005d ago )

honestly seeing articles like this constantly is getting old. There will always be immature edgy humor online because online is mostly filled with kids. If you're gonna perma ban every single person who makes an edgy joke you might as well just ban everyone. Or just a thought, you put the warning saying "online interactions aren't rated" and you aren't responsible for what happens online and then leave it at that, instead of selectively reacting to fake outrage and banning people. Don't like what someone is saying? Mute them, don't cry to Bethesda and ask for a ban you spineless millennials. Although I do understand the developer is in a rock and a hard place, because if they do nothing you'll see cancerous "news" sources calling them homophobic for not banning the wanna be edgy teens. It really comes down to the fact society is just becoming dumbed down and spineless, constantly running to authority and asking them to do something instead of doing it themselves. Pathetic.

nyu12006d ago

It's just them being edgy with dark humour, but it went too far and became too distasteful.

I can see how this kind of thing can be funny. I laughed at the way they said "Cleansing of the Queers". It's ridiculous, and that's the point. However if you're doing this you have to use common sense. Maybe in a party of close friends who know and appreciate that kind of silly humour, but otherwise not surprised they got banned. If you do want to do this kind of thing be a little more tasteful, maybe 'cleanse' some fictional group in the Fallout 76, not gays.

kayoss2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

Remember when hitler started saying, cleansing of the Jews and remember how that turn out? Joke or no joke, these subject matters are no longer up for humor. Same with racism.

DaCajun2006d ago

Ignorance begets ignorance

The world never changes.

nyu12006d ago

@kayoss

You can say that about half of comedy, but it doesn't work like that. Lots of humour targets certain groups.

At the end of the day you just have to be careful what you say and when you say it. If you say the wrong the joke and the wrong time don't be surprised when people find it too much and call you out.

81BX2005d ago

@kayoss
I laughed when I read it. Oh noooooos! Hitler is back!

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rainslacker2006d ago

I've noticed a lot of the youth of today that use racial slurs or spread racial or homophobic slurs, tend to do so more because they think it's funny, rather than being racist or homophobic. It's really sad that they think it's a joking matter. It can work in satire like South Park, but it's done in a way to show that those people using it are ignorant. In cases like this, it just make the person look ignorant.

deno2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

While I do agree with you on this. What really needs to be taught today, especially by parents, is morals. Everyone does what is right in their own mind.

DaCajun2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

I didn't disagree with you but unfortunately, some can't teach what they themselves don't have to begin with.

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Majin-vegeta2006d ago

Lol his response 10/10.Like banning will do anything...hell just go create another account.

darthv722006d ago

then that one will get banned and then the next and then the next. Like when rookie kept getting banned here and yet was making account after account to try and find his way back in.

I wonder what happened to him....? Did he clean up his act and now resides among us as a new persona or did he simply give up knowing he would be found out no matter how many accounts he tried to make.

The world may never know.

Christopher2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

@TheColbertinator

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You inviting me into those restriction areas?

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DragonbornZ2006d ago

@Darth
Yea it's less about putting a full stop to something and more along the lines of mitigation.

Obviously its within their power to create new accounts, but unless they're some vengeful hateful people who will just create multiple accounts to harass gay people, how likely is it they'll continuously want to risk their progress?

@TheColbertinator
Lol

RauLeCreuset2006d ago

Colbertinator, you are awesome. Don't ever let anyone tell you different.

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DaCajun2006d ago

OMG I forgot about that guy. lol

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DaDrunkenJester2006d ago

Getting banned for life seems like less of a punishment and more of a blessing in this game.

Rachel_Alucard2006d ago

The article is assuming life but the reality is it was only 3 days and one of the banned ones didn't even care enough to go back.

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Elda2006d ago (Edited 2006d ago )

If true...I'm wondering how did they know what players were Gay from playing a videogame in the first place,unless they were just making it up. Though in most cases folks that Gay bash are the usual suspects that are fighting within themselves of mutual attraction of the same gender,though some also do this from "fear" of the unknown. Js.

Rachel_Alucard2006d ago

The victim was hitting on one of the attackers earlier, that's how they knew.

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Mroc132005d ago

The victim got what was coming then

slate912005d ago

He called one of the other player's outfits "cute". I wouldnt call that hitting on them.

CorndogBurglar2005d ago (Edited 2005d ago )

Is no one going to bring up the fact that the "victims" were all running around with nothing but tight whitey underwear on and telling other players in the game that they thought their clothes were "cute"?

I suppose that doesn't make it okay to get harassed, but let's be realistic here. These guys were purposely trying to make other players uncomfortable by doing this. There's no other reason for it.

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CorndogBurglar2005d ago (Edited 2005d ago )

The "victims" were running around as a group wearing nothing but tighty whitey underwear and telling other Male players in the world that they thought their outfits were "cute". And we only know that because that's what one of the "victims" said. Who knows what else they might have said.

So lets try to be a little more realistic.

1. This is a game where the entire point is to be able to kill other players. Whether you have a reason to or not, it's one of the main features of the game.

2. These victims were very obviously trying to make other players uncomfortable if they are traveling as a group of Male characters wearing nothing but underwear and telling other male players how cute they think they look.

I don't want to sound like they deserved it or anything like that at all. Following them around and killing them and talking the way they were is certainly not acceptable. But again, it's a game where other players can attack and kill you for no reason at all. So maybe going around and doing something that other people may find offensive or uncomfortable is not the smartest thing to do of you don't want something like this to happen?

What I really get tired of in society is how people with "different" sexual orientations can play the offended card anytime they want, but a straight person is not allowed to be offended or uncomfortable by them? It's sort of a double standard.

Elda2005d ago (Edited 2005d ago )

You make a good point. It's just a game anyways but folks going around even in a game saying kill the Gays is somewhat disturbing.Running around in underwear some may find it disturbing but it's just a videogame,it seems like a no win situation...lol.

InTheZoneAC2005d ago

By your logic when everyone calls each other n-word in online games that means they want to be a slave themselves? Your blanket statement is old and holds no actual truth. Sorry.

Elda2005d ago (Edited 2005d ago )

If you're referring to my initial comment your analogy doesn't make any sense what so ever. It's been proven in psychology studies including real life cases that in most cases (not all) the usual person that always go out their way to call Gay people names like (f*ggot) or even to assault them are the usual closet cases. Their usually bothered by the fact that they don't have the courage to be want they want to be & take their frustration out on that Gay individual because they have the courage to be who they are,sometimes it's to get the persons attention but they don't have the courage to do so so they do it in a negative way. In other cases it's pure immaturity/ignorance so they become bullies because they fear a culture/lifestyle that they know nothing about & only know the negative stereotypes that their peers may have told them especially if it involves religion,somewhat of a comparison of what people of color had to go through in the 50's & 60's (racism) which has somewhat resurfaced in the USA because of the now Trump era.

InTheZoneAC2005d ago

we're talking about online chat, not physical assault.

Elda2005d ago

Gay bashing/bullying is harassment no matter if it's physical,verbally or behind a keyboard it's all in the same pot including the fact that these idiots/cowards do this because there are reasons behind why they do it.

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parris2006d ago

I'm offended that Bethesda got offended... is what type of comments I'm sure this thread will end up being full of.

CaptainObvious8782006d ago

When there's an actual legitimate case of extreme harassment I have no issue with the culprits getting punished.

But I do have an issue when "punching a virtual feminist in RDR2" is considered violent and all men are labelled sexist for one persons actions.

RacerX2006d ago

Bethesda created a game revolved around killing eachother, where "extreme harassment" is actually encouraged. Other than the targeting of homosexuals, that is the game they created.

whothedog2005d ago

Shooting and killing people is ok, but saying mean words is over the line. There is a thing called a block button, maybe he should of used that.

PapaBop2006d ago

Being offended over trivial things like a character in a revealing outfit for a game that person had no interest in in the first place is completely different from someone suffering from online abuse in a game. I wished more companies would take a zero tolerance policy on online abuse like Bethesda has done here.

Majin-vegeta2006d ago

Abuse?Lol please unless they're hurting him in real life this isn't abuse.Just cuz a few words hurt him.

81BX2005d ago

Abuse?!?!?!? Agaahahahaaa
You guys are too much

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Avowed Moved to Unreal Engine 5.3

With Support from The Coalition

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ThinkThink11h ago

That's great news. Hopefully the Coalition can smooth some of those edges from the last Avowed reveal.

phoenixwing8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Well I'm annoyed. Especially at all the ppl who said the graphics sucked. It's your fault they probably shifted the game to unreal so it could look more fancy for you. I was ok with it and hoping to actually play it sometime soon. Now it's like 99% chance it's delayed.
Edit: effing graphics whores

Obscure_Observer1m ago

"Well I'm annoyed. Especially at all the ppl who said the graphics sucked. It's your fault they probably shifted the game to unreal so it could look more fancy for you."

What the hell are you talking about dude? Avowed was already in development using the UE5. The Coalition is just helping Obsidian in the transition to its latest version (5.3)

Fishy Fingers0m ago

It already was Unreal 5, its just moving to the latest build.

Lightning778h ago

Apparently the latest build looks way better graphically. This rumor from Jez Cordin (who's credible) pretty much confirms it.

Interested in seeing more on Avowed in a few weeks.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

anast17h ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor1h ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic53m ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor32m ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

NotoriousWhiz25m ago(Edited 24m ago)

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

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CDPR say Witcher 4 will be different from Witcher 3: "We don't want to be stuck in the same spot"

The next Witcher game will still be an RPG but players can expect new things as CD Projekt Red want to push boundaries and discover new ways of storytelling.

Terry_B15h ago

Each of the 3 existing Witcher games is pretty different from each other..

just_looken45m ago

They were different because they went from being a port studio with there last port being the god awful saints row 2 pc port to making the witcher one.

The first witcher was there first actual game with there own engine the 3rd one showed there years of experience/in house engine improvements.

This witcher game has very very few of the original people behind it and its using unreal engine like so many other games.

The big elephant in the room is that they are now proudly esg supports and go to a panel of esg reps to approve there games now.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The is cdpr 2020's not the 2010's cdpr we used to know.

https://www.gamesradar.com/...

Take the blood/sex/nudity/adult humor/combat system/rpg mechanics/writing/story charecters/art/design and there passion/drive from the first 3 games throw it in the fucking trash there now you got what they have right now for the witcher 4.

New engine new writing team new everything even esg leadership so yeah "Witcher 4 will be different from Witcher 3"

Kaii14h ago

My only issue with 3 was with the combat

bRuud832h ago

Combat was never the strongest part of the series.

just_looken44m ago

True but anyone that thinks witcher 3 2.0 combat is bad would never get past the first section of witcher one.

Profchaos2h ago

I felt 3 was ok took a long for it to click but I tried 2 and I found combat controls to be my biggest barrier to actually enjoying it was about 50 times clunkier than 3

thorstein52m ago(Edited 52m ago)

I thought the weakest point was the copious amount of dialog. Sometimes less is more. I remember clicking through just to get to the objective.

outsider162432m ago(Edited 32m ago)

Compared to W1, W3 feels like a masterpiece in combat..lol.

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helicoptergirl14h ago

Bethesda seems like a studio that is "stuck in the same spot". Development wise. Glad CDPR are wary of that element in game design.

Hugodastrevas3h ago

This can either go very well or very badly. I hope the latter.

just_looken42m ago(Edited 41m ago)

That is on your mobile device they copied pokemon go few years back
https://www.thewitcher.com/...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

It was such a flop they removed the videos and removed the link to that article but its still on there servers.

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