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Watch Dogs 2 has a better open world than GTA V and Skyrim

I believe in what I say and I make the following statement with complete certainty: Watch Dogs 2 has the best open world ever. Better than Skyrim. Better than Grand Theft Auto V.

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Genuine-User2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

I can't say that just yet while comparing it to GTAV. And Skyrim isn't my thing, I found it really boring.

That said, Watch Dogs 2 is rich with detail and character interaction/conversation. Here's a small clip that I captureed on the Pro last night: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Ricegum2752d ago

That's too good!

"I'll give you a crazy hobo!"

Honestly though, you can hate Ubisoft for some of the rubbish they put out there at times, but Watch Dogs 2 is a very impressive game with such amazing detail.

Meltic2752d ago

Skyrim is the most played the game ever. That and fallout is huuuuge

mikeslemonade2751d ago

Nice. And I live in this city. Can't wait to play the free version on PC.

starchild2751d ago

@mikeslemonade

Yeah way to screw over the developers who worked so hard making this game. Yet you can't wait to play it.

I play on PC and I buy all my games. To do otherwise wouldn't be right.

KillBill2751d ago

Just not seeing the same volume as GTA V though. The random events in GTA V are just so great. Not seeing the same type of interactivity in what I have seen from Watchdogs 2 yet.

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Aloy-Boyfriend2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

Don't be! No one does open world better than Rockstar. R* does open world where you can literally live in and explore after you beat the game. Others do Open world great, but once you beat the game there's no reason to stay in

I mean cmon guys! The first Watch Dogs was touted as GTA killer. How did that work out? As cute as this Open world is, it is still missing that R* magic. Thus it will never be better

Let's just stop comparing Underdogs to Juggernauts to sorta give the lesses games an edge. People just like to try to give popular stuff a hard time these days...

KosherNostra2752d ago

Please, tell me more about a game you've never played.

thepluggy2752d ago

GT5 had the worst map in the entire series..a massive mountain and lake that took up neatly half of it.lol

Sm30002752d ago

Damn bruh, how come u don't like R* so much

_-EDMIX-_2752d ago

Even as a huge rock star fan that owns the majority of their games I don't know if I would have great so that.

I would say Bethesda and now CD projekt Red sort of make the best open World Games in regards to all the interconnectivity you have with NPCs.

I like knowing that the characters that you meet live in the areas there, they eat there ,they work there ,their business and Community is in those locations in GTA it's not really the case..

When I randomly kill someone in GTA I don't believe that a quest line was removed or that a business has just lost its owner or anything like that.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the GTA franchise but a GTA game that had an open-world similar to the Elder Scroll series with easily be one of the greatest open world games ever made..

Ie I randomly robbed a shot and killed its owner now the shop is closed down or a family member takes over the shop.

That is something that actually happens in the Elder Scrolls series that is something that does not happen in Grand Theft Auto what would be absolutely amazing if it did.

Open world in regards to Features has very little to do with size and everything to do with what can I do and how can I interact with the world.

Dark_Knightmare22752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

Yeah Rockstars worlds feel so lived in oh wait in gta 5 you can't even go in like 99 percent of the buildings lol. Seriously I love Rockstar open worlds especially rdr but I'm getting really tired of them barely having any buildings to go in when ubisoft,cdpr etc have almost every building able to be entered which makes the world feel more real and lived in.

Count_Bakula2752d ago

Rockstar's open world MATCHES their game is the thing too. Watch Dogs isn't the complete package because some hipster douche wreaking havok in streets, murdering hundreds doesn't make sense or fit. GTA is satire so it's accepted. You can suspend disbelief, of course, but that's where Watch Dogs fails in my opinion.

Starman692752d ago

Believe u me. Wd2 on pro kills gta5 console version. Goood game man!!

CrimzonRazor2751d ago

never liked gta, their sense of humor ruins their games

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Ashby_JC2752d ago

You also need to take into account that GTA 5 released 3 years ago!!!

So I would hope that newer games can beat it as far as immersion and such.

SirBradders2751d ago

True and factor in that it was made primarily of rather ps360 first you can't knock it.

Jon_Targaryen2751d ago (Edited 2751d ago )

Awesome point, it took other developers 3 years to do what R* did on last gen technology and the limitations that came with it.. Never thought of it that way...

showtimefolks2751d ago (Edited 2751d ago )

if that's the case than why is WD2 so boring

that's right it's ubi they use the same features in all their games

notachance2751d ago

better than witcher 3 really?

oasdada2751d ago

The moment I was riding a trail bike off road, hit a rock, got my bike flying off in an akward,unrealistic Nd buggy manner, hit the grass and saw sparks coming out and the bike making soind like it hit a bloody metal pavement.. it just took me out of it. Sometimes its the little things

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-Foxtrot2752d ago

The fact is both games still hold up compared to it and they are old games from years ago...hell last gen even.

Smitty20202752d ago

am replaying skyrim and still think it's amazing

The 10th Rider2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

I'm playing it really for the first time (on PC with graphics mods.) I've played it before at a friend's house, but I picked it up for myself for like $5 a few months back.

It felt kind of overrated. I mean I do get the appeal, and I'm still playing it, but I guess I'd say the only part that stands out as exceptional is the world and just how much is in it. Outside of that, combat is okay, not bad but not great. Graphics are eh. The story is, at best, alright. The interface is atrocious on PC (thankfully mods fix that easily.) There's very little in the individual components that's really standout. The thing that makes it great is how the pieces come together to make an addictive game with massive amounts of content. . . However, I don't think it deserves a pass on the meh parts if the game.

A2X_2752d ago

People make some damn stupid comparisons these days. I understand comparing Watch dog's 2 open world to GTA V but Skyrim? Skyrim's world has a very different feeling, no modern citys, cars etc. Not even comparable.

You could definitely compare Skyrim to Fallout 4 or Witcher 3 but comparing it to GTA and Watch dogs is pretty dumb.

kevnb2752d ago

even then morrowind had the best world, too bad a lot of the rough edges will keep many people from playing.

TheFirstClassic2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

Morrowind wasn't as big but was definitely the best. It was so densley packed with things to discover, and all the locations felt varied, something I can't say about current open worlds. Anyone with a pc should give the morrowind graphics overhaul a go, it makes the game much easier to get into.

sullynathan2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

morrowind had a shit world with poor open world elements and is overrated to hell. Gothic 2 and GTA Vice City did open world back then far better. Morrowind is a classic example of rose tinted glasses covering the shit that the game had.

Allsystemgamer2752d ago

If they modernized Morrowind...I'd lose my mind.

Loved that game. The combat was silly but it's lore and amount of mission variety, weapon types armors...insane for the time.

Princess_Pilfer2752d ago

@sullynathan

It really doesn't. It's not that morrowind is perfect and some things (like NPCs who stand stock still behind a counter 24/7) show their age, but it is a very good open world. It's not a sandbox or an "open" world that effectively level gates most of itself to control progression (so if that's what you're looking for then you're looking in the wrong place) but that doesn't somehow make it bad. It's more hub-based where at any given time your quests and exploration center around a hub-area (usually a city or town) and you range farther and farther away from those places as you get to know the lay of the land, then it sends you to a new area to repeat this process until evenually the main quest says "we've spend the last 30 hours teaching you how to navigate this world using landmarks, memory and written directions and now we're sending you to the middle of nowhere and asking you to put those skills to good use."

sullynathan2752d ago

Morrowind is a sandbox like the TES games before and after it. It just isn't as good as people think it is.

Bigpappy2752d ago (Edited 2751d ago )

Yeah. I used to go to work and talk about things I did in MORROWIND like it was real life.
@sullynathan: If you are comparing Morrowind to GTA, you complete played it wrong, didn't play Morrowind or maybe did a speed run. You had to live in that world. You had to find your way using the compass, no lines showing you the way; You had to train in your chosen fighting style to be effective (that's why many of you could never hit a darn thing with your big swords); You needed to capture souls to do enchantments and pay to travel; Money was very important and you needed to work, kill or steal to get some; There was no auto-leveling to match NPC or weapons. You had to get the right training or you die on the spot if you couldn't avoid a powerful NPC. You were genuinely scared to go in to certain areas, and you avoided many NPC until you were well trained and equipped.
None of that is relevant to GTA and there is a lot more I didn't get into.

sullynathan2752d ago

@Bigpappy Guess what also had all that with reactive AI and an actual great world too? Gothic fucking 1& 2. Gothic 1 & 2 didn't have the shit combat of morrowind either.

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spicelicka2752d ago

Not to mention it was released 6 years ago on last gen platforms.

ps360s2751d ago

that's so true...

Not sure why people mention R or GTA5 or Skyrim

Just play the damn games and enjoy them!

never knew this kind of fanboys/girls existed!

I see how some comments are so ridiculous...

what is out now and are good, is worth playing...past games are past (good or bad)

I never compare, I just play any games that are good and enjoy them

Tankbusta402752d ago

I doubt it, nice cry for attention with an edgy title though

SilverDemon2752d ago

Haven't bought watch dogs2 yet but the original's world felt for alive than gta5
People were rapping, car accident happens and people would get out and start fighting, random thefts happens, you can see couples fighting and much more

I don't remember anything happens to the NPCs in gta5

starrman19852752d ago

I read "DC movies are more enjoyable than Marvel ones" and that immediately made his opinion invalid to me.

mochachino2752d ago

The Chistian Bale batman movies were pretty good and the first one is generally regarded as one of the best movies in the last 20 years.

starrman19852752d ago

I don't consider them true DC movies (because they're good...)

kevnb2752d ago

Christopher Nolan directed those movies, and they actually gave him some control!

The 10th Rider2752d ago

It's too bad the trilogy ended with such a low note. Otherwise it could have gone down as one of the top movie trilogies for its era.

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lipton1012752d ago

Avengers were awful. Captain America and Days of future past were the only good marvel movies. As far as D.C. Films, TDK trilogy immediately invalidates your opinion, TDK is one of the best films ever made, not just superhero movie.

Not to mention Watchmen which was absolutely stunning. Even Man of Steel had more going for it than the 2 dimensional marvel movies. I can comfortably say that Marvel has better TV shows vs D.C. though. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and daredevil beat the hell out of Gotham and Flash

The 10th Rider2752d ago (Edited 2752d ago )

I agree marvel movies are two dimensional. I honestly can't sit through them anymore, but I can understand why others find them enjoyable. They make good popcorn flicks. However when it comes to DC, one or two good outliers doesn't excuse the absolutely unbearable rest of DC's cinematic universe. I'm so done with super hero movies until someone gives us something unique. Wonder Woman looks interesting, but it'll probably just be more of the same so I'm not getting my hopes up.

CrimzonRazor2751d ago

watchmen was pure trash worst movie of all time

starrman19852751d ago

So we have TDK trilogy, they are amazing but also happened before the whole Marvel vs DC crap so I don't really count them! Then we have....

Superman Returns
Watchmen
Green Lantern
Man of Steel (I quite enjoyed that)
BvS
Suicide Squad

I think if someone paid me to sit through the majority of them I'd decline!

Marvel might be comical flicks, but they're great fun and some of the Captain America films have a more serious note too, they have their bad ones but noway near train wrecks that some of DC's have achieved!

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer7h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning775h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv725h ago(Edited 4h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning7743m ago(Edited 42m ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

-Foxtrot7h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv724h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC3h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno2h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Sciurus_vulgaris4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf10h ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic10h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv7210h ago(Edited 9h ago)

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop6h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv725h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19724h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

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shinoff21839h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv728h ago(Edited 8h ago)

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje8h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils2h ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick6h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein1d 8h ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff218313h ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear2113h ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

Goodguy0117h ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing6914h ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing6911h ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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