Gran Turismo Sport is Gran Turismo 7 after all

Digital Spy reports:

You remember when Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital said Gran Turismo Sport wasn't Gran Turismo 7? Yeah, we do too. But apparently that's now not the case.

Speaking during a round table attended by Digital Spy at the Gran Turismo Sport unveiling, Polyphony confirmed that the game could have been called Gran Turismo 7 after all.

"The reason we called it Gran Turismo Sport was that we really wanted to incorporate the FIA events," explained Gran Turismo creator Kazunori Yamauchi.

"Thinking about it now, yeah, we could have called it Gran Turismo 7. But it's got so many features, we wanted it to be different."

So there you go. It is actually Gran Turismo 7 but with a new Gran Turismo Sport name.

[Gazondaily]

Well there you go. There's that excuse down the toilet. We shouldn't expect half measures then.

[freshslicepizza]

why is sony rushing out one of their biggest flagship titles then?

[Crimzon]

I'd like to know how they're going to launch the game in six months if it's only 50% complete.

[MrSec84]

@Crimzon: It's a subjective thing for that developer. Evidently PD considers having a working title they can show off to the public and let them try out to be at the 50% complete state.
The next 50% will be about actually combining all completed assets into the final package and refining the games code (otherwise known as optimization) for launch.

FYI games usually go gold about a month before release to give the publishers time to print discs ready for launch day, so that would likely be about 5 months from a week before the GT Sport event.
Maybe there will be a post launch patch, as with basically all games today, but Polyphony's big date will be some time in mid October, unless they get done sooner than that.

[ServerBOT]

It seems like it's been in development for a while, but the footage released looks like it's being rushed.

[formanbradley]

@Crimzon
Apparently the cut mission 51 from MGSV is only 30% complete, when it's just missing lip syncing and looks presentable in every other regard.

[Salooh]

This is unbelievable. WTH ?!!!

Please , read the article , Kaz said : "Thinking about it now, yeah, we could have called it Gran Turismo 7. But it's got so many features, we wanted it to be different."

You people don't know english ?. There is a difference between (could of) and ( it is ). This is actually good "news" , it is not just a prologue :D

The title and article is a troll attempt. People fell for it again , it is a little stupid but they are used to reading the title and comments only. However, if this is not removed this site will have less impact on me and good luck to you people fighting lies such as this. What a waste of time -.-

@Septic and rookie
No matter how much you want it to be true it is never happening. This is not GT7. Fans are very excited and this will definitely sell well.

[mogwaii]

Psvr, its not hard to fathom.

[Dee_91]

@Septic
What excuse and what half measures?
You do know at the event they were getting new builds sent in from japan every 8 hours?

Wow. This guy completely took that answer out of context. There are guys on the Gtplanet forums who were there too, and from their explanation, no this is not GT7. Kaz essentially said its the basis of gt7. This Gran Turismo is focused on esports. This is not a full gran turismo.

[dreadz74]

lol do we speak the same language? Does not get any clearer than the words straight from the team lol#DamageControl#TheFinest

[medman]

@septic @crimzon
I expect full measures.....from what I've seen thus far, some of the background environments are seriously lacking, and if this could indeed be considered GT7, the car and track count are not impressing compared to the recent competition from games like Project Cars, Forza, Driveclub, etc. etc. I'm not sure why, if the game is indeed only 50 percent complete as Polyphony claims, they would show it this way. Also, I don't see how if the game is only halfway through development it will make the fall release they announced. The whole thing seems a bit strange.

If you have a limited number of cars, and a limited number of tracks, the game should show a high degree of polish everywhere. Unfortunately as it stands with GTSport, that is not the case. I've moved on from Driveclub and need a new racing game for the fall, I'm hoping GT will be it.....despite this rather curious debut. Before there was no way you could have convinced me I would consider Assetto Corsa as a legitimate alternative to GTSport this go round, but that is where I stand at the moment. Time will tell....GTSport better knock VR out of the box and get it very right.

[Gazondaily]

@Rudero

Ofc sales wise it will destroy Forza. Not a genius prediction.

Here's a better bet; which game will be rated higher? Forza 6 or this?? Come let's make this fun and put some money on it.

And FYI, I've acknowledged that this is 50% done and can improve DRASTICALLY. But you lot cry and shed tears making accusations but don't clock that eh? Or the fact that I rinsed Gears for not being a radical improvement over last gen.

Come on then. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Rude-ro]

Nd there you go, defending games like gears of war for being an alpha beta demo and forza 5 for being a stripped down hd port of forza 4 yet, jumping on a little bit of news of this "could have been".
What you are failing to understand due to your biased lean and trolling, is, it could have been but, as they started seeing another potential with actual competitive online competitions, they put their resources into another direction is not making it gt7.
But troll away. I'll put this down now, sales gts vs forza... Gts will destroy it of which means the fans will speak with their wallets and not in comment sections trolling.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

How do you figure when the author of this article twisted the quote and tried to make more out of it than there was. This isn't gran turismo 7 he was just saying that this game is so big and has so many features that it could have been called gt 7. He's just trying to let people know that just because it isn't a mainline entry doesn't mean it's not worth playing and not once in the article did he definitively state this is gt 7 that was just the author twisting his quote to try to make it sound like that

[Jburr94]

You're being downvoted (or whatever y'all call it here) but this is true. People sure know how to twist words and make thousands of people believe them

[Dark_Knightmare2]

@jburr94 oh I know that's fanboys for you lol. I articulated my comment clearly and laid out why this isn't gt 7 and why the author of the article was twisting the quote yet the fanboys who rushed here to do what they do best fanboy out don't what to hear the truth so they'll down vote while proceeding to believe this is gt 7 lol its sad.

[EddieNX]

I don't see the Issue it looks really good to me compared to say Forza 6. The graphics are fine...

[Fin_The_Human]

So this practically a more sugar coated move than what Capcom did with SF5.

The game was GT7 but since GT7 is no where near completion they just took 50% of the game and slapped VR in it and called it GT Sport.

I am all for developers taken time with games but PD is beyond ridiculous and Sony gives then too much preference.

Sure PD made the greatest Sim racer of all time and are practically the father's of the genre but at some point Sony needs to put some pressure on these guys -Prologue and GT Sport is Sony's way of saying hey we need a game from you guys now but I think they still need to pressure PD more.

Evo made a great game with Drive Club and Sony disbanded the studio because of one hiccup but gives PD all the time in the world to make a GT game .

[KiwiViper85]

The only way to know whether or not this is GT7, is to wait for the next GT to release. It will either be called GT7 or GT8. If it is another named title, then GTSport is to be considered 7

[LP-Eleven]

I'm sure you couldn't wait to pounce on this story. ..

In any case, don't care what they call it. I want it.

[Rookie_Monster]

:'''( . So there won't be a GT7 with a car count, graphics fidelity, dynamic weather that the series is known for? This is devastating news to GT fans everywhere, myself included.

My dream of the ultimate racing simulator on my PS4 has been shattered by this revelation as many thought this was just a spin off.

[kraenk12]

Quit your fake concerns Rookie.

[Fin_The_Human]

PD is just too slow with development of GT games that by time they are ready to release or near completion the competition has out did them and moved on to the next step of sim evolution.

Its almost safe to say that PD is no where near the talent that they were since GT3.

They need new blood and I am glad that they hired one of the sound guys from the Forza team which is a start in the right direction.

[CaptainObvious878]

I love Sony and the GT series as much as the next gamer.

It really pains me to say it, but you're right.

3 dam years and only 50% completed and only looking halfway decent.

[AdmGenAladeen]

If you weren't fake as F you might actually be funny.

[hennessey86]

This doesn't surprise me, GT has been on a steady downward spiral since GT4. GT3 was its peak in my opinion, I put a serious amount of hours into that game. For me Assetto Corsa is the one to look out for, it will be worth trhe wait for you console players.

[Destiny1080]

gt5 was hands down a million times better then then any ps2 version, they absolutely nailed the handling

[RiseofScorpio]

Gran Turismo post Playstation 2 are nowhere near as good except the handling. 800 of the cars for starters are ported from the PS2.

[kraenk12]

They improved immensely on GT6. GT6's tire model even rivals top PC sims!

[2v1]

Gt6 best game Eva

[kraenk12]

GT6 was much better than GT5. Many people don't know because they never bought it.

[kraenk12]

@StardustLemon

Talking about all those concerned XBots I guess.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

I thought GT4 was great. Granted, I appreciate these games in a more casual sense. So I don't know if it would be better or worse than previous titles. Also picked up GT5 to play some splitscreen.

[Fin_The_Human]

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell people.

I have mad respect for PD and consider them to be the fathers of the race sim genre but I think that they just aren't the same anymore and after GT3 they got complacent and lost passion for the genre.

Sony needs to give that studio and over haul and bring in some new blood.

[DarXyde]

I really think they should reconsider. I feel like they're just doing this because it's very likely to sell VR.

Somehow I don't buy this. Sounds like they're trying to steer you into saying, "well, I guess this is the future of the series", inspiring you to buy a VR headset.

I really don't believe this is basically GT7. They've lied to us before to protect a project's sales.

But that aside, once it's optimized, I wonder how it plays. I don't expect visuals to change much, but the performance issues should be resolved.

Let's not look at it like it's a bad game out of the gate. May play very well, though acknowledging the existence of "premium cars" is a grim prospect.

[Jburr94]

How awful and disappointing. This is not good news in the slightest.

[Ipunchbabiesforfun]

I've seen photos and video that make this game look god awful. Then I've seen some videos that look really good. Jekyll and Hyde game.

Weird as it is to say it might be awhile until we see a game as consistent graphically as UC4. The ending of that game is spectacular in every way. They took U2's best, cranked it up a few notches and added all the eye candy you could imagine.

[jokerisalive]

The article said all the cars from GT6 will be available with interior views also so does that mean 137 'Super Premium Cars' PLUS the 1197 cars from GT6? Did you guys read that? Anyone have any idea??? My bad the car quote was from another article that lists the cars, tracks and features of the game. Did anyone else read that article I have pointed out? If thats the case the game will still have over 1000 cars but only 137 of them will be super premium.

[Gran Touring]

The game will have 137 cars, and supposedly those cars are modeled in a slightly higher fidelity to the premiums in gt6. This "super premium" term theyre throwing out is unfortunately very confusing to understand, albeit a bit worrying, as Kaz has said in the past he doesnt want to just throw away the old 700+ standard cars from gt5/gtpsp

[2v1]

This is like a copy/ paste thing
Every GT has done it ,they improve each generation that's why old car models from earlier games only look slightly better.
Bet on the old car to be there just not looking like the new 137 car models they have for when the game releases.
This more like adding 137 new cars to their existing library of cars..

[Unarmed_Civilian]

Surprise ,surprise Septic ,Infected and Rookie first to comment on Gran turismo sport article.
lol

Cmon keep the downvotes incoming xD

[Dario_DC]

Same old frauds, still waiting on those gamer tags because we all know these people have all systems and all games for them... Fake @ss gamers and their concern trolling is getting really annoying.

[KiwiViper85]

Why would you need proof of gamer tags? They obviously prefer Xbox...

Shouldn't you be asking for PSN id?

[Dario_DC]

@kiwi by gamer tags I mean all of them including psn id and steam account.
They're always saying how they have all the systems and beat all these games. I bet these frauds don't even beat games on their favourite platform, that's why they don't show anything and when they do it's all private lol.
They spend more time online defending their favourite plastic than gaming.

[Majin-vegeta]

Well they have no games until most likely September so they need to entertain themselves somehow.

[Gazondaily]

Whose they? Some of us aren't poor or a member of a cult that force themselves to game on one platform.

[Movefasta1993]

LOL i see you hating on everything Microsoft,you are no saint.

[2v1]

Septic more like The Silent Lurker
Seriously though the cult people are driving you insane lol. There is only 3 option for you either you are MR X the clown with he web site, if not then you are just a real ms fanboy or actually one of they employee because da way you defend a company is showing and you defend MS .

[kraenk12]

Yeah, fake concerns all over the place. Sad trolls

[Imalwaysright]

Only 137 cars, half the courses that GT6 had, no plans for dynamic wheather. Why should GT fans be happy about these news?

[kraenk12]

@Imalwaysright

GT6 had loads of old recycled cars and courses. It's clear they can't remodel all of them in high fidelity in such a short amount of time.

People simply act naive.

[Imalwaysright]

GT6 had 400 premium cars, had 60 plus courses and dynamic wheather. Instead of getting more, we're getting far less.

No time? Then give PD more time. Delay the game.

Acting naive? No, that's how you would like us to act. Any GT fan would be disappointed by these news.

[kraenk12]

@imalwaysright

Why do you act so surprised?! It was always said the game is gonna be a spin off and more like a Prologue...this article doesn't change that at all.

[Imalwaysright]

I hope not. It would be extremely disappointing if this was the direction PD is taking the main line GT games.

[captain_slow82]

i just leave this here for everyone to read
http://99u.com/articles/251...

me im really looking forward to gt sport woooo

[LP-Eleven]

I know. Like clockwork.

[Jamaicangmr]

Maybe hes also baiting those who say they will wait until GT7. Most consider this a prologue which is the stigma they want removed. those who think this is gonna be what the visuals are going to look like at launch clearly have never followed a GT progression before.

However have fun and i'll see you all on the track mid November.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I view it more as a VR GT designed for eSports

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't think this means they're not releasing a Gran Turismo 7, I think this merely means they're stating this to not make sport sound lesser to the other GT entries.

The prologue to the GT series is never really branded as a numbered entry. In Japan and Europe most fans are used to the prologues like Concept in 2002 only with the PlayStation 3 did we see the prologue entry released worldwide.

GT Sport is nothing more than an entry GT it is not a main number GT though they're stating this about not calling at 7 I think it's merely to not make it look like it's a lesser to.

It's not a main entry in regards to being numbered thus won't be called gt7 I think it's pretty clear their next entry is Gran Turismo 7.

[dreadz74]

No I think ur mistaken you see what you want to. This is not good GT was one of my all time fav They have gone completely down hill. FH 2 is my Fav car racer of all time beats GT hands down, soon we will get Forza Horizon 3 .

[_-EDMIX-_]

That's nice.

[FyBy]

This was So obvious! No surprise at all !

[NotEvenMyFinalForm]

but he said that "it could of been" not that "it is". ;/

[kraenk12]

If anything he said "could HAVE" damnit.

[TwoForce]

Before you guys disagree with me : http://m.imgur.com/Vmegw3E?... and
https://youtu.be/CxuqIYp-oz...
See any difference from the trailer and this ?

[Imalwaysright]

Yeah, it's like a night and day difference but the number of cars and no plans for dynamic wheather are disappointing. I wouldn't mind if it was spin off but I do mind for a fully fledged GT.

[Imalwaysright]

Worst gaming news of the year! I expected much more from PD.

[Ristul]

I'm kind of pissed off that Sony got rid of Evolution Studios (who made a great job with Driveclub) and at the same time they give Polyphony all the time in the world, they could have used the Driveclub team to speed up the development time for GT Sport and ad more cars etc, instead they closed a studio with lots of talent. Sony, you better make it worth our while and not release a half assed Gran Turismo Sport.

[_-EDMIX-_]

You really need to understand how business works

That same team also produced a game that only moved around 2 to 3 million units that likely cost them lots of money in which they could not afford to sell such a low amount based on the money they put in most Gran Turismo games average around 10 plus million units each so it's very easy for Sony to always depend on a team that has a proven track record of moving extremely large units every entry.

[Ristul]

Come on, not every game needs to sell 10 million, Driveclub did fine considering it was a new franchise and not a sequal to a game within a series. Take the first Forza for example, it sold just above 1 million, and then the next one sold four times that amount.

[_-EDMIX-_]

They still need to seek a return I'm sorry but this is just objective business.

I don't know what is fine for Drive Club because I don't know how much money Sony spent on the development of that game you also have to consider it was delayed for a considerable amount of time which still cost them money.

Microsoft be able to seek a profit with Forza but we don't know their situation in regards to finances for all we know Microsoft could be accepting to break even with almost every entry who knows.

At the end of the day if they weren't able to make a return and they see trouble with the team they're sort of correct to take this approach and disband and move forward and cut their losses.

I don't really see much reason for them to continue considering I don't know the exact cost of Driveclub development to say if they should have continued with that series or team.

Gran Turismo is a proven series and one of the best selling racing games of all time they're going to support the team that has a proven track record versus a team that is up and down.

[Ristul]

Neither of us know the development cost of either series, so this is just pointless speculation. I leave it at that.

[_-EDMIX-_]

We don't, but clearly Sony felt the sales were not worth it for the team to still exist within them. Driveclub must have cost them a lot of money if Sony let the team go after its sales bud. All we really need to know.

No feelings or emotions involved. Just numbers.

1 sold enough to give a respectable return.
1 didn't and was costly.

Yes, Forza doesn't sell as much as DC did, but Forzas are also on time and likely cost MS less hassle as MS would have never kept that team if they where not making a good return.

Keep it business and move on. 1 was profitable, 1 likely wasn't, thats it.

[Movefasta1993]

All this car talk and all i wanted was a next gen motorstorm game.Might have to pick up pacific rift again,game was a blast.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Bwahahahaha 😂😂😂
😂😂!!!!!!

[yewles1]

"Thinking about it now, yeah, we could have called it Gran Turismo 7. But it's got so many features, we wanted it to be different."

It's like they just post quotes to purposely misconstrue meaning. Instead of working on GT7, they changed focus.

[mrkbizzle]

Righty-o , high five dude, u one of the smart ones. theyve been using tactics like that since their first console. They also use it to confuse ppl about the competition so people think the games are no good and they have the best games.

[Majin-vegeta]

Yup like most of Sony studios.Theyre working on both titles.

[EazyC]

This franchise has gone to the dogs, why didn't Polyphony amalgamate with Evolution Studios? Those boys turned Driveclub into a fantastic game

[Fin_The_Human]

Is amalgamate the same as consolidate?

[majedx9]

call it Gran Turismo 7:Sport

[Monduu]

Is it now...

[BABY-JEDI]

I'm just wondering what Polyphony's priorities are here.
Is it quality over quantity? (My preference )
Is it VR compatibility or standard? One has a detrimental affect over the other. Can both co-exist?
Is Polyphony fast-tracking this for VR? (Never known them to rush anything)
Is this still an early but working build to start tying deadlines & functionality together?
Or is this to lower expectations before the final push?
I sure as hell don't know 🤔
Oh, am I impressed with this presentation/event? No. I do expect PD to do better @ this stage. But I hope they will prove all doubters wrong like they have in the past 😉

[gamingisnotacrime]

Seems like someone at sony got fed up with polyphony while turn 10 keeps releasing GREAT racing games in a yearly basis

[Fin_The_Human]

Lol...I can imagine a big Sony head slamming the door open at PD studios and shouting "Release the cracking now or pay with your lives"

[ILostMyMind]

That's why companies show fake images of their games while developing. To avoid haters complaints before the game is released. There is still much to development is complete.

But being near PS NEO announcement, I wonder why this game is not showing wonderful graphics in 900p / 30fps in the hope that NEO raise the settings to 1080p / 60fps?

I hope that settings are there to be chosen. Beautiful graphics at 30fps are good for me. Choice is the best feature that these companies can offer.

[AlphaBlackWolf96]

It has to be 60fps for the VR or motion sickness sets in.

[quent]

Just got PT syndrome after hearing about this, a Gt game takes about a whole console gen for it to release so hopefully a GT7 could be possible by the end of the ps4 lifecycle, like GT6.

[windblowsagain]

Never had a PS2,(SHOCKER!) But GT on PS1 blew me away. Best was GT5 for me, Regardless of gt6, which had higher rez but post aa and just looked soft. GT5 looked better imo.

[Majister-Ludi]

So does that mean the next iteration is gonna be 8 or will it be 7 or another name. I would enjoy some clarity.

[MrSec84]

GT Sport isn't GT7, it's got newer features that set it apart from the numbered Gran Turismo games.
The next game will likely be called Gran Turismo 7.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Should have axed Polyphony and not Evolution.

[Doabarrelroll]

Right cause everyone should listen to you

[Sm00thNinja]

And Forza will retain the king of racers crown it's held for so long now smh

[Doabarrelroll]

King of milked racers.

[level 360]

Physics engine on GT6 was already polished, Sony just needs to properly bring us the right audio frequencies with the engine sound, body rattles, brake screeches and other various effects which was seriously lacking in that game.

Thought the trailer looks good but really not much into pasting, photoshop features. Do like the paint/badge modding feature.

The game also badly needs new race tracks to show off. Honestly am bored with a couple of racetracks and reverse ones. Race/city tracks from other countries/continents would be much appreciated.

[Good-Smurf]

If you've been played GT4 and GT5 Prologue you will know that PD likes to use their placeholder assets before their final product is released.
Things like sound,graphics,cars etc. their game in bite sized incomplete form tend to used a lot of placeholders so don't worry this is PD the people who loves to give you freebies,remember GT5 Prologue Spec II and III? something similar can happen with GTS.

[MagicBeanz]

This is being spun so hard to make a story. Just some more pathetic laughable "journalism", it doesn't mean their isn't another full fledged GT in the works, all they are saying is they could have named it the next number in the series, this isn't GT7. Don't say "so there you go" Sam as if you found out some amazing fact, you didn't.

[Good-Smurf]

Here's the latest video featuring Mazda Roadster S (ND) and Brands Hatch track,notice the absence of GT5 Prologue placeholder tire squeal.
https://www.gtplanet.net/ex...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[cyber_daemonx]

So Forza is better than GT apparently. In you dreams loooooool.

[Antifan]

Lazy a$$ devs at poly. Not surprising at all. Evolution was a far superior studio.

[lodossrage]

Gaming journalists are ridiculous these days. Where does Kazunori say it IS GT7?

I'll even take the quote this article directly references:

""Thinking about it now, yeah, we could have called it Gran Turismo 7. But it's got so many features, we wanted it to be different.""

He doesn't say it IS GT7. What he DOES say is that BECAUSE of the features they put it, thinking back on it, he COULD have called it 7. Big difference on it actually BEING 7.

Fact is, this game was made for the Esports crowd. Which is a big part as to why that have FIA events and the word "sport" in the name.

Gaming "journalist" are getting pathetic now are starting to reach for anything to get hits.