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Red Dead Redemption 2: PlayStation and Rockstar Games announce partnership

For the past 20 years, Rockstar have continually redefined the concept of open worlds. From the record breaking Grand Theft Auto series, the Midnight Club racing games, the schoolyard comedy Bully, to the breakout hit Red Dead Redemption, Rockstar have consistently delivered on a level that few have managed to match. Now, following up Grand …

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Herbalistic2777d ago

I'm not surprised being as R* and Sony have always had a great relationship

UCForce2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Yup, just like Kojima and Sony have great partnership.

Edit : @Septic Not just money. It's also trust. What I mean trust is that Rockstar have strong relationships with Sony for a long time back in PS2 era. Kojima relationship with Sony is different than other, Kojima praised Sony for giving him so much freedom of creativity.

Gazondaily2777d ago

Money spent well here by Sony.

gangsta_red2777d ago

Yea, trusting that check cleared.

Sony is definitely spending that timed exclusive money on third parties a lot more this gen. Something that was frowned upon last gen.

Concertoine2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

You cant honestly say that the PS4 is getting early access content... becase Rockstar TRUSTS them? Gimme a break.

Sony penned a fat check just like MS did for GTA 4's DLC. Even with the PS4 as the dominant platform, Rockstar has become so massive now that anybody has to pay big for exclusive anything.

@Eonjay

You do understand that's not how it works right? Playstation and Xbox are both massive sources of income. Even if the Xbox sold half of that number that's still hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue from the lower selling platform.

Sony had to provide an immediate payment that satisfied Rockstar enough to postpone millions of dollars of revenue to make content temporarily exclusive.

Eonjay2777d ago

Didn't GTA 5 sale like 25-30 million on PlayStation consoles. Yeah it makes sense. You go to where the money is. And whatever Sony paid them is just extra really.

Gazondaily2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Dat trust:

http://gifrific.com/wp-cont...

It's just money hatting. Standard practice. Nothing more beyond that based on what we know.

It's a smart move by Sony that's all.

Microsoft have lost out here. They could have leveraged the deal with marketing the Scorpio version (if there is one) by saying that the definitive version is available on their console.

Expect a Destiny type sly ad because this is a big game.

Thatguy-3102777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

This is when marketshare comes into play. Big titles like this always go with the console that's market leader at the time why do you think none of the huge third party games have partnered with MS. Obviously money comes into play but don't think that MS will have to pay the same amount of money that Sony is paying to secure these big marketing deals.

Palitera2777d ago

Don't think "trust" as on personal relations.

It is probably meant here as "good relationship between the companies". And yes, in case you don't know, it is also VERY important.

Aloy-Boyfriend2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Gangsta

Maybe if Microsoft didn't stop making games of their own and relied on COD and third party deals, it wouldn't have been a problem.

This is Sony's money and they can spend it in whatever they want, but as long as they keep making their own stuff it is all fine.

And don't you think this is MS avoiding the deals themselves. They lost the marketshare and that is why Sony has most of the deals. It is not MS choice anymore

Unchartedshark2777d ago

@Concertoine

Give 'em a break. This man knows big business. He's a big business guy who needs a break. Let him have it.
He understands all the big business an-and knows how to use pie charts. what a business man.

_-EDMIX-_2777d ago

I mean I actually think that's quite a stretch, yes they both have a pretty cozy partnership but I would not say it's the same considering Kojima is actually making a game under Sony I think this is simply due because Sony is the market leader not to say that they don't have a great relationship or partnership in regards to business but where was this last generation?

Even though I really like Sony and I really like Rockstar I'm not going to just disregard that there's business at play and there's a logical reason behind this.

xHeavYx2777d ago

This is going to enrage a lot of people *grabs popcorn*

ziggurcat2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

@septic:

"It's just money hatting. Standard practice. Nothing more beyond that based on what we know.

It's a smart move by Sony that's all.

Microsoft have lost out here..."

except it's just MP content, which'll just amount to some character skins, weapons that probably aren't any better than what's already in the game, and maybe a few maps. i wouldn't even really consider this that big of a deal. it'd be more of an "issue" if this timed exclusivity deal was on the entire game - and even then i think it'd only be a problem if there was no indication when R* announced the game that it was a PS timed exclusive.

Blastoise2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

@Playstation fanboys

Stop pretending Sony didn't pay for this partnership

@Xbox fanboys

Stop pretending you're not mad that Microsoft didn't do it first

gangsta_red2777d ago

@XiKurapikaKurta

With your reply to me you still seem to be under the illusion that market share played any part in Rockstar's decision. Sony paid for this plain and simple, I'm sure if MS wrote a bigger check you would see this content for Xbox.

ULTp0ltergeist2777d ago

It's just exclusive content, has nothing to do with "strong relationships" or Playstation having more hardware sells. This is just hardware promotion if anything, Microsoft could promote their own content but chose not to. Probably bundles on launch day obviously.

Christopher2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Eh, I don't think trust or whatever has squat to do with this. It's 1. Market Reach 2. Money. Plain and simple, IMHO.

***Sony had to provide an immediate payment that satisfied Rockstar enough to postpone millions of dollars of revenue to make content temporarily exclusive.***

Not immediate payment, but more than likely a contract to cover $10m or more in marketing costs.

starchild2777d ago

Nah, it's just a business deal really. Sony is definitely paying them, although I'm sure the larger market share of the PS4 makes it an easier decision.

morganfell2777d ago

Laughable. No one in this thread has the slightest idea what was paid for, how or how much, or why. Was market share considered and did that lessen the payment if one occurred? Is this a payback to Sony that was part of the missing Agent deal? No one knows.

No one. Assumptions in this situation are a type of self delusion.

That said, I do not agree with it. Just as I do not agree with the beta on COD being PS4 only at the start. I think the beta should have been all platforms but not everyone that preordered. A manageable number. Then let the second wave be everyone that preordered.

I am thinking Rockstar may actually run a MP beta as they push online more than they ever have in any previous game and Sony may have cornered that as they did with COD.

Also many of the people attacking Sony for moneyhatting were crickets when MS announced the Tomb Raider deal.

Gazondaily2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Lol at morganfells defence! 😂😂😂

What a long winded way of saying "leave Sony alone!"

So when the TR deal was made and people were crying, making online petitions, boycotting the game EVEN THOUGH the devs were saying it was because of good relations etc....did you guys also say 'let's not make assumptions'?

And then you celebrated a LIFETIME deal with Capcom for SF exclusivity. Oh it's because Sony helped with the development of the game....Remind me how well that turned out?

Lmao. It's money hatting pure and simple. Spare us the complete utter bullshit.

Man. Such an amazingly loyal fanbase

morganfell2777d ago (Edited 2776d ago )

Well Septic since you are such an ardent reader where did I say Sony wasn't money hatting? I said we do not know the circumstances of said payments. Does that mean I do not think it was paying money or we do not know the situation under which the money changed hands? Did I say I agreed with what occurred? In my opening paragraph where did I deny money went from Sony to Rockstar? I said we do not know the circumstance for the money changing hands. I even put forth money may have changed hands years ago. Thus why there may not have been a chunk of money that Sony delivered in the past 30 days.

You really should read more carefully. For someone that works at a gaming website that writes - a situation where words are supposed to matter - you pay very little attention to them.

And Sony did pay for the development of SF. Blaming them for the way the game turned out is like blaming Yamaha when Jorge Lorenzo has a bad race. All the equipment and funding is there, its up to the person on the ground to make it happen. Misdirected blame demonstrates a lack of understanding of the process. If anything you sound bitter MS couldn't engineer the same deal with TR.

bouzebbal2776d ago

it all comes to the cash in the long run.
only EA (Titanfall 1) and a few others didn't get this.

Major_Glitch2776d ago

@Septic Hey there little buddy, how's MS "cloud powerz" working out for you? Did Titanfall sell 10 million copies yet? Remember that time you claimed Xbone had the best holiday lineup ever? Got any other wild claims you'd like to make? You're on a roll, why stop?

pyroxxx2776d ago (Edited 2776d ago )

@septic,.. has nothing to do with money I can assure you,.. Hell Rockstar has probably more disposable cash than Sony at this point ,.. They are friends,.. and just know who helped them get to where they are,.. same goes with Fromsoft and Miyazaki.

DarXyde2775d ago

Septic,

There's a lot I can say about your reply to Morganfell, but Morganfell does not need me to defend him...so I won't do that. Looks like he's already got your number.

I will, however, say that your bias and generalizations are very apparent. First, there were a number of people who were upset by the Tomb Raider deal, but I certainly wouldn't say it was that many. PlayStation gamers were also expecting Uncharted 4 around that time before a delay was announced, you know. I really don't know why the community was so upset, but a recurring thing that I see is that it's due to PlayStation being the "home of Tomb Raider", whatever that means. I guess it'd be like Sony making a deal with Capcom for Dead Rising rights. Oh, and, please don't bring up the online petitions. I mean, have you seen the entitlement of PC gamers and their petition regarding Bloodborne?

Now about "celebrating" Street Fighter V, I don't think I know of anyone doing that. I mean, it's also on PC. And sure, it didn't turn out that well...at launch. I don't own it yet, but I hear it's pretty great now. You know what else Sony helped a studio develop and was arguably last year's best game? Bloodborne.

Is it moneyhatting? Probably. Likely. Almost certainly. I wouldn't chalk it up to developer relations, but it does make it easier. Rockstar does that, though: when Xbox 360 was regarded as the better partner and consumer favorite, it got DLC first for GTA IV. When PS2 was king of the hill, it got the GTA games first. Now, since we're more or less witnessing Sony's return to form, Rockstar appears to have some deal in place with Sony. Were ANY of the aforementioned deals financed? I can totally see it, but I'm just a consumer who happens to be a bit more insightful than the average gamer. By the way, were you outraged by that GTA IV deal? Probably not. Seems a little hypocritical to get bent out of shape and denigrate a fan base when you yourself are unlikely to hold yourself to the same standard.

But yeah, Sony has a pretty loyal fanbase. So blind and unyielding. So much so that not a single person who was all about PlayStation before jumped to the Xbox 360, amirite?! I'm sure that's also why the PS3 is the worst selling PlayStation console. Not like Xbox 360 sold any better than the original or the Wii outsold its competition or anything.

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Corpser2777d ago

It's just who's offerring more $$$$$

MasterCornholio2777d ago

Market share factors in as well.

Kryptix2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

I guess MS isn't graced by the infinite money cheat code that some people want to believe.

I know the deal wasn't free for Sony, but it also has something to do with their strong relationship... I mean, with Agent being worked on as a PlayStation exclusive, for example. I know it's been a long while, but that game's trademark was renewed again. Market share also plays a role in this.

Regardless, I'm not into timed exclusive deals at all and see them as a waste of money, but it's hilarious seeing how the same people that backed Tomb Raider's timed deal and didn't use the term, "money hat" at that time, use it now. Truly hilarious.

GUTZnPAPERCUTZ2777d ago

This is true! I bet all the in game shots shown were running on PS4 Pro! It's looks Amazing, if it comes out Fall 2017 then I will just pick it up on Scorpio instead on X1 IF I can afford one by then lol

JasonKCK2777d ago

When PS gets exclusive rights it's because of the "PS brand" and not about the money. Well that's what some people here tell themselves anyway.

Red_Renegade2777d ago

the brand is bigger and they have way more consoles, so why wouldn't that be part of it?

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YAO-BLING2777d ago

we can all thank microsoft for showing sony how to do exclusive DLC deals right?

C-H-E-F2777d ago

Until GTAIV when they betrayed Sony :(.

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robtion2777d ago

Just curious but how is it a huge deal? It doesn't seem very significant to me. Some early access to unspecified online content. Sounds pretty meh. And RDR on PS Now. What a joke. That service isn't even available to half the world, and when it is you have to pay for it again, even if you still own the game on ps3.

Not impressed in the slightest by this announcement.

On a positive note, I can't wait for Dishonoured 2, FFXV, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Neir Automata, and Persona 5 in the next 6 months.

AtariFanboy2777d ago

Depends on the content and time between. Just ask any Xbox Destiny player.

Lenns2777d ago

The PS Now thing probably wasn't even part of the deal. They were gonna do that regardless because Xbox has RDR with BC. With the popularity of GTA Online, this has the potential to be a huge deal depending on what the content is. If its actual missions, then it'll be huge, like Sony's deal with Destiny. If it's cosmetics then it'll be pretty insignificant.

morganfell2777d ago

It's NieR Automata. If you are going to name a title in an attempt to justify your attack, at least know how to spell it correctly. And let us be honest. This announcement made enough of some kind of impression for you to feel the need to remark upon it.

ShadowKnight2777d ago

Oh wow great news for Playstation owners

TankCrossing2777d ago

I don't see how it is great news for Playstation owners. Nothing here suggests the game will be better as a result of this partnership, it simply means some of the content will be witheld from the Xbox version for a little while.

Great news for Sony,but just a continuation of a shitty practice for gamers.

ShadowKnight2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

A lot of publishers and developers have deals like this. Its been going on for years.

CrimsonWing692777d ago

I think they mean it's great news that Playstation owners don't have to wait for the additional content...

OB1Biker2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

I actually agree. I don't like too much that sort of timed deal but tbh I can be happy the crap doesn't impact me at least. The purely marketing deal is great but not the practical implication for some gamers

AngelicIceDiamond2777d ago

MS did it a ton last gen and got BLASTED for it. Phil said this gen they won't be doing much money hatting which gives Sony the jump to secure deals since MS isn't strong game on deals as much. MS, Sony Nintendo they all do it no use in getting mad its just buissness. Sony or even MS don't care for the content that's available to its owners, what they care about is console and software units sold that could be potentially be lost on other said platform(s)

That's where ppl get mad, Its shitty practice that much is definitely true.

Orbilator2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Spoken like a true xbot. Tank

TankCrossing2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

@Orbilator Not really, no. Fanboys are mouth breathing rage monkeys and zealots, whereas I am quite calm. I also primarily game on my PCs, followed by my PS4, and pretty much never my Xbox so it'd be odd if I sounded like an Xbox fanboy.

I don't harbour any irrational hatred for the Xbox though, maybe that is reason enough for you to point fingers?

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ginsunuva2777d ago

Last gen when MS did this shit: "WTF M$ ruining games for the rest of us with their unethical practices!"

This gen when Sony does it: "Woohoo! Great news!"

italiangamer2777d ago

Rockstar and Sony go hand in hand. GTA made PlayStation great and PlayStation made Rockstar great, it's just natural that both of them partnered again with RDR 2 after the immense success they both had with GTA V and all of their older titles.

AngelicIceDiamond2777d ago

True though in this case its not out of "love" its simply Sony coughing up bucks. GTA 4 didn't love MS, MS coughed up big buck even Red Dead didn't love MS, again money thats all they see. Great partnerships yes but buissness always comes first through and through.

jznrpg2777d ago

Unless we were there we are making up what we think happened. Having a long relationship and having a big lead can factor into it . Of course $ is involved, these are businesses . But to act like we know the details is dumb, we dont know sh!t

JMaine5182777d ago

Huge get for Sony. I thought this would've been massive as well for Microsoft and the launch of the Xbox Scorpio.

BlackTar1872777d ago

Mark my words PS4 Pro and Scorpio will look and play the same on RDR2

Gazondaily2777d ago

How do you figure that?

You're saying Rockstar will deliberately downgrade the Scorpio version for the sake of the PS4PRO?

JasonKCK2777d ago

Rockstar wont downgrade Scorpio because of the weaker Pro.

Silly gameAr2777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

@Septic

I really hope the Scorpio is as much as a powerhouse as you guys think it will be, and MS isn't just blowing smoke up your a****. I really don't think that Scorpio will be much different from the Pro, but MS does have amazing PR and can make their believers believe quite easily.

BlackTar1872777d ago (Edited 2777d ago )

Yes dude i'm saying R* won't put in extra effort to make the scorpio better then the ps4 Pro especially since you're talking probably a 2 million install base and maybe less on the scorpio. Now whether or not the re-release the whole game as a GOTY pack with upgrades is different.

You don't have to agree with me just remember this comment when Scorpio comes out.

Ceaser98573612777d ago

"You're saying Rockstar will deliberately downgrade the Scorpio version for the sake of the PS4PRO?"

lmao! aint the PC gamers complain about the same where they get downgrades because of Consoles..

"Rockstar wont downgrade Scorpio because of the weaker Pro."

There wont be any downgrade but its a possibility Scorpio getting a native 4k support ...

DarXyde2777d ago

I guess it depends on how much of a difference the power makes here. The differences between PS4 and Xbox One's performance I'd say are negligible.

Though there is a bigger gap between Scorpio and Pro, I look at it as something I call "The Megapixel Effect". Megapixels make a difference, obviously, but once you reach a certain threshold, it takes that many more MPs to observe a real difference.

Orbilator2777d ago

Septic. Do you ever have anything nice to say. Biggest XBOT. On here for sure :). When we get the specs on Scorpio we can decide. Scorpio was never confirmed to be 6.4 tf they said they were aiming for that. Did you also know if you half the floating point operations on ps4 pro to 16 bit the gpu is actually able to render at 8.4 tf. What I'm getting at is that till we see actual hardware it's all vapour.

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PlayStation Plus Game Catalog for May: RDR2, Deceive Inc., Crime Boss: Rockay City and more

All titles release May 21.

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PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium | Game Catalog

- Red Dead Redemption 2 | PS4
- Deceive Inc. | PS5
- The Sims 4 City Living | PS4
- Crime Boss: Rockay City | PS5
- The Settlers: New Allies | PS4
- Stranded: Alien Dawn | PS4, PS5
- Cat Quest | PS4
- Cat Quest II | PS4
- The LEGO Movie 2 Videogame | PS4
- Watch Dogs* | PS4

PlayStation Premium | Classics

- 2Xtreme | PS4, PS5
- G-Police | PS4, PS5
- Worms Pinball | PS4, PS5

shinoff218313d ago

They gotta do better on the premium side for sure. Where are any of those jrpgs from the ps1 Era. Come on Sony.

jznrpg13d ago

Most of the Sony JRPGS have been released. Square has a ton that could be ported over but they would need Squares involvement.

VenomUK13d ago

Crime Boss! I know it hasn't reviewed well but I love the eighties action movie vibe of the trailer but didn't want to risk any money on it so this is a great way for me to play it.

Exvalos13d ago

I don't know why Sony is not getting some of the legendary ps1 games from square like parasite eve, xenogears, brave fencer musashi

outsider162413d ago

Looking at this list, i gotta ask what is even the point of premium?

raWfodog13d ago

I'm good with just my PS+ Essential

GamerRN13d ago

I have premium, and I'm also wondering why I have it

Xeofate13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I think there are a ton of good games on Premium, and don't sleep on the movie collection if you like 90's and 2000's movies, the selection is stacked with classics and gets updated pretty regularly.

Abnor_Mal13d ago

G-Police is a game I have fond memories of and will definitely download to replay. I remember controlling your helicopter was a bit difficult and would make my hand cramp having to press all the shoulder buttons to go up and down and I think yaw left and right.

The next game they should add to Classics is Colony Wars, and I wouldn’t mind replaying Nightmare Creatures. I’d also like to replay Black, PSI Ope: The Mindgate Conspiracy.

Redgrave13d ago

Nightmare Creatures, Deathtrap Dungeon, Urban Chaos

TheColbertinator13d ago

Colony Wars, G-Police, Black and PsiOps were all amazing games. Such creative games from a golden age.

DefenderOfDoom212d ago

I would love to play Black again on a higher difficult setting . Black was so fun to play!

MrBaskerville13d ago

G-Police is nice. But might be among the hardest games I've ever played.

Bathyj13d ago

G Police.
I almost want to upgrade for that.

But let's face it, there's no way the game has held up.

MrBaskerville13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

You can just buy it, you don't need premium.

And it's still good, but there's a couple of early missions that are extremely tough. But they don't really make games like this anymore.

DarXyde13d ago

2Xtreme was the first game I ever bought for PS Plus (I still have the PS1 version somewhere).

Game is awful, but it's stupid fun. Like Thrasher: Skate and Destroy.

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hiroyukisanada13d ago

Man.... Premium has been a massive letdown but this is the only month they don't have a single thing for me. Oh well. I've gotten my money's worth so far and still need to finish up Rebirth and Rise of the Ronin then I'll hop back in to Relink and Helldivers after that.

hiroyukisanada12d ago

I should clarify that I was referring to the Classics catalog, in particular. Only 1 PS1 game I've loved is the Legend of Dragoon and the Tekken/Soul Caliburs on PSP

Petebloodyonion13d ago

RDR2 is a win for Sony and Crime boss is a good fit to help promote a struggling game
but we're far from what was removed this month (including Horizon Zero Dawn)
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

crazyCoconuts13d ago

Yeah I was hoping burning shores would have been added now that it's a year old vs. the base game being removed.
I wouldn't be surprised if both MS and PS continue to either walk back the quality of games in the sub services or increase the price, since it's now clearer to them how cannibalistic these services are

isarai13d ago

The game deserves to struggle, it's garbage

Petebloodyonion13d ago

Indeed it's bad but it does offer incredible Hollywood star power so for free it might draw a crowd while giving a boost to this game.
Just remember Fallout 76 was the biggest turd and yet there are now tons of ppl playing it.

shinoff218312d ago

When I seen video on this game I thought Holy sht this is gonna be awesome. Then the footage continued and I seen what type of game it was going for. Was so disappointed. Would've loved a gta style game not from Rockstar,like we had back in the day some studios trying. I'm all about being different but a little gta clone idea been cool with.

Yui_Suzumiya12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

To be fair, I'd play Crime Boss before GTA any day. I mean I have no interest in either but just for the celebs I'd pick Crime Boss, lol

JL293013d ago

How is a 6 year old game a win for anything? Anyone who cares has already played it.

Petebloodyonion13d ago

Simply because ppl do play it!
As much as I don't like it GTA V always managed a boost of ppl when it was offered on Game Pass or PS+.
NOW RDR 2 was never offered on a subscription service.
Again the point isn't about will hardcore gamers play the game because we already played it. it's about having a huge star power game never offered on service that will make casual ppl subscribe to it.

MrBaskerville13d ago

You are aware that new people are born every day? All the 5 year olds probably didn't play it when it released.

But I guess you played every game ever released, which is quite impressive.

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seanpitt2313d ago

A 6 years old game is a win? Yes it's a masterpiece but I am sure most of hardcore gamers have already played it! I doubt it would be shifting ps plus extra subs if there was a native ps5 version or 60fps option then maybe

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6 Games That Genuinely Deserve A Current-Gen Upgrade

Games such as Mad Max, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Batman: Arkham Knight desperately deserve a modern-day revisit.

thorstein41d ago

Mad Max is underrated. Such a fun game.

Cacabunga40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

RDR2 still looks astounding on PS4 Pro. i cannot imagine how it could look with a next gen upgrade.

JonTheGod40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Probably not very different.

No idea why this article is highlighting recent beautiful graphically-advanced games and saying they need current gen makeovers. They already look better than most new releases; just compare Arkham Knight and Suicide Squad!

exputers40d ago

I see what you did there.

Yi-Long40d ago

It's obviously never gonna happen since Sony killed the game and studio, but Driveclub. Even in its current state, 10 years after release, it still puts many competitors to shame ...

Demetrius40d ago

I'm not into racing games but yeah I even looked at gameplay of that sometimes

redrum0612d ago

It's a shame they cancelled the game. Definitely the best racing game I've ever played on Playstation. Just got GT7, but it feels so slow and less arcade-y, which is to be expected of a sim racer of course, that I just enjoy it less.
Driveclub also graphically looked insanely good for its time. I wonder what a Driveclub 2 would look like for the PS5.

Demetrius40d ago

Mad max ikr! Far cry primal, it amuses me how ubisoft just left ac unity hanging, sadly most of the good staff left from rocksteady while being forced to make that abomination smh